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Posted 21 September 2013 - 07:59 PM

 

The fans that you've encountered do not represent the majority of their fandoms, just as the few extremist fans of NaruSaku that they've dealt with do not represent our majority either. They may perceive the romantic aspects of the manga differently than we do, but that doesn't make them ignorant, or "blind", or whatever other insult you want to throw in there. All it boils down to is personal preference, and no one deserves to be whacked with a stick because they like something different than someone else.

This is true, but it's like what someone else said in a previous page (I'm too lazy to go and look it up right now)

 

When the manga, book or whatever you're reading is leaning in the direction of something and it's practically screaming in your face about how obvious something is, it's disrespectful to the writer or artist when fans like the rabid NH or SS fans change things around and come up with excuses like they did with 631.

 

"Oh, he was just joking. He didn't mean that you silly NS fans."

 

Where on his facial expression does it indicate that he's joking? Why would he lie to his dad who he never sees, and to himself for that fact?

 

"I HATE people who lie to themselves!"

 

Wouldn't Naruto be lying to himself if he was joking? 

 

I just don't get where or why they come up with things like that. I'm pretty sure if I had never seen my dad before and he asked me a question...God knows I'm not going to lie to him! Especially when I know he's not going to be around much longer.

 

It's just disrespectful to the author when people come up with excuses or bend the story around for their own pleasure.



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Posted 21 September 2013 - 08:01 PM

Personally, the plot in a story is all I really care about. Sometimes the action is good, but I like plot heavy and suspenseful stories the most. Kind of like...Legend by Marie Lu. I couldn't put those books down at all.

 

Oh my gosh, I loved that series too and Divergent, can't decide which I like more.



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Posted 21 September 2013 - 08:07 PM

I always look for romance :sweat: . I remember when i watched episode 3 , i shipped them so hard since then , i just knew they will eventually come to understand each other , its just so perfect :cry: . But , yeah, the Gaara fight ,Hospital scene,POAL really made me going ... Then when i saw the beginning of part 2 and Sakura's maturity , huh ,well , she got that soft and warm smile just for him .. :nslove:

I like looking for romance in any media. It's just to be honest, I used to think anime was only about explosion and fighting. In early days, they only brought Sailor Moon (monster of the day) and DBZ (fighting show), so I didn't know if Japanese anime has romance. Pokemon, sure I fell for it, but it never went anywhere, so I thought romance isn't a big deal at Japan at all. I was right for Pokemon, but not in general. Naruto was probably the 4-5th anime I saw in here, so bam, I realized that anime do care about anything besides action. Gundam Wing didn't help btw. Lol. Anyway, thanks to Naruto, I gone to watch anime and read manga and now, I'm full throttle romance seeker.

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Posted 21 September 2013 - 08:07 PM

 

Oh my gosh, I loved that series too and Divergent, can't decide which I like more.

I can't wait for Champion to come out! I've also heard Hollywood is making a movie out of the first one.



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Posted 21 September 2013 - 08:11 PM

I can't wait for Champion to come out! I've also heard Hollywood is making a movie out of the first one.

 

That's what I hear. Though this is why off topic so we'd better stop before it goes too far :ninja:



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Posted 21 September 2013 - 08:31 PM

 
What is the artist name who did the crossover with naruto and conan?  :happy:


Horidesk :) apparently he worked on Road to Ninja too

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Posted 21 September 2013 - 08:32 PM

I like looking for romance in any media. It's just to be honest, I used to think anime was only about explosion and fighting. In early days, they only brought Sailor Moon (monster of the day) and DBZ (fighting show), so I didn't know if Japanese anime has romance. Pokemon, sure I fell for it, but it never anywhere, so I thought romance isn't a big deal at Japan at all. I was right for Pokemon, but in general. Naruto was probably the 4-5th anime I saw in here, so bam, I realized that anime do care about anything besides action. Gundam Wing didn't help btw. Lol. Anyway, thanks to Naruto, I gone to watch anime and read manga and now, I'm full throttle romance seeker.

Hm.. to be honest , what got me in shipping so to say was Shaman king , yes, there is little to no romance there , but the fact that the girl was a Tsundere type , hiding away her feelings made it very interesting to watch , because when Yo was in danger , she was unable to keep them in so easily . But what got me into romance was Naruto hands down . Because its strong ,selfless etc..  I've watched a lot of anime , but this is my kind of pairing :happy: . I just can't look at any different the way i see NaruSaku. :P


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Posted 21 September 2013 - 08:46 PM

Hm.. to be honest , what got me in shipping so to say was Shaman king , yes, there is little to no romance there , but the fact that the girl was a Tsundere type , hiding away her feelings made it very interesting to watch , because when Yo was in danger , she was unable to keep them in so easily . But what got me into romance was Naruto hands down . Because its strong ,selfless etc..  I've watched a lot of anime , but this is my kind of pairing :happy: . I just can't look at any different the way i see NaruSaku. :P


Well yeah, it's just Naruto was the first to tell me that there's variety in anime/manga. So I look around and yeah, I was happy that I was wrong. That said I must admit, as bad as it may sound, it's sometime bothersome to see a two different gender as heroes yet not get together. That and/or not get love from obvious potential. I know you can work it without romance, but it just feels incomplete but that's just me.

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Posted 21 September 2013 - 08:53 PM

Well yeah, it's just Naruto was the first to tell me that there's variety in anime/manga. So I look around and yeah, I was happy that I was wrong. That said I must admit, as bad as it may sound, it's sometime bothersome to see a two different gender as heroes yet not get together. That and/or not get love from obvious potential. I know you can work it without romance, but it just feels incomplete but that's just me.

I know, its even more bothersome when your ship either dies (they die , literally :argh: ) or the story just ends with an open ending . Kishi has laid out a lot of material to make an open ending . Lets hope we see Naruto and Sakura kissing :sleepy: :hehehe: .


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Posted 21 September 2013 - 09:00 PM

I know, its even more bothersome when your ship either dies (they die , literally :argh: ) or the story just ends with an open ending . Kishi has laid out a lot of material to make an open ending . Lets hope we see Naruto and Sakura kissing :sleepy: :hehehe: .

Hopefully something happens because otherwise there won't be a friggen end to this pairing war!



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Posted 21 September 2013 - 09:06 PM

I know, its even more bothersome when your ship either dies (they die , literally :argh: ) or the story just ends with an open ending . Kishi has laid out a lot of material to make an open ending . Lets hope we see Naruto and Sakura kissing :sleepy: :hehehe: .

 

I don't really mind open endings where pairings are concerned. It depends on the story and how it's executed. As you know from our discussion earlier, Psychox, I ship the pairing Soul/Maka from Soul Eater. Well, it didn't become canon, but there was finally confirmation in the final chapter that Maka felt something more than friendship (Soul already made how he felt pretty obvious a long time ago), and for that particular pairing I was not upset that it wasn't 'official', the implication was enough.

But I don't think that would work here, not because the pairing war would never end, but because it would just be a copout. NaruSaku is probably the most blatantly obvious pairing I've come across, there's too much foreshadowing and yes, too many parallels for it not to be made 'official'.



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Posted 21 September 2013 - 09:07 PM

I know, its even more bothersome when your ship either dies (they die , literally :argh: ) or the story just ends with an open ending . Kishi has laid out a lot of material to make an open ending . Lets hope we see Naruto and Sakura kissing :sleepy: :hehehe: .

Well I haven't lost a war yet but I sure don't want that feeling. I do get the feeling of never been answered in anime, manga, and anything else. It's also annoying as well. I mean it's right there. Why not? Who are you going to displease? Also, sometimes when there's no romance intended, you can't help but say there should be. It depends on the focus but a hero/heroine side by side it's hard to ignore.

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Posted 21 September 2013 - 09:09 PM

 
I don't really mind open endings where pairings are concerned. It depends on the story and how it's executed. As you know from our discussion earlier, Psychox, I ship the pairing Soul/Maka from Soul Eater. Well, it didn't become canon, but there was finally confirmation in the final chapter that Maka felt something more than friendship (Soul already made how he felt pretty obvious a long time ago), and for that particular pairing I was not upset that it wasn't 'official', the implication was enough.
But I don't think that would work here, not because the pairing war would never end, but because it would just be a copout. NaruSaku is probably the most blatantly obvious pairing I've come across, there's too much foreshadowing and yes, too many parallels for it not to be made 'official'.

I'll be honest with you, I was actually intended to jab at that, but you're right. I think KHR is the latest one that upset me. Like who are you afraid of. What is it that it's hard to confirm? Why even bother? God, screw that manga.

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Posted 21 September 2013 - 09:18 PM

I'll be honest with you, I was actually intended to jab at that, but you're right. I think KHR is the latest one that upset me. Like who are you afraid of. What is it that it's hard to confirm? Why even bother? God, screw that manga.

 

Oh don't you dare :rawr: ! Just kidding. :P

 

I'm afraid I don't know what KHR is.



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Posted 21 September 2013 - 09:21 PM

I think theres a huge possibility the Kishi will leave an open ending. He wont canonize any pairing but might kill one off....


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Posted 21 September 2013 - 09:26 PM

 
Oh don't you dare :rawr: ! Just kidding. :P
 
I'm afraid I don't know what KHR is.

Hitman Reborn.

I think theres a huge possibility the Kishi will leave an open ending. He wont canonize any pairing but might kill one off....

I wouldn't say huge, but it is there. That said he's far too deep with the manga, that if he backs out, a lot of people won't go back to his work. Sometimes, doing this could really turn many people off that they won't go for another manga from the same creator. At least I know I'm not. Even so, I still doubt it.

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Posted 21 September 2013 - 09:30 PM

Hitman Reborn.

I wouldn't say huge, but it is there. That said he's far too deep with the manga, that if he backs out, a lot of people won't go back to his work. Sometimes, doing this could really turn many people off that they won't go for another manga from the same creator. At least I know I'm not. Even so, I still doubt it.

 

Oh, that. I have heard of it but never read it.

 

And, yes, if Kishi wants to give any closure to the story, something will have to become canon. There's just too much that would be left unresolved.



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Posted 21 September 2013 - 09:33 PM

 

I don't really mind open endings where pairings are concerned. It depends on the story and how it's executed. As you know from our discussion earlier, Psychox, I ship the pairing Soul/Maka from Soul Eater. Well, it didn't become canon, but there was finally confirmation in the final chapter that Maka felt something more than friendship (Soul already made how he felt pretty obvious a long time ago), and for that particular pairing I was not upset that it wasn't 'official', the implication was enough.

But I don't think that would work here, not because the pairing war would never end, but because it would just be a copout. NaruSaku is probably the most blatantly obvious pairing I've come across, there's too much foreshadowing and yes, too many parallels for it not to be made 'official'.

 

Its a bit disappointing if its not official :argh: ,but you guys are right about the pairing war :sweat: . Besides, they've practically almost kissed :P. :hehehe:
 

 

Well I haven't lost a war yet but I sure don't want that feeling. I do get the feeling of never been answered in anime, manga, and anything else. It's also annoying as well. I mean it's right there. Why not? Who are you going to displease? Also, sometimes when there's no romance intended, you can't help but say there should be. It depends on the focus but a hero/heroine side by side it's hard to ignore.

 

In anime and manga i haven't lost as of yet , but i lost in AC.. :sweatdrop:  Heck, PoP sands of time had development between Farah & the prince , but in the end he got slapped because she didn't remember anything of their time spent together. So it was kind of disappointing , they've got together in part 3 but it had an open ending .. I'm not gonna talk about Pop 4............ It came out in 2008 and  i still wait for a fallow up -_-...

So i kind of lost 1 and maybe the second wave is gonna hit ..


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Posted 21 September 2013 - 09:37 PM

Wait a minute...didn't Kishi say he wanted Naruto to have a son or something? Naruto has to get with someone then. It's kind of hard to have a child without a woman involved somewhere...

 

Unless you adopt, then it's perfectly understandable.



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Posted 21 September 2013 - 09:38 PM

 
Its a bit disappointing if its not official :argh: ,but you guys are right about the pairing war :sweat: . Besides, they've practically almost kissed :P. :hehehe:
 
 
 
In anime and manga i haven't lost as of yet , but i lost in AC.. :sweatdrop:  Heck, PoP sands of time had development between Farah & the prince , but in the end he got slapped because she didn't remember anything of their time spent together. So it was kind of disappointing , they've got together in part 3 but it had an open ending .. I'm not gonna talk about Pop 4............ It came out in 2008 and  i still wait for a fallow up -_-...
So i kind of lost 1 and maybe the second wave is gonna hit ..

Game wise, well it usually death or no love. I admit nintendo games, mainly Zelda, are evil for never confirming. Other than that, too many father-daughter games. I want love dammit. Hard to not feel awkward, though depends on age but when it's like "oh an adult? Please don't be my daughter" then please go with it. I will tell you one thing. It's hard to ache romance that is something you don't like or even ache it. Live shows are guilty of this.




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