H&E's NaruSaku Debate Thread!
#8521
Posted 16 January 2013 - 01:54 AM
I also really like how Sakura still cares for Sasuke, no matter what he does. It's like Sasuke pushes that love all the way to its limits, tests it in so many ways (like, you know, almost killing her) and yet she still loves him. Same with Naruto: no matter what Sasuke does, Naruto still cares for him. It is hard to say whether this is a good thing or bad thing. It can be seen either way. On the other hand Naruto and Sakura give Sasuke a second chance and still believe in him and by doing so give him a place to go back to, a home. On the other hand this kind of love can be really unhealthy and cause genuine harm. I like how SS and NaruSasu sort of dance around the line between good things and bad things.
#8522
Posted 16 January 2013 - 02:13 AM
I personally think that Naruto will end up with Sakura or at least reject Hinata in time... Sakura is strong enough to love Sasuke for this amount of time, therefore, she is strong enough to let him go. However... my prediction is that Sasuke will not be killed off in the end (I MEAN THE END OF THE UCHIHAS Q___Q.. KISHI-SENSEI....I hope you don't do that. </3) So... he would need a potential wife... but ... Like the village is most likely to shun him and he'd just be another "naruto" when he was a child. Shuned and seen as a monster. But the only people who would accept him would be Sakura and Naruto (Or/and hinata.. LOL crack shipping time!) So, maybe Sakura would be best suited to be Sasuke's wife and repopulate the Uchiha clan. (I mean... if he were to do it with Hinata, they'd make mutant babies IMO) But then again, even Sakura's love couldn't change the path he chose so who knows? I think he just is too afraid to love and care because he'll just get hurt and stuff so he isn't into romance.
But... what was my point again. Ah. Okay well Sakura and Naruto would break the "curse" that the teams seem to have >_> .. Like those ugly love triangles that never seem to work out! Ugh Darn you Kishi </3! And, Kishi did say she'd be the heroine...the heroine is supposed to be at the hero's side as they save the world together... /shot. (Maybe thats why Kishi-sensei said Hinata would be a better heroine?)
Edited by ShiningFlan, 16 January 2013 - 02:14 AM.
#8523
Posted 16 January 2013 - 02:22 AM
HECK YEAH! Hinata has been making a move on Naruto to make Sasuke jealous. Sasuke will submit soon and they will have SasuHina babies.
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#8524
Posted 16 January 2013 - 02:27 AM
Yeah, SS is not a ship for everyone, I can understand that, but I like it very much myself.
Sasuke redeeming himself and surviving and living amps up SS's chances to be canon. I do think that if Sasuke will live, Kishi will give him a new home in Konoha and a chance to have a family again and then he obviously needs a willing woman to have that family. Sakura is a convenient option for Kishi as she can provide Sasuke both a home and a family. I think the people in the Naruto world have to forgive Sasuke and not treat him like a monster if Naruto is going to break the cycle of revenge. So I do think Sasuke can go back to Konoha and live there. I don't know if SS and Sasuke living is something Kishi is going to do but it is a possibility.
#8525
Posted 16 January 2013 - 02:41 AM
HOMG. Do you ship them too?! I totally ship this pairing because of the ying and yang theory. It's too adorables. AND THE FACT THAT KISHI xD answered the question about a possible "uchiha-hyuga" baby just made me homg. / fangirls. It can imply that he has actually thought about a uchiha-hyuga mix <3.(ohoho Sasuke and Hinata)
D: do you think her gentleness will get to him?? She's one of the few girls who never made any advances towards him and had a shallow crush on him. AND AND... homg the two clan symbols totally complements each other <3 and homg homg. /stops right there xD.
What are your thoughts ??
Well I... really can't see Sasuke dying... Mainly because the Naruto and Sakura wouldn't be able to forgive themselves for not saving him... But that's just my opinion. A new life for Sasuke would be nice but he hates Konoha. I think he just wants to destroy everything he was attached to so he wouldn't have to feel the pain of knowing that it was all "an illusion" or "too good to be true' *A*... idk. Maybe if he erases it, it'd be like erasing that past self he wants to forget.
I dunno how Sakura would be able to reach into his heart and change him, but I hope she does... or Naruto does 8D but that would totally ruin the antagonist and the epic battles. *A* Sakura-channn please be more of a heroine and reach either one of their hearts (homg she needs more screen time... LIKE SERIOUSLY) What do you think kishi is thinking? W_W Hinata seems like the heroine for now... FFF Your thoughts please?
#8526
Posted 16 January 2013 - 02:41 AM
SS certainly has all that: it is pretty dark and messed-up ship with plenty of angst. I also tend to like characters that are very flawed, and Sasuke is totally like that and even Sakura has many flaws, though not as bad ones as Sasuke. I find the two of them very interesting as characters and the idea of them together is also compelling. What I also like about SS is that, even though it has so much darkness in it, it also has some sweet and genuinely good moments, for example even though in part I Sasuke sometimes treated Sakura coldly, he still considered her an important friend and was willing to die for her. Even in part two, Sasuke still occasionally thinks about Sakura and team 7, like he genuinely misses them. That combination of dark and light, cruel and sweet, is really fascinating for me. I also like the themes of redemption and making amends. If Sasuke can change and become a good person, then SS has a real chance to develop into a really good and happy bond. So SS basically has two flawed inviduals in a dark relationship, which still has a genuine chance to become a good and happy union. So a dark journey, but with (potential) happy ending. I really like all of these elements, especially together in the same storyline.
I think that Kishi hasn't really explored SS that much. It is a ship with very much potential, but Kishi hasn't really gone into that so much, not the way he has explored the NaruSasu bond. Just imagine how amazing* it would have been if Sakura had been playing the role Naruto has been playing
So there. It is kind of hard to list exactly every reason why I like SS, but hope this post gives at least some idea. I also have no idea if other SS shippers ship this for the same reasons. I might be some kind of exception, some lone SS weirdo.
(*Well, for me anyway. Maybe not for you since you ship some other couple.
Edit. I also ship NaruSasu, mostly for the same reasons I ship SS: the darkness of it all, yet many sweet moments. In NaruSasu I also really like how deep their bond is.
Ah, that IS an interesting reason. thank you for sharing
Edited by Phantom_999, 16 January 2013 - 02:42 AM.
#8527
Posted 16 January 2013 - 02:50 AM
D: do you think her gentleness will get to him?? She's one of the few girls who never made any advances towards him and had a shallow crush on him. AND AND... homg the two clan symbols totally complements each other <3 and homg homg. /stops right there xD.
What are your thoughts ??
I think that Naruto will set the two of them up. Plus then all the Hinata fans won't be too mad because Hinata still got a main character.
Also, yes, I love SasuHina. I want Hinata and Sasuke to end up with someone other than Naruto and Sakura, so why not each other? Nothing keeping them from making sharingan/byakugan babies.
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#8528
Posted 16 January 2013 - 02:51 AM
I dunno how Sakura would be able to reach into his heart and change him, but I hope she does... or Naruto does 8D but that would totally ruin the antagonist and the epic battles. *A* Sakura-channn please be more of a heroine and reach either one of their hearts (homg she needs more screen time... LIKE SERIOUSLY) What do you think kishi is thinking? W_W Hinata seems like the heroine for now... FFF Your thoughts please?
I'm 50-50, when it comes to Sasuke dying or living. Okay maybe 55% sure that he lives, 45 % that he dies. If Sasuke redeems himself, he pretty much has to forgive Konoha, or at least the people who had no idea that his family was killed. I'm sure that Naruto would find a way to deal with those people who actually gave the command for the Uchiha clan to die. Itachi already started Sasuke's path to redemption (at least it seems like that now) and now Sasuke is re-thinking everything he knows and trying to find answers (from where, beats me). This could be a time where he is more open to Naruto's love methods and might actually change for the better. On the other hand, he needs to have that final big fight with Naruto that pretty much everyone reading this comic expects to happen. He can't redeem himself completely before that, right? It'd be nice to know where that damn guy is even going with team loudmouth and birdguy and Oro.
Phantom_999, no problem.
#8529
Posted 16 January 2013 - 02:59 AM
Also, yes, I love SasuHina. I want Hinata and Sasuke to end up with someone other than Naruto and Sakura, so why not each other? Nothing keeping them from making sharingan/byakugan babies.
SasuHina is definitely the weirdest crack pairing I've ever liked. I don't even know why I like them together. They just seem so cute in such a weird way.
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#8530
Posted 16 January 2013 - 03:08 AM
Also, yes, I love SasuHina. I want Hinata and Sasuke to end up with someone other than Naruto and Sakura, so why not each other? Nothing keeping them from making sharingan/byakugan babies.
... The fact that they haven't spoken to each other xD Ahh I STILL LIKE THIS PAIRING. Somewhat complete opposites, yet they are understand each others complexes. <3 I draw them everyday in my notebooks and stuff.
*A* ... Is there another thread to just do fangirl about this couple?? I feel like I need to do so.
Yeah ~_~.. MAYBE.... LIKE SASUKE FIGHTS NARUTO and then Naruto says something to change his mind, but I wouldn't know what could change it's mind >_< it's too baffling. And...if he kills Sasuke Q__Q he's probably gunna end up killing himself.
Yes you do...So people like me can read them. Like seriously <3 I feel like this pairing has so much potential. Both are very good looking characters *>_>IMO don't mean to bash, but Sakura doesn't have that ... "feminine touch" Hinata has so ... Hinata has an edge in looks (BUT ITS ALL OPINION ... >~< Please dont' kill me)* I mean...I can totally imagine Sasuke changing because of Hinata.
#8531
Posted 16 January 2013 - 03:22 AM
I can't see him being paired with anyone now. Once upon a time maybe Karin, but now I highly doubt that pairing too.

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#8532
Posted 16 January 2013 - 03:29 AM
I can't see him being paired with anyone now. Once upon a time maybe Karin, but now I highly doubt that pairing too.
I kinda dislike sasuke with anyone as well, not so much because of a pairing but because I just think sasuke doesn't DESERVE anyone, not with the way hes acted, just my opinion though.
#8533
Posted 16 January 2013 - 03:35 AM
I definitely will!
Kirabook, I'm actually the same. My favorite Sasuke pairing is SasuHina but that's only in fanfictionland.
"I absolutely can't let you die! I can't! I won't let you die ... your stupid dream ... now it's ... it's right in front of us!!" ----Sakura Haruno
#8534
Posted 16 January 2013 - 04:21 AM
A long time ago i find somewhere a scan of viz media version about kushina's advice on women to Naruto. And that tanslation was very distorted (I don't remember very well how they translated it now). If someone can post that scan it would be good...
from the original (japanese): http://raw.narutover.../narutoverse12/
"...変な女に...ひっかからないよーにね......! 母さんのような女を......見っけなさい....!!"
The correct translation is: "Don't caught in a strange woman...!! Find a woman like... your mother...!!"
But the version of my italian volume, edited by Planet Manga, is much different, something like that's viz media's version:
It says literally: "But let it go those who are goods for nothing... Find someone...like your mother!!
Do you see? They changed the meaning of first phrase... just like viz media has done, giving a speech more neutral like planet manga did.
Am curious about the version of your land... How they translated it if you have the volume...?
Because there's no doubt about the original version, there Kishi was very clear (even too much). he speaks about a strange woman.
And...? what's wrong with being neutral?? I'd actually like that neutral version than the flat out one. It leaves readers speculating more.
Suddenly Kushina's spirit appears in front of Naruto:
Kushina: Hey, that Sakura friend of your is pretty cute. Her energy reminds me of when I was young.
Naruto: Yeah I like her a lot, I'm just taking it slo-
Kushina: Do her.
Naruto: What?
Kushina: Go do her, now!

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#8535
Posted 16 January 2013 - 06:14 AM

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#8536
Posted 16 January 2013 - 09:19 AM
SS certainly has all that: it is pretty dark and messed-up ship with plenty of angst. I also tend to like characters that are very flawed, and Sasuke is totally like that and even Sakura has many flaws, though not as bad ones as Sasuke. I find the two of them very interesting as characters and the idea of them together is also compelling. What I also like about SS is that, even though it has so much darkness in it, it also has some sweet and genuinely good moments, for example even though in part I Sasuke sometimes treated Sakura coldly, he still considered her an important friend and was willing to die for her. Even in part two, Sasuke still occasionally thinks about Sakura and team 7, like he genuinely misses them. That combination of dark and light, cruel and sweet, is really fascinating for me. I also like the themes of redemption and making amends. If Sasuke can change and become a good person, then SS has a real chance to develop into a really good and happy bond. So SS basically has two flawed inviduals in a dark relationship, which still has a genuine chance to become a good and happy union. So a dark journey, but with (potential) happy ending. I really like all of these elements, especially together in the same storyline.
I think that Kishi hasn't really explored SS that much. It is a ship with very much potential, but Kishi hasn't really gone into that so much, not the way he has explored the NaruSasu bond. Just imagine how amazing* it would have been if Sakura had been playing the role Naruto has been playing
So there. It is kind of hard to list exactly every reason why I like SS, but hope this post gives at least some idea. I also have no idea if other SS shippers ship this for the same reasons. I might be some kind of exception, some lone SS weirdo.
(*Well, for me anyway. Maybe not for you since you ship some other couple.
Edit. I also ship NaruSasu, mostly for the same reasons I ship SS: the darkness of it all, yet many sweet moments. In NaruSasu I also really like how deep their bond is.
I have to agree with you on that , I'm a formerly SS fan and I liked them for that same reason and I stopped to ship them for the same reason that you commented, Kishi just don't explored them as a couple (and tbht the lack of feelings for Sasuke's side also bothered me). They had so much potential but Kishi stopped developing them when Sasuke left the village. If Sakura had been playing the role Naruto has been playing, it would be another story, I'd probably still ship SS (or both SS and NS idk)
I ship NaruSasu too but more because Naruto is the only one who can shake Sasuke's feelings. Naruto is the light in the Sasuke's darkness.
In NaruSaku is the same reason as yours, I love how deep their bond is but also I love how Sakura went from hating him to loving him (be it platonic or romantic.. don't matter), I think they work good together and they have that "equality" feelings that I like so much in couples, it's like no matter how strong naruto becomes or how much she comes to admire him, to her, he always will that baka Naruto that she likes so much, they can be themselves with each other and I really like it.

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#8537
Posted 16 January 2013 - 11:49 AM
I agree. Naruto and Sakura have this really really strong bond and I wouldn't say it's a sibling bond either. I mean, at times, I swear to freaking kami-sama that Sakura did seem interested in Naruto and the love they share for each other isn't just "teammate/friendship love" not even family love. In terms of Sakura's feelings, It seems like Kishi implied most of her feelings, but he hasn't confirmed them since Sakura is confused about them.
Oh o-o and Naruto can be seen as light...I guess. There was this one chapter cover thing where Hinata was shown in the light (i forgot which one) and apparently the databook had an old draft of it and Naruto was seen in the background as her "sun"... LOL now that you mention it xD Naruto's blonde hair can represent the light he gives to people. You know he even changed Gaara and stuff <3. AND HE SEES TRUTH WITH HIS BLUE EYES. /shot. And Sakura... well Sakura can represent life and rebirth... *A* just the fact that her name is relating to spring.
WELL theory time...Naruto = water + sun. Sakura = spring time sooo... Naruto supports Sakura and gives her life and stuff... I hope. I mean she has another reason to be living besides getting back Sasuke in my opinion. And he rejuvenates her spirit when she is feeling down or tries to. So they need to be together 8D to you know, create life and what not.
He can't give life to Hinata because xD she is already in the light
#8538
Posted 16 January 2013 - 12:24 PM
I agree. Naruto and Sakura have this really really strong bond and I wouldn't say it's a sibling bond either. I mean, at times, I swear to freaking kami-sama that Sakura did seem interested in Naruto and the love they share for each other isn't just "teammate/friendship love" not even family love. In terms of Sakura's feelings, It seems like Kishi implied most of her feelings, but he hasn't confirmed them since Sakura is confused about them.
Oh o-o and Naruto can be seen as light...I guess. There was this one chapter cover thing where Hinata was shown in the light (i forgot which one) and apparently the databook had an old draft of it and Naruto was seen in the background as her "sun"... LOL now that you mention it xD Naruto's blonde hair can represent the light he gives to people. You know he even changed Gaara and stuff <3. AND HE SEES TRUTH WITH HIS BLUE EYES. /shot. And Sakura... well Sakura can represent life and rebirth... *A* just the fact that her name is relating to spring.
WELL theory time...Naruto = water + sun. Sakura = spring time sooo... Naruto supports Sakura and gives her life and stuff... I hope. I mean she has another reason to be living besides getting back Sasuke in my opinion. And he rejuvenates her spirit when she is feeling down or tries to. So they need to be together 8D to you know, create life and what not.
He can't give life to Hinata because xD she is already in the light
Yea ur right it killed it cuz he went on to hold everyone's hand to give them chakra
#8539
Posted 16 January 2013 - 12:42 PM
#8540
Posted 16 January 2013 - 12:57 PM
hmm I doubt
I think this it's more like a way to "organize" them there ..

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