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#8461 Deej

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Posted 18 February 2012 - 11:32 PM

QUOTE (naruto-z @ Feb 14 2012, 12:41 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
In fact, as of right now, the two top possibilities for romantic outcomes is having no outcome at all or Narusaku, where having no outcome also seems unlikely simply due to Kishimoto's writing style who has put such a great emphasis on relationships in this manga (MinaKushi, JaraiTsu, KonaYahi, AsuKur, shall I keep going?).

There is an interesting pattern with the relationships you mention. Outside of Minato/Kushina, they are romances without any romance. Kishimoto doesn't care much for showing you how the couple formed. Just that they did. You don't see much outside of some hints, and then it is confirmed in a few panels. To him, the bonds of friendship are more important. The exception is Minato and Kushina since their love was their bond and it was vital to Naruto's story.

Yahiko-Konan: Nothing hinted at them having interest in each other until that one flashback panel with them about to kiss and Nagato smiling as he left them alone.

Jiraiya-Tsunade: We didn't learn at their regret over not hooking up until the time of Jiraiya's death.

Asuma-Kurenai: Zero hints of any romance except for Kakashi believing they were on a date, which they both denied. Then start of Shippuden and we learn they got married and Kurenai is pregnant. Interesting that Asuma never was shown with Kurenai in Shippuden once. His relationship with Shikamaru was more important.

I don't know how any of this plays with NaruSaku. It could mean nothing. But I think it shows Kishi isn't as interested in showing the development of a couple. Choji could end up with Ino with almost no development. ShikaTema has way more development than AsuKure did and is basically a carbon copy. Neji and Tenten could be together with no development. So it does make me afraid that NaruHina and SasuSaku can happen, even with their lack of development. The "epilogue" might be where everything happens.

Edited by Deej, 18 February 2012 - 11:37 PM.


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Posted 19 February 2012 - 02:08 AM

Forgive me if this is the wrong place to ask this question, but I remember I heard that NaruSaku is very popular at Japan(even more popular than NaruHina), and it was posted somewhere of the list of top Naruto parings in Japan. So I was just asking can anyone confirm this, and also do NaruSaku have any fan websites at Japan.

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Posted 19 February 2012 - 02:12 AM

QUOTE (4000TMNT @ Feb 18 2012, 08:08 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Forgive me if this is the wrong place to ask this question, but I remember I heard that NaruSaku is very popular at Japan(even more popular than NaruHina), and it was posted somewhere of the list of top Naruto parings in Japan. So I was just asking can anyone confirm this, and also do NaruSaku have any fan websites at Japan.

That's true as far as I know. I believe NaruSaku is the...second highest of the three? Not entirely sure. But I do know it's bigger than NaruHina over there. However, I believe SasuSaku is the most liked in Japan. And Then NaruSaku, then NaruHina. Though if I've heard right, NaruSaku is getting more and more popular in Japan. i don't know if it's true though.

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Posted 19 February 2012 - 03:04 AM

QUOTE (Konan-chan @ Feb 18 2012, 08:47 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Again, how does popularity affect anything?

That's true, popularity shouldn't mean anything. A good writer knows how to handle a fanbase and knows who to ignore and who to take advise from. Popularity is just something NH and SS fans like to make their petty little excuses over. If Kishi wants NaruSaku...then he writes NaruSaku. Which with the way everything's going, it looks like he likes NaruSaku. Or he just decided to screw NaruHina fans because of all of Sakura's bash mail.

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Posted 19 February 2012 - 04:22 AM

QUOTE (Fyuria'sLeo @ Feb 19 2012, 02:21 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Still think that NaruIno has more of a chance than NaruHina.

I always thought this. When Naruto first introduced Ino as "Sasuke-obaka", I thought that they were probably kittening about each other. Both of them think the other as "stupid" or "annoying." When Naruto first introduced Hinata, he said "a weird girl. I don't know much about her", and I thought that they probably had no communication at all.

For an ignored lonely kid like Naruto, a girl who called him "stupid" is a much bigger help than a girl who ignored him. Sure, Ino might not have been nice, but at least she thought of him as annoying. Being acknowledged as "annoying" is acknowledging Naruto himself, compared to being known as the "kyuubi brat" and therefore ignoring. So I think, Ino could be counted as one of the very few people who Naruto knows, acknowledged him in an early time. And I'm sure Naruto doesn't mind being called "annoying" or "stupid". Sasuke always thought of him as "annoying" or "stupid", and Sasuke's one of Naruto's most important bonds. "Annoying" and "stupid" are words directed at Naruto's actions itself so it's about knowing Naruto and noticing him.

This is a big contrast to Hinata. The villagers ignored him, Hinata wanted to speak to him but couldn't so in the end it looks like she ignored him. She was not there at the most important time of his childhood unlike Ino and Sakura. Calling him "annoying", "stupid", or fighting with him has a much better impact on Naruto than being ignored.

I hope people can understand what I mean.
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Posted 19 February 2012 - 04:51 AM

QUOTE (Sakura Lover @ Feb 18 2012, 04:15 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
and I still think that SasuHina has a better chance than NaruHina. smile.gif

...I really, really, really hope that you're not serious. sweatdrop.gif

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#8467 Minori

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Posted 19 February 2012 - 10:04 AM

QUOTE (zacrathedemon5 @ Feb 19 2012, 05:51 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
...I really, really, really hope that you're not serious. sweatdrop.gif

Same here. Sasuke and Hinata never even talked to each other. mellow.gif

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Posted 19 February 2012 - 10:10 AM

QUOTE (Minori @ Feb 19 2012, 10:04 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Same here. Sasuke and Hinata never even talked to each other. mellow.gif

problem? It's considered a crack-pairing for a reason.

Edited by Sakura Lover, 19 February 2012 - 10:20 AM.

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Posted 19 February 2012 - 10:26 AM

QUOTE (Sakura Lover @ Feb 19 2012, 10:10 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
problem? It's considered a crack-pairing for a reason.

ouch.

Okay, I'm not against your interest in SasuHina, but you said earlier that SasuHina has a better chance than NaruHina. Where's logic?

Sasuke must die a virgin just like Itachi. heheelq7.png

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Posted 19 February 2012 - 10:38 AM

QUOTE (Minori @ Feb 19 2012, 05:04 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Same here. Sasuke and Hinata never even talked to each other. mellow.gif


Hahahaa, actually, there's once. At the movie.

Hinata: "Sasuke-kun!"
Sasuke: "Urusai."

kruemelmonsteryn0.gif maybe Sasuke said that to Hinata, but maybe he didn't. You know, SasuHina quite popular at fanfiction world. You know, the fairy concept. pictureem0.gif
but not for canon. I prefer NejiHina whistling.gif

@babyvee: that's just ordinary conversation, not some romance moment. NH fans just being funny with the 'Naruto saves Hinata' things.

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Posted 19 February 2012 - 10:45 AM

QUOTE (Heaven on Earth @ Feb 19 2012, 10:38 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Hahahaa, actually, there's once. At the movie.

Hinata: "Sasuke-kun!"
Sasuke: "Urusai."

kruemelmonsteryn0.gif maybe Sasuke said that to Hinata, but maybe he didn't. You know, SasuHina quite popular at fanfiction world. You know, the fairy concept. pictureem0.gif
but not for canon. I prefer NejiHina whistling.gif

Yeah, I also like NejiHina. From what I know, if you're a Hyuuga clan member you can only marry another Hyuuga, right? And Neji seems to care about Hinata a lot. Wouldn't it be great if they ended up together? wink.gif

Edited by Minori, 19 February 2012 - 10:48 AM.


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Posted 19 February 2012 - 11:19 AM

QUOTE (BabyVee @ Feb 19 2012, 04:07 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Um I was talking about Neji, Kiba, and Shino's expression haha tongue.gif.

Like look at their faces after the big 'in your eyes/you're strong' moment:


They're not smiling mellow.gif . It doesn't even look like they're thinking 'awww what a cute moment!'.

I mean the best I've heard is that their expressions show 'something significant is happening'. But it doesn't look like that to me D:. Anyone else?

Naruto's wrong. It isn't all in Hinata's eyes, because she's completely blind. laugh.gif

All joking aside, I agree with you, they all do look quite blank. I personally don't think it can be considered a special moment whatsoever, it's most likely just one of Naruto's generic "believe in yourself, you can do it, dattebayo!" spirit-lifting moment, like with practically anyone else that don't have faith in themselves and that Naruto encounters.

QUOTE (Minori @ Feb 19 2012, 09:45 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Yeah, I also like NejiHina. From what I know, if you're a Hyuuga clan member you can only marry another Hyuuga, right? And Neji seems to care about Hinata a lot. Would be great if they ended up together. wink.gif

If Hinata ended up marrying someone in the Hyuuga clan, I think it would be Ko instead of Neji.

But yes, I do think it would be nice happy.gif

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Posted 19 February 2012 - 11:26 AM

QUOTE (Rocket @ Feb 19 2012, 12:19 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
If Hinata ended up marrying someone in the Hyuuga clan, I think it would be Ko instead of Neji.

But yes, I do think it would be nice happy.gif

I agree.

@Minori: I would say "same could be said for NaruIno", but a crack-pairing doesn't even need a reason. That's why it has "crack" in it. heheelq7.png I support SasuHina cause I think they look good together. Same as the pairing NaruSaku, ShikaIno, NaruIno, KibaHina, and so on. SasuHina is my second favorite pairing out of them all, NaruSaku being my favorite.

Edited by Sakura Lover, 19 February 2012 - 11:34 AM.

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Posted 19 February 2012 - 11:42 AM

QUOTE (Minori @ Feb 19 2012, 05:45 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Yeah, I also like NejiHina. From what I know, if you're a Hyuuga clan member you can only marry another Hyuuga, right? And Neji seems to care about Hinata a lot. Wouldn't it be great if they ended up together? wink.gif


i really like how neji grows from a cold-heart boy turns into a caring man towards hinata. maybe we can ask narunarunaru about the marry-interclan tradition in Japan. There's so much culture in my country n i found about marry between sibling to keep the bloodline pure.

also, i like neji's action in this war, oh my God, he's so cute wub.gif and .... dont kill me ppl, i just love leeten, so about neji, go get hinata! rawr.gif so narusaku will be forever in peace *kicked*

i just thought, if nejihina happen, maybe there's no more main-brach things on hyuuga clan sweatdrop.gif

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Posted 19 February 2012 - 11:59 AM

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i really like how neji grows from a cold-heart boy turns into a caring man towards hinata. maybe we can ask narunarunaru about the marry-interclan tradition in Japan. There's so much culture in my country n i found about marry between sibling to keep the bloodline pure.

You can ask me if you want,I mean I'am from Asia too. Well in our country,Marrying between sibling is a normal thing to us. And about the bloodline thing. Yes some countries in Asia wants to keep their bloodline pure.

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Posted 19 February 2012 - 12:34 PM

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@Minori: I would say "same could be said for NaruIno", but a crack-pairing doesn't even need a reason. That's why it has "crack" in it. heheelq7.png I support SasuHina cause I think they look good together. Same as the pairing NaruSaku, ShikaIno, NaruIno, KibaHina, and so on. SasuHina is my second favorite pairing out of them all, NaruSaku being my favorite.

You just said that a crack pairing has a better chance of happening that (lol, hate to even say this) almost-canon. But, let's forget about. I also like a lot of crack pairings (and it's yaoi sweat.gif ).

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Posted 19 February 2012 - 12:35 PM

QUOTE (Deej @ Feb 18 2012, 07:32 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
There is an interesting pattern with the relationships you mention. Outside of Minato/Kushina, they are romances without any romance. Kishimoto doesn't care much for showing you how the couple formed. Just that they did. You don't see much outside of some hints, and then it is confirmed in a few panels. To him, the bonds of friendship are more important. The exception is Minato and Kushina since their love was their bond and it was vital to Naruto's story.

Yahiko-Konan: Nothing hinted at them having interest in each other until that one flashback panel with them about to kiss and Nagato smiling as he left them alone.

Jiraiya-Tsunade: We didn't learn at their regret over not hooking up until the time of Jiraiya's death.

Asuma-Kurenai: Zero hints of any romance except for Kakashi believing they were on a date, which they both denied. Then start of Shippuden and we learn they got married and Kurenai is pregnant. Interesting that Asuma never was shown with Kurenai in Shippuden once. His relationship with Shikamaru was more important.

I don't know how any of this plays with NaruSaku. It could mean nothing. But I think it shows Kishi isn't as interested in showing the development of a couple. Choji could end up with Ino with almost no development. ShikaTema has way more development than AsuKure did and is basically a carbon copy. Neji and Tenten could be together with no development. So it does make me afraid that NaruHina and SasuSaku can happen, even with their lack of development. The "epilogue" might be where everything happens.


If you goin to make NH and SS without any development, way waste so much time on NaruSaku. You see all the pairing you mention never have a third option it was only about the two, minus Yahiko-Konan because there was Nagato, but even so there was no drama between the three.

With NH, SS and NS there is a big difference these couples involve the Main girl and Main guy and Sasuke is the Main guy rival... So is very obvios that we will not see development between third degree characters when it comes to Romance like Asuma-Kurenai, Jiraiya-Tsunade, Yahiko-Konan...

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Posted 19 February 2012 - 12:41 PM

And what about Obito-Rin-Kakashi? Dosn't remind you of anything? Pretty close to NaruSakuSasu love triangle story in my opinion.

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Posted 19 February 2012 - 12:57 PM

Well the example he use are from love coming from nowhere, with this one is not the same Obito love Rin and Kakashi told Rin that Obito love her, with Asuma-Kurenai for example it just happen and he is using this to prove that anything can happen.

Example:
Even with the evidence we have that Sasuke never felt any romantic love for Sakura or any special affection for her and later it became very clear that he doesn't see her that way + he even try to kill her... Reading the manga doesn't prove anything. Because anything can happen.

Does that make any sense.

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Posted 19 February 2012 - 01:04 PM

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Well the example he use are from love coming from nowhere, with this one is not the same Obito love Rin and Kakashi told Rin that Obito love her, with Asuma-Kurenai for example it just happen and he is using this to prove that anything can happen.

Example:
Even with the evidence we have that Sasuke never felt any romantic love for Sakura or any special affection for her and later it became very clear that he doesn't see her that way + he even try to kill her... Reading the manga doesn't prove anything. Because anything can happen.

Does that make any sense.

Eh... I wasn't referring to you post about NaruHina/AsuKure etc... I just remembered Obi/Rin/Kaka and how they are familiar to NaruSakuSasu, that's all. sweatdrop.gif

Edited by Minori, 19 February 2012 - 01:06 PM.





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