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Posted 20 September 2013 - 01:41 AM

 

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But why is Kubo titled the king of trolling in manga?

 

 

I agree. Most of the time people rage/jubilation over one chapter or one moment. Yet the thing is one needs to have patience to see where that moment is heading.

615 came with a pretty powerful romantic basis.

Afterwards comes 631 and shakes that all up.

I saw this a lot in Beelzebub between the rivalry of Hilda with Aoi but that rivalry needs to emphasized while in Naruto there is no Sakura Hinata rivalry.

 

If something as big as those 2 chapters come for either of the 3 big pairings then again we have to see which of them will get a follow up.

 

As for the pairing fandom in general...........we are horrible people. They take the Hinata is on the last page as proof, we speculate that because the chapter is about regrets and that Naruto shared his heart to everyone including Sakura then it foreshadows a moment in the future. Instead of following the story as it goes we seek pairings everywhere.

 

As for NS, I think it's very safe. Minato's comment weighs a lot, and it isn't to out of context for it not to be true.

If you ever read the manga Bleach, you would know.

 

The thing is that people have the reason to panic after 615, because there was no follow-up or more like we have to wait for one. I mean we had to wait 2-3 weeks for the next chapter with the bashing and plus, the forums was ambushed. Not joking. But now, there is no reason to worry and to make matter hopeful, 633 pretty much tells you what was it all about. That said 631 had both lead and follow-up, so why is it hard to understand, let alone acknowledge. I don't know but I know we are being nice and all, but the more they push me, the more when the moment arrive I will rub it hard in their face and I am a nice guy. I don't argue or anything, but there is always a limit.

 

The problem with us and everyone else is that we don't look at the manga as a whole or in general context, but instead, something pairing related when it's not intended to. That's why you don't hear talk about something so incredibly minor to the context. I will discuss when it's something that either needs to be addressed or something that is obscure. The worst part is that those who oppose will only get the worst of luck because the pairing plot doesn't collide with the actual plot, but it can very well happen here because of Obito. So in other words, if NS gets the center of it, that's incredibly hard to swallow. So in other words, when it happens, this is over. If you choose to continue, so be it, but I will be celebrating.



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Posted 20 September 2013 - 02:35 AM

i love to read fan fictions ,

 

When nh fans argue about my OTP , i love to read their logics that are in fan fictions  (get it?)


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Posted 20 September 2013 - 02:38 AM

If you ever read the manga Bleach, you would know.

 

The thing is that people have the reason to panic after 615, because there was no follow-up or more like we have to wait for one. I mean we had to wait 2-3 weeks for the next chapter with the bashing and plus, the forums was ambushed. Not joking. But now, there is no reason to worry and to make matter hopeful, 633 pretty much tells you what was it all about. That said 631 had both lead and follow-up, so why is it hard to understand, let alone acknowledge. I don't know but I know we are being nice and all, but the more they push me, the more when the moment arrive I will rub it hard in their face and I am a nice guy. I don't argue or anything, but there is always a limit.

 

The problem with us and everyone else is that we don't look at the manga as a whole or in general context, but instead, something pairing related when it's not intended to. That's why you don't hear talk about something so incredibly minor to the context. I will discuss when it's something that either needs to be addressed or something that is obscure. The worst part is that those who oppose will only get the worst of luck because the pairing plot doesn't collide with the actual plot, but it can very well happen here because of Obito. So in other words, if NS gets the center of it, that's incredibly hard to swallow. So in other words, when it happens, this is over. If you choose to continue, so be it, but I will be celebrating.

 

Lol. Sadly...I can see this happening. Ah well, moving on is what I would say.

I never understood why they call Kubo a troll . I don't see anything wrong with his work . Is it something I'm missing about his work that people call him a troll for .? 


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Posted 20 September 2013 - 02:50 AM

I never understood why they call Kubo a troll . I don't see anything wrong with his work . Is it something I'm missing about his work that people call him a troll for .? 

To be honest, it's a bit exaggerated but the one that always comes to mind is the "Who said it goes from 1-10?" scene. I laughed because it was like, "Really?" Remind of KHR where they just said, "Who said these are the REAL henchmen?" with over the top villains.



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Posted 20 September 2013 - 02:53 AM

I'm gunna go all out and say the next narusaku moment that happens will be the one that will stop all the debating because people will definitely see how obvious the endgame is now.

It would be nice to have a moment that is that definitive come up, but as Slextrem said, nothing is going to stop the debating.  I'm pretty sure that there are still Harry Potter and Avatar pairing debates - heck, I still think there might be Ranma 1/2 pairing debates.  And don't even get started on the Aeris-Cloud-Tifa love triangle from Final Fantasy VII.

 

That being said, I have high hopes for a NaruSaku moment in the upcoming volume.  :yes:

 

 

Nothing will ever stop the "debating". People always look for loop holes to explain why this or that happened the way that it did, and when they can't find any in the chapter itself, they make them up.

 

We all take different things away from each chapter, so this never ending fight will just keep going back and forth. Two characters could share a kiss on panel and there would still be arguments made that one character is confused, or they haven't had a chance to respond to so-and-so's confession yet, or it was just platonic, so on and so forth...

 

If anything, I can see this ship war worsening whenever the final pairing(s) are revealed. We're going to start seeing arguments like this: "Naruto and Sakura will break up eventually because she abuses him so much", or "Naruto's feelings for Sakura will eventually come between his relationship with Hinata", or "Sakura won't stay in a loveless marriage. Once she sees how Sasuke really is, she'll leave him." The speculation will never die.

This is all very true - people are almost always going to try and rationalize moments in order to fit their preconceived notions of the characters and relationships.  That being said, I do think if there is a mutual kiss, or mutual "I love yous" than I think only the most ardent of fans will try and argue that its not canon - though they will still likely have a negative interpretation of the relationship regardless (like the arguments after chapter 458 and 459 came out that Sakura was being guilted into loving Naruto).

 

and i wonder how did Naruto and Sakura met? im really curious about that

 

Me as well - I really hope that we get a flashback of little Naruto and Sakura - Naruto and Sasuke get a lot of them, and even Sasuke and Karin got one, so why not for Naruto and Sakura?  Perhaps when Naruto confesses to Sakura, or if Naruto's love for Sakura plays the role a lot of us NaruSaku fans think it may play in Obito's TnJ.


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Posted 20 September 2013 - 02:56 AM

To be honest, it's a bit exaggerated but the one that always comes to mind is the "Who said it goes from 1-10?" scene. I laughed because it was like, "Really?" Remind of KHR where they just said, "Who said these are the REAL henchmen?" with over the top villains.

so they call him a troll for the 1-10 scene .? 


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Posted 20 September 2013 - 02:57 AM

I have a serious question for everyone? Once Naruto and Sakura-Chan ends up together? What is going to happen to this site? What will it be left to talk about? 


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Posted 20 September 2013 - 03:07 AM

It would be nice to have a moment that is that definitive come up, but as Slextrem said, nothing is going to stop the debating.  I'm pretty sure that there are still Harry Potter and Avatar pairing debates - heck, I still think there might be Ranma 1/2 pairing debates.  And don't even get started on the Aeris-Cloud-Tifa love triangle from Final Fantasy VII.

 

That being said, I have high hopes for a NaruSaku moment in the upcoming volume.  :yes:

 

This is all very true - people are almost always going to try and rationalize moments in order to fit their preconceived notions of the characters and relationships.  That being said, I do think if there is a mutual kiss, or mutual "I love yous" than I think only the most ardent of fans will try and argue that its not canon - though they will still likely have a negative interpretation of the relationship regardless (like the arguments after chapter 458 and 459 came out that Sakura was being guilted into loving Naruto).

 

 

Me as well - I really hope that we get a flashback of little Naruto and Sakura - Naruto and Sasuke get a lot of them, and even Sasuke and Karin got one, so why not for Naruto and Sakura?  Perhaps when Naruto confesses to Sakura, or if Naruto's love for Sakura plays the role a lot of us NaruSaku fans think it may play in Obito's TnJ.

 

 

 

Oh, its already started.  I had the misfortune of stumbling across a one-shot where Naruto and Sakura were getting married, but the whole story focused on how sad Hinata was about it.  They portrayed Hinata as a selfless love martyr for suffering through attending Naruto and Sakura's wedding.  They made a bunch of the rookies attending the wedding angry at Naruto and/or Sakura for making Hinata sad, and made Naruto and Sakura feel guilty and ashamed when they interacted with Hinata.

Yeah, good point. But I will choose to move on because well that's just the way it should work for many. When it's done, it's done. You can make a fanfic, sure, but you can never altered the solid material that is the story. To me, I will move on but reflect how great it was the time with its pairing and the journey to it. Not to mention, how much fun I have with you guys in here. Kind of worries me on what happens when the manga ends. I'll keep on waiting as I enjoy my time in here.

 

That's true about the flashback. I do hope for something from them because again, Naruto came out already liking Sakura, only to get deep in chapter 3. The question is why. Sakura wasn't popular in the class nor she was in chapter 3. She was just well her though she did got bullied in her youth. That said what is it that got Naruto looking at her differently from others. I mean Jiraiya, we got to see his and Tsunade's beginning. Hard to say for Obito/Rin but for now, we got the day of becoming genin at the same time. So why not Naruto and Sakura? Is it possible that it's been hold for Obito? Only time can tell and the next volume is already driving me crazy.

 

As for the last part, well, let them do what they want. I got nothing against them, even if the story or anything somewhat annoys me, it's their minds.

 

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Posted 20 September 2013 - 03:10 AM

When NS becomes endgame then I expect there to be 1,076 fanfics about Sakura cheating on Naruto with Sasuke, Naruto walking out of the marriage with Sakura because of domestic violence and going to Hinata, Sakura dying and Hinata comforting Naruto that would lead to eventual romance, Naruto finding out that his kid "Minato" was actually a child between Sakura and Sasuke and so on and on.

Oh boy. Not looking forward to this. I can totally see this happening. I guess it'll be their way to cope once their shipper-hearts shatter into a million pieces. I've once seen NH and SS fans say that even if NS ends up canon, it won't last long and they'll eventually break up and both go to Sasuke and Hinata respectively. :| What would even be the purpose of making NS canon just so they can break up and go see different people...? Do they really expect things to play out that way?

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Posted 20 September 2013 - 03:12 AM

Oh boy. Not looking forward to this. I can totally see this happening. I guess it'll be their way to cope once their shipper-hearts shatter into a million pieces. I've once seen NH and SS fans say that even if NS ends up canon, it won't last long and they'll eventually break up and both go to Sasuke and Hinata respectively. :| What would even be the purpose of making NS canon just so they can break up and go see different people...? Do they really expect things to play out that way?

Whatever. Let them believe what they want to believe I suppose.

in all honesty if they do it , why should it matter .? NS will be canon in Kishi's story and thats all that will matter . They could make a fanfic that Naruto and Sakura-Chan  both go and hate each other and kill each other but that wouldn't bother me you wanna know why .?  because NS is officially canon we have all right to laugh at them if they do something like that .   I think in all honesty I will laugh at them alot if they do that . 


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Posted 20 September 2013 - 03:50 AM

When NS becomes endgame then I expect there to be 1,076 fanfics about Sakura cheating on Naruto with Sasuke, Naruto walking out of the marriage with Sakura because of domestic violence and going to Hinata, Sakura dying and Hinata comforting Naruto that would lead to eventual romance, Naruto finding out that his kid "Minato" was actually a child between Sakura and Sasuke and so on and on.

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Posted 20 September 2013 - 03:58 AM

in all honesty if they do it , why should it matter .? NS will be canon in Kishi's story and thats all that will matter . They could make a fanfic that Naruto and Sakura-Chan  both go and hate each other and kill each other but that wouldn't bother me you wanna know why .?  because NS is officially canon we have all right to laugh at them if they do something like that .   I think in all honesty I will laugh at them alot if they do that . 

 

Completely irrelevant but did you ever end up posting that video evidence you said you were going to do or are you still working on it?


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Posted 20 September 2013 - 03:59 AM

in all honesty if they do it , why should it matter .? NS will be canon in Kishi's story and thats all that will matter . They could make a fanfic that Naruto and Sakura-Chan  both go and hate each other and kill each other but that wouldn't bother me you wanna know why .?  because NS is officially canon we have all right to laugh at them if they do something like that .   I think in all honesty I will laugh at them alot if they do that . 

Yeah, you're right. It doesn't matter. It's still such a shame that they'd do this though :(. I just have to resist my curiosity and stay faraway from the opposing fanbases once NS becomes canon, because dear god it'll be a MESS over there. Regardless of the fact that I'd rather stay away from the opposing fanbases, I think I'd want to comfort NH/SS if NS becomes canon. It hurts when your OTP sinks. Believe me. I've been there. So I think they deserve the comfort (but not before I tell them, "I told you so!"  :P ). They're certainly going to bash, but there's nothing you can do about it. The least we can do if NS happens is to help calm them down rather than adding fuel to the inevitable fire.


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Posted 20 September 2013 - 04:05 AM

 

Completely irrelevant but did you ever end up posting that video evidence you said you were going to do or are you still working on it?

I'm still working on it I been busy with basketball , don;t get the wrong idea and think i've bee avoiding it because I'm not , I would love nothing more than prove some people wrong here .  I will put it up soon believe it .


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Posted 20 September 2013 - 04:40 AM

Yeah, good point. But I will choose to move on because well that's just the way it should work for many. When it's done, it's done. You can make a fanfic, sure, but you can never altered the solid material that is the story. To me, I will move on but reflect how great it was the time with its pairing and the journey to it. Not to mention, how much fun I have with you guys in here. Kind of worries me on what happens when the manga ends. I'll keep on waiting as I enjoy my time in here.

 

That's true about the flashback. I do hope for something from them because again, Naruto came out already liking Sakura, only to get deep in chapter 3. The question is why. Sakura wasn't popular in the class nor she was in chapter 3. She was just well her though she did got bullied in her youth. That said what is it that got Naruto looking at her differently from others. I mean Jiraiya, we got to see his and Tsunade's beginning. Hard to say for Obito/Rin but for now, we got the day of becoming genin at the same time. So why not Naruto and Sakura? Is it possible that it's been hold for Obito? Only time can tell and the next volume is already driving me crazy.

 

As for the last part, well, let them do what they want. I got nothing against them, even if the story or anything somewhat annoys me, it's their minds.

 

One last comment. Thank you, Paptala, for getting me to 200 Likes in the forums. I feel so special. Lol I'm kidding. We're all the same.

Yep - the journey to canon was a lot of fun, I agree, no matter what the ultimate end result is.  I'm sure this site will stay up for a while after the series ends, and I'm sure NF and the NS FC there will stay up even longer still - then there's always tumblr as well.

 

That's exactly it about the flashbacks!  I would really like to see how Naruto started liking Sakura, and how Sakura and Naruto's first meeting went down as well!  And thanks for reminding me that we saw a bit of how Tsunade and Jiraiya met as well!  Now that you mention it, we know how Minato and Kushina met too.  I hope that this flashback is just on hold, rather than that we'll never see it :umm:

 

About the fanfic, yeah, you're definitely right about letting them be and do what they want.  The story just really got under my skin at the time - though I guess that's more my fault for continuing to read when I should have realized exactly where it was going.  To each their own I guess.

 

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Posted 20 September 2013 - 06:37 AM

i second this so much.

 

i have been seeing "what about hinataaaaaa" on almost every sites including wikis :wallbash:. they think a person love is so easy to change  :argh:  like a friend of mine said "he doesn't see her in that light.. why can't girls understand that"

That reminds me a scene from Family guy when a girl asked a boy if they have math class together or something in those lines , he said '' yeah'' and she jumped off a window crying  .. :argh: :argh: :argh:  She liked him  that's why . ''Men, we don't know what we did '' :D

Its illogical , why should you love a person who you don't know the first thing of ? Why should you forget your feelings and jump over ? It doesn't make sense , it would feel like a rebound relationship to please your own needs . I think that is selfish. :umm:  And why the heck should Hinata get rewarded ? That question i've asked 1000 times and the answer is : Because she deserves him , or She loved him first , or she has earned it :argh: . -_-

Love Is NOT deserving , not a noble price or a gift .. :twitch:

 

If you ever read the manga Bleach, you would know.

 

The thing is that people have the reason to panic after 615, because there was no follow-up or more like we have to wait for one. I mean we had to wait 2-3 weeks for the next chapter with the bashing and plus, the forums was ambushed. Not joking. But now, there is no reason to worry and to make matter hopeful, 633 pretty much tells you what was it all about. That said 631 had both lead and follow-up, so why is it hard to understand, let alone acknowledge. I don't know but I know we are being nice and all, but the more they push me, the more when the moment arrive I will rub it hard in their face and I am a nice guy. I don't argue or anything, but there is always a limit.

 

The problem with us and everyone else is that we don't look at the manga as a whole or in general context, but instead, something pairing related when it's not intended to. That's why you don't hear talk about something so incredibly minor to the context. I will discuss when it's something that either needs to be addressed or something that is obscure. The worst part is that those who oppose will only get the worst of luck because the pairing plot doesn't collide with the actual plot, but it can very well happen here because of Obito. So in other words, if NS gets the center of it, that's incredibly hard to swallow. So in other words, when it happens, this is over. If you choose to continue, so be it, but I will be celebrating.

 

Lol. Sadly...I can see this happening. Ah well, moving on is what I would say.

 


Yes, people should acknowledge that in a relationship regardless on what level it is needs cohesiveness,consistency, coherence . It has to have a root like study friendship for example . Follow ups and most importantly both people have to be in it , not the other to be a paring fodder present to the other .. Love is complicated  , it doesn't happen over night , TRUE love is what lasts , it doesn't disappear at all.

Well, yeah sometimes you would just like to say '' I TOLD YA SO'' , because its very bad to bash the other .. 

Wait, how was the forum ambushed ? Did somebody attack/invaded  it ? :wot:

 

 


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Posted 20 September 2013 - 06:52 AM

That reminds me a scene from Family guy when a girl asked a boy if they have math class together or something in those lines , he said '' yeah'' and she jumped off a window crying  .. :argh: :argh: :argh:  She liked him  that's why . ''Men, we don't know what we did '' :D

Its illogical , why should you love a person who you don't know the first thing of ? Why should you forget your feelings and jump over ? It doesn't make sense , it would feel like a rebound relationship to please your own needs . I think that is selfish. :umm:  And why the heck should Hinata get rewarded ? That question i've asked 1000 times and the answer is : Because she deserves him , or She loved him first , or she has earned it :argh: . -_-

Love Is NOT deserving , not a noble price or a gift .. :twitch:

I remember that scene! hahah the boy said "yeah see ya" and she jumped out the window. :wot: i'm a girl but i too didnt realize what happened till i read the comments that the girl wanted the boy to walk her to class :excited:

well for hinata we know her reason, that she admire him for his, uh, fighting spirit or nindo. But I prefer Jiraiya's and Naruto's kind of love. The filler :cry:  ep 235 summed it up perfectly :wub:


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Posted 20 September 2013 - 07:06 AM

I remember that scene! hahah the boy said "yeah see ya" and she jumped out the window. :wot: i'm a girl but i too didnt realize what happened till i read the comments that the girl wanted the boy to walk her to class :excited:

well for hinata we know her reason, that she admire him for his, uh, fighting spirit or nindo. But I prefer Jiraiya's and Naruto's kind of love. The filler :cry:  ep 235 summed it up perfectly :wub:

Pretty much ,as for NS , there is a different story going on ,because its developed enough to go canon . It just takes Sakura to change her mind . A lot of people are displeased of that and i gave a lot of their ''arguments '' here with them they were incising that Sakura CANT change her mind  , but w/e , its not important, really .I adore Naruto's love too :P , its just so real :cry: :happy:


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Posted 20 September 2013 - 07:54 AM

Yep - the journey to canon was a lot of fun, I agree, no matter what the ultimate end result is.  I'm sure this site will stay up for a while after the series ends, and I'm sure NF and the NS FC there will stay up even longer still - then there's always tumblr as well.

 

That's exactly it about the flashbacks!  I would really like to see how Naruto started liking Sakura, and how Sakura and Naruto's first meeting went down as well!  And thanks for reminding me that we saw a bit of how Tsunade and Jiraiya met as well!  Now that you mention it, we know how Minato and Kushina met too.  I hope that this flashback is just on hold, rather than that we'll never see it :umm:

 

About the fanfic, yeah, you're definitely right about letting them be and do what they want.  The story just really got under my skin at the time - though I guess that's more my fault for continuing to read when I should have realized exactly where it was going.  To each their own I guess.

 

And your welcome :fan:

Good point. Don't want to miss you guys so soon when the day finally comes.

 

We can only hope for the flashback now. I do hope it is something that was on hold for this moment or anything. This is the same arc that we start seeing the inner depth of Naruto's past, including his first meeting with Sasuke. This is all about Naruto, so why not tackle on his love. Sure it can always be saved for the next arc, but this one seems right with Obito being centered around it as well as Minato. Is it coincidence? I don't know, but time will tell. By the way, it's been a while for me saying that line. :P

 

It's ok. Like you said, to each of their own. So, 200 likes and hope to continue to build more. :D

 

Yes, people should acknowledge that in a relationship regardless on what level it is needs cohesiveness,consistency, coherence . It has to have a root like study friendship for example . Follow ups and most importantly both people have to be in it , not the other to be a paring fodder present to the other .. Love is complicated  , it doesn't happen over night , TRUE love is what lasts , it doesn't disappear at all.

Well, yeah sometimes you would just like to say '' I TOLD YA SO'' , because its very bad to bash the other .. 

Wait, how was the forum ambushed ? Did somebody attack/invaded  it ? :wot:

Yeah, I understand. It's just man, don't go poking around, because it will bite back.

 

Forum was getting new members but for all the wrong intentions, so we got mods heavily busy to delete those posts and banning them. It was hell needless to say. I stood away from the forum for a day. Yeah, well, it's possible for round 2 but this time well you get the picture. Just in case, be prepared.



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Posted 20 September 2013 - 09:51 AM

Oh, its already started.  I had the misfortune of stumbling across a one-shot where Naruto and Sakura were getting married, but the whole story focused on how sad Hinata was about it.  They portrayed Hinata as a selfless love martyr for suffering through attending Naruto and Sakura's wedding.  They made a bunch of the rookies attending the wedding angry at Naruto and/or Sakura for making Hinata sad, and made Naruto and Sakura feel guilty and ashamed when they interacted with Hinata.

 

The bolded is what makes some of the positive exaggerations regarding Hinata seem so unbearable to me.  I already disliked the character quite a bit, and while I'm of the opinion that fanfictions and headcanons are a sort of free space, an arena in which it's more than OK to bastardize actual canon, it bothers me when headcanon or filler is used in debates/discussion about the actual manga.  When sometimes it seems as if I'm debating with someone reading Hinata instead of Naruto.

 

As to the sort of fanfictions and pairing wars that'll continue after the end of the manga, well with fanfictions I understand it.  It's a space for people to be creative, a space for people to enjoy stories in a slightly different manner.  That's fine, let people have that space.  If I had the dedication, attention span, creativity, and eloquence I would totally write a story about and older Naruto being forced into a political marriage of convenience (most probably with Konan or Konan's love child with Tendo Pain/Nagato), a story about some of the sacrifices he's forced to make, in what ways he has to settle in order to achieve his dream.  As to the continuation of the pairing wars, honestly, unless there's an open ending the pairing wars won't matter.  Once the last chapter/volume has been published and read, what if won't really matter.  What could happen or what might happen won't matter.  The only think that'll matter will be what happened, and what the last chapter indicates.  Maybe if the story ends with an unhappily wedded NaruSaku it would matter, but that won't happen, that's not the story Kishi's writing.

 

As to whether NS will happen or not, considering Kishimoto's writing style, considering how much more panel space Naruto and Sakura have had compaired to any other pair (including the most important pair --Naruto and Sasuke), considering Sakura is the most dynamic character of the series (most other characters who change, change suddenly, they have an epiphany moment, Sakura's change has been slow...she'll probably still have an epiphany but that won't negate the slow changes she's been making since Chapter 3), I think it would be incredibly bad writing for these two to not have some sort of closure.  Don't get me wrong, I've always felt that this couple is inevitable, but since becoming a shipper I realize that my opinion could now be biased, so I'll put it this way at this point in the manga I think the worst possible outcome for NS-fans is an open ending that heavily hints towards NS.  One that has those two essentially confess their feelings but realize it's too early for that sort of a commitment.  But my previous non-shipper self would say even that would be a sign of bad ending if it wasn't followed up with some sort of "future" epilogue that included showing Naruto and Sakura happily married, raising a child, and perhaps with one on the way; that is important, even though this isn't a romance-oriented manga, the Naruto-centric romance is important for a couple of reasons:

 

  1. The parallels:  I know that many of us are tired of parallels, we want some real development over more "closure of the parallels" (and yes, I am one of those people, though I do love the usage of parallels, haha), but still if Kishimoto doesn't follow up on the parallels that he has built up, parallels he's worked hard to mimic the NaruSaku and Team 7, so much would have been a waste, and it would be bad writing.  After all the build up, after exemplifying that Naruto and the genin team that Naruto was a part of will succeed where his predecessors fail, how would it make sense for Sakura not to realize her feelings before it's too late, for Naruto not to confess to Sakura before it's too late, for Naruto and Sakura to not be able to get together, have a child, and actually raise that child together?  If these aren't closed, it would just be excessively bad writing, it would be in opposition to Kishimoto's style, and it would have been a waste of panel space and brain power on Kishimoto's part.
  2. How would it make sense in this manga, considering the style of this manga for Naruto fail in "getting" the girl (I hate that phrase "getting the girl/guy" but that's what this is) that he has desired.  Had Naruto's feelings been shown to change, that would be one thing, but Naruto's feelings have been steadfast.  He hasn't shown the potential to change, and it has been reinforced multiple times that men stick by their women, even if their women don't want them.  It's also been reinforced that Naruto doesn't give up, he doesn't stop, he doesn't change.  As written, Naruto would stand aside if Sakura loved someone else, he would do so for her happiness (and he's oblivious enough that he wouldn't understand that the guy she loves might not love her back), but he wouldn't fall for someone else (unless maybe it's after he's confessed and been rejected).
  3. How can Naruto not get a family.  A family out of love, a legal, official family.  His greatest pain is loneliness, he tries to find family anywhere he can, everyone now adores him, they feel his heart, he's become a hero, he'll become some sort of messiah, he's willing to do anything for the world, and the world is now willing to do nearly anything for him.  But is that the same as having someone who'll just squeeze his hand, ask him to take out the trash or weed the garden, someone who'll be willing to get out of bed to get him a pair of socks because his feet are cold etc etc.  I'm just making things up, but the thing is Naruto's never really had that.  He might have to some degree while travelling with Jiraiya, but other than that ever when he was a child who did he have to ease his nightmares, to do little things for him, to allow him to do little things for them.  It doesn't have to be shown explicitly, but I think this is the sort of loneliness that Naruto still hasn't been given the opportunity to overcome yet, and it would be odd if there wasn't a major indication that he's finally going to have the opportunity to have a real, tangible, legal, and emotional family.

I hope that made sense, I'm dozing off as I type this...so...






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