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[Sakamaki Izayoi]

Well, be it two weeks, it's still recent.
That's the idea.

My opinion on this matter it's not because Sasuke tried ot kill Sakura and it's too recent, Sasuke did a lot of bad things for NAruto and her.
Sasuke is a horrible person to her, but she thinks she's a horrible person too, when it's not this is the reason why she wanted to deal with Sasuke, she wanted to do something for Naruto, she thought that she only bring pain to him, when sai told her "Sasuke brings a lot of pain to Naruto but i think you to does", she thinks that she and Sasuke are a burden to Naruto, so she made two choices, confess to Naruto and offer herself to him and let konoha deal with Sasuke while she makes Naruto happy, and if it fails she goes to kill Sasuke and make Naruto hates her and leave her life.

That was the most selfless act on 615 chapters.

Then she still views herself as a horrible person, some people argue that 573 changed her but for me it's the same speech she did before, she wants to help Naruto no matter what but ends up failling i hope this time she does not fail and fight with Naruto.

Edited by Dαrkrєrsŧ, 13 January 2013 - 07:17 PM.

[Chatte]

How long does it take to travel from the Land of Iron to Konoha? How much time passes between their return and Tsunade waking up from her coma? How much time passes between then and Naruto being sent on his "mission" to the island? How long does it take him to reach the island? How much time does he spend on the island? When does the war start? How much time does Sakura spend with Kakashi's unit? When does she leave for the medical tent? How much time is she working in the medical tent? When does Naruto leave the island with Bee? How long does it take him to reach the battlefield? When, during that time, does Sakura get confronted by the Lover Nin?

These are all questions that need to be considered when coming up with a timeline between Sasuke attacking Sakura and chapter 540. It's hard to come up with a solid timeline because there are a lot of things that happen off-panel and we aren't given a good perspective of how much time has actually passed. I believe it's been more than five days since the Summit Arc took place, as it would take at least a day to travel back to Konoha, another day before Tsunade wakes up, x amount of time for her to send Naruto to the island, x amount of time for Naruto to arrive at the island, who knows how long for the war to even start...

My guess is it's been, at the very least, a few weeks. That doesn't mean Sasuke isn't still fresh on her mind though. I imagine it would be very difficult to forget about your first love trying to kill you multiple times in the same day.

Well, yeah, you are indeed right! ^^
Now that at think about it, you both are right (Dαrkrєrsŧ)
However, the idea was that it's still somewhat fresh in her mind.
Hell, Sasuke was always there constantly in Naruto's mind.
It's the same with her.

[Slextrem]

...the idea was that it's still somewhat fresh in her mind.
Hell, Sasuke was always there constantly in Naruto's mind.
It's the same with her.

I agree completely. Whether it's been five days or three weeks since the Summit Arc, the events that happened there would have still been fresh in Sakura's mind during 540.

[xxRomanceGirlxx]

@RomanceGirl:

Lovely post! I agree with you completely. Without a doubt, Naruto has not gotten over his feelings for Sakura, and as you said, it's clear that Sakura has a bad impression of Sasuke. Given all of the development that she has with Naruto and the obvious change in attitude that she's had towards Sasuke, it's so much easier and makes much more sense for NaruSaku to become the canon pairing. NaruHina lacks development, and as you've stated, nothing has indicated that Naruto loves Hinata now. SasuSaku, well, that's a mess of it's own.

On my video, whenever I pointed out that 540 shows that Sakura doesn't like that she loves Sasuke, I received numerous comments stating that it doesn't matter, the fact that she still loves him is what's important. It's seems that some fans have completely overlooked Sakura's agony over her feelings for him. Maybe it doesn't matter to them, as long as SasuSaku becomes canon. Some said that Sakura falling in love with Naruto is impossible because of 540 - that, since Sakura still loves Sasuke despite him trying to kill her twice, it means she'll never get over him. It's interesting to see the perspective of the other fans. I never interpreted 540 in that way.

I think I know who you were debating with. Someone posted a nearly identical comment to that one on my video... The hypocrisy is horrible, I know. That's why I stopped "debating" with other fans. There really is no point to it. There's always one side that is too stubborn to acknowledge the arguments made by the other.

From my perspective, the NaruHina fans should've been crying tears of rage at the releases of 469-470. However, they didn't because they decided to not look too deeply into it and only focus on "Naruto's furious at Sakura. He says she's lying so it's true. Guess that means he doesn't love her anymore, after all." Honestly, re-reading the chapters and analyzing how Naruto was acting, it confirmed the exact opposite of it. If Sai truly wasn't enough for them and was merely assuming he loves her ( is all I can say) then Naruto himself proved Sai 100% correct. Whether or not he still loved Sakura was confirmed in 469-470 just as strongly as Sakura's love for Sasuke was in 540. It might not seem that way at first but it's actually very true.

My reasons? Naruto's reaction was very clear and distinct in it; it didn't match the behavior of someone who wasn't in love with the person that was confessing. They argue "What are you talking about?! Naruto got pissed and said she was lying to herself! It was negative!" There's your answer right there. He got angry at her for the first time ever. It clearly affected him enough to get so defensive and angry. It works against them far too easily. If Naruto truly had no feelings for her there, he would've been confused and uncomfortable not angry. Even if his feelings were a crush I'd expect him to act that way because she was implying love. Full-blown, messy, "I'd anything for you" love. She was saying it was more than a crush yet he didn't act weirded out by it. Which he would have at first. Maybe even say "Sakura-chan, I don't love you. And you don't love me either, you love Sasuke. Lying to yourself is stupid." Naruto's blunt by nature and since he didn't believe she loved him anyway, he wouldn't be worrying about hurting her feelings (Like he's possibly doing with Hinata right now if you want an example).

Yet he didn't do any of these things. Instead, he did pretty much the opposite. Why? Because he had an emotional investment in it. You have to have an emotional investment to get angry and defensive. Naruto clearly had some form of hurt in her confession, displayed when he said "This joke isn't funny, Sakura-chan." and then again angrily ("Gimme a break, Sakura-chan! I told you this joke isn't funny!" --Naruto). He was angry because it hurt him and he couldn't understand why she was doing it to him. It was obvious. Naruto called it a "joke" because he felt like Sakura wasn't taking his feelings seriously enough. Sure, he didn't confess yet and he has no knowledge that Sai told her his feelings but he wouldn't really care about that then. Naruto was still hurt by it, maybe feeling like she was purposely messing with him and getting his hopes up. Of course, I can understand if people argue that Naruto is over her because of that if Sai didn't explain her motives. She was thinking about him and how he'd react to Sasuke being killed. Because of that, Naruto forgave and no longer sees her somewhat badly like he did briefly during her confession. That's why Naruto getting over her after that was already debunked. You can thank Sai, NHers. Besides, you can't get over love that easily. Even though Sakura hurt him then, it doesn't mean he can get over her just like that. The NaruHina fans expect too much from him. Look at Sakura. Sasuke's hurt her far too much in the past but she still has feelings for him. It's human nature. You can move on but not right away. The Kage Summit wasn't even that long ago. Naruto can't move on to Hinata in such a sort amount of time. Don't they see that?

It actually does matter. Very much, in fact. Before this, Sakura still held that idealized version of Sasuke and how he thanked her by knocking her out when he left. Even when she went to kill him, she still hadn't realized how much he changed. Sakura was clinging onto Part 1 Sasuke which is why she couldn't kill him. After two murder attempts and a very wonderful image of him as laughing insane, high on bloodlust, and pretty much a raging, pissed off psycotic, it really gives you perspective. Basically, her idealized version of him shattered for the first time. She accomplished what Hinata hasn't and now has an image of the Sasuke now: the seeped in darkness Sasuke who "always pushes her away and breaks her heart." I can't imagine her be perfectly okay with having feelings for someone who has done so many horrible things. Sakura already verbally proved her shame over loving Sasuke to Naruto (That ain't a lie people. She sounded hurt and discouraged). Sasuke has always caused her pain but she's getting to the point where she's fed up with it. Sakura's sick of being miserable because of her extra attachment to him and knows she's better off without it. She's sad he's evil but it's stupid to say she's okay with loving Sasuke. She isn't, she wants her feelings gone. Sakura it also proved in her confession: she wants to love Naruto and get over Sasuke. She tried but she failed. Point is, seeing your love interest badly very easily motivates you to get over him. I also didn't see 540 like that, I can't be anything good to SS.

I'm sure you know as well. It was a comment from a guy on your video. I hadn't responded for many days because I didn't feel like looking at my inbox but by the time I did today, your video was already taken off. I kinda wish it wasn't xD, just so I could respond and point out his hypocrisy. But it does lessen my headaches.

I know, NaruSaku4Life. My rant nor this LAP is really neccessary. I just feel like expressing my opinions because that NaruHina hypocrisy comment motivated me to get all rant-y to you guys. But my LAPs are great! Whose complaining? I just wish the pairing wars would end soon. Or at least a NaruSaku moment shows up so the NH fans can quiet down a little.

Edited by xxRomanceGirlxx, 13 January 2013 - 09:08 PM.

[Chatte]

From my perspective, the NaruHina fans should've been crying tears of rage at the releases of 469-470. However, they didn't because they decided to not look too deeply into it and only focus on "Naruto's furious at Sakura. He says she's lying so it's true. Guess that means he doesn't love her anymore, after all." Honestly, re-reading the chapters and analyzing how Naruto was acting, it confirmed the exact opposite of it. If Sai truly wasn't enough for them and was merely assuming he loves her ( is all I can say) then Naruto himself proved Sai 100% correct. Whether or not he still loved Sakura was confirmed in 469-470 just as strongly as Sakura's love for Sasuke was in 540. It might not seem that way at first but it's actually very true.

My reasons? Naruto's reaction was very clear and distinct in it; it didn't match the behavior of someone who wasn't in love with the person that was confessing. They argue "What are you talking about?! Naruto got pissed and said she was lying to herself! It was negative!" There's your answer right there. He got angry at her for the first time ever. It clearly affected him enough to get so defensive and angry. It works against them far too easily. If Naruto truly had no feelings for her there, he would've been confused and uncomfortable not angry. Even if his feelings were a crush I'd expect him to act that way because she was implying love. Full-blown, messy, "I'd anything for you" love. She was saying it was more than a crush yet he didn't act weirded out by it. Which he would have at first. Maybe even say "Sakura-chan, I don't love you. And you don't love me either, you love Sasuke. Lying to yourself is stupid." Naruto's blunt by nature and since he didn't believe she loved him anyway, he wouldn't be worrying about hurting her feelings (Like he's possibly doing with Hinata right now if you want an example).

Yet he didn't do any of these things. Instead, he did pretty much the opposite. Why? Because he had an emotional investment in it. You have to have an emotional investment to get angry and defensive. Naruto clearly had some form of hurt in her confession, displayed when he said "This joke isn't funny, Sakura-chan." and then again angrily ("Gimme a break, Sakura-chan! I told you this joke isn't funny!" --Naruto). He was angry because it hurt him and he couldn't understand why she was doing it to him. It was obvious. Naruto called it a "joke" because he felt like Sakura wasn't taking his feelings seriously enough. Sure, he didn't confess yet and he has no knowledge that Sai told her his feelings but he wouldn't really care about that then. Naruto was still hurt by it, maybe feeling like she was purposely messing with him and getting his hopes up. Of course, I can understand if people argue that Naruto is over her because of that if Sai didn't explain her motives. She was thinking about him and how he'd react to Sasuke being killed. Because of that, Naruto forgave and no longer sees her somewhat badly like he did briefly during her confession. That's why Naruto getting over her after that was already debunked. You can thank Sai, NHers. Besides, you can't over love that easily. Even though Sakura hurt him then, it doesn't mean he can get over her just like that. The NaruHina fans expect too much from him. Look at Sakura. Sasuke's hurt her far too much in the past but she still has feelings for him. It's human nature. You can move on but not right away. The Kage Summit wasn't even that long ago. Naruto can't move on to Hinata in such a sort amount of time. Don't they see that?

It actually does matter. Very much, in fact. Before this, Sakura still held that idealized version of Sasuke and how he thanked her by knocking her out when he left. Even when she went to kill him, she still hadn't realized how much he changed. Sakura was clinging onto Part 1 Sasuke which is why she couldn't kill him. After two murder attempts and a very wonderful image of him as laughing insane, high on bloodlust, and pretty much a raging, pissed off psycotic, it really gives you perspective. Basically, her idealized version of him shattered for the first time. She accomplished what Hinata hasn't and now has an image of the Sasuke now: the seeped in darkness Sasuke who "always pushes her away and breaks her heart." I can't imagine her be perfectly okay with having feelings for someone who has done so many horrible things. Sakura already verbally proved her shame over loving Sasuke to Naruto (That ain't a lie people. She sounded hurt and discouraged). Sasuke has always caused her pain but she's getting to the point where she's fed up with it. Sakura's sick of being miserable because of her extra attachment to him and knows she's better off without it. She's sad he's evil but it's stupid to say she's okay with loving Sasuke. She isn't, she wants her feelings gone. Sakura also proved in her confession: she wants to love Naruto and get over Sasuke. She tried but she failed. Point is, seeing your love interest badly very easily motivates you to get over him. I also didn't see 540 like that, I can't be anything good to SS.

I'm sure you know as well. It was a comment from a guy on your video. I hadn't responded for many days because I didn't feel like looking at my inbox but by the time I did today, your video was already taken off. I kinda wish it wasn't xD, just so I could respond and point out his hypocrisy. But it does lessen my headaches.

I know, NaruSaku4Life. My rant nor this LAP is really neccessary. I just feel like expressing my opinions because that NaruHina hypocrisy comment motivated me to get all rant-y to you guys. But my LAPs are great! Whose complaining? I just wish the pairing wars would end soon. Or at least a NaruSaku moment shows up so the NH fans can quiet down a little.

You are sooo right about this!
God, every time I re-read the confession chapter (doing it now for other purposes, anyway) you find a new layer for both Naruto and Sakura's words and behavior around each other.

[xxRomanceGirlxx]

You are sooo right about this!
God, every time I re-read the confession chapter (doing it now for other purposes, anyway) you find a new layer for both Naruto and Sakura's words and behavior around each other.

Which is why the confession is one of my favorite moments in the manga. It was dramatic, complex, and also proved to us Naruto wouldn't always give in to Sakura. If it was serious enough, he'd have no problems at all telling her off or even getting angry with her ("Naruto would always be the weak one in the NS relationship." Really now? He's proved he can be borderline rude or overly blunt to her in the confession. He was too harsh but at least he proved he can stand up to her ). In fact, he actually accomplishes that better than Hinata who can barely do so. Basically it just proved even more why NaruSaku should be canon.

Edited by xxRomanceGirlxx, 13 January 2013 - 09:02 PM.

[Slextrem]

I'm sure you know as well. It was a comment from a guy on your video. I hadn't responded for many days because I didn't feel like looking at my inbox but by the time I did today, your video was already taken off. I kinda wish it wasn't xD, just so I could respond and point out his hypocrisy. But it does lessen my headaches.

Ah, I thought so. There were many NH and SS fans taking over the comment section, but I recognized that guy. He was getting into it with a lot of people....

Unfortunately, someone reported my video and eventually youtube took it down for copyright infringement, although it should have been protected under fair use. It's a shame that the video had to be removed. I believe you would have had quite a response for him.

But as you said, it's nice not dealing with the headache.

[Chatte]

Which is why the confession is one of my favorite moments in the manga. It was dramatic, complex, and also proved to us Naruto wouldn't always give in to Sakura. If it was serious enough, he'd have no problems at all telling her off or even getting angry with her ("Naruto would always be the weak one in the NS relationship." Really now? He's proved he can be borderline rude or overly blunt to her in the confession. He was too harsh but at least he proved he can stand up to her ). In fact, he actually accomplishes that better than Hinata who can barely do so. Basically it just proved even more why NaruSaku should be canon.

It prove about both of them that even if they are going to be in a relationship, they can still be individual and stand up to one another.
Thing that Hinata lacks. When she slapped Naruto, that look of hers was like "So..sorry I had to slap you!" thing, you know.
I like the fact that they're not submissive to one another.
And sorry to say it, but I do see Hinata getting submissive in this relationship, meaning NH.
Or if not submissive, leaving out of it, herself, because, as I always said, I don't see her coping with that crazy, pervert Naruto.
Whereas Sakura, has been doing this every time and every time she had kept him in check when he went overboard.

[redragon88]

I keep remembering how Shikaku once told Shikamaru that even the roughest women can be tender to the one they love. It was because Shikamaru was expressing his dislike of bossy women.

I think it might've been a hint towards Kishi's intention when it came to developing possible relationships. Even the relationship with Minato and Kushina was implied to be like this. With Kushina winning every argument she ever had against Minato expect for the last one with Naruto, which let her know how serious he was about it.

This could indicate that Kishi has a preference for developing couples where the girl isn't afraid to be strict and bossy with the guy she love, but that she'll also have moments when she'll show her tenderness as a reminder of how much she cherishes that guy despite her temper.

Now, with that being said, I can't imagine for the life of me anyone more perfect to do that with Naruto than Sakura. No matte how gutsy Hinata can become I just can't imagine her being strict with Naruto when the time requires it. She can be a very incredible loving girl with him, but that's all she'll offer. Sakura, on the other hand, can be as much and even more loving that Hinata, but also be bossy enough to not let Naruto get away with everything he pleases.

When I think about how Hinata will react to Naruto in daily life I simply see her agreeing with everything he says and does because of her feelings for him. This is another reason as to why I'm perplexed at people saying Hinata became like Kushina in the latest chapter. Just because she finally has courage to speak her mind when the situation is dire doesn't mean she automatically has a complete change in personality, even in the last panels she starts stuttering again. Hinata is still the same tranquil girl she's always been. The difference is not in her personality, it's in her newfound courage. I sometimes wonder if people are expecting Hinata to suddenly start shouting "Hell yeah" or something like that.

Hinata has inherited Naruto's nindo and determination, so from now on every time she has to face up a crisis she'll be able to do it to her full power. That is what Naruto has left with her. The latest chapter is proof of that. It's not about showcasing Hinata to be like Kushina, it's not about showcasing Hinata as Naruto's ray of light, and it's definitely not about Naruto seeing Hinata in a romantic light because she's now brave. It's all about showing the influence Naruto has left in her.

I think I got a little side track but the point is that the one more fitting to take role described by Shikaku when it comes to a wife is Sakura. She know when to be bossy, but also when to be tender. Sakura is the one most fitting to prevent Naruto from being overtly silly or doing whatever he pleases.

This actually makes me wonder into what kind of arguments did Minato and Kushina got into. It's hard to imagine Minato doing mistakes that merit Kushina's wrath, but you never know.

I guess the point Kishi is trying to make is that from time to time men can make mistakes and it's nice that they can have a girl who is capable of telling them off so that they are less prone to the same errors in the future.

With all this being said I just can't imagine Kishi putting Naruto with Hinata, when she the least likely girl in the world to act strict with him. Or putting Sasuke with Sakura, when he's the guy who she'll less likely act bossy around.

Heck, when you think about it with Sasuke at the very least Karin is capable of being bossy and strict with him. I'm not saying that means they will end up together, but if we go by Shikaku's comment Karin is the best candidate to end up with Sasuke. She's not afraid to tell him off when he's reckless, she's called him a weakling and an idiot when she's seen him risk his life in fights, and has no issues disagreeing with his plans if she doesn't like them. She also the only girl that likes him that doesn't bother with the -kun suffix, indicating that even though she finds him appealing that she doesn't care is she acts rude in front of him.

[Chatte]

I keep remembering how Shikaku once told Shikamaru that even the roughest women can be tender to the one they love. It was because Shikamaru was expressing his dislike of bossy women.

I think it might've been a hint towards Kishi's intention when it came to developing possible relationships. Even the relationship with Minato and Kushina was implied to be like this. With Kushina winning every argument she ever had against Minato expect for the last one with Naruto, which let her know how serious he was about it.

This could indicate that Kishi has a preference for developing couples where the girl isn't afraid to be strict and bossy with the guy she love, but that she'll also have moments when she'll show her tenderness as a reminder of how much she cherishes that guy despite her temper.

Now, with that being said, I can't imagine for the life of me anyone more perfect to do that with Naruto than Sakura. No matte how gutsy Hinata can become I just can't imagine her being strict with Naruto when the time requires it. She can be a very incredible loving girl with him, but that's all she'll offer. Sakura, on the other hand, can be as much and even more loving that Hinata, but also be bossy enough to not let Naruto get away with everything he pleases.

When I think about how Hinata will react to Naruto in daily life I simply see her agreeing with everything he says and does because of her feelings for him. This is another reason as to why I'm perplexed at people saying Hinata became like Kushina in the latest chapter. Just because she finally has courage to speak her mind when the situation is dire doesn't mean she automatically has a complete change in personality, even in the last panels she starts stuttering again. Hinata is still the same tranquil girl she's always been. The difference is not in her personality, it's in her newfound courage. I sometimes wonder if people are expecting Hinata to suddenly start shouting "Hell yeah" or something like that.

Hinata has inherited Naruto's nindo and determination, so from now on every time she has to face up a crisis she'll be able to do it to her full power. That is what Naruto has left with her. The latest chapter is proof of that. It's not about showcasing Hinata to be like Kushina, it's not about showcasing Hinata as Naruto's ray of light, and it's definitely not about Naruto seeing Hinata in a romantic light because she's now brave. It's all about showing the influence Naruto has left in her.

I think I got a little side track but the point is that the one more fitting to take role described by Shikaku when it comes to a wife is Sakura. She know when to be bossy, but also when to be tender. Sakura is the one most fitting to prevent Naruto from being overtly silly or doing whatever he pleases.

This actually makes me wonder into what kind of arguments did Minato and Kushina got into. It's hard to imagine Minato doing mistakes that merit Kushina's wrath, but you never know.

I guess the point Kishi is trying to make is that from time to time men can make mistakes and it's nice that they can have a girl who is capable of telling them off so that they are less prone to the same errors in the future.

With all this being said I just can't imagine Kishi putting Naruto with Hinata, when she the least likely girl in the world to act strict with him. Or putting Sasuke with Sakura, when he's the guy who she'll less likely act bossy around.

Heck, when you think about it with Sasuke at the very least Karin is capable of being bossy and strict with him. I'm not saying that means they will end up together, but if we go by Shikaku's comment Karin is the best candidate to end up with Sasuke. She's not afraid to tell him off when he's reckless, she's called him a weakling and an idiot when she's seen him risk his life in fights, and has no issues disagreeing with his plans if she doesn't like them. She also the only girl that likes him that doesn't bother with the -kun suffix, indicating that even though she finds him appealing that she doesn't care is she acts rude in front of him.

Well, you kinda expanded what I would have wanted to say, heh! ^^
I love how Karin acts with Sasuke and I love how Sakura acts with Naruto, when both of them, Naruto or Sasuke, act overboard.
Sakura isn't afraid to slap Naruto, Karin is not afraid to hurt Sasuke's pride about himself and call him idiot.
I just love those two, really!

[xxRomanceGirlxx]

It prove about both of them that even if they are going to be in a relationship, they can still be individual and stand up to one another.
Thing that Hinata lacks. When she slapped Naruto, that look of hers was like "So..sorry I had to slap you!" thing, you know.
I like the fact that they're not submissive to one another.
And sorry to say it, but I do see Hinata getting submissive in this relationship, meaning NH.
Or if not submissive, leaving out of it, herself, because, as I always said, I don't see her coping with that crazy, pervert Naruto.
Whereas Sakura, has been doing this every time and every time she had kept him in check when he went overboard.

I think that's why NaruHina bores me as a couple. I don't find it cute and even with 615, I feel like Naruto's personality would bulldoze her all the time. She's just not the "type" for a hyperactive, stubborn, hot-headed guy. Yeah she's in love with one but I just always picture Hinata being so submissive around him it wouldn't be fair. (Funnily enough, the Rock Lee anime made a parady over it. xD) Honestly, I think Naruto would get bored with it as well. I think part of the reason why he likes Sakura so much is because she's more challenging and assertive. It's like a "challenge" for him. That's partly why he loves Sakura. xD He loves challenges. And god imagine the kids! If Naruto's personality is dominant, she wouldn't be able to keep up with them at all! One Naruto's bad enough. At least with Sakura, you know she'd be more strict and tough with them. She can handle Naruto so she could probably handle them with ease. (NaruSaku kids would have some colorful personalities, I can tell ya. )

Edited by xxRomanceGirlxx, 13 January 2013 - 09:47 PM.

[Sakamaki Izayoi]

From my perspective, the NaruHina fans should've been crying tears of rage at the releases of 469-470. However, they didn't because they decided to not look too deeply into it and only focus on "Naruto's furious at Sakura. He says she's lying so it's true. Guess that means he doesn't love her anymore, after all." Honestly, re-reading the chapters and analyzing how Naruto was acting, it confirmed the exact opposite of it. If Sai truly wasn't enough for them and was merely assuming he loves her ( is all I can say) then Naruto himself proved Sai 100% correct. Whether or not he still loved Sakura was confirmed in 469-470 just as strongly as Sakura's love for Sasuke was in 540. It might not seem that way at first but it's actually very true.

My reasons? Naruto's reaction was very clear and distinct in it; it didn't match the behavior of someone who wasn't in love with the person that was confessing. They argue "What are you talking about?! Naruto got pissed and said she was lying to herself! It was negative!" There's your answer right there. He got angry at her for the first time ever. It clearly affected him enough to get so defensive and angry. It works against them far too easily. If Naruto truly had no feelings for her there, he would've been confused and uncomfortable not angry. Even if his feelings were a crush I'd expect him to act that way because she was implying love. Full-blown, messy, "I'd anything for you" love. She was saying it was more than a crush yet he didn't act weirded out by it. Which he would have at first. Maybe even say "Sakura-chan, I don't love you. And you don't love me either, you love Sasuke. Lying to yourself is stupid." Naruto's blunt by nature and since he didn't believe she loved him anyway, he wouldn't be worrying about hurting her feelings (Like he's possibly doing with Hinata right now if you want an example).

Yet he didn't do any of these things. Instead, he did pretty much the opposite. Why? Because he had an emotional investment in it. You have to have an emotional investment to get angry and defensive. Naruto clearly had some form of hurt in her confession, displayed when he said "This joke isn't funny, Sakura-chan." and then again angrily ("Gimme a break, Sakura-chan! I told you this joke isn't funny!" --Naruto). He was angry because it hurt him and he couldn't understand why she was doing it to him. It was obvious. Naruto called it a "joke" because he felt like Sakura wasn't taking his feelings seriously enough. Sure, he didn't confess yet and he has no knowledge that Sai told her his feelings but he wouldn't really care about that then. Naruto was still hurt by it, maybe feeling like she was purposely messing with him and getting his hopes up. Of course, I can understand if people argue that Naruto is over her because of that if Sai didn't explain her motives. She was thinking about him and how he'd react to Sasuke being killed. Because of that, Naruto forgave and no longer sees her somewhat badly like he did briefly during her confession. That's why Naruto getting over her after that was already debunked. You can thank Sai, NHers. Besides, you can't get over love that easily. Even though Sakura hurt him then, it doesn't mean he can get over her just like that. The NaruHina fans expect too much from him. Look at Sakura. Sasuke's hurt her far too much in the past but she still has feelings for him. It's human nature. You can move on but not right away. The Kage Summit wasn't even that long ago. Naruto can't move on to Hinata in such a sort amount of time. Don't they see that?

It actually does matter. Very much, in fact. Before this, Sakura still held that idealized version of Sasuke and how he thanked her by knocking her out when he left. Even when she went to kill him, she still hadn't realized how much he changed. Sakura was clinging onto Part 1 Sasuke which is why she couldn't kill him. After two murder attempts and a very wonderful image of him as laughing insane, high on bloodlust, and pretty much a raging, pissed off psycotic, it really gives you perspective. Basically, her idealized version of him shattered for the first time. She accomplished what Hinata hasn't and now has an image of the Sasuke now: the seeped in darkness Sasuke who "always pushes her away and breaks her heart." I can't imagine her be perfectly okay with having feelings for someone who has done so many horrible things. Sakura already verbally proved her shame over loving Sasuke to Naruto (That ain't a lie people. She sounded hurt and discouraged). Sasuke has always caused her pain but she's getting to the point where she's fed up with it. Sakura's sick of being miserable because of her extra attachment to him and knows she's better off without it. She's sad he's evil but it's stupid to say she's okay with loving Sasuke. She isn't, she wants her feelings gone. Sakura it also proved in her confession: she wants to love Naruto and get over Sasuke. She tried but she failed. Point is, seeing your love interest badly very easily motivates you to get over him. I also didn't see 540 like that, I can't be anything good to SS.

I agree but i disagree with the bolded one, that scene is not just about it, she wants to love Naruto, i think it comes since the begining of part 2, but what she did there was for another purpose, after Sai revelations she thought that she was a bad person and made Naruto suffer with her "promise" because Naruto loved her and that promise was much like "i really love Sasuke" to Naruto, it really hurts him like the hospital scene.
That "i love you" on her mind was like about of some sort of redemption for her "on her mind" which i didnt liked it, Sakura left a stubborn impression there, she does not know why Naruto loves her, she think he's a fool for loving her, later she tried to kill Sasuke as an last attempt to do something for Naruto.

For me Sakura is a girl that is struck between Naruto and Sasuke, she wants to help both but can only help one, and it's Naruto, she tries to do her best but always end up failing or sticking to the idea that she's useless and cant do anything for him.

Edited by Dαrkrєrsŧ, 13 January 2013 - 09:37 PM.

[TouKen4Life3g]

Which is why the confession is one of my favorite moments in the manga. It was dramatic, complex, and also proved to us Naruto wouldn't always give in to Sakura. If it was serious enough, he'd have no problems at all telling her off or even getting angry with her ("Naruto would always be the weak one in the NS relationship." Really now? He's proved he can be borderline rude or overly blunt to her in the confession. He was too harsh but at least he proved he can stand up to her ). In fact, he actually accomplishes that better than Hinata who can barely do so. Basically it just proved even more why NaruSaku should be canon.

It's been surfacing around lately. In anime, they had a special animators to work on it, especially those lightings when Naruto told her about lying. Interviewers mentioned the confession, not truly understanding the true background on it. Even the video game brought that scene in their own version, which btw games tend to ignore all the romantic and comedy segment from the manga, since the game focus to please fans and newcomers with action and story. It is proven by showing very little of both fronts, especially Hinata's confession, which got ignored entirely. In games, NS got more starpower as you can say and again, brought in the confession scene with their own version (example: Naruto and Sakura are the only one there). Why is there? It's not necessary and also, mind you that games change the way on how one person goes to the next scene (example: how Naruto goes to Team 7 location without sneaking away from Yamato). Basically, what I'm trying to say is that confession made a publicity.

[Chatte]

From what I've seen with Sakura after re-reading this... it only enforces the idea that she thinks she loves Sasuke. No, she is just overly not necessarily worried... dunno exact how to put it, however, when it came to Naruto's safety, she had no problem in calling him a criminal as well as when they faced, she glared at him once again for offending Naruto.
Dunno if you guys understand what I mean...it a bit hard to explain, have to give it more of a thought to understand it better.

[xxRomanceGirlxx]

It's been surfacing around lately. In anime, they had a special animators to work on it, especially those lightings when Naruto told her about lying. Interviewers mentioned the confession, not truly understanding the true background on it. Even the video game brought that scene in their own version, which btw games tend to ignore all the romantic and comedy segment from the manga, since the game focus to please fans and newcomers with action and story. It is proven by showing very little of both fronts, especially Hinata's confession, which got ignored entirely. In games, NS got more starpower as you can say and again, brought in the confession scene with their own version (example: Naruto and Sakura are the only one there). Why is there? It's not necessary and also, mind you that games change the way on how one person goes to the next scene (example: how Naruto goes to Team 7 location without sneaking away from Yamato). Basically, what I'm trying to say is that confession made a publicity.

So much attention goes to that scene because it's a really big deal. NaruHina fans love to say differently but the fact is, they care about it enough to constantly debunk NS fans and their theories over it. So they acknowledge it as a big deal, whether they realize it or not. It's so highly focused because it's so controversial. For so long, NS was one-sided. And then bam: Sakura confesses, in a crowd of people, no less (I think what's always amused me about the scene. Neither Sakura or Naruto cared that there were people around him. Hell, Sakura hugged then argued right to his face without even giving a glance to the people around. They were entirely focused on each other, despite the romantic undertones Sakura created. Both of them certainly aren't shy. ) Was she lying? Was Naruto right? Does Sakura actually love Naruto? These are the questions that have crossed all her minds at one point. It's so vague and unclear, you get too many different opinions over it. And it's gonna remain that way until it's gets resolved. I laugh at those who think Sakura's confession will never be brought up again.

Edited by xxRomanceGirlxx, 13 January 2013 - 09:58 PM.

[T XD]

Didn't Kishi say that he made Sakura's confession an honest one, but he was surprised with the reaction of some fans ?

[Sakamaki Izayoi]

Didn't Kishi say that he made Sakura's confession an honest one, but he was surprised with the reaction of some fans ?

She didnt lied but she didnt tell the truth that what kishi meant, Sakura has feelings for Naruto but she hasnt realized this yet, because she loves Sasuke, she was honest when she said "i love you".

Naruto left her with no option other than try to kill Sasuke.

He admitted that he didnt played that scene well.
He tried to despict her as a heroine doing a selfless act for Naruto but instead he give more fuel to Sakura haters, because he stated again that she loved Sasuke which was obvious because first he said that she was doing that for Naruto but later says that's for Sasuke.

Edited by Dαrkrєrsŧ, 13 January 2013 - 11:41 PM.

[Chatte]

Lol, what do you guys think about this?



They're so meant to be, right?

[Sakamaki Izayoi]

Lol, what do you guys think about this?



They're so meant to be, right?

I cant stand this byakugan holy kitten.!

[kirabook]

Rarely does Sakura looks so upset and rarely does Hinata ever look confident like that. XD