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[Derock]

I don't think so the only reason he created Hinata it's because he needed a third member for team 8. He already had Kiba and Shino but he needed a third member and he eventually he thought it had to be a female because the other teams has one female member.

Team 7- Sakura

Team 10- Ino

Team Gai- Tenten

So eventually Kishi created a female character for team 8 and that was Hinata it happened because of the first sketch he drew of her wearing a dress and a ring with Naruto in the far background staring at the sun (yeah I'm talking about the same drawing that a certain fandom were saying that it was solid proof that Kishi was planning on making a certain pairing canon since the beginning of his manga ).

However, you forget, Kishimoto had said that Hinata was originally intended to be a villager (basically a real support character), not a ninja. Not sure if that one is true though... can someone find the facts about this one?

[Gravenimage]

However, you forget, Kishimoto had said that Hinata was originally intended to be a villager (basically a real support character), not a ninja. Not sure if that one is true though... can someone find the facts about this one?

Oh yeah I forgot about that too you're right .

But it's true that information is written in Hinata's bio page on the section" character creation and conception".

[Derock]

Oh yeah I forgot about that too you're right .

But it's true that information is written in Hinata's bio page on the section" character creation and conception".

Thanks. Just to make sure the source/fact is correct.

[Zin]

For Sasuke, he said he wasn't intended on creating him in the first place. That was a fact. But for Sakura, he said he wasn't intended for her to become the main female lead, because of how the way he drew her. He did planned on making her, but probably a support character (I wonder, if Sakura wasn't to become the main female, who was? And it better not be Hinata)

Ah, ok. Strange how a character he never intended to create is one the most important characters in the show. Makes me wonder what the original outline of Naruto looked like...

Well...I'll refrain from cynicism for once and just say that perhaps if Hinata had as much character development as Sakura she wouldn't be as bad. Still, I prefer Sakura, she's more...outgoing ? Passionate ? Spirited ? Something along those lines. Sakura also meshes with Naruto far better than Hinata in many ways. (both romantically and as teammates) At least that's my opinion.

[ahmed]

So eventually Kishi created a female character for team 8 and that was Hinata it happened because of the first sketch he drew of her wearing a dress and a ring with Naruto in the far background staring at the sun (yeah I'm talking about the same drawing that a certain fandom were saying that it was solid proof that Kishi was planning on making a certain pairing canon since the beginning of his manga ).

where this image (that you talk about it ) come????? and when??? it is the first time i had heard about it

Edited by ahmed, 20 July 2010 - 08:31 PM.

[Gravenimage]

where this image (that you talk about it ) come????? and when??? it is the first time i had heard about it

Don't get too worked up about that. It was just the first sketch Kishi drew of Hinata, it had Naruto barely visible in the drawing staring at the sun. N/H fans said it was solid proof that Kishi will make NH canon in his manga because Naruto staring at the sun and Hinata's name means" sunny place".

In my opinion I think its silly to think an early sketch of a character makes a pairing canon in a manga rather than looking through the whole development two characters have in the entire manga.

Edited by Gravenimage, 20 July 2010 - 08:43 PM.

[ahmed]

Don't get too worked up about that. It was just the first sketch Kishi drew of Hinata, it had Naruto barely visible in the drawing staring at the sun. N/H fans said it was solid proof that Kishi will make NH canon in his manga because Naruto staring at the sun and Hinata's name means" sunny place".

In my opinion I think its silly to think an early sketch of a character makes a pairing canon in a manga rather than looking through the whole development two characters have in the entire manga.

how that sketch was published..dont say that was in the shonen jump magazine

but i think if that is realy may be that was in kishi's head first to make nartuo with hinata like it was what will happen in the first of the series

Edited by ahmed, 20 July 2010 - 08:48 PM.

[Toasty Warrior]

One thing's for certain, we'll never know the inner workings of Kishimoto's mind and he'll continue to throw us curve balls and putting wrenches in our plans of what we think should happen.

[Miss Soupy]

Ah, ok. Strange how a character he never intended to create is one the most important characters in the show. Makes me wonder what the original outline of Naruto looked like...

Well...I'll refrain from cynicism for once and just say that perhaps if Hinata had as much character development as Sakura she wouldn't be as bad. Still, I prefer Sakura, she's more...outgoing ? Passionate ? Spirited ? Something along those lines. Sakura also meshes with Naruto far better than Hinata in many ways. (both romantically and as teammates) At least that's my opinion.

You can actually read the pilot chapter of Naruto you know XD It is nothing like the actual story...Naruto is the son of the Kyuubi in that story. Both Sasuke and Sakura were created due to the push of Kishi's editors. Sasuke as Naruto's rival and Sakura to add to that rivalry between them.

[ShippudenGirl]

Hey guys, one thing to say: How can Naruto "stare at the sun"? o_o' His eyeballs would burn...

[Derock]

Hey guys, one thing to say: How can Naruto "stare at the sun"? o_o' His eyeballs would burn...

You're right about that. Well, technically, Naruto will be blind as a bat since he doesn't worn any scientific protection (thank you Mutto from Zula Patrol!).

[Gravenimage]

Derock i love your avatar and siggy I love Chun Li.

[Derock]

Derock i love your avatar and siggy I love Chun Li.

Off-topic:

Thanks! Its all about Chun-Li (and recently, Cammy too!) I love and adore the first ladies of SF!

*avatar and siggy not mine though, they are borrowed!*

[Nate River]

He has definitely changes his themes around, though, particularly with the destiny vs decision thing. In the beginning Naruto and Neji were fighting over fate and what birthright really meant. Now Naruto is a "child of prophecy", his brotherly/rival relationship with Sasuke "destined", and even his favourite colour orange being a product of his parents. Naruto was destined to be something great--so he wasn't a loser after all. How does this match up to what he was saying before in Part 1?

This is one thing I absolutely hated about his heritage, and why Kushina carrying the nine-tails bugged me so much. As you say, Naruto's appeal in Part I was his ability to succeed against all odds and when he had no business doing so, but now we found he's a legacy of the fourth, the nine-tails carrier and a connection to the Senju clain? It's enough to the rival the Uchiha legacy.

[pinkheartsyellowstars]

...Guys, "I have been seeing ANS posts saying that, they don't believe Sakura's feelings for Naruto are romantic yet she never realize it not true." And it would then back it up with Hinata's saving from Pain, which was eventually ignored until now.

[ShippudenGirl]

You actually make a really good point Nate - when I first saw the series (Yes, I watched the whole part 1 before reading the Manga //fail//) I thought the best part was his hopes to succeed above all others who looked down on him and prove that he can do anything >.< NowheisrelatedtoaHokageandhismommywasaJinchuuriki... Though, the whole being related to the Fourth was way obvious to me- jus' sayin'. So much for the whole "You create your own destiny" thing

>.< Unless... I misunderstand... I happen to do that a lot.

[catsi563]

actually I entirely disagree with the notion that his being related to the 4th and Kushina being the prior Jichuriki automatically renders all his hard work moot.

Its honestly not even a real issue when we consider that hes still taking the same attitude, work hard and succeed.

theres been no evidence to support that its changed him in the slightest save to reinforce his mindset of never giving up and further motviate him to find the peace hes seeking.

[Dreamer]

Actually some of the popular mangaka's didn't plan for their original story plots lasting this long. Kubo originally planned for Bleach ending after SS arc but due to popularity he continued the story. I bet Kishi wanted Naruto to originally end in part 1 but had to change his mind as well.

[Daniee]

You actually make a really good point Nate - when I first saw the series (Yes, I watched the whole part 1 before reading the Manga //fail//) I thought the best part was his hopes to succeed above all others who looked down on him and prove that he can do anything >.< NowheisrelatedtoaHokageandhismommywasaJinchuuriki... Though, the whole being related to the Fourth was way obvious to me- jus' sayin'. So much for the whole "You create your own destiny" thing

>.< Unless... I misunderstand... I happen to do that a lot.

"There's no such thing as destiny" wasn't really the message in that storyline. Naruto's parentage doesn't change the fact that he was once a loser who failed the academy three times and just barely passed it the fourth. According to Neji, he was destined to be a failure forever because people's lives are controlled from birth by some unseen force that is impossible to escape from; Naruto proved him wrong.

[ShippudenGirl]

Actually some of the popular mangaka's didn't plan for their original story plots lasting this long. Kubo originally planned for Bleach ending after SS arc but due to popularity he continued the story. I bet Kishi wanted Naruto to originally end in part 1 but had to change his mind as well.

Nah, seeing as Naruto wanted to become Hokage and rescue Sasuke, and become strong I'd figure Kishi intended on having a part two. So many unanswered questions... U_U'

And i'm being attacked by people disagreeing with me XD! -- *Runs to a corner and shivers*