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[sushi.]

Is Madara targeting Kakashi to take eye..the only left Uchiha eye? Will he kill Kakashi

[KnS]

So will 662 be remembered (when the manga is over of course) as the moment where NaruSaku became "endgame" irrefutably? Or was there an earlier less obvious time? 

 

Chapter #3 for me.  An author doesn't create such an obvious romantic setup like that for nothing.

 

For me, Kushina was the point of no return. It's like he took Sakura made a couple of tweeks and said: Behold! New character! I've gotten kicks to the nuts that were more subtle.

 

Easily the best laugh of the day.  

 

I fuckin' knew it! The word "絶対に/zettai ni" ("absolutely/sure as hell") that Sakura used in this chapter and also gave the title to the same chapter, was not something new to me. So I went to download the raw vol. 15, the one whhere Naruto and Gaara battled for Sakura's sake. And guess what Naruto said when he summoned Bunta for the first time in chapter 134?



サクラちゃんは...絶対にオレが守る！！
Naruto: I will absolutely protect...Sakura-chan!!

Now in this chapter, the 663:



絶対に死なせる訳にはいかないのよ！！
Sakura: No way I will absolutely let you to die!!/No way I'll let you to die, sure as hell to it!!

It's also the word that gave the title to the chapter!

Now I know that it might not be something definitive but it's definitely a nice surprise for me...and for you too, I hope.

Kishi, I know what you did here! Parallelism everywhere...

 

So in the chapter 134 Naruto was willing to give eveyrthing in his power for protecting Sakura-chan.

And Sakura in this chapter 663 is willing to give  everything in her power for not letting Naruto to die.

 

 

I'm glad to get the confirmation.  That was totally the vibe I got while reading -- that Gaara being in the mix was important -- and what I was referring to in this post.  Even down to the fact that Naruto and Sakura used the same language to express their feelings.  Awesome.  

 

It's really not just about Gaara having witnessed Naruto's love and determination to save Sakura and how he's seeing Sakura's love and determination to save Naruto.  It's a matter of the concept coming full circle for Gaara -- that what matters is the love you have for others, how it makes you strong, and how it gives life meaning.

 

Gaara was profoundly affected by having witnessed Naruto's love for Sakura.  How will he be affected now that he has seen that kind of love and dedication returned?  This could be a very important aspect of Gaara's final characterization as well.

[MangaReader]

Is Madara targeting Kakashi to take eye..the only left Uchiha eye? Will he kill Kakashi

I assume the other eye meant the Rinnegan Obito still currently owns

[sushi.]

I assume the other eye meant the Rinnegan Obito still currently owns

Yes but the text said Kakashi. Or maybe it was just the editor's note, I think he knows pretty well who we care more about.

[MangaReader]

Yes but the text said Kakashi. Or maybe it was just the editor's note, I think he knows pretty well who we care more about.

Well that's Kakashi's location, but it'll be nice to see him again... Long are the day where Kakashi was the most broken ninja though 

[六道仙人]

Is Madara targeting Kakashi to take eye..the only left Uchiha eye? Will he kill Kakashi

Editor's preview didn't say that Madara will target Kakashi for his left eye...

He just said "Finally Madara is over against Kakashi and friends...!?"

Madara wants Obito's left eye which belonged to him once, before to give them to Nagato.

The left eye of Kakashi is Obito's, not Madara.

Edited by 六道仙人, 08 February 2014 - 01:00 AM.

[DattebayoXShannaro]

Editor's preview didn't say that Madara will target Kakashi for his left eye...

He just said "Finally Madara is over against Kakashi and friends...!?"

Madara wants Obito's left eye which belonged to him once, before to give them to Nagato.

The left eye of Kakashi is Obito's, not Madara.

 

What does the even mean,"over against"?

[sushi.]

Editor's preview didn't say that Madara will target Kakashi for his left eye...

He just said "Finally Madara is over against Kakashi and friends...!?"

Madara wants Obito's left eye which belonged to him once, before to give them to Nagato.

The left eye of Kakashi is Obito's, not Madara.

I see. I didn't remember the exact sentence, only that Kakashi's name was highlighted. ;p

 

What does the even mean,"over against"?

Probably 'heading to', you know their location.

[soraandven]

I kittenin' knew it! The word "絶対に/zettai ni" ("absolutely/sure as hell") that Sakura used in this chapter and also gave the title to the same chapter, was not something new to me. So I went to download the raw vol. 15, the one whhere Naruto and Gaara battled for Sakura's sake. And guess what Naruto said when he summoned Bunta for the first time in chapter 134?



サクラちゃんは...絶対にオレが守る！！
Naruto: I will absolutely protect...Sakura-chan!!

Now in this chapter, the 663:



絶対に死なせる訳にはいかないのよ！！
Sakura: No way I will absolutely let you to die!!/No way I'll let you to die, sure as hell to it!!

It's also the word that gave the title to the chapter!

Now I know that it might not be something definitive but it's definitely a nice surprise for me...and for you too, I hope.

Kishi, I know what you did here! Parallelism everywhere...

 

So in the chapter 134 Naruto was willing to give eveyrthing in his power for protecting Sakura-chan.

And Sakura in this chapter 663 is willing to give  everything in her power for not letting Naruto to die.

 

ah my favorite part 1 fight is in relation to this just as i hoped it would

[六道仙人]

What does the even mean,"over against"?

the text just said "in front of/over against"... Keep in the mind that usually these previews are about the future events, nof just the imminent chapter by force... It's inevitable that Madara will reach the Kakashi&Friends' side sooner or later.

[DattebayoXShannaro]

the text just said "in front of/over against"... Keep in the mind that usually these previews are about the future events, nof just the imminent chapter by force... It's inevitable that Madara will reach the Kakashi&Friends' side sooner or later.

 

Oh, okay, thanks.

[Atheck]

Aww, but I wanted Kabuto to meet up with Naruto, not Sasuke.

Likewise. The source of his drive to become the being he is was always intricately linked not only to Orochimaru, but to Naruto as well. He saw how Naruto was able to change his destiny and overcome the preconceptions that imprisoned him within the shadow of the Kyuubi. Perhaps Kabuto saw it as a parallel to his own internal confliction; not knowing who he was, struggling to come to a conclusion about what his own existence meant. Everything he experienced, the notions of a social construct like villages, nations, emotional loyalty or allegiances, by his own words they were empty without meaning.

It was through losing Orochimaru, the template of what Kabuto believed to be a correct system for achieving self-enlightenment and a man whom he cherished deeply in his mind, that spurred him to reach out to the beliefs that Naruto followed for comfort and to use as a blueprint which he could situate the reflection of his own life on.

You could say that Kabuto became a follower to Naruto's philosophy. An ostracised believer who corrupted these notions that were held to be "virtuous" (by "good guy" standards) when he based them on the same dark principals of Orochimaru. It's a perverted interpretation of those ideals which Kabuto, unlike other villains who spurned Naruto's idealism at first, chose to bask himself in as an antagonist still. That's probably one of the greatest insults that he could make yet it could be looked at as flattery also because he's shaping the meaning of his life that he chose of his own free will akin to Naruto's desire to be known for his own actions.
 
Even with the inevitability of Kabuto being changed, I still think they should meet at least one more time.
 

Madara may want to unite the Yin and Yang halves, and go after Minato and co.  With his powers, he can easily catch up with them.  I wouldn't be surprised if he beats Gaara to the location, anyway.

If Madara was able to blitz Naruto before when he had only his living body to work with, I think he'll reach Kakashi and Minato in no time. Even if Gaara arrives first, Madara will probably show up soon afterwards. Like you, I'm really curious to see where Kishi intends to have events go next.

Edited by Atheck, 08 February 2014 - 03:13 AM.

[DattebayoXShannaro]

Likewise. The source of his drive to become the being he is was always intricately linked not only to Orochimaru, but to Naruto as well. He saw how Naruto was able to change his destiny and overcome the preconceptions that imprisoned him within the shadow of the Kyuubi. Perhaps Kabuto saw it as a parallel to his own internal confliction; not knowing who he was, struggling to come to a conclusion about what his own existence meant. Everything he experienced, the notions of a social construct like villages, nations, emotional loyalty or allegiances, by his own words they were empty without meaning.

It was through losing Orochimaru, the template of what Kabuto believed to be a correct system for achieving self-enlightenment and a man whom he cherished deeply in his mind, that spurred him to reach out to the beliefs that Naruto followed for comfort and to use as a blueprint which he could situate the reflection of his own life on.

You could say that Kabuto became a follower to Naruto's philosophy. An ostracised believer who corrupted these notions that were held to be "virtuous" (by "good guy" standards) when he based them on the same dark principals of Orochimaru. It's a perverted interpretation of those ideals which Kabuto, unlike other villains who spurned Naruto's idealism at first, chose to bask himself in as an antagonist still. That's probably one of the greatest insults that he could make yet it could be looked at as flattery also because he's shaping the meaning of his life that he chose of his own free will akin to Naruto's desire to be known for his own actions.
 
Even with the inevitability of Kabuto being changed, I still think they should meet at least one more time.

 

This.  This so much!!

 

And it's possible Kabuto meeting up with Naruto could still happen.  If it is Kabuto at the end of the chapter, I picture him doing some emergency first aid, and then leaving.  When Orochimaru and Taka reach Sasuke, they find his condition stable and wonder who could have done this.  It's not likely he'll stay there until Orochimaru arrives, or he does, and once Sasuke is conscious they all together to find Madara, and once they get there, Kabuto discovers Naruto's condition, though due to the time that would take.  I'm hoping for the first scenario.  Really, once Kabuto confronted Naruto, along with Yamato and Kakashi during the Second Sasuke Retrieval arc, I wanted another meeting between them.  That earns a followup.  If the fire and wind element combination follow up happened, then this should happen as well, because it's more important than that, in my opinion.
 

If Madara was able to blitz Naruto before when he had only his living body to work with, I think he'll reach Kakashi and Minato in no time. Even if Gaara arrives first, Madara will probably show up soon afterwards. Like you, I'm really curious to see where Kishi intends to have events go next.

 

Definitely, Madara will appear and who knows what he'll do, besides getting the other Rinnegan.  That has me most concerned right now.

[FireFox]

Well I'm glad for one thing how many of the neutrals on every Naruto forum already accepted NS as cannon even if it isn't yet , even some of the NH and SS has done that . But of course there are those that are hardcore shippers who deny it to the max , and try to explain that NH will happen just because Hinata is the one who is the most devoted to Naruto  even though the only time i can think of Hinata supporting Naruto is in 615 , they simply fail to see how much Sakura is devoted to Naruto supporting him in every goal and dream in his life and vice versa with Naruto to Sakura . I really think that these fans have mixed up the devotion thing with her idolizing him and only thinking of her goals and dreams all in all it's all about Hinata . But like i said i'm glad that most of the fans are realizing this now and acknowledge her faults as a character and in the NH relationship , and that some of them supported NH cus she was a nice sweet girl , that she was prettier than Sakura and cus she has big boobs (seriously this disgust me  ) , but oh well not every thing can be a win win but i'm really glad the feats that Sakura and NS has gained form this recent chapters .

 

About Madara's defeat , if that guy in front of Sasuke is really Kabuto then i think he's gonna be Madara's downfall , the reason i say this is because didn't Kabuto had some kind of a antidote for the Hashi Senju cells ? I'm sure he threatened Tobi with this one or he was about to use it on Yamato i think this happened after Yamato was taken by him , either way if that man is Kabuto than that is gonna be his trump card for defeating Madara along with what Sasuke gain from Hashi so he can stop Madara's SM and with Naruto with his power up , i think this is gonna put the nail in the coffin for Madara.        

[Atheck]

It would be fitting if Kabuto was the one to uncover an untapped defect in Madara's power with that antidote. He's the one who originally resurrected him after all. A form of recompense for his past crimes albeit I don't think it's anywhere near enough to mitigate the decades worth of unethical experimentations, kidnappings, and killings that he's participated in.

 

I'm hoping he gets an opportunity to make peace with Team 7 before the end of the manga. 

[xxRomanceGirlxx]

I'm definitely one of those fans saying Kabuto will save Sasuke. I think it's a good idea. It finally gives Kabuto something to do and makes him not trapped in Itachi's genjutsu the entire time. I am not particularly fond of Kabuto's method of "redemption", but I think this is the obvious direction. Kabuto will learn the errors of his ways and repay Itachi by "saving" Sasuke. However, while I believe this is the plausible outcome and Sasuke will definitely survive, I can't help thinking if it's Kabuto on the scene there will be some sort of "catch" to it. Considering Kabuto also wants Sasuke's body (lol that sounds so wrong), I'm having trouble believing he'll entirely change. He'll save Sasuke. He will be on his feet again in no time, but it's definitely going to more complicated than that. Maybe Team Taka will arrive too or something.

 

As for Madara, it looks like things are about to get really interesting if he's converging where Kakashi and Minato are. Naruto, Sakura, and Gaara are also going to the same place. I'm gonna guess, depending on how long it takes for Madara to get there, we might see him cause a lot of problems if he decides to take the other half of Kurama from Minato to overpower himself. It'll be fascinating to say to least over how the characters (particularly Sakura, Minato, & Kakashi) will respond to it.

Edited by xxRomanceGirlxx, 08 February 2014 - 05:33 AM.

[TouKen4Life3g]

Madara is the one that may cause Naruto to die. That will be messed up.

[Hokage Sennin]

 

Good thing is many NS fans are acknowledging its just CPR, we aren't making this into our version of 615, we know its just CPR, I mean its really the first screentime naruto and sakura are mouth to mouth and there is a bit of reason why we are happy but unlike the extreme NS fans or anyone that just hates NS, the point of this moment isnt the CPR.

 

The point of this moment is not the medical stuff she is doing, its the reaction she gives him in this state, the inner thoughts about supporting his dream and promising/doing anything in her power to make sure naruto survives. Thats the point of the moment, yet many fans on all ends would either miss or ignore this. Its not the CPR we like, its the thoughts towards naruto sakura gives.

 

It's not what you do for Naruto that is important. It's how strongly you feel about him that counts.

[soraandven]

 

It's not what you do for Naruto that is important. It's how strongly you feel about him that counts.

hopefully the full setence can be said this time if its brought up

[FireFox]

It would be fitting if Kabuto was the one to uncover an untapped defect in Madara's power with that antidote. He's the one who originally resurrected him after all. A form of recompense for his past crimes albeit I don't think it's anywhere near enough to mitigate the decades worth of unethical experimentations, kidnappings, and killings that he's participated in.

 

I'm hoping he gets an opportunity to make peace with Team 7 before the end of the manga. 

Yes that's the way i see it also , i want  to find  his inner peace   but i don't want the things that he , Oro and even Sasuke have done to be brushed of just like that it would fell very unreal to me , the most i can see them is the three of them along with Taka  leading the Sound village under the guidance of Sasuke as a Kage of the Sound , i think allowing them to live is more than a fair compensation any more than that is just unreal imo.