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#821 Sakamaki Izayoi

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Posted 18 May 2012 - 07:17 PM

QUOTE (ultranx @ May 18 2012, 06:37 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
tell me, do you read the interviews? i don't think you read them, especially the newest one in febuary on shonen jump alpha in which kishimoto said naruto and sasuke are yin and yang, total opposites. i subscribed to shonen jump alpha to compare the real interview to the one on likenaruto and the one on likenaruto is real too.
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@Sobojo i do not agree 100% with because sasuke has chosen his path, he tried to kill sakura and naruto not because of hate or anything he wants to break this bond(with naruto),
i dont think that sakura means something to him , cuz he tried to kill her two times without hesitation, if he deep inside had something related to love or caring as a ex-teammate he would hesitate, he hates naruto cuz he think naruto deny his ninja way and pursue him and it annoys him cuz he thinks that naruto does not know his reasons for doing .
cmon he wanted to kill his former teacher his path is "DARK AND FULL OF TERRORS" MWHAHUWUHAWUAWUHA


about interviews @ i dont agree 100% because he said a lot of things and some of them did not get confirmed like (year of the kakashi, and shikamaru being a confident to naruto in other words "best friend") .

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Posted 18 May 2012 - 07:34 PM

Does anyone know where i can read sakura's file on the 3rd databook?
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Posted 18 May 2012 - 08:01 PM

QUOTE (ichaichamaster @ May 18 2012, 08:34 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Does anyone know where i can read sakura's file on the 3rd databook?


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Posted 18 May 2012 - 08:30 PM

QUOTE (dovahkiin @ May 18 2012, 03:17 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
@Sobojo i do not agree 100% with because sasuke has chosen his path, he tried to kill sakura and naruto not because of hate or anything he wants to break this bond(with naruto),
i dont think that sakura means something to him , cuz he tried to kill her two times without hesitation, if he deep inside had something related to love or caring as a ex-teammate he would hesitate, he hates naruto cuz he think naruto deny his ninja way and pursue him and it annoys him cuz he thinks that naruto does not know his reasons for doing .
cmon he wanted to kill his former teacher his path is "DARK AND FULL OF TERRORS" MWHAHUWUHAWUAWUHA

In Sasuke's defense (I can't believe I'm actually writing those words laugh.gif ) Sakura was attempting to assassinate him those two times. If I was an Sasuke's place and current state of mind I would respond the exact same way. Sasuke wasn't about to take the risk of Sakura catching him by surprise like she did the second time, so he took advantage of her hesitation to kill her.

It's not only Sakura either, Sasuke out to kill a bunch of people since his descend to darkness: first was Danzo, with Karin as expendable, then he tried on Sakura, later he went for Kakashi, then Sakura again, after that he was gunning for Naruto, then he wanted to kill everyone on the Leaf, and finally Naruto talked him down to coming after him first. It seems Sasuke is taking lessons from the Honey Badger and he just doesn't give a f#ck anymore, good thing Naruto was able to do some talk-no-jutsu on him.

Putting aside feelings of love or friendship, Naruto, Sakura, Kakashi and Sasuke all share the same thing: a bond. That bond always torments Sasuke and he wants to eliminate it at all cost, which is why he wants to take Naruto out first. Sasuke can prove that Naruto's ninja way is completely wrong by eliminating him and he'll be able to destroy Team 7's bond while doing so since Naruto is basically the super glue of that bond. With that achieved Sasuke will be able to do vengeance without any distractions.

What some say might be Sasuke loving Sakura in part 1 I see it more as him wanting to cherish the new bonds he has forged. Him wanting to protect Sakura during the forest of death and during Gaara's assault holds the same significance as to when he protected Naruto from Haru's ice attacks, nearly costing him his own life. Part 1 Sasuke appreciated the bond he had with his teammates, even if he said he found them annoying. He wanted to protect those bonds no matter what, sadly the temptation of revenge happened. Which brought us to Part 2 Sasuke trying to deny those connections.

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Posted 18 May 2012 - 09:36 PM

thanks.

i guess even if naruto went super depresed he wouldnn't go around and kill his loved ones unless he's a kitten. so i think there is no excude for what sasuke has done, i mean really, the only way out for him to see the light before his death
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Posted 18 May 2012 - 09:51 PM

about interviews @ i dont agree 100% because he said a lot of things and some of them did not get confirmed like (year of the kakashi, and shikamaru being a confident to naruto in other words "best friend") .


okay, to whoever said that, this isn't a raw translation or anything, i'm talking about this interview is what is on shonen jump alpha and you have to pay to get it, it's members only, you have to have a subscription.the one on likenaruto is the same exact one posted illegally so they're probably going to get in trouble sooner or later. so basically you are saying this is unofficial when it is completely official. i freaking payed $25 dollars for a year long subscription to see this, so of course it is official. all they did on likenaruto was print screen or something. every single bit of that interview is on shonen jump alpha, even the little naruto character pictures

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Posted 18 May 2012 - 10:00 PM

QUOTE (ultranx @ May 18 2012, 07:37 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
tell me, do you read the interviews?

I read all interviews and Databooks.
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i don't think you read them, especially the newest one in febuary on shonen jump alpha in which kishimoto said naruto and sasuke are yin and yang, total opposites. i subscribed to shonen jump alpha to compare the real interview to the one on likenaruto and the one on likenaruto is real too.
http://www.likenarut...view-kishimoto/ by the way everyone, if anything should happen to this interview on likenaruto, let me know. i saved every bit of the interview as pictures in my picture folder on my desktop, so let me know if you ever have trouble finding the real interview.

I read it a long time ago already. What I understood in this interview is that Kishimoto wants to let feel Naruto what it is to be a parent and to have a kid, so we can expect Naruto to be a father at the end of the manga. ^^
He also said that he likes Star Wars, and we know all that there is some link between Sasuke and Anakin, the one who tried to kill the one he loved, and that was saved by his son from the dark side.

But that doesn't matter. I just wanted to be a little objective. I know I am on a NaruSaku forum, and I'm a NaruSaku fan myself... but I can't agree with people who says that Sasuke doesn't care about Sakura. Anyway...
I will not talk anymore about Sasuke & Sakura, because this is not the subject at all. We only talk about Sakura and Naruto here... ^^
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about interviews @ i dont agree 100% because he said a lot of things and some of them did not get confirmed like (year of the kakashi, and shikamaru being a confident to naruto in other words "best friend") .

This doesn't mean that it won't happen. Kakashi will have his part after Uchiha brother VS Kabuto part.
He will probably write about his past and the secret of his Mangekyou Sharingan, thing that he promised in Fanbook. (he talked about Karin, what she did to Sasuke in the past too, that he will reveal that later)


Man... road to ninja really is interesting. Naruto and Sakura seem to be the heroes of the movie, with Tobi as the main vilain.
And the most interesting part is that it is wrote by Kishimoto himself. I think we can expect a lot of NaruSaku moments.

Hope that someone will see the movie in Japan and spoil us if there is something positive about NaruSaku. ^^

For the manga, I think that there will be a NaruSaku moment soon enough. Sakura said recently that she will not listen anymore to Naruto, and that she will protect him and be with him.
I always said tha Sakura has unconsious feelings for Naruto, and that she will realise the meaning of those feelings at the end of the manga.
Maybe we will have a similar scene like the one we saw in the OVA NARUTO X Uniqlo... happy.gif

Edited by Sojobo, 18 May 2012 - 10:02 PM.


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Posted 18 May 2012 - 11:29 PM

um, you kind of misunderstood. this quoting thing is a little complicated for me to figure out so the bolded text above was me trying to quote someone. if anything , i agree with you. i'm just saying with the yin yang thing, doesn't that mean since naruto loves sakura, sasuke can't since he's the opposite? and also, what i was trying to explain to the quoted person is that that whole non accurate interview thing has nothing to do what i was talking about since this interview is a legit one you have to pay for to read( which likenaruto is illegally showing)

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Posted 19 May 2012 - 12:00 AM

QUOTE (redragon88 @ May 18 2012, 09:30 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
In Sasuke's defense (I can't believe I'm actually writing those words laugh.gif ) Sakura was attempting to assassinate him those two times. If I was an Sasuke's place and current state of mind I would respond the exact same way. Sasuke wasn't about to take the risk of Sakura catching him by surprise like she did the second time, so he took advantage of her hesitation to kill her.



She did not know what to do at first time, because she left behind her allies and u dont need to be smart that sakura does not stand a chance against sasuke.
2-> idk what she intended to do there cuz she was confused she wanted to go with him but at same time she doesnt( she was like to choose between naruto and sasuke), when sasuke demanded that sakura need to kill karin to "go with him", she could not do this cuz despite "loving him" she was not a murder( when i see this we could see that her love for sasuke had a limit she wasnt that fangirl that would do everything for him) then she started thinking about killing him for good when she get that kunai sasuke come from behind and tried to kill her,
later she wanted to kill sasuke because she did not allowed kakshi to carry this burden alone, she was crying because sasuke was not that guy she loved when she was 12yr, she hesitated to kill him because she still had feeling for him , again sasuke tried to kill her with no hesitation, then comes naruto and save her ass.

about interviews@ -> all of them were official and still some of them did not get confirmed.
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Edited by dovahkiin, 19 May 2012 - 12:02 AM.

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Posted 19 May 2012 - 12:52 AM

QUOTE (dovahkiin @ May 19 2012, 01:00 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
She did not know what to do at first time, because she left behind her allies and u dont need to be smart that sakura does not stand a chance against sasuke.
2-> idk what she intended to do there cuz she was confused she wanted to go with him but at same time she doesnt( she was like to choose between naruto and sasuke), when sasuke demanded that sakura need to kill karin to "go with him", she could not do this cuz despite "loving him" she was not a murder( when i see this we could see that her love for sasuke had a limit she wasnt that fangirl that would do everything for him) then she started thinking about killing him for good when she get that kunai sasuke come from behind and tried to kill her,
later she wanted to kill sasuke because she did not allowed kakshi to carry this burden alone, she was crying because sasuke was not that guy she loved when she was 12yr, she hesitated to kill him because she still had feeling for him , again sasuke tried to kill her with no hesitation, then comes naruto and save her ass.

about interviews@ -> all of them were official and still some of them did not get confirmed.
JUMP FEST.

i know that but this interview is confirmed, it's kind of obvious it is when you have to pay for it. i mean it is shonen jump alpha for crying out loud, the new online version of shonen jump magazine in amercia and canada. what makes it fake? shonen jump alpha is not a forum or anything like that if that is what you're thinking. shonen jump alpha makes it to where the only way to comment on pages or even look at them period is to pay and subscribe and be a member( you have to pay and subscribe to do everything pretty much, even becoming a member). i think you are getting things mixed up, this is an official english translation not translated raw like you're thinking. and i know this since i'm subscribed and a member. and why are you still talking about sakura and sasuke? this is a narusaku debate thread, not a sasuke sakura relationship thread. we're only supposed to be talking about narusaku stuff here mainly......

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Posted 19 May 2012 - 12:56 AM

the other's were official interviews too and some of the things that he said were not confirmed so..
it implies that he can say can be true or not that why i cant take it seriously like 100%.
2-> u pay the magazine (mangas and etc) not the interview.
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Posted 19 May 2012 - 01:20 AM

QUOTE (dovahkiin @ May 19 2012, 01:56 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
the other's were official interviews too and some of the things that he said were not confirmed so..
it implies that he can say can be true or not that why i cant take it seriously like 100%.
2-> u pay the magazine (mangas and etc) not the interview.

but you have to be subscribed to view the interview at all, which is what i'm trying to say. likenaruto just printscreened it. most interviews we see we wait to be translated. not this one, it was in the magazine website and not from a scanalation site. that's my point.

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Posted 19 May 2012 - 02:50 AM

Speaking of that Jump Alpha interview, did anyone notice that he said a recent favorite movie of his was "How to train your dragon"? I only mention it because part of the movie dwells on how the main guy had a crush on the main girl while she didn't think too highly of him at the start, sound familiar? And as the story develops the girl gets to know him a little better and slowly begins to like him, sound familiar? biggrin.gif

I know it's a big stretch of thought, but who know? Maybe Kishi has a certain preference when it comes to romantic development.

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Posted 19 May 2012 - 12:59 PM

just noticed how sasuke and naruto are different. naruto is good with a bit of evil inside him (kyubii) while sasuke is evil with a bit of good inside him. about sakura sasuke got her to love him for the wrong reasons ( beauty, fame and that kitten) and she might has fallen in love with naruto for the good reasons ( his persona, being there for her etc)
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Posted 19 May 2012 - 02:24 PM

QUOTE (ichaichamaster @ May 19 2012, 08:59 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
just noticed how sasuke and naruto are different. naruto is good with a bit of evil inside him (kyubii) while sasuke is evil with a bit of good inside him. about sakura sasuke got her to love him for the wrong reasons ( beauty, fame and that kitten) and she might has fallen in love with naruto for the good reasons ( his persona, being there for her etc)


And that is what I hate the most about this Manga, Kishi could make Sakura a likeable character a long time ago only by switching love interest, there are so many reasons to fall in love with Naruto and fall out of love with Sasuke, it makes me wonder all the times, how in the hell Kishi will make the relationship between Naruto and Sakura in the end?

Right now what I am really hoping for? Is for the 1st thing that came out of Sakura's mouth is, I'm sorry Naruto face to face and then they can try to work things out.

I really believe Sakura has strong romantic feelings for Naruto but maybe following event having a strong effect on Naruto: the bench scene, her fangirling over Sasuke, her request in the poal(promise of a lifetime), her reaction after the mission failed, the way she was looking at Sasuke in the first reunion, the sad expression she gave when Inari ask them for Sasuke, her behavior when the Kiri ninjas were insulting Sasuke and her confession those are things that will break anyones inspiration to keep loving and hoping that the girl will one day love him back. Like I said before I really believe Sakura has strong romantic feelings for Naruto, but Naruto believes that?

So Sakura really need to move or she will lose Naruto.

Edited by donjoseph19, 19 May 2012 - 02:31 PM.


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Posted 19 May 2012 - 02:27 PM

QUOTE (donjoseph19 @ May 19 2012, 08:24 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
And that is what I hate the most about this Manga, Kishi could make Sakura a likeable character a long time ago only by switching love interest, there are so many reasons to fall in love with Naruto and fall out of love with Sasuke, it makes me wonder all the times, how in the hell Kishi will make the relationship between Naruto and Sakura in the end?

Right now what I am really hoping for? Is for the 1st thing that came out of Sakura's mouth is I'm sorry Naruto face to face and then they can try to work things out.

I really believe Sakura of strong romantic feelings for Naruto but maybe following event having a strong effect on Naruto: the bench scene, her fangirling over Sasuke, her request in the poal(promise of a lifetime), her reaction after the mission failded, the way she was looking at Sasuke in the first reunion, the sad expression she gave when Inari ask them for Sasuke, her behavior when the Kiri ninjas were insulting Sasuke and her confession those are things that will break anyones inspiration to keep loving and hoping that the girl will one day love him back. Like I said before I really believe Sakura has strong romantic feelings for Naruto, but Naruto believes that?

So Sakura really need to move or she will lose Naruto.



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Posted 19 May 2012 - 04:26 PM

Naruto may not currently believe Sakura is truly in love with him that way right now, but he's not THAT dense. He can see that Sakura was actually willing to kill Sasuke after she broke off the POAL and confessed to him. He knows something has changed about her.

He still might feel that Sakura is in love with Sasuke, but maybe he does have an idea -or hope- that Sakura has come to love him just the same. But being Naruto and all, he thinks that Sakura probably loves Sasuke way more than himself, and being Naruto, he's going to do what he can to make Sakura happy like he feels she should be. And he feels that she would be happiest with Sasuke at her side like she wanted so badly all that time ago.

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Posted 19 May 2012 - 07:44 PM

I am saddened by the fact that the Sakura hate so prevalent on other forums has seemingly made its way here as well. I have read the manga backwards and forwards and I don't see the issues raised here.

Sakura is a realistic and yes, likable character


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Posted 19 May 2012 - 07:49 PM

QUOTE (Verilance @ May 19 2012, 11:44 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I am saddened by the fact that the Sakura hate so prevalent on other forums has seemingly made its way here as well. I have read the manga backwards and forwards and I don't see the issues raised here.

Sakura is a realistic and yes, likable character


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Posted 19 May 2012 - 08:14 PM

QUOTE (Verilance @ May 19 2012, 07:44 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I am saddened by the fact that the Sakura hate so prevalent on other forums has seemingly made its way here as well. I have read the manga backwards and forwards and I don't see the issues raised here.

Sakura is a realistic and yes, likable character


she is hated because of her undying love for sasuke and it sometimes is annoying and some of her "imature" decisions and she is a very indecisive sometimes
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