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[TouKen4Life3g]

The mocking attitude is something I hate the most among fandom and to be quiet frankly no one behaves more immature than the Hinata fan boys and NH fans. No all of them but many of them.

Yeah. Well I do apologize for getting heated up.

[Gravenimage]

Let's stay on topic and prevent from going to fandom or character bashing.

[Don-kun]

Let's stay on topic and prevent from going to fandom or character bashing.

When dealing with any Hinata related fandom, trust me that's really hard.

[Sakamaki Izayoi]

The mocking attitude is something I hate the most among fandom and to be quiet frankly no one behaves more immature than the Hinata fan boys and NH fans. No all of them but many of them.

The "deal with it" in the middle of the image proves your point though.

[Gravenimage]

When dealing with any Hinata related fandom, trust me that's really hard.

I know but we still have to follow the forum rules.

[MangaReader]

They forgot the last part Sakura didnt get knocked out so it's not similar.
Sakura > Hinata.

Can't forgot that Sakura actually successfully fought back for sometime too

[Toasty Warrior]

Sorry for posting that guys, but I thought it was an interesting find I found on tumblr.

[coolcatjas]

Head desks self:

Take a look at this guys:



The NaruHina fans are trying to say the film ripped off this scene from the manga now...

if anything, it shows how Sakura is the better heroine.

Sakura went to help Naruto with the goal to defend Naruto and distract Tobi long enough for Naruto to get back up on his feet.
Hinata practically went on a selfish suicide mission just to confess her love to Naruto even though she knew she couldn't stand a chance against Pain

Sakura stood fighting the enemy and managed to take a hit without being K'Oed
Hinata tried to fight but was KOed almost immediately

Sakura managed to stop the Kyuubi from being extracted
Hinata almost managed to bring the Kyuubi out, thus could have killed Naruto and endanger everyone near by.

Sakura got a positive moment with Naruto; rescue scene
Hinata made Naruto feel guilty

[TouKen4Life3g]

if anything, it shows how Sakura is the better heroine.

Sakura went to help Naruto with the goal to defend Naruto and distract Tobi long enough for Naruto to get back up on his feet.
Hinata practically went on a selfish suicide mission just to confess her love to Naruto even though she knew she couldn't stand a chance against Pain

Sakura stood fighting the enemy and managed to take a hit without being K'Oed
Hinata tried to fight but was KOed almost immediately

Sakura managed to stop the Kyuubi from being extracted
Hinata almost managed to bring the Kyuubi out, thus could have killed Naruto and endanger everyone near by.

Sakura got a positive moment with Naruto; rescue scene
Hinata made Naruto feel guilty

So in other words, this argument got backfired really horribly. Yeah. You know, I remember long time ago, people thought Naruto was going to give the flowers that Konan gave him to Hinata. That was the prediction. I'm not kidding. I said, "Perhaps." Then next chapter.....yeah....

Anyway, where's that Taka Fansubs? I'm about to download the movie from elsewhere and see it on the Xbox.

[soraandven]

if anything, it shows how Sakura is the better heroine.

Sakura went to help Naruto with the goal to defend Naruto and distract Tobi long enough for Naruto to get back up on his feet.
Hinata practically went on a selfish suicide mission just to confess her love to Naruto even though she knew she couldn't stand a chance against Pain

Sakura stood fighting the enemy and managed to take a hit without being K'Oed
Hinata tried to fight but was KOed almost immediately

Sakura managed to stop the Kyuubi from being extracted
Hinata almost managed to bring the Kyuubi out, thus could have killed Naruto and endanger everyone near by.

Sakura got a positive moment with Naruto; rescue scene
Hinata made Naruto feel guilty

agreed on all points

[Qia]

Sakura went to help Naruto with the goal to defend Naruto and distract Tobi long enough for Naruto to get back up on his feet.
Hinata practically went on a selfish suicide mission just to confess her love to Naruto even though she knew she couldn't stand a chance against Pain

Sakura managed to stop the Kyuubi from being extracted
Hinata almost managed to bring the Kyuubi out, thus could have killed Naruto and endanger everyone near by.

In defense of Hinata a little, I believe what she did during the Pein Arc was, in her own way, showing how much she's willing to try and protect Naruto even if the odds are against her. It wasn't only to confess, although I do wish she wouldn't have chosen to confess THEN. . It just wasn't an appopriate time, especially if she knew she might die. Naruto would have had to live with that forever, so that part I see as selfish.

Actually Hinata DID manage to bring the kyuubi out (of course...not with all of its tails. But, in a way, since Naruto had no control then it wouldn't be him causing all of the destruction). HOWEVER, I'm pretty sure she wouldn't have expected that to happen, considering she wouldn't have had any knowledge of Naruto's seal weakening and, thus, easily losing control of Kurama when enraged. Therefore, I don't think it's fair to blame her completely for this.

Edited by Qia, 21 May 2013 - 06:17 PM.

[Sakamaki Izayoi]

In defense of Hinata a little, I believe what she did during the Pein Arc was, in her own way, showing how much she's willing to try and protect Naruto even if the odds are against her. It wasn't only to confess, although I do wish she wouldn't have chosen to confess THEN. . It just wasn't an appopriate time, especially if she knew she might die. Naruto would have had to live with that forever, so that part I see as selfish.

Actually Hinata DID manage to bring the kyuubi out (of course...not with all of its tails. But, in a way, since Naruto had no control then it wouldn't be him causing all of the destruction). HOWEVER, I'm pretty sure she wouldn't have expected that to happen, considering she wouldn't have had any knowledge of Naruto's seal weakening and, thus, easily losing control of Kurama when enraged. Therefore, I don't think it's fair to blame her completely for this.

Not at all, the reason she was selfish is because Naruto asked why she was there when he said that no one should interfere then she replies "because i love you".
It's selfish because she didnt jumped there because Naruto was a friend or she cares too much about him but just because she loves him, because of herself this is the difference.
it's the same thing when Sakura on a desperate move said to Sasuke that she wanted to go with him on part 1 during her confession or recnetly when she knew she could not kill Sasuke but went in there alone on the same way, both cases would only bring pain to Naruto due to selfish love.

Edited by Dαrkrєrsŧ, 21 May 2013 - 06:52 PM.

[Qia]

Not at all, the reason she was selfish is because Naruto asked why she was there when he said that no one should interfere then she replies "because i love you".
It's selfish because she didnt jumped there because Naruto was a friend or she cares too much about him but just because she loves him, because of herself this is the difference.
it's the same thing when Sakura on a desperate move said to Sasuke that she wanted to go with him on part 1 during her confession or recnetly when she knew she could not kill Sasuke but went in there alone on the same way, both cases would only bring pain to Naruto due to selfish love.

So basically you're saying her reasoning behind jumping in was selfish? But wouldn't you say that if she hadn't have had to explain herself, saying that she loved him and was being selfish, then her act wouldn't have looked as selfish as it did? And that, really, it all comes down to the fact that she chose to confess in that situation?

Edited by Qia, 21 May 2013 - 09:05 PM.

[TouKen4Life3g]

My main problem is why not take out those rods. Even anime has to make logic correct. That's sad if you ask me. Oh well, what's done is done. I would say this. The result from RtN is much rewarding than Hinata got, well if you don't include 559. Even then, one would hope for fanservice, which in the movie, it's the bridal save with smiles from each other. I swear these two can make so many fanfiction, even a standalone would look great.

[Sakamaki Izayoi]

So basically you're saying her reasoning behind jumping in was selfish? But wouldn't you say that if she hadn't have had to explain herself, saying that she loved him and was being selfish, then her act wouldn't have looked as selfish as it did? And that, really, it all comes down to the fact that she chose to confess in that situation?

She jumped because she loved him, i dont see Naruto as an example jumping to protect Sakura as he did on the war arc because he loved her, i didnt see him saving her two times because he loved her, Hinata jumped there because she loved him not because of friendship or bonds or whatever everyone knew that they should not interfere no matter what but she chose to go in there and her excuse was the fact that she loved him, she was selfish, her actions were selfish since she knew she didnt stand a chance and didnt even tried to remove that bars from Naruto she just jumped in there and confessed her love.
She was selfish the same way that Sakura was selfish when she went there to kill Sasuke alone despite knowing she wasnt capable of killing him, her death was certain just like Hinata's but the difference is that Hinata got a "Disney" death.

Edited by Dαrkrєrsŧ, 21 May 2013 - 11:14 PM.

[Qia]

She jumped because she loved him, i dont see Naruto as an example jumping to protect Sakura as he did on the war arc because he loved her, i didnt see him saving her two times because he loved her, Hinata jumped there because she loved him not because of friendship or bonds or whatever everyone knew that they should not interfere no matter what but she chose to go in there and her excuse was the fact that she loved him, she was selfish, her actions were selfish since she knew she didnt stand a chance and didnt even tried to remove that bars from Naruto she just jumped in there and confessed her love.
She was selfish the same way that Sakura was selfish when she went there to kill Sasuke alone despite knowing she wasnt capable of killing him, her death was certain just like Hinata's but the difference is that Hinata got a "Disney" death.

So she jumped because she loves him....hmm...still don't see how her loving him and wanting to protect him because of that love is selfish. . Even with the examples you give, Naruto wanting Sakura to be safe still sort of connects with this concept of love though because, in order to share a bond, there must be love somewhere there, even if it's not romantic. The rest of your argument I agree with (her not removing the rods and just going up against Pein like that. And, to make matters worse, confessing knowing that she would probably be killed). Hinata wasn't, however, thinking of herself as you say. She clearly states that she just wanted to save the smile that saved her in her childhood. If she was truly thinking of herself, then she would have lost her courage right then and there and abandoned Naruto. Yes, she could have done the saving in a better way and not confessed (which made her action selfish), but it doesn't make sense to say that she was only thinking of herself when she ran to Naruto to face pein.

Edited by Qia, 21 May 2013 - 11:49 PM.

[Beastbomb]

She jumped because she loved him, i dont see Naruto as an example jumping to protect Sakura as he did on the war arc because he loved her, i didnt see him saving her two times because he loved her, Hinata jumped there because she loved him not because of friendship or bonds or whatever everyone knew that they should not interfere no matter what but she chose to go in there and her excuse was the fact that she loved him, she was selfish, her actions were selfish since she knew she didnt stand a chance and didnt even tried to remove that bars from Naruto she just jumped in there and confessed her love.
She was selfish the same way that Sakura was selfish when she went there to kill Sasuke alone despite knowing she wasnt capable of killing him, her death was certain just like Hinata's but the difference is that Hinata got a "Disney" death.

I think your going a little overboard with this. I don't judge her for trying to (somewhat) protect Naruto because she loves him. My problem is that she confesses to Naruto and rushes to attack Pein without even thinking about how this helps Naruto in this situation. Pein is a guy that Naruto has difficulty handling and yet she charges him without even considering her actions. She doesn't even stand a chance in this fight. Yet, the whole time she leaves Naruto pinned to the ground with metal bars going through his body. In the end, the manga makes it look like she jumped down there to confess her love to Naruto before she lost her chance to do so and was willing to die because she lost her faith in Naruto (again) and thought he was going to die. That's why I find her confession to be selfish. She only considered her love instead of caring about Naruto's well-being and how to protect the village by defeating Pein.

[StriderC]

Head desks self:

Take a look at this guys:



The NaruHina fans are trying to say the film ripped off this scene from the manga now...

LMAO! Well, that kick has nothing to do with Hinata. That's Tsunade's signature... As for the explosion, are they serious? And also, Pierrot downplayed her attack. That crater should of been a lot bigger. In one movie, she's making fissures in the ground but on this one, her kick doesn't do much. I guess they feel that deep down, Kishi was showcasing NH... Stupidest crap ever. Why didn't Hinata fill this little role then?

[soraandven]

atleast she was able to fight back thats alot more then what i can say about hinata

[Gravenimage]

atleast she was able to fight back thats alot more then what i can say about hinata

She didn't fought back she tried to attack Pain and he sent her packing with shinra tensei. Please ignore the anime version where she fought him, tried to break Naruto free and she was able to take 5 shinra tensei when Jiraiya and Kakashi only took one for them to get killed.

Edited by Gravenimage, 22 May 2013 - 02:17 AM.