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Posted 12 January 2013 - 06:44 PM

QUOTE (Dαrkrєrsŧ @ Jan 12 2013, 07:34 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I think before Sasuke, Sakura has to get rid of her problems with her bad view about herself, and Naruto stating once again that he loves her.
Before Sasuke is saved because i doubt that Sasuke will stay on the village., after he back to team taka.
I mean Sasuke has his own comrades.
It's just a matter of changing Sasuke to stop his revenge desires.

The last time Sakura demonstrated her problems was in the Kage summit. I think she already made up her mind in 573, and that she's done with that. Sakura must now close her heart from Sasuke, only then can se be able to confront him.

It's weird that NH fans think their pairing is canon when he hasn't made it clear that he doesn't love Sakura anymore. The point is, before these characters can declare their love to one person, they have to come to the conclusion that they don't love anyone else first.

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Posted 12 January 2013 - 06:47 PM

QUOTE (Dαrkrєrsŧ @ Jan 12 2013, 10:34 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I think before Sasuke, Sakura has to get rid of her problems with her bad view about herself, and Naruto stating once again that he loves her.
Before Sasuke is saved because i doubt that Sasuke will stay on the village., after he back to team taka.
I mean Sasuke has his own comrades.
It's just a matter of changing Sasuke to stop his revenge desires.

Sasuke has to come to the realization that revenge isn't the answer. From there he is free to live his life as he desires. At that point if he wanted to return to Konoha he would be able to.

One could argue that Sasuke will never be forgiven for what he's done but given everything Naruto has done he could simply ask for a favor. Not only that but any sensible person would know that it's not what you've done that defines you but what kind of person it has made you.

Sasuke being saved and returning to the leaf village is still entirely possible, it just requires you to have faith that the leaders of the shinobi countries aren't idiots.

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Posted 12 January 2013 - 06:57 PM

QUOTE (Branden @ Jan 12 2013, 03:47 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Sasuke has to come to the realization that revenge isn't the answer. From there he is free to live his life as he desires. At that point if he wanted to return to Konoha he would be able to.

One could argue that Sasuke will never be forgiven for what he's done but given everything Naruto has done he could simply ask for a favor. Not only that but any sensible person would know that it's not what you've done that defines you but what kind of person it has made you.

Sasuke being saved and returning to the leaf village is still entirely possible, it just requires you to have faith that the leaders of the shinobi countries aren't idiots.

He already got this, that's why he said "i'm not focused on the revenge itself" because if it was he would be the trashiest last villain of all the battle shounens, kishi already give a hint that he's going to pursue the same objectives as Obito, Naruto has to learn something from this if he should be able to counter Sasuke arguments, per example "Sakura dying" he would understand Obito, or most of all 90% of the k11 characters dying and kakashi along, Naruto losing everything, and failing at every turn to protect his friends then Obito uses his rinne tensei and ressurrects everyone.

About returning to konoha i said that he wont return to team 7 and start the old days again, because of the team taka.

About 573 her statement is the same as she did thoughout all Naruto series, even on the hospital scene at the ending of part 1, reunition with Sasuke is the same, i'm saying is her problem of her thinking that she is useless and now i dont see anything that prove that she resolved it "off panel" which would be ridiculous and bad writing.
573 showed that Naruto inspired her to fight alongside him, that she wants to do something for him.

Edited by Dαrkrєrsŧ, 12 January 2013 - 07:02 PM.

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Posted 12 January 2013 - 07:11 PM

QUOTE (Dαrkrєrsŧ @ Jan 12 2013, 07:34 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I think before Sasuke, Sakura has to get rid of her problems with her bad view about herself, and Naruto stating once again that he loves her.
Before Sasuke is saved because i doubt that Sasuke will stay on the village., after he back to team taka.
I mean Sasuke has his own comrades.
It's just a matter of changing Sasuke to stop his revenge desires.



That's a interesting thought...I haven't really thought much about his comrades that he choose for a while since we haven't seen them in a while...but when you say it like that...I can't help but think...maybe that's why kishi made those characters in the first place...so that Sasuke ( when redeemed) can go peaceful off with this own team...since after everything he has done...I can't see Konoha letting him stay in the village. headscratch.gif

It would be sad for Naruto and Sakura and Kakashi....but I think that's one of the only ways I can see it being played out that actally makes sense... a_shifty.gif

anyway, I like your post! it gave me something to think about... a_plotting.gif

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Posted 12 January 2013 - 07:18 PM

QUOTE (KeikoxYusuke @ Jan 12 2013, 08:11 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
That's a interesting thought...I haven't really thought much about his comrades that he choose for a while since we haven't seen them in a while...but when you say it like that...I can't help but think...maybe that's why kishi made those characters in the first place...so that Sasuke ( when redeemed) can go peaceful off with this own team...since after everything he has done...I can't see Konoha letting him stay in the village. headscratch.gif

It would be sad for Naruto and Sakura and Kakashi....but I think that's one of the only ways I can see it being played out that actally makes sense... a_shifty.gif

anyway, I like your post! it gave me something to think about... a_plotting.gif

I had some ff ideas(and predictions) that Sasuke would be banished for some years. Then he will be able to return, but chooses not to. He may visit Konoha once in a while though, especially once Naruto is Hokage. I can imagine him telling Naruto "Now that you're the Hokage, I can finally trust Konoha to some extent again." He could be Naruto's secret spy and protect the village from the outside, but at the same time be able to travel with Taka and find out where he belongs in the world.

Edited by sushi., 12 January 2013 - 07:18 PM.

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Posted 12 January 2013 - 07:22 PM

When i look at team taka.
All of them share something in common along with Sasuke.

Everyone has no place to return, they are real satellite characters and orbitate towards Sasuke, it's like Sasuke is their place to return.
There's only two options to those guys, or they die and if they die it will be Sasuke's fault and will seal Sasuke's destiny that he will die too even being redeemed, or he gets redeemed and still with those guys, after learning the truth Konoha is not a "Home" for Sasuke but what lies inside there is, Naruto,Kakashi,Sakura and the others are his friends, it's more possible that he will not come back to Konoha but will be friendly.
And team 7 will be no more since Naruto will be hokage, and it's likely that Sakura will become his first assistant or the real hokage because i doubt that Naruto has administrative skills. smile.gif

Juugo : who says that Sasuke is the only one who can control him.
Suigetsu : who stick along with Sasuke.
Karin : well she's a criminal along with Sasuke.

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Posted 12 January 2013 - 07:38 PM

That's the thing about Sasuke. He has a new team and at first, I thought it was a one time deal with them, but they're still alive and doesn't seem to hint that they will die just yet. I would have never considered them to live, but after Killed Bee and betrayals, I'm starting to think that these guys are meant to stay. Killer Bee's battle does seem to foreshadow that Sasuke will share his admiration from Team 7 to them. The problem is that Sasuke is in "I don't care for anyone" mode. That battle shows that he does care as well as his team. It's just that his head is in wrong place and betraying Karin proves it. In fact, leaving Suigetsu and Juugo proves it as well, especially when Karin was shocked to hear Sasuke saying to leave them behind. I feel that Team Taka does feel home with each other, but not yet acknowledging each other since some of them seems to deny it, especially Suigetsu.

I don't think Team 7 will be all sad, rather be happy that not only Sasuke is good but he too has friends to be with. I think the best way to redeem him is not only make him good but acknowledge that he will always be a Team 7 family member. When Sasuke talked to Naruto, I remember Sasuke said that he's an ex-member. To me, if he does acknowledge Team 7 as important part of his life, then he's really "saved". It's like they say, "People truly dies if they're forgotten." Sasuke already made the world against him, but Team 7 is the only one left that still cares for him as family. You can say Konoha is the only one but the point is that he needs to acknowledge this before stepping into the good side. Give or take.

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Posted 12 January 2013 - 08:19 PM

As much as I want Sasuke to return back to Konoha, I, too, think that Sasuke will probably be redeemed but not going back to Konoha. He would travel alongside Karin, Juugo and Suigetsu.
Even if Karin, Juugo and Suigetsu die, he'll travel alone like a wanderer. Plus, I think that would be his choice to not go back to Konoha when he's redeemed.


Edited by T XD, 12 January 2013 - 08:21 PM.


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Posted 12 January 2013 - 09:15 PM

QUOTE (T XD @ Jan 12 2013, 03:19 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
As much as I want Sasuke to return back to Konoha, I, too, think that Sasuke will probably be redeemed but not going back to Konoha. He would travel alongside Karin, Juugo and Suigetsu.
Even if Karin, Juugo and Suigetsu die, he'll travel alone like a wanderer. Plus, I think that would be his choice to not go back to Konoha when he's redeemed.

That and I really don't think the world will accept him back, so the best logical thing is him to be a wanderer. Much like in Fairy Tail, where Jellal (however you spell it nowadays) became good but he's always wanted for crimes he had commit. The damage is done and the world must accept you but that's not likely at all, especially if Sasuke does something that terrorizes the world, which I wil bet on it. Remember, there's always more than one way that is consider "saving" Sasuke.

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Posted 13 January 2013 - 01:44 AM

Now I am re-reading the manga, for the analysis, and when Sakura cut her hair, Naruto quickly went "Sakura-chan, your hair!" and she goes "Oh, this... I cut it, you know, in the forest can get a bit in the day"... and on Ino's and Sasuke's bubbles it's the (...)
What is your interpretation about it guys?
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My guess is that, she didn't want to make him worry, as Naruto could've went a bit over-board with everything and go nuts, worrying for nothing.
But I was curious to see other opinions.

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Posted 13 January 2013 - 01:49 AM

I noticed that as well, I read the manga a while ago. Because she doesn't want him to worry, she stays strong for him. NS is a positive bond. Now what if Sasuke was the one who asked? I feel like she would pity herself and flirt with him because he showed a tiny sign of compassion, but I might just be overthinking it.

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Posted 13 January 2013 - 01:55 AM

QUOTE (sushi. @ Jan 13 2013, 02:49 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I noticed that as well, I read the manga a while ago. Because she doesn't want him to worry, she stays strong for him. NS is a positive bond. Now what if Sasuke was the one who asked? I feel like she would pity herself and flirt with him because he showed a tiny sign of compassion, but I might just be overthinking it.

Hmm, in that circumstance I honestly doubt she would've flirted. She had the occasion yet she didn't. I like that part with staying strong? Mind if I use the idea in the analysis? biggrin.gif
Thanks! ^^

LE: Oh, and other thing that I noticed... Ino saying that Sakura is hiding her feelings again, when Naruto asks why they were there and Sakura says that everyone came to save them, not taking any of the credits for the battle. God, that's so sweet! And as well, selfless and admirable. She was just about to die for them.

Edited by Chatte, 13 January 2013 - 01:59 AM.

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Posted 13 January 2013 - 02:00 AM

QUOTE (Chatte @ Jan 13 2013, 02:55 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Hmm, in that circumstance I honestly doubt she would've flirted. She had the occasion yet she didn't. I like that part with staying strong? Mind if I use the idea in the analysis? biggrin.gif
Thanks! ^^

omg just realized you're right, maybe it's because she turned a 180 there. She then decided she she wouldn't be useless anymore, if so I can't imagine anything. tongue.gif

Yeah, you can. That's a nice compliment, thank you very much. I'd like to note that both Naruto and Sakura stay strong for eachother, sometimes they even keep secrets from eachother to keep one another safe. That can be a fault and a blessing.

Oh, about your edit, I've noticed that too. Whenever Sakura does something nice for Naruto, he's either unconscious or not present.

Edited by sushi., 13 January 2013 - 02:02 AM.

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Posted 13 January 2013 - 02:06 AM

QUOTE (sushi. @ Jan 13 2013, 02:00 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
omg just realized you're right, maybe it's because she turned a 180 there. She then decided she she wouldn't be useless anymore, if so I can't imagine anything. tongue.gif

Yeah, you can. That's a nice compliment, thank you very much. I'd like to note that both Naruto and Sakura stay strong for eachother, sometimes they even keep secrets from eachother to keep one another safe. That can be a fault and a blessing.

Thank you! Yeah, it was in the Forest of Death situation. That's where I got with the analysis and I am barely finishing the battle with the sound nin. biggrin.gif
I want to quickly finish it so I can go further, heh.
That Arc was quite important for Sakura and I am trying my best to explain her character, her development and meaning there, heh. happy.gif

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Posted 13 January 2013 - 02:23 AM

about her hair, I've always thought she hid downplayed it (in general) because she realized that it didn't matter to her anymore. Her hair and looks was instantly less important that staying alive to protect her friends. So I don't think she's just being coy (although I'm sure she must know that Naruto would make a huge deal about it) but she also wants to put it behind her and not look back.

And Ino saying that Sakura always buries her true feelings.... I can totally see this as something that comes back in the end. Especially if Sakura thinks that Naruto has feelings for Hinata. You know she would smile and hide her true feelings and step aside. So maybe it will be Ino that breaks the ice next time instead of Sai? laugh.gif

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Posted 13 January 2013 - 02:31 AM

QUOTE (tricksie @ Jan 13 2013, 02:23 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
about her hair, I've always thought she hid downplayed it (in general) because she realized that it didn't matter to her anymore. Her hair and looks was instantly less important that staying alive to protect her friends. So I don't think she's just being coy (although I'm sure she must know that Naruto would make a huge deal about it) but she also wants to put it behind her and not look back.

And Ino saying that Sakura always buries her true feelings.... I can totally see this as something that comes back in the end. Especially if Sakura thinks that Naruto has feelings for Hinata. You know she would smile and hide her true feelings and step aside. So maybe it will be Ino that breaks the ice next time instead of Sai? laugh.gif

Now that I thought about it, you're so right about this! I totally see Sakura stepping back because I am sure she considers that Hinata deserves Naruto more than her and would step back.
And it would actually be nice to see Ino being the one breaking the ice...
What I find admirable for back then, is that she took ZERO credit for that, when she was about to lose her life...
LE: In the end, I see Ino being somewhat involved because in the end she is the one that knows Sakura best and considering they were both rivals for Sasuke's attention, I believe Ino would understand best and would be like a deciding factor that would have a weight in what she says.

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Posted 13 January 2013 - 03:28 AM

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Posted 13 January 2013 - 03:35 AM

QUOTE (Tsubaki @ Jan 13 2013, 04:28 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Is that true?? sad.gif

http://jackoffjill21...se-naruto-fanom

there's no source in there so I came to ask it here!


No, actually, NaruSaku was above NaruHina... it had 88000 something like this. NaruHina had like half of NaruSaku's popularity.
Indeed, SasuSaku was the most popular one.
However, this is oooooold!

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Posted 13 January 2013 - 03:35 AM

QUOTE (Tsubaki @ Jan 13 2013, 04:28 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Is that true?? sad.gif

http://jackoffjill21...se-naruto-fanom

there's no source in there so I came to ask it here!


Don't know if its true or not but it wouldn't surprise me considering how much more popular Hinata has gotten over the last few years.
If you are worried that it would influence Kishi's intentions, it won't if it had KakaIru would have been canon years ago or they would at least have spoken to each other.

Did anyone else notice both SasuNaru and NaruSasu are in the top 5?
What is the difference?

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Posted 13 January 2013 - 03:41 AM

QUOTE (Tsubaki @ Jan 13 2013, 04:28 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Is that true?? sad.gif

http://jackoffjill21...se-naruto-fanom

there's no source in there so I came to ask it here!

Uhm, there is two NaruSasu lol. Or..the other one is just called SasuNaru. And I think NejiHina is more popular, at least more than NaruHina.

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