Jump to content

Close
Photo

H&E's NaruSaku Debate Thread!


  • This topic is locked This topic is locked
19964 replies to this topic

#8321 Slextrem

Slextrem

    Jounin

  • Jounin
  • PipPipPipPip
  • 1,546 posts
  • Gender:Female
  • Location:Canada
  • Interests:I have many interests in life and reading manga happens to be one of them. My favorite pairing is definitely NaruSaku.

Posted 12 January 2013 - 06:46 AM

QUOTE (Chucky-kun @ Jan 12 2013, 12:40 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
We all know what happened the last time we got spoilers.....

Don't remind me. dry.gif
I'm just anxious to find out the fate of NaruSaku. Hopefully something better will come from the spoilers this time around. The suspense is killing me~

Edited by Slextrem, 12 January 2013 - 06:47 AM.


#8322 MakeMoneyEatRice

MakeMoneyEatRice

    Genin

  • Genin
  • PipPip
  • 139 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:London

Posted 12 January 2013 - 06:47 AM

I know this completely off topic and everything but what I really wanted to ask was, why is NaruSaku despised so much by Western Naruto fans? I don't even know anymore arg.gif
Do mind me being here...

#8323 Slextrem

Slextrem

    Jounin

  • Jounin
  • PipPipPipPip
  • 1,546 posts
  • Gender:Female
  • Location:Canada
  • Interests:I have many interests in life and reading manga happens to be one of them. My favorite pairing is definitely NaruSaku.

Posted 12 January 2013 - 07:14 AM

QUOTE (MakeMoneyEatRice @ Jan 12 2013, 12:47 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I know this completely off topic and everything but what I really wanted to ask was, why is NaruSaku despised so much by Western Naruto fans? I don't even know anymore arg.gif

While I can't say why NaruSaku isn't popular with Western fans specifically, I do think part of the general dislike for the pairing has to do with Part One Sakura. Kishimoto started off depicting her as an unlikable character, (i.e. looking down on Naruto, acting shallow, fangirling over Sasuke, etc), and so people developed a dislike for her. Despite all of the progress that her character has made since then, there are still people out there that scrutinize her for things she did at the beginning of the series; they just can't get past it. Those fans probably feel that Naruto deserves better.

Some feel that way especially because of Hinata's presence in the manga. She's the polar opposite of Sakura and has been faithfully admiring Naruto since the very beginning of the series. For fans that have a grudge against Sakura for the way she treated Naruto, Hinata looks like a much better option, I'm sure.

Of course, there are other fans out there that have acknowledged the development of Sakura's relationship with Naruto and know that she's not the same person that she was in Part One. It all comes down to a matter of preference. happy.gif

Edited by Slextrem, 12 January 2013 - 07:26 AM.


#8324 SkiesEagle

SkiesEagle

    Genin

  • Genin
  • PipPip
  • 142 posts
  • Gender:Female
  • Location:California, Fall finally started :3
  • Interests:I like drawing and reading fanfiction :P

Posted 12 January 2013 - 07:16 AM

QUOTE (MakeMoneyEatRice @ Jan 11 2013, 10:47 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I know this completely off topic and everything but what I really wanted to ask was, why is NaruSaku despised so much by Western Naruto fans? I don't even know anymore arg.gif



Not all western are hate or dislike NaruSaku.
I am from the western live in USA. I like NaruSaku to see how their relationship develop so far.
I am sadly to hear from some of you guys said that. I never know there people in the west hate and dislike NaruSaku. :/

Kweh!~
Chocobos
chocobo narusaku2

#8325 TouKen4Life3g

TouKen4Life3g

    Heaven and Earth Deity

  • Kyuubi
  • PipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 35,306 posts
  • Gender:Male

Posted 12 January 2013 - 07:21 AM

Same here. My best friend is NS person and believe the most logical sense.

#8326 Chatte

Chatte

    Heaven and Earth Deity

  • Kyuubi
  • PipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 5,755 posts
  • Gender:Female
  • Location:Romania

Posted 12 January 2013 - 07:57 AM

Well, you could say I'm western.
But the majority of the opinion comes from the US and given the fact that in the US the NH fanbase is bigger, that's the general opinion.

2d617bda57e68a9871d0769988a82b4b93870803

Still rambling about Naruto/NaruSaku stuff on

https://chatte-georgiana.com


#8327 Chucky-kun

Chucky-kun

    Elite Teacher

  • Elite Teacher
  • PipPipPip
  • 1,172 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Melbourne

Posted 12 January 2013 - 08:06 AM

QUOTE (MakeMoneyEatRice @ Jan 12 2013, 05:47 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I know this completely off topic and everything but what I really wanted to ask was, why is NaruSaku despised so much by Western Naruto fans? I don't even know anymore arg.gif

They don't understand what a tsundere is.

They believe in the underdog story (double standard)

They think girls with pink hair are silly.

They can relate more to the girl who lives in silence with her feelings going unvoiced than the loudmouth who constantly asks the girl he likes on dates.

c1a2d1a877.jpg


#8328 Chatte

Chatte

    Heaven and Earth Deity

  • Kyuubi
  • PipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 5,755 posts
  • Gender:Female
  • Location:Romania

Posted 12 January 2013 - 08:21 AM

Sometimes even if they understand what a Tsundere is and they enjoy it, meaning, having a laugh and stuff, they still hate the girl in the pairing.

2d617bda57e68a9871d0769988a82b4b93870803

Still rambling about Naruto/NaruSaku stuff on

https://chatte-georgiana.com


#8329 xxRomanceGirlxx

xxRomanceGirlxx

    Missing-nin

  • Missing Nin
  • PipPipPipPip
  • 1,815 posts
  • Gender:Female
  • Location:United States
  • Interests:Reading, Writing, Debating, Anime/Manga (Naruto, Inuyasha, DBZ, Hetalia etc.), TV shows, Shipping
    Dislikes: Bashing, Double standards, Hypocrisy, NaruHina, SasuSaku, SasuKarin
    OTPs: NaruSaku (Naruto), Bangel (BtVS), InuKag (Inuyasha), LeafpoolxCrowfeather (Warriors), Percabeth (PJS), Kataang (AtLA)

Posted 12 January 2013 - 08:22 AM

QUOTE (MakeMoneyEatRice @ Jan 12 2013, 02:47 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I know this completely off topic and everything but what I really wanted to ask was, why is NaruSaku despised so much by Western Naruto fans? I don't even know anymore arg.gif


I will never understand it's hate in the West because to me, it's absolutely adorable! wub.gif I love this pairing way too much. I can't share their sentiments but I've seen the most frequent being the following:

1). Slex nailed it. One of the most popular reasons is the incredibly tiring Hinata vs. Sakura comparisions the West frequently does. Sakura started off bad, took Naruto for granted, and easily hurts his feelings by her love for Sasuke. Instead of wanting Naruto to win her over, they believe she "doesn't deserve him". Mostly because they can't look past her Part 1 self and her love for Sasuke that hurts Naruto. Cue Hinata. The shy, sympathetic character who always liked Naruto from the beginning and she makes things easier for him. More importantly, she never hurt him like Sakura has before to Naruto in the past. So it's like "They deserve each other!" dry.gif

2). Hinata's ridiculous fanbase that worships her like the angelic goddess she apparently is and can do no wrong. Her rabid fanboys/fangirls want her happiness because they pity her or thinks she's cute. Ironically, this coincides with "I hate Sakura! Hinata deserves him!" mentalities because Sakura is a threat to NH. Therefore, the math is "Sakura= NaruHina threat, NH threat= Sakura hate."

3). I think for some SasuSaku fans they hate it because they don't want to believe that Sakura may love Naruto. So some of them are under the impression that Naruto can't make her happy relationship-wise in the long run. Her heart belongs to Sasuke and no one else in their eyes. Sasuke can make her happy. Some Sakura fans say this: "I ship SasuSaku because I want Sakura happy. She won't be with Naruto. She unconditionally loves the Uchiha for so long, she should get him!"

4). Maybe because the NaruSaku relationship bores them? I've seen it said, believe me. There is apparently no drama and angst to make it interesting enough. I'm sure many SasuSaku fans agree with that. Some SasuNaru, too.

7). The anime exaggerates Sakura's tsundereness and most people can't take it as comic relief. They don't know what a tsundere is or can't take a joke so it erupts into the "Sakura's a violent, abusive b*tch" argument

5). Just down to personal preference. Some people might not like how they look together or the kids they would have if they did become canon. They might not dig the whole "similiars attract" concept that NaruSaku has frequently proven to revolve around in strides. Naruto and Sakura are too alike in their opinion to balance each other out. That's probably why "opposites attract" couples like SasuSaku and NaruHina are more popular here in America. Some NaruHina fans can say what they like but Hinata is mostly the polar opposite of Naruto. They have very little in common with each other besides sharing the same nindo and being a failure once. Personality-wise, not exactly. The nindo part maybe but that's what Hinata just copied from him. In many media, "opposites attract" couples are usually more popular than similiar couples.

6). Sakura's ugly apparently and flat-chested. Why like NaruSaku if they don't think she looks okay? Yes, this shallow reason is included sometimes as a reason to hate NS. sleep.gif


That's all I can think of at the top of my head. Might be more but I'm pretty sure these are the general reasons.

Edited by xxRomanceGirlxx, 12 January 2013 - 08:26 AM.

"I absolutely can't let you die! I can't! I won't let you die ... your stupid dream ... now it's ... it's right in front of us!!"                                                                             ----Sakura Haruno                                                                              

                                                                                                                                                                           

                                                                        


#8330 Chatte

Chatte

    Heaven and Earth Deity

  • Kyuubi
  • PipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 5,755 posts
  • Gender:Female
  • Location:Romania

Posted 12 January 2013 - 08:26 AM

Wasn't it that similar attract but don't wear each other? Or how was it?

2d617bda57e68a9871d0769988a82b4b93870803

Still rambling about Naruto/NaruSaku stuff on

https://chatte-georgiana.com


#8331 xxRomanceGirlxx

xxRomanceGirlxx

    Missing-nin

  • Missing Nin
  • PipPipPipPip
  • 1,815 posts
  • Gender:Female
  • Location:United States
  • Interests:Reading, Writing, Debating, Anime/Manga (Naruto, Inuyasha, DBZ, Hetalia etc.), TV shows, Shipping
    Dislikes: Bashing, Double standards, Hypocrisy, NaruHina, SasuSaku, SasuKarin
    OTPs: NaruSaku (Naruto), Bangel (BtVS), InuKag (Inuyasha), LeafpoolxCrowfeather (Warriors), Percabeth (PJS), Kataang (AtLA)

Posted 12 January 2013 - 08:34 AM

QUOTE (Chatte @ Jan 12 2013, 04:26 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Wasn't it that similar attract but don't wear each other? Or how was it?


I think I faintly remember something like that. laugh.gif The best thing about similiar shippings is that they can either get along so amazingly well it's unreal or they can end up killing each other. There is no inbetweens. NaruSaku is obviously the former. happy.gif

But it's very true fact in the west. Media often supports opposites attract couples. SasuSaku, NaruHina fit easily in the "opposites attract" category. It just seems more interesting to them, I guess. More variety. I'm not like that though completely. I found I have a tendency to ship characters who have similiarities to each other, not the other way around. But I have liked a few opposite attract couples myself. smile.gif

"I absolutely can't let you die! I can't! I won't let you die ... your stupid dream ... now it's ... it's right in front of us!!"                                                                             ----Sakura Haruno                                                                              

                                                                                                                                                                           

                                                                        


#8332 redragon88

redragon88

    Legendary Ninja

  • Legendary Ninja
  • PipPipPipPipPip
  • 3,562 posts

Posted 12 January 2013 - 08:51 AM

Before I knew about pairing fandoms I was truly under the impression that every fan of Naruto was rooting for him to eventually win Sakura's heart. Although when I started paying attention to pairing fandoms it was already after the Summit arc, so maybe those events influenced the opinions of many. For all I know maybe more people where expecting Naruto and Sakura to end up together before that arc.

To me NS was extremely obvious up to the Summit arc, then my expectation were completely shaken. Karui brought Sakura's feelings for Sasuke back into the light in a way I hadn't thought about in all of part 2, not even during the first reunion in Orochimaru's lair. Then Sai tells Sakura about Naruto's feelings. I would've thought that would be a good thing, but the way it turned out seemed so sad. Then Sakura becomes determined and I wondered what she would do. Before her confession to Naruto I was imagining that something like that could happen given her new determination, but it just didn't feel like it would be right given how so many complicated feelings about Team 7 were so suddenly revived.

And then when the confession happened it did in the way I was imagining it would, based how I saw the situation so far. I'll admit that the whole development during the Summit arc is very heartbreaking. It's like Naruto and Sakura didn't know what to do with each other, and don't act in the best way the can. Sakura tries to take all of the burden from Naruto while he only becomes more anxious to the point of collapsing. Even Kakashi's resolution to kill Sasuke was sad given how he made mention that regardless of Sasuke's darkness he still loved him, just like Hiruzen still loved Orochimaru despite his defection.

It seemed that part of the purpose of the Summit arc was to show all of Team 7 at their worst possible point. You have:

- Sasuke completely immersed in his darkness to the point he's senselessly sacrificing comrades
- Kakashi and Sakura forsaking their bond with Sasuke despite how much they care and love him
- Naruto not knowing what to do with Sasuke to the point he had a mental collapse

The Summit arc turned out to be one of the most emotionally darkest arcs in Naruto. Maybe that's one of the reasons not a lot of people liked it. I guess in that aspect it was a good thing to keep Sakura's feelings for Sasuke intact so far. If she wasn't in love with Sasuke then the impact of the deconstruction of the Team 7 bond that happened during the Summit arc wouldn't be as grand.

Team 7 can grow and change, but until there's resolution with Sasuke they'll always be drawn to the old ways. In the beginning of the story we had:

- Naruto trying to reach Sasuke and wanting Sakura's love
- Sasuke trying to prove his superiority to Naruto at any chance he could
- Sakura loving Sasuke despite his indifference and slowly growing to care more for Naruto despite initial hate

Absolutely nothing has changed. Team 7 has shown incredible character growth (be it good or bad), but they still hold the same positions as it was in the beginning. And I don't think anything extremely significant will change their positions until we are finally in the final confrontation. Even if something happened in the current battle with the Juubi that could imply NS (which I'm secretly hoping for) there won't be any true resolution of their positions until the very end.

The Naruto and Sasuke bond is the most significant story wise, but the Team 7 bond and the position they hold with each other as a whole is where the whole tension lies. That's also one of the reasons I would dislike for Naruto to stop loving Sakura now. If Naruto didn't love Sakura then the Team 7 connection wouldn't be as tense in order to keep up the emotions for the finale.

The events that lead to the final fight and what happens in the aftermath is what will finally shift the positions of Team 7. And those events won't begin to take place until Sasuke shows up in this war. So for now Team 7 hold the same positions as they always have.

That could also be the reason Sakura's confession went the way it did. It might be that she consciously knows she feels something for Naruto, but that her heart feels stronger for Sasuke. It could be that she wants Naruto to be the one that makes her feel that way (which is why she confessed the way she did), but since the Team 7 conflict is not resolved her feelings for Sasuke are going to remain as they have. Naruto seems to be aware that until Team 7 can be at peace with each other that the way any of them feel won't change, which is why he rejected Sakura's confession.

Even if Naruto can accept Sakura has growing feelings for him he's not foolish enough to think she can just let go of Sasuke as the situation stands. Also, it seems that after the Summit arc that Sakura has accepted how she feels and that until everything is resolved that it will just have to be as it is, which could be the reason for that moment in chapter 540. She can be in love with Sasuke, but it doesn't mean she wants to. She just is for now.

#8333 Zatheko

Zatheko

    Special Jounin

  • Special Jounin
  • PipPipPip
  • 881 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:United States
  • Interests:Manga, Anime, Writing, MMO's, Games

Posted 12 January 2013 - 09:05 AM

QUOTE (MakeMoneyEatRice @ Jan 11 2013, 10:47 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I know this completely off topic and everything but what I really wanted to ask was, why is NaruSaku despised so much by Western Naruto fans? I don't even know anymore arg.gif


Yeah I don't really know either,I myself live in the west yet I absolutely love NaruSaku! My friends are actually split between both NS and NS I have basically an equal amount of friends who prefer NS and NH lol

#8334 redragon88

redragon88

    Legendary Ninja

  • Legendary Ninja
  • PipPipPipPipPip
  • 3,562 posts

Posted 12 January 2013 - 02:43 PM

Can people give me their opinion on that LAP that I put a couple of posts above? I'm curious about your views.

Edited by redragon88, 12 January 2013 - 02:44 PM.


#8335 Sakamaki Izayoi

Sakamaki Izayoi

    Heaven and Earth Deity

  • Kyuubi
  • PipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 7,679 posts
  • Gender:Male

Posted 12 January 2013 - 02:50 PM

QUOTE (Slextrem @ Jan 12 2013, 03:01 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
*sigh* Three more days until spoilers are released... I can't take it anymore! The wait is driving me crazy! zomg.gif


3 days lol, spoilers only are released out when it's already midnight here so even if i wanted to see i'm sleeping when i wake up the manga is already launched.
SK-303_image007.jpg

#8336 PhenixElite

PhenixElite

    Jounin

  • Jounin
  • PipPipPipPip
  • 1,725 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Austria

Posted 12 January 2013 - 02:56 PM

QUOTE (redragon88 @ Jan 12 2013, 09:51 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Before I knew about pairing fandoms I was truly under the impression that every fan of Naruto was rooting for him to eventually win Sakura's heart. Although when I started paying attention to pairing fandoms it was already after the Summit arc, so maybe those events influenced the opinions of many. For all I know maybe more people where expecting Naruto and Sakura to end up together before that arc.

To me NS was extremely obvious up to the Summit arc, then my expectation were completely shaken. Karui brought Sakura's feelings for Sasuke back into the light in a way I hadn't thought about in all of part 2, not even during the first reunion in Orochimaru's lair. Then Sai tells Sakura about Naruto's feelings. I would've thought that would be a good thing, but the way it turned out seemed so sad. Then Sakura becomes determined and I wondered what she would do. Before her confession to Naruto I was imagining that something like that could happen given her new determination, but it just didn't feel like it would be right given how so many complicated feelings about Team 7 were so suddenly revived.

And then when the confession happened it did in the way I was imagining it would, based how I saw the situation so far. I'll admit that the whole development during the Summit arc is very heartbreaking. It's like Naruto and Sakura didn't know what to do with each other, and don't act in the best way the can. Sakura tries to take all of the burden from Naruto while he only becomes more anxious to the point of collapsing. Even Kakashi's resolution to kill Sasuke was sad given how he made mention that regardless of Sasuke's darkness he still loved him, just like Hiruzen still loved Orochimaru despite his defection.

It seemed that part of the purpose of the Summit arc was to show all of Team 7 at their worst possible point. You have:

- Sasuke completely immersed in his darkness to the point he's senselessly sacrificing comrades
- Kakashi and Sakura forsaking their bond with Sasuke despite how much they care and love him
- Naruto not knowing what to do with Sasuke to the point he had a mental collapse

The Summit arc turned out to be one of the most emotionally darkest arcs in Naruto. Maybe that's one of the reasons not a lot of people liked it. I guess in that aspect it was a good thing to keep Sakura's feelings for Sasuke intact so far. If she wasn't in love with Sasuke then the impact of the deconstruction of the Team 7 bond that happened during the Summit arc wouldn't be as grand.

Team 7 can grow and change, but until there's resolution with Sasuke they'll always be drawn to the old ways. In the beginning of the story we had:

- Naruto trying to reach Sasuke and wanting Sakura's love
- Sasuke trying to prove his superiority to Naruto at any chance he could
- Sakura loving Sasuke despite his indifference and slowly growing to care more for Naruto despite initial hate

Absolutely nothing has changed. Team 7 has shown incredible character growth (be it good or bad), but they still hold the same positions as it was in the beginning. And I don't think anything extremely significant will change their positions until we are finally in the final confrontation. Even if something happened in the current battle with the Juubi that could imply NS (which I'm secretly hoping for) there won't be any true resolution of their positions until the very end.

The Naruto and Sasuke bond is the most significant story wise, but the Team 7 bond and the position they hold with each other as a whole is where the whole tension lies. That's also one of the reasons I would dislike for Naruto to stop loving Sakura now. If Naruto didn't love Sakura then the Team 7 connection wouldn't be as tense in order to keep up the emotions for the finale.

The events that lead to the final fight and what happens in the aftermath is what will finally shift the positions of Team 7. And those events won't begin to take place until Sasuke shows up in this war. So for now Team 7 hold the same positions as they always have.

That could also be the reason Sakura's confession went the way it did. It might be that she consciously knows she feels something for Naruto, but that her heart feels stronger for Sasuke. It could be that she wants Naruto to be the one that makes her feel that way (which is why she confessed the way she did), but since the Team 7 conflict is not resolved her feelings for Sasuke are going to remain as they have. Naruto seems to be aware that until Team 7 can be at peace with each other that the way any of them feel won't change, which is why he rejected Sakura's confession.

Even if Naruto can accept Sakura has growing feelings for him he's not foolish enough to think she can just let go of Sasuke as the situation stands. Also, it seems that after the Summit arc that Sakura has accepted how she feels and that until everything is resolved that it will just have to be as it is, which could be the reason for that moment in chapter 540. She can be in love with Sasuke, but it doesn't mean she wants to. She just is for now.

Nice Post.

I pretty much agree there. The love triangle of team 7 is going to be resolved near the end. Ive always seen the summit arc as some kind of hurdle to stretch NS till the end.
I really think that was the reason, since he also split naruto and sakura after that arc to avoid a real conversation about what happend during sakuras confession. That was the only way to stall NS till the end of the story and i think he did a good job ther.

ada_wong_signature_by_valxy-d5m0oa1.png


#8337 TouKen4Life3g

TouKen4Life3g

    Heaven and Earth Deity

  • Kyuubi
  • PipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 35,306 posts
  • Gender:Male

Posted 12 January 2013 - 03:42 PM

Wonderful post, redragon88.

I think Kishi created a reason for Naruto to not to confess until everything is back in order. To me, that's like holding the plot for NS to resolve. When he said that, I thought myself, "Well that's one way to save the romance part for last." That's actually a legit reason as well, so Kishi should get some credit for that. Usually confession happens at the end just cause. This one makes sense because not only it makes the anticipation higher, but it's still show Naruto is selfless and while it's nice of him, we still feel bad that he is not with Sakura yet. We can only hope as fans.

For the record, even they are split to avoid interactions about the last situation, that doesn't mean Sakura won't make any contact in this arc. Right now, their mind is to stop these two masterminds from taking over the world. They can interact without bringing up Team 7 situation into the mix. It didn't happen in Pain Arc. That's the thing I like about these two, they can interact just about everything. Anyway, we just have to bare with this a little longer. Oh, even the tension must be remain for the sake of the last arc, that doesn't mean Sakura can't start thinking about love. You could do this way: after the battle, Sakura will get that feeling that Naruto might the one. Next arc, you have her thinking about what's going on with her mind, especially the situation at that time should be more calm. That's one way you can have the tension increase for Team 7 dilemma. Just a thought.

#8338 Chatte

Chatte

    Heaven and Earth Deity

  • Kyuubi
  • PipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 5,755 posts
  • Gender:Female
  • Location:Romania

Posted 12 January 2013 - 04:09 PM

QUOTE (redragon88 @ Jan 12 2013, 09:51 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Before I knew about pairing fandoms I was truly under the impression that every fan of Naruto was rooting for him to eventually win Sakura's heart. Although when I started paying attention to pairing fandoms it was already after the Summit arc, so maybe those events influenced the opinions of many. For all I know maybe more people where expecting Naruto and Sakura to end up together before that arc.

To me NS was extremely obvious up to the Summit arc, then my expectation were completely shaken. Karui brought Sakura's feelings for Sasuke back into the light in a way I hadn't thought about in all of part 2, not even during the first reunion in Orochimaru's lair. Then Sai tells Sakura about Naruto's feelings. I would've thought that would be a good thing, but the way it turned out seemed so sad. Then Sakura becomes determined and I wondered what she would do. Before her confession to Naruto I was imagining that something like that could happen given her new determination, but it just didn't feel like it would be right given how so many complicated feelings about Team 7 were so suddenly revived.

And then when the confession happened it did in the way I was imagining it would, based how I saw the situation so far. I'll admit that the whole development during the Summit arc is very heartbreaking. It's like Naruto and Sakura didn't know what to do with each other, and don't act in the best way the can. Sakura tries to take all of the burden from Naruto while he only becomes more anxious to the point of collapsing. Even Kakashi's resolution to kill Sasuke was sad given how he made mention that regardless of Sasuke's darkness he still loved him, just like Hiruzen still loved Orochimaru despite his defection.

It seemed that part of the purpose of the Summit arc was to show all of Team 7 at their worst possible point. You have:

- Sasuke completely immersed in his darkness to the point he's senselessly sacrificing comrades
- Kakashi and Sakura forsaking their bond with Sasuke despite how much they care and love him
- Naruto not knowing what to do with Sasuke to the point he had a mental collapse

The Summit arc turned out to be one of the most emotionally darkest arcs in Naruto. Maybe that's one of the reasons not a lot of people liked it. I guess in that aspect it was a good thing to keep Sakura's feelings for Sasuke intact so far. If she wasn't in love with Sasuke then the impact of the deconstruction of the Team 7 bond that happened during the Summit arc wouldn't be as grand.

Team 7 can grow and change, but until there's resolution with Sasuke they'll always be drawn to the old ways. In the beginning of the story we had:

- Naruto trying to reach Sasuke and wanting Sakura's love
- Sasuke trying to prove his superiority to Naruto at any chance he could
- Sakura loving Sasuke despite his indifference and slowly growing to care more for Naruto despite initial hate

Absolutely nothing has changed. Team 7 has shown incredible character growth (be it good or bad), but they still hold the same positions as it was in the beginning. And I don't think anything extremely significant will change their positions until we are finally in the final confrontation. Even if something happened in the current battle with the Juubi that could imply NS (which I'm secretly hoping for) there won't be any true resolution of their positions until the very end.

The Naruto and Sasuke bond is the most significant story wise, but the Team 7 bond and the position they hold with each other as a whole is where the whole tension lies. That's also one of the reasons I would dislike for Naruto to stop loving Sakura now. If Naruto didn't love Sakura then the Team 7 connection wouldn't be as tense in order to keep up the emotions for the finale.

The events that lead to the final fight and what happens in the aftermath is what will finally shift the positions of Team 7. And those events won't begin to take place until Sasuke shows up in this war. So for now Team 7 hold the same positions as they always have.

That could also be the reason Sakura's confession went the way it did. It might be that she consciously knows she feels something for Naruto, but that her heart feels stronger for Sasuke. It could be that she wants Naruto to be the one that makes her feel that way (which is why she confessed the way she did), but since the Team 7 conflict is not resolved her feelings for Sasuke are going to remain as they have. Naruto seems to be aware that until Team 7 can be at peace with each other that the way any of them feel won't change, which is why he rejected Sakura's confession.

Even if Naruto can accept Sakura has growing feelings for him he's not foolish enough to think she can just let go of Sasuke as the situation stands. Also, it seems that after the Summit arc that Sakura has accepted how she feels and that until everything is resolved that it will just have to be as it is, which could be the reason for that moment in chapter 540. She can be in love with Sasuke, but it doesn't mean she wants to. She just is for now.


I pretty much agree. Especially on that part where you said that if there's no love triangle, there's no tension. And I agree with Team 7 seen at their worst, I think you put it better than I had though.
Now, with Sakura, given this situation and a chat I had with James the previous days, I finally get to understand her why she is still thinking at Sasuke and not letting go of him up to a certain point as well as, in the same time, being in love with Naruto.
Basically, the thing is, she is in love with Naruto, however, the fact that her feelings for Sasuke haven't been resolved, they've never talked about it, they didn't come with a resolution to all this drama, is what still keeps Sakura loving Sasuke.
And why I say that, is because I have a similar story with her...somehow. My first relationship, that first love we all have, started at 12 years and a half old. I know, young as hell. We've been through many things together. Back at that time, I was some sort of Sakura, loved him so so much, he was a popular guy... Now, the negativities in Sasuke/Sakura "relationship" similar to mine, was that well, he used to cheat on me. But I was too in love, got past it, he still stuck with me. For fun at first, later, he got in love, but it was too late, kinda.
Anyway, long story short is that, in time, we broke up, but very badly, not talking, not having the resolve part of our relationship. Because of him, I ruined some 2 relationships given the fact that I still had something for him, though the guys with who I was, were great. Tipically, you'd say, Naruto style. But he was the Sasuke guy. So these relationships were broken because of the fact we didn't had the resolve when we broke-up.
Now, you know when we had our resolve, like, finally? 2 years ago. And I'm currently turning, soon, 24. We broke up first at my 15's, then he came back around my 16's - 17's and ruined those relationships I've been telling you about, broke up again, unspoken things. And every since my 17's up to my 22's, every year, at the same time, 1 week non-stop, I was dreaming him. It was like he didn't let my life go on. At some point in time, I was in a pretty serious relationship, my and my boyfriend at that time were sleeping and stuff and I was dreaming him. Imagine, only, that stuff.
Now, last 2 years (keep forgetting we're in 2013 now), I knew I had to contact him, talk with him as the dreams and the anxiety the dreams were giving me, kept coming more frequent. Long story short, we met, talked like two adults, finally said what was between us, and ended it up everything. In the end, he had kids now, a family. Problem is, that over time, he did fell in love with me but it was too late when he did, so he was having those kinda same dreams as me, even now, after years of breaking up and having a family and a kid. That's the freakish part of our story. Don't judge, please^^

Anyway, after we met, we were both at peace because we talked and came to a resolution with our relationship. It ended all there. He went on with his family and I went on with my life. Ever since, I am more calm, I stopped dreaming about him. And now, it's all a memory and I can love freely whoever I want because that memory of his, it's not in the past, my heart is in the present.

The reason why I told you this is because... me and Sakura are quite similar. Fun story, she's an Aries like me, she's born on 28th March, me, on 29th. Characters, just the same. I used to beat up boys, I am loud-mouth when something doesn't adds up to me, I am respectful with the people around me, I get agressive if a dear one of mine is hurt, I cry a lot.

So, anyway, the reason I told you is because maybe some will understand why Sakura still "loves" Sasuke and cannot move, yet, to Naruto. She needs her resolution with Sasuke in order to freely move to Naruto. Yes, she loves Naruto, I can assure you that, as I, myself, have loved those 2 in the relationships that got broken because of the former. But they were broken because I hadn't come to a resolution with him, even if I loved them. So, in order for Sakura to fully be with Naruto, she first needs to have the resolution with Sasuke by any means.

Don't doubt she loves Naruto, in that romantic way, yes, but don't expect her to be able to be with him, until the matter with Sasuke is closed.

Anyway, sorry for the long rant, I wanted it to be shorter, but I hope you get the idea even though sometimes I am hard at explaining myself. happy.gif

Edited by Chatte, 12 January 2013 - 04:16 PM.

2d617bda57e68a9871d0769988a82b4b93870803

Still rambling about Naruto/NaruSaku stuff on

https://chatte-georgiana.com


#8339 Branden

Branden

    The man who's going to save the world.

  • Jounin
  • PipPipPipPip
  • 1,700 posts
  • Gender:Male

Posted 12 January 2013 - 06:04 PM

QUOTE (Slextrem @ Jan 11 2013, 10:46 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Don't remind me. dry.gif
I'm just anxious to find out the fate of NaruSaku. Hopefully something better will come from the spoilers this time around. The suspense is killing me~

In all likelihood we won't find out anything about NaruSaku until Sasuke gets saved. Maybe 1 more bit of development before then but ultimitely it all comes down to what happens once Sasuke is saved.

Romance_Dawn_Arc.png

"This hat means a lot to me. Promise me you'll give it back someday...

when you've become a great pirate." -Shanks


#8340 Sakamaki Izayoi

Sakamaki Izayoi

    Heaven and Earth Deity

  • Kyuubi
  • PipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 7,679 posts
  • Gender:Male

Posted 12 January 2013 - 06:34 PM

QUOTE (Branden @ Jan 12 2013, 03:04 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
In all likelihood we won't find out anything about NaruSaku until Sasuke gets saved. Maybe 1 more bit of development before then but ultimitely it all comes down to what happens once Sasuke is saved.

I think before Sasuke, Sakura has to get rid of her problems with her bad view about herself, and Naruto stating once again that he loves her.
Before Sasuke is saved because i doubt that Sasuke will stay on the village., after he back to team taka.
I mean Sasuke has his own comrades.
It's just a matter of changing Sasuke to stop his revenge desires.

Edited by Dαrkrєrsŧ, 12 January 2013 - 06:34 PM.

SK-303_image007.jpg




0 user(s) are reading this topic

0 members, 0 guests, 0 anonymous users