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#8261 Phantom_999

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Posted 10 February 2012 - 12:30 AM

QUOTE (pharix @ Feb 8 2012, 05:25 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
would be kind of dumb if even SAI knows he's in love with Sakura before Hinata does...


Hey Hinata didn't really pay attention to who Naruto LIKES. tongue.gif just knew that he was her role model and the man she loves. smile.gif

QUOTE (Dragunov @ Feb 8 2012, 05:30 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Maybe Hinata thinks shes getting confident. Maybe she thinks she can even help out in the fight with Madara. Anyone remember her fight against Pain? I remember all 16 seconds of it. Way to go.



QUOTE (Fenris @ Feb 8 2012, 06:13 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I thought it was about 12 seconds.
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Okay before you say that actually ask yourselves if anyone else in the Konoha 11 would do BETTER? We are taking about the man/ zombies that killed Jiraiya and you're snickering at Hinata for not even lasting a chapter against him? Come on, don't be like the (more) rabid NH fans, dissing the competition to your princess' sweetheart just cause they're in the way. mellow.gif

QUOTE (Haaky @ Feb 9 2012, 02:03 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
This crap Hinata said in chapter 573 is scaring the kitten out of me. I do not like this development at all.



This made me feel a bit better, but wasn't the same...



Just comradeship stuff. don't worry about it too much. If that doesn't calm you Might I point out Sakura's speech was pretty touching too. happy.gif Worry only if if Hinata starts HUGGING/KISSING him wacko.gif

Edited by Phantom_999, 10 February 2012 - 12:34 AM.

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Posted 10 February 2012 - 12:46 AM

QUOTE (Phantom_999 @ Feb 9 2012, 04:30 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Hey Hinata didn't really pay attention to who Naruto LIKES. tongue.gif just knew that he was her role model and the man she loves. smile.gif






Okay before you say that actually ask yourselves if anyone else in the Konoha 11 would do BETTER? We are taking about the man/ zombies that killed Jiraiya and you're snickering at Hinata for not even lasting a chapter against him? Come on, don't be like the (more) rabid NH fans, dissing the competition to your princess' sweetheart just cause they're in the way. mellow.gif



Just comradeship stuff. don't worry about it too much. If that doesn't calm you Might I point out Sakura's speech was pretty touching too. happy.gif Worry only if if Hinata starts HUGGING/KISSING him wacko.gif


Please if she hasn't done any of that since part 1 she's not going to start now. Hinata is not the kind of person to be that bold, now Sakura yeah she's someone who will have the guts to steal a kiss from Naruto at least on the cheek, but you never know. pictureem0.gif
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Posted 10 February 2012 - 01:04 AM

That's why I'm saying only to worry IF one of those things happens. Completely ruined the romantic development there if he did that with out actually having Naruto and Hinata interact more. BUT WAIT!!!! Don't say that cause Sakura hasn't done that since part one either. So lets not jinx it with that. zomg.gif

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Posted 10 February 2012 - 01:05 AM

I wish that at any moment during the war Sakura would defend Naruto from some sort of attack and then say something like:

"Naruto is the man who will become the Hokage! Don't think you can get close to him so easily"

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Posted 10 February 2012 - 01:41 AM

QUOTE (redragon88 @ Feb 9 2012, 05:05 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I wish that at any moment during the war Sakura would defend Naruto from some sort of attack and then say something like:

"Naruto is the man who will become the Hokage! Don't think you can get close to him so easily"

That would be swell~

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Posted 10 February 2012 - 02:15 AM

QUOTE (BabyVee @ Feb 9 2012, 02:10 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Okay so here's foreshadowing in a positive light I guess.

chapter 572 Kurama jokes that Naruto has never kissed a girl.

Conclusion: Naruto will kiss Sakura.


Definitely.

QUOTE (Gravenimage @ Feb 9 2012, 02:39 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
You might be right I think Kishi decided to give the idea by making Kyuubi make that joke. The hero and main protagonist has that right to kiss the girl that he likes. pictureem0.gif

I was thinking that, I had a thought of Kyuubi or Naruto making a comment after he kisses Sakura about it.


QUOTE (narunarunaru @ Feb 9 2012, 03:13 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Was it only me who loved that Kishi showed Uzumaki clan symbol on Sakura's jonin vest this chapter when she thinks "You always get left with these insurmountable tasks" page?

I know it's insignificant, but I loved the fact that Kishi showed the Uzumaki clan symbol very clearly on Sakura's jounin vest unlike the other rookies.

Ofcourse this doesn't help the pairing at all. But I can be happy with these smallest things can't I?


I loved this too. <3

QUOTE (Phantom_999 @ Feb 10 2012, 12:30 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Okay before you say that actually ask yourselves if anyone else in the Konoha 11 would do BETTER? We are taking about the man/ zombies that killed Jiraiya and you're snickering at Hinata for not even lasting a chapter against him? Come on, don't be like the (more) rabid NH fans, dissing the competition to your princess' sweetheart just cause they're in the way. mellow.gif

Well, Sakura is also part of the k11, and Sasori - who took down the Third, ... (I forgot what they're called ..., and ... (Someone refresh my memory, I'm having a total brain lapse here. argh1.png ) My point is, Sakura took down Sasori like a piece of cake. I know Pain is probably more stronger than Sasori - but that was my point in the other post discussing on how *I really don't know how people can see Hinata as a heroine.* Sakura's fight was about 5 + chapters, Hinata's fight didn't take me 20 seconds to read because it was literally over as soon as it begun. Not dissing, just being serious here.

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Posted 10 February 2012 - 02:48 AM

QUOTE (Fenris @ Feb 10 2012, 02:15 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Definitely.


I was thinking that, I had a thought of Kyuubi or Naruto making a comment after he kisses Sakura about it.




I loved this too. <3


Well, Sakura is also part of the k11, and Sasori - who took down the Third, ... (I forgot what they're called ..., and ... (Someone refresh my memory, I'm having a total brain lapse here. argh1.png ) My point is, Sakura took down Sasori like a piece of cake. I know Pain is probably more stronger than Sasori - but that was my point in the other post discussing on how *I really don't know how people can see Hinata as a heroine.* Sakura's fight was about 5 + chapters, Hinata's fight didn't take me 20 seconds to read because it was literally over as soon as it begun. Not dissing, just being serious here.


actually i think hinata would have lasted longer if she had a plan......i mean it will take a while before pain sucks kurama outta naruto....she could have at least thought of something before running out there. it seemed kinda suicidal actually. but im not trying to bash her! i do believe sakura could have lasted longer (shes smart afterall and good at thinking) but i might be biased....XD


ALSO!! i want to say something....i dont like it when narusaku fans argument against why sakura didnt go out and rescue naruto himself was because he told everyone to stay...........thats not true

what really happened was she couldnt see what was going on and a byukugan user was giving her little info on the situation (which also means she was very far away), while hinata had byukugan herself and could see everything(and closer).

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Posted 10 February 2012 - 03:01 AM

If anyone is afraid of the Hinata moment in this chapter, I think your forgetting Naruto's love for Sakura. For it to be a couple, both must love each other. Game over NH?

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Posted 10 February 2012 - 03:10 AM

QUOTE (Sakura Lover @ Feb 9 2012, 09:01 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
If anyone is afraid of the Hinata moment in this chapter, I think your forgetting Naruto's love for Sakura. For it to be a couple, both must love each other. Game over NH?

Yeah, but I keep getting this feeling Kishi is gonna drop a big "F" YOU bomb on everyone. I mean...this is the end of the manga after all isn't it? Naruto is about to fight Sasuke and everyone is on there way to help him. But I guess the Madar fight is still coming... Still, I've got a bad feeling here.

But Even if Naruto starts to love Hinata, it's WAY too late for that. 500+ chapters and Naruto just falls for Hinata out of nowhere?! I'll be PISSED if that happens argh1.png

.............wow Sakura lover you would put that song on there wouldn't you? arg.gif MY EARS!!! I WAS WEARING HEADPHONES TOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! rawr.gif

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Posted 10 February 2012 - 05:16 AM

QUOTE (Dalton (I stink at names) @ Feb 10 2012, 04:10 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Yeah, but I keep getting this feeling Kishi is gonna drop a big "F" YOU bomb on everyone. I mean...this is the end of the manga after all isn't it? Naruto is about to fight Sasuke and everyone is on there way to help him. But I guess the Madar fight is still coming... Still, I've got a bad feeling here.

But Even if Naruto starts to love Hinata, it's WAY too late for that. 500+ chapters and Naruto just falls for Hinata out of nowhere?! I'll be PISSED if that happens argh1.png

.............wow Sakura lover you would put that song on there wouldn't you? arg.gif MY EARS!!! I WAS WEARING HEADPHONES TOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! rawr.gif

Hinata said "I'm going to stop chasing you, please, wait for me!" and "I'll fight alongside you". She is saying what everyone else is saying. That she is going to get stronger, so that she can protect Naruto, and not put a burden on him. That's why everyone is charging towards the fight. Sakura said it herself when she said "We're ALL going to fight together!". The "holding hand" could not possibly be romantic if she just said "I'm going to stop chasing after you", I believe that is was meant to be a friendly thing. Once again, Kishi is trying to tell us NaruHina is over.

Oh, and I'm sensing a different completely different Sakura. The #1 Sakura lover knows when Sakura has changed. I think her definition of "true love" has changed from "SAASSSSUUUUKKKEEEE!" into "care". Like when the woman came to the med tents and begged to let her husband, and went on to say she was nothing without him. She knew it could very well be a Zestu, but she was willing to put her life on the line for the true love that she was seeing. And of course, who do you think made her change her mind? Hint, starts with a N. This was all expected of course. Naruto is where Sakura is getting her character development from, and Naruto will be the one to have the pink haired babies, not Sasuke (well black hair would be favored over the pink hair, but you get my point).

Prediction for the future: Just like Kushina gave her life for Naruto, I believe that Sakura will do the same, but survive from something that has to do with healing (possibly a new technique from Tsunade).

Also, how could Naruto marry Hinata, then his babies would have those creepy eyes. That's not Uzumaki style.

Oh, and yes, the song... LOL. heheelq7.png

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Posted 10 February 2012 - 06:44 AM

Hinata's extra bit of confidence is the result of Naruto telling her that she's strong in 559 (what Naruto said then meant a lot to her as her "thank you" expressed) and whatever message transpired through the two of them looking at each other's eyes. I'm not of the opinion that Hinata's "confidence" in this chapter is due to the two of them talking about the confession. I consider it a result of chapter 559. I was 90% sure would be canon after chapter 98 but after this one it became 100%. Whatever you guys say smile.gif.





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Edited by Fickly, 10 February 2012 - 07:00 AM.


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Posted 10 February 2012 - 07:07 AM

^^ Its up to you on what you can perceive as "100%" canon. As always for me, I'm willing to see how it all plays out in the end. It might be NaruSaku, which is just you know a personal preference for me due to personal relationships, or it could be Naruhina.

There's just absolutely no way to assume anything, we just have to go back into the manga, see everything that happened, see which events make sense, and which doesn't, and make a good prediction. But just because we could make a good prediction does not mean that its the conclusion. The conclusion is what Kishi wants it to be.

I will say this though, if Kishi does really want Naruhina, he's going to need to make a good argument and a good way to convince people, like me, to show that maybe Naruto does have intimate feelings for Hinata. But if we're talking about female relationships, we still just can't out Naruto's relationship to Sakura. What is it right now and what will it be in the future?

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Posted 10 February 2012 - 07:21 AM

QUOTE (Fickly @ Feb 9 2012, 10:44 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Hinata's extra bit of confidence is the result of Naruto telling her that she's strong in 559 (what Naruto said then meant a lot to her as her "thank you" expressed) and whatever message transpired through the two of them looking at each other's eyes. I'm not of the opinion that Hinata's "confidence" in this chapter is due to the two of them talking about the confession. I consider it a result of chapter 559. I was 90% sure would be canon after chapter 98 but after this one it became 100%. Whatever you guys say smile.gif.




''Goes back to celebrate''

Trolls back! Dont cry victory till the war's over tongue.gif The thing is, that, there is no indication of interest on Naruto's part. If you'd think this is gonna happen after him not giving a damn, for, lets say.........12 years this has been going, then, there would be STILL some argument over to what you're trying to conclude. Go back to celebrating. In due time, Kishimoto's gonna crash that party like Pein's stake on Hinata's chest.

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Posted 10 February 2012 - 08:09 AM

One thing I don't like about NaruSaku right now is the lack of partnership.

Sakura trusts Naruto. (And relies too much on him as well)
1. During the fight between Kiba vs. Naruto, Sakura had complete faith in him, unlike Hinata who was worried.
2. During the Sasuke retrieval arc with team 8, when Tobi hit Naruto and Hinata was worried, Sakura was like, "Don't worry, Naruto is fine."
3. Same could be said during the Pein fight. She trusted Naruto to come to the rescue. And she never went against, "don't disturb my fight."
4. After the encounter with Karui and Omoi, Naruto said "leave it to me Sakura-chan." Sakura did as was told.

It makes me feel as if Kishi's intentionally putting the scenes with team 8 to show the difference between Sakura and Hinata.

But when does Naruto trust Sakura?
What got me frustrated was that Sakura was the only member of team 7 who doesn't know anything at all about the Uchiha massacre. What makes it worse is that Naruto kept it a secret from Sakura because Kakashi said so.
Sure, Sakura lies to Naruto too. Like, when she got hurt from the four tails Naruto, or about killing Sasuke. But the reason was because, she wanted to protect him.
I know trust is to be earned. But if Naruto loves Sakura but he doesn't trust her, how is it really different to Sakura loving Sasuke(who she never really trusted from before the time skip)?

NaruSaku is one-sided in a way.
If this was in a modern setting it would be like, "Hey thank you for working for me night and day!" "Your welcome. Thank you for staying in the kitchen and waiting for me!"
If that is the type of girl Naruto wants, then I think Hinata is more fit for it.

Do you think this will be solved after what Itachi said about trusting and relying on your teammates?
Because I'm not sure I want NaruSaku to happen when it's really one-sided the way it is.

P.S I'm confident that NS will happen. My statement above is not if it will happen or not, but whether I want it to happen the way it is.

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Posted 10 February 2012 - 09:25 AM

QUOTE (narunarunaru @ Feb 10 2012, 09:09 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
One thing I don't like about NaruSaku right now is the lack of partnership.

Sakura trusts Naruto. (And relies too much on him as well)
1. During the fight between Kiba vs. Naruto, Sakura had complete faith in him, unlike Hinata who was worried.
2. During the Sasuke retrieval arc with team 8, when Tobi hit Naruto and Hinata was worried, Sakura was like, "Don't worry, Naruto is fine."
3. Same could be said during the Pein fight. She trusted Naruto to come to the rescue. And she never went against, "don't disturb my fight."
4. After the encounter with Karui and Omoi, Naruto said "leave it to me Sakura-chan." Sakura did as was told.

It makes me feel as if Kishi's intentionally putting the scenes with team 8 to show the difference between Sakura and Hinata.

But when does Naruto trust Sakura?
What got me frustrated was that Sakura was the only member of team 7 who doesn't know anything at all about the Uchiha massacre. What makes it worse is that Naruto kept it a secret from Sakura because Kakashi said so.
Sure, Sakura lies to Naruto too. Like, when she got hurt from the four tails Naruto, or about killing Sasuke. But the reason was because, she wanted to protect him.
I know trust is to be earned. But if Naruto loves Sakura but he doesn't trust her, how is it really different to Sakura loving Sasuke(who she never really trusted from before the time skip)?

NaruSaku is one-sided in a way.
If this was in a modern setting it would be like, "Hey thank you for working for me night and day!" "Your welcome. Thank you for staying in the kitchen and waiting for me!"
If that is the type of girl Naruto wants, then I think Hinata is more fit for it.

Do you think this will be solved after what Itachi said about trusting and relying on your teammates?
Because I'm not sure I want NaruSaku to happen when it's really one-sided the way it is.

P.S I'm confident that NS will happen. My statement above is not if it will happen or not, but whether I want it to happen the way it is.


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Posted 10 February 2012 - 09:27 AM

QUOTE (Sakura Lover @ Feb 10 2012, 06:16 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Also, how could Naruto marry Hinata, then his babies would have those creepy eyes. That's not Uzumaki style.


Hahaha, Uzumaki style. What's that, marrying women who look like their mothers? biggrin.gif

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Posted 10 February 2012 - 10:24 AM

QUOTE (Kim @ Feb 10 2012, 05:27 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Hahaha, Uzumaki style. What's that, marrying women who look like their mothers? biggrin.gif


Hey its been said that a girl finds a guy who has same traits as her dad. It could happen to guys as well.

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Posted 10 February 2012 - 10:51 AM

QUOTE (BabyVee @ Feb 9 2012, 06:10 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Okay so here's foreshadowing in a positive light I guess.

chapter 572 Kurama jokes that Naruto has never kissed a girl.

Conclusion: Naruto will kiss Sakura.


Babyvee - I thought (hoped) the same thing, and I even have a plot for it:

In the latest Kishi's interview (posted recently in a thread here), he said that he liked How To Train Your Dragon. I ALWAYS thought that the Hiccup / Astrid pairing is quite similar to NS, and moreso the NS Hug at the end of Pain fight is very similar to the ending of How To Train Your Dragon, where Astrid punches Hiccup and says "that's for worrying me", Hiccup whines: "is this going to always be like this??" then Astrid KISSES him.

(And Sakura's latest monologue about her concern for Naruto only strengthened my fantasy plot)
So, in my head, it will go like this, (a re-visitation of the Pain fight Hug):

End of war, battered Naruto having his usual (adoring) silly smile.
Sakura marches up to him and punches him on the head.
Naruto, pouting and mumbling "Sakura-chaaaaaaan. Will it always be like this?"
Every one else around them chuckle, remembering about the Pain war, thinking: "here's Sakura punching Naruto again."
Narusaku fans, a bit nervous. "What is she DOING!"
Naruhina fans (brandishing pitchforks and torches and screaming sacriledge): See!!! She is ABUSIVE and VIOLENT!!! She does NOT deserve Naruto!!!!!
Sakura, glaring at Naruto: "That's for worrying me to death, you BAKA!"
Naruto, nervous, then thinks about the Pain fight's hug too, and thinks "a hug will be coming!"
But no hug, instead, Sakura pulls him in for a Kiss tongue.gif .
The rest is up to our imagination!

(And I think the young Kurama looks a little bit like Toothless in How to train Your Dragon)

Edited by Madz, 10 February 2012 - 10:59 AM.


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Posted 10 February 2012 - 12:38 PM

QUOTE (Madz @ Feb 10 2012, 11:51 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Babyvee - I thought (hoped) the same thing, and I even have a plot for it:

In the latest Kishi's interview (posted recently in a thread here), he said that he liked How To Train Your Dragon. I ALWAYS thought that the Hiccup / Astrid pairing is quite similar to NS, and moreso the NS Hug at the end of Pain fight is very similar to the ending of How To Train Your Dragon, where Astrid punches Hiccup and says "that's for worrying me", Hiccup whines: "is this going to always be like this??" then Astrid KISSES him.

(And Sakura's latest monologue about her concern for Naruto only strengthened my fantasy plot)
So, in my head, it will go like this, (a re-visitation of the Pain fight Hug):

End of war, battered Naruto having his usual (adoring) silly smile.
Sakura marches up to him and punches him on the head.
Naruto, pouting and mumbling "Sakura-chaaaaaaan. Will it always be like this?"
Every one else around them chuckle, remembering about the Pain war, thinking: "here's Sakura punching Naruto again."
Narusaku fans, a bit nervous. "What is she DOING!"
Naruhina fans (brandishing pitchforks and torches and screaming sacriledge): See!!! She is ABUSIVE and VIOLENT!!! She does NOT deserve Naruto!!!!!
Sakura, glaring at Naruto: "That's for worrying me to death, you BAKA!"
Naruto, nervous, then thinks about the Pain fight's hug too, and thinks "a hug will be coming!"
But no hug, instead, Sakura pulls him in for a Kiss tongue.gif .
The rest is up to our imagination!

(And I think the young Kurama looks a little bit like Toothless in How to train Your Dragon)


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Posted 10 February 2012 - 05:35 PM

So this is coming from a pro SS fan who people have been dabating with.

Just as I thought, there are no indications of romantic feelings whatsoever. What there is is Sakura's true acknowledgement of Naruto as a teammate and friend - Naruto saving Sakura's ass, Sakura worring about Naruto like any person would do and friendly hug between the two of them. How can these be evidence seriously? Chapter 540 can be many thing, but the last thing it is, is big hint for NS. It simply isn't. Its like saying Sakura's false confession to Naruto was a major NS hint.

Also, many people like to claim Sasuke has no feelings for Sakura. Just because Sasuke doesn't show his emotions, doesn't mean he has not any. Sasuke has also gratitude to Sakura, and yes, Sakura had saved Sasuke's life twice. Over the course of Part I, it was already shown how Sakura developed her feelings of fangirl-ness to a selfless, trusting, caring love to Sasuke.

Saying that 'Part I is gone and this Shippuden Sakura' is no where near true. Like I said many of the characters current situation is a result of what happen in the first series. And Kishimoto did state on a interview that he had the overall plot sorted out from the beginning...

This is how I see it : After all the time Naruto and Sakura spent together without Sasuke, and if NS was ever meant to happen, Sakura and Naruto would be in a very different situation that they are now. Yet Naruto still has that clumsy feelings for Sakura and Sakura still loves Sasuke.

What I'm trying to say is that, considering that Kishi is not very fond of relationships and considering that he had plenty of time to put Sakura and Naruto together but still he didn't do it (made Sakura falsely confess to Naruto instead), its almost like a wake up call for NS fans - it has very little chances of happening.

He could have easily thrown Sakura to Naruto's arms, and still he didn't. Instead he shows evidence that Hinata is growing stronger so as her feelings for him, not to mention her genuine confession and her sacrifice. And now we are in a war, meaning that sort of development between Naruto and Sakura is over. Now this will be about Sasuke.


Anyone want to give me a few comebacks to that? I've used about every bullet I have and she still ignores them. I swear some of these SS fans just refuse to accept SS is dead.




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