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[Don-kun]

Nope because those scene were actually in the movie and Hinata grabbing Naruto by his neck was too in the movie, the one shot had any NH moment, neither SS.
Sakura was liking Sasuke until she found out that he didnt loved her.
PEople got trolled when they was expecting to see a movie full of NH and SS when since the begining we knew that the main casters were Naruto and Sakura.
I wasnt expecting any Nh or SS moments neither NS for some reason.


It's too early to say what pairing will be the arc didnt even ended yet.
There's a lot of fights.
If NS got a scene you will soon change your mind.

The problem like i said Sakura does not acknowledge herself as a good person i think she may thinks that she deserve a bad person like Sasuke.
She even puts herself down calling that Naruto is a fool for loving her.

Naruto has the chance to acknowledge Sakura as a woman, and this will make her love him leading to a great love story, and she shining as the main heroine of the series again and notice that this is not fanfic.

Yeah I read your post and noticed that you weren't expecting anything from any of the pairing but you have to admit that before the spoilers were out no one expected that he would be that way.


2nd point.
I don't need any fan service to make peace with the NS fans, I'm tired of fan service I feel it damage the quality of the story while make the final pairing lest believable and more upsetting to the fans, a confirmation of Sakura's feeling towards Naruto is what I'm looking for at this point.

[Sakamaki Izayoi]

Yeah I read your post and noticed that you weren't expecting anything from any of the pairing but you have to admit that before the spoilers were out no one expected that he would be that way.


2nd point.
I don't need any fan service to make peace with the NS fans, I'm tired of fan service I feel it damage the quality of the story while make the final pairing lest believable and more upsetting to the fans, a confirmation of Sakura's feeling towards Naruto is what I'm looking for at this point.

Do you really think that Naruto has a excellent story?
I never said that the quality of Naruto is good, i know it's crap but it's a good crap.

Edited by Dαrkrєrsŧ, 07 January 2013 - 04:49 PM.

[Don-kun]

Do you really think that Naruto has a excellent story?
I never said that the quality of Naruto is good, i know it's crap but it's a good crap.

I really like Naruto part one, part two is when I start having these negative feelings about the Manga, with the addition of the Naruto obsession for Sasuke and the Ushiha wank.

[PhenixElite]

For everybody whos saying that kishi is a bad writer. If you think about it, dont you think that kishi even needs to be more then a bad writer to make NH or SS canon?
I mean can someone tell me a scenario where as example NH becomes canon without making the whole manga look like kitten?
If clearly think about it, no matter how long, i cant come up with one. Pairing the main character with a side character who has as good as no development and screentime with hinata? Even if he starts now with developing Hinata and naruto, dont you think its far too late after how the story between naruto and sakura progressed?

I mean also if its not canon, i just look at the recent movie and see something like this:


Then in the manga NH is canon. Everyone would be like WTF?

Iam thinking about this manga if you believe it or not in an unbiaed view right now and even then i just cant find any possible way to make any other pairing then NS canon without destroying Narutos character and a very big part of the story.

Just imagine NH becoming canon. Something happens in the manga now and we find out that naruto is somehow in love with hinata. Good.
Now we look back, see the picture of RTN, see the hug, see the feeding scene, see kushinas words, see sakura shouting for naruto during the pain ivasion, see yamtaos words to sakura, see sakuras reaction as she found out that naruto dies when he looses his bijuu, see sakuras reaction when he returns from his 2 year trip, see naruto making the POAL, see narutos reaction after sakura hugs sasuke, see naruto asking sakura about dates 100 times, see naruto loving sakura from chapter 3. In all these moments we have some unintresting moments where we see hinata collapsing after naruto talks with her. But somehow naruto starts loving hinata in the end and all this is for the Ass.

Honestly, Tell me how can be a writer to show something like that? Pls if someone knows any moment where we see naruto falling in love with hinata, without making all the mentioned point look like kitten, then pls tell me.
I doubt there is someone who can come up with a good scenario.

[Don-kun]

For everybody whos saying that kishi is a bad writer. If you think about it, dont you think that kishi even needs to be more then a bad writer to make NH or SS canon?
I mean can someone tell me a scenario where as example NH becomes canon without making the whole manga look like kitten?
If clearly think about it, no matter how long, i cant come up with one. Pairing the main character with a side character who has as good as no development and screentime with hinata? Even if he starts now with developing Hinata and naruto, dont you think its far too late after how the story between naruto and sakura progressed?

I mean also if its not canon, i just look at the recent movie and see something like this:


Then in the manga NH is canon. Everyone would be like WTF?

Iam thinking about this manga if you believe it or not in an unbiaed view right now and even then i just cant find any possible way to make any other pairing then NS canon without destroying Narutos character and a very big part of the story.

Just imagine NH becoming canon. Something happens in the manga now and we find out that naruto is somehow in love with hinata. Good.
Now we look back, see the picture of RTN, see the hug, see the feeding scene, see kushinas words, see sakura shouting for naruto during the pain ivasion, see yamtaos words to sakura, see sakuras reaction as she found out that naruto dies when he looses his bijuu, see sakuras reaction when he returns from his 2 year trip, see naruto making the POAL, see narutos reaction after sakura hugs sasuke, see naruto asking sakura about dates 100 times, see naruto loving sakura from chapter 3. In all these moments we have some unintresting moments where we see hinata collapsing after naruto talks with her. But somehow naruto starts loving hinata in the end and all this is for the Ass.

Honestly, Tell me how can be a writer to show something like that? Pls if someone knows any moment where we see naruto falling in love with hinata, without making all the mentioned point look like kitten, then pls tell me.
I doubt there is someone who can come up with a good scenario.

One answer, NS can be canon and the Manga still becomes crap.
Imagine a good Tobi and Kakashi spending some friendship moment at the end of the Manga.
Orochimaru giving Naruto the blessing of being Hokage and Madara teaching Sasuke how to love others, I'm joking but what I meant is that no matter what pairing becomes a reality not only the pairing choice can make this Manga look like crap.

[PhenixElite]

One answer, NS can be canon and the Manga still becomes crap.
Imagine a good Tobi and Kakashi spending some friendship moment at the end of the Manga.
Orochimaru giving Naruto the blessing of being Hokage and Madara teaching Sasuke how to love others, I'm joking but what I meant is that no matter what pairing becomes a reality not only the pairing choice can make this Manga look like crap.

Yep tahts true, but pairings are also a big point. With the normal story i never really had a big prolblem till now.

[Chatte]

Well, should we worry about it? The movie was NS... If it would be something going on in the future for NH, Kishi surely would address it on a movie. However, the next movie addresses Sasuke's persona.

[Don-kun]

Well, should we worry about it? The movie was NS... If it would be something going on in the future for NH, Kishi surely would address it on a movie. However, the next movie addresses Sasuke's persona.

I always lol at this because we all know that Sasuke didn't receive any focus in the Movie, well not the focus fans were originally expecting, just like me saying that I'm tired of Kishi fan service, this is another example of Kishi trowing a bone to the fans to ease off there anger.
He made an Interview stating that after he become a father he realized that the element of Naruto parents were missing so he decided to give his character that focus in the movie, he made so much mention of things he always wanted to do in the manga but when he realized that it was too late and it would have that much impact this late in the Manga so he will use the chance and focus on those aspect in the movie.

After the fans start complaining about Sasuke's role Naruto's Voice actress came out saying that Kishi's intentions was to make a Sasuke movie but he was declined, I mean who will decline Kishi to make a movie of his choice?

Edited by Don-kun, 07 January 2013 - 05:43 PM.

[Sakamaki Izayoi]

I always lol at this because we all know that Sasuke didn't receive any focus in the Movie, well not the focus fans were originally expecting, just like me saying that I'm tired of Kishi fan service, this is another example of Kishi trowing a bone to the fans to ease off there anger.
He made and Interview stating that after he become a father he realized that the element of Naruto parents were missing to hi decided to give his character that focus, in the movie he made so much mention of things he always wanted to do in the manga but when he realized that it was too late and it would have that much impact in the Manga this late so he will use the chance and focus on those aspect in the movie, but after the fans start complaining about Sasuke's role he came Naruto's Voice actress came out saying that Kishi's intentions was to make a Sasuke movie but he was declined,
I mean who will decline Kishi to make a movie of his choice.

Well she said it but he himself said that it would weird to make a Naruto movie with only Sasuke.
He's probably going to make a movie with Sasuke as the villain.

Edited by Dαrkrєrsŧ, 07 January 2013 - 05:43 PM.

[tricksie]

For everybody whos saying that kishi is a bad writer. If you think about it, dont you think that kishi even needs to be more then a bad writer to make NH or SS canon?
I mean can someone tell me a scenario where as example NH becomes canon without making the whole manga look like sh*t?

...But somehow naruto starts loving hinata in the end and all this is for the Ass.

Honestly, Tell me how can be a writer to show something like that? Pls if someone knows any moment where we see naruto falling in love with hinata, without making all the mentioned point look like sh*t, then pls tell me.

The mods are considering locking the threads and THIS is what you post?

[T XD]

A movie focusing on Sasuke, that would be interesting. Maybe we'll get to know more about what he thinks now after his brother died and his consideration on the revenge on the village and how much is Naruto affecting him.

[Sakamaki Izayoi]

For everybody whos saying that kishi is a bad writer. If you think about it, dont you think that kishi even needs to be more then a bad writer to make NH or SS canon?
I mean can someone tell me a scenario where as example NH becomes canon without making the whole manga look like kitten?
If clearly think about it, no matter how long, i cant come up with one. Pairing the main character with a side character who has as good as no development and screentime with hinata? Even if he starts now with developing Hinata and naruto, dont you think its far too late after how the story between naruto and sakura progressed?

I mean also if its not canon, i just look at the recent movie and see something like this:


Then in the manga NH is canon. Everyone would be like WTF?

Iam thinking about this manga if you believe it or not in an unbiaed view right now and even then i just cant find any possible way to make any other pairing then NS canon without destroying Narutos character and a very big part of the story.

Just imagine NH becoming canon. Something happens in the manga now and we find out that naruto is somehow in love with hinata. Good.
Now we look back, see the picture of RTN, see the hug, see the feeding scene, see kushinas words, see sakura shouting for naruto during the pain ivasion, see yamtaos words to sakura, see sakuras reaction as she found out that naruto dies when he looses his bijuu, see sakuras reaction when he returns from his 2 year trip, see naruto making the POAL, see narutos reaction after sakura hugs sasuke, see naruto asking sakura about dates 100 times, see naruto loving sakura from chapter 3. In all these moments we have some unintresting moments where we see hinata collapsing after naruto talks with her. But somehow naruto starts loving hinata in the end and all this is for the Ass.

Honestly, Tell me how can be a writer to show something like that? Pls if someone knows any moment where we see naruto falling in love with hinata, without making all the mentioned point look like kitten, then pls tell me.
I doubt there is someone who can come up with a good scenario.

You're right but i think you didnt needed to use that words.

[Don-kun]

@Dαrkrєrsŧ
I didn't know that last past, that will make a lot more sense.

A movie focusing on Sasuke, that would be interesting. Maybe we'll get to know more about what he thinks now after his brother died and his consideration on the revenge on the village and how much is Naruto affecting him.

I don't know not much readers care about his novel, much less a movie with only Sasuke focus.

[tricksie]

Due to the continued bickering and negative posts, Both the NS Debate thread and the Chapter 615 thread are locked. We have warned individuals and posted to the thread in general about the tone of the thread, the bashing of characters and fandoms, and insulting language. Not everyone is to blame, and there are certainly those who have tried to help, and we appreciate that. But right now, the mods/admins feel it's best for everyone to take a break, realign your thinking, and remember that this is a place for fair debate. Not bashing. The threads will be opened again after mods/admins have had a chance to revisit the rules for these threads and how we will handle them going forward.

[Sakura Blossoms]

Re-opened...for now.

Things are obviously going to be a bit touchy for our pairing for the next couple manga chapters. You all can't keep self-imploding every day for the foreseeable future over it. We embarrass ourselves to others who come to see what our reactions are to the latest chapters. Show that we are all better than what is thought of us. So, far all we've done is play right into the impression of us being a fandom that can't even handle a little character development. Let's not further embarrass ourselves by continuing to fight with ourselves and others. We're supposed to be One Fandom, One Community, One Family. Let's act like it from now on ^^

[TouKen4Life3g]

Thank you. Here's hoping that we all learn our lesson and make sure mods can relax. Thank you.

I have a question for you guys, since I need to think over this: what is up with that shot with Sakura thinking Hinata loves Naruto long time ago? What is your guys take on it?

[Sakamaki Izayoi]

Thank you. Here's hoping that we all learn our lesson and make sure mods can relax. Thank you.

I have a question for you guys, since I need to think over this: what is up with that shot with Sakura thinking Hinata loves Naruto long time ago? What is your guys take on it?

I think she dont think about it, she didnt take it in consideration when she make that confession for Naruto, she didnt even take in consideration the ammount of womans that loved Sasuke why she would care about Hinata?

Would be the same did Naruto care about Lee loving Sakura?

Edited by Dαrkrєrsŧ, 09 January 2013 - 04:43 PM.

[TouKen4Life3g]

I think she dont think about it, she didnt take it in consideration when she make that confession for Naruto, she didnt even take in consideration the ammount of womans that loved Sasuke why she would care about Hinata?

Would be the same did Naruto care about Lee loving Sakura?

So what is your take on the current Sakura watching Hinata again? It seems like you're suggesting it leads nowhere, which I'm ok with that answer.

[Sakamaki Izayoi]

So what is your take on the current Sakura watching Hinata again? It seems like you're suggesting it leads nowhere, which I'm ok with that answer.

Why she would bother with Hinata, the fact that annoys her is if she thinks that Hinata can do more things for Naruto than herself, this will only lead for her to think down about herself more and more.
The same thing happened on the Pain arc when she saw Hinata almost being killed because of Naruto.

Hinata pratically "inspired her"(i didnt wanted to use this term) to do something for Naruto, i do not wonder if she saw this scene and for some reason in a matter of 4 chapters she tries to save Naruto sacrificing her life.

Edited by Dαrkrєrsŧ, 09 January 2013 - 05:58 PM.

[sushi.]

So what is your take on the current Sakura watching Hinata again? It seems like you're suggesting it leads nowhere, which I'm ok with that answer.

Last time, I think she came to a realization. lol it looked like a revelation, because she found out the extent of Hinata's feelings for Naruto XD

Because she didn't only see something from Hinata this time - but from Naruto's part too, I believe she doesn't know what to think exactly. It just looks like she's in complete shock, and is about to "be ready" to think about the moment seconds later.