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[Chatte]

I think they're not true. I mean, come on, threatening someone to die for a pairing not happening ?... Don't think that true.
Well, if they were true, I don't think he will listen to them. Simple as that

I know I've heard this on many other forums and I was having a discussion with someone and just wanted to check with you guys, as to me at least, people here have been a pretty good source for information.

[PhenixElite]

True. Kishi do make these "narrative feints" happen in the manga, and he will still make them and we're waiting for "SS moments" ahead. Which I repeat, everyone should expect more "NH moments" and "SS moments".

Though, the words from Hinata in ch.573 doesn't have to be that she will die. It has many meanings. For example, It could mean also that she'll go back to the back ground and won't be the character that she was before her development.

Uhh, yep i also think were getting more NH moments in the nect chapter. SS will also get some as soon as sasuke is back in the picture. But in the end the most developed and best story supporting pairing, called NS will suceed.
For the hinata forshadowing, i think they ment the last page of 615 not 573.

@chatte: As far as i know, there was someone who wrote a letter, that he would burn all his naruto stuff if kishis not going to make NH canon. I dont know about something with suicide, but i wouldnt wonder if something like that happend too, as crazy as some fans are.

[Chatte]

@chatte: As far as i know, there was someone who wrote a letter, that he would burn all his naruto stuff if kishis not going to make NH canon. I dont know about something with suicide, but i wouldnt wonder if something like that happend too, as crazy as some fans are.

Oh, I see, thanks.
I've heard about the death ones and I found it a little bit too far taken. However, considering a certain part of the fandom, wouldn't amaze me, to be honest.
But thanks anyway!

[Bryon_Konoha_Ninja]

I think they're not true. I mean, come on, threatening someone to die for a pairing not happening ?... Don't think that true.
Well, if they were true, I don't think he will listen to them. Simple as that and maybe he did mention them in an interview or something. But, I don't think he'll care about it.

I'll tell ya, T, it could be, but I don't buy it either. Considering people were asinine enough to threaten Michael Bay's life over the Transformers movies....

[T XD]

Uhh, yep i also think were getting more NH moments in the nect chapter. SS will also get some as soon as sasuke is back in the picture. But in the end the most developed and best story supporting pairing, called NS will suceed.
For the hinata forshadowing, i think they ment the last page of 615 not 573.

@chatte: As far as i know, there was someone who wrote a letter, that he would burn all his naruto stuff if kishis not going to make NH canon. I dont know about something with suicide, but i wouldnt wonder if something like that happend too, as crazy as some fans are.

Ch.615, I don't see any meaning of Hinata probably going to die. Nop, it's nothing.

And what ?!!! could it mean suicide ?! I'm sure they don't mean that but... seeing there's really fans who take it so far , I hope they reconsider this.

I'll tell ya, T, it could be, but I don't buy it either. Considering people were asinine enough to threaten Michael Bay's life over the Transformers movies....

You're kidding, right ?
Let's hope that this manga ends with no suicides or murder attempts

Edited by T XD, 07 January 2013 - 02:47 PM.

[Chatte]

Let's not forget someone killed himself over Itachi's death. :|
And guys, I have a question.
Do you think Kishi will use Hinata in order to draw a parallel with Obi/Rin situation? I mean, she's the one who encouraged Naruto's morale now and Madara might see her as a target.
Any ideas?

[Sakamaki Izayoi]

Let's not forget someone killed himself over Itachi's death. :|
And guys, I have a question.
Do you think Kishi will use Hinata in order to draw a parallel with Obi/Rin situation? I mean, she's the one who encouraged Naruto's morale now and Madara might see her as a target.
Any ideas?

It's possible but the thing is will not have the same effect as Sakura dying, because Naruto does not love Hinata.
I think he might target other people, lee, gai, kakashi, sakura, 10-10, shino, shikamaru, ino, choji.

[T XD]

Let's not forget someone killed himself over Itachi's death. :|
And guys, I have a question.
Do you think Kishi will use Hinata in order to draw a parallel with Obi/Rin situation? I mean, she's the one who encouraged Naruto's morale now and Madara might see her as a target.
Any ideas?

Nop, I don't think so. Rin is nothing like Hinata. He can't make that parallel. Plus, I don't think he'll use Hinata a lot from now on like he did in the previous three chapters. Sure, we'll see her fighting with Naruto and getting many panels but not going to happen in that way for Hinata to be paralleled with Rin.

For that to happen, at least Obito should see in her something common with Rin, but there's nothing. Right now, he probably sees her as just a friend for Naruto.

Edited by T XD, 07 January 2013 - 02:56 PM.

[PhenixElite]

Ch.615, I don't see any meaning of Hinata probably going to die. Nop, it's nothing.

And what ?!!! could it mean suicide ?! I'm sure they don't mean that but... seeing there's really fans who take it so far , I hope they reconsider this.


You're kidding, right ?
Let's hope that this manga ends with no suicides or murder attempts

I think its the scene where hinata say that narutos hand makes her feel save, what could be maybe seen in an ironical light.
Yeah i dont really care if hinata dies or not, her character was never interesting to me. Same for neji.

@chatte: Hmm, why not, maybe obito starts to believe that naruto loves hinata and then he kills her, but then naruto says:"Haha idiot that was the wrong one".

But honestly i dont see kishi parralleling hinata to rin, since the are very different. Hinata is not even a medic, also i wouldnt understand the sense in obito killing hinata since shes not the person naruto loves so it would be a very useless scene.
Instead of that i could see kishi making it look like obito wants to attack hinata, but then in realtiy attacks sakura, since she s the one naruto loves.

[Don-kun]

True. Kishi do make these "narrative feints" happen in the manga, and he will still make them and we're waiting for "SS moments" ahead. Which I repeat, everyone should expect more "NH moments" and "SS moments".

Though, the words from Hinata in ch.573 doesn't have to be that she will die. It has many meanings. For example, It could mean also that she'll go back to the back ground and won't be the character that she was before her development.

I'm a fan who liked L.A. Clipper L.A. Lakers and Miami Heat, but now I'm a more focus on Miami Heat, so before the season start I gave people so much info about the Heat with the intention that I want others to find interest on the team, then something negative hipping with the team (469), so I start focusing on the L.A. Lakers and L.A. Clipper for the remaining 51 games but just before the last game and the end of the season I make this great speech about the Miami Heat then tell the Fans that the Heat was always the Team of my choice sorry to give the impression that I was a Clipper ans Lakers fans

What I mean is that what kishi is doing is stupid, if he has no intention of making NH canon then why give it so much focus few chapter before the story ends and then in a sudden change to NS in the end in a even least believable way.

People are always making these comments about Kishi giving more time to NH then he will start to given SS more focus and make the pairing more believable while he keep ignoring all what he develop with NS to them before the Manga ends NS will be the final pairing.
No disrespect people but this is nothing but blind faith, no one knows what is on Kishi's mind and to give two fake pairing all the focus after he left NS in such a bad position to then make NS a reality doesn't sound believable at all.

NH will be a pairing or not be a pairing in the next few chapter, if it doesn't become a pairing before Team 7 centric start again then it will never be, if Kishi keep focusing on the pairing then fifteen or twenty before the end when we get to the last battle he start focusing on SS it would be a clear picture that Hinata already has her place besides Naruto and after the fight ends Sakura will have her place besides Sasuke.

Kishi said back in June that he needed 18 more months 72 week at this moment there are only 48 or less more week pending.
What am trying to say is that we don't need any more trolling this late in the game, he need to start giving the character their respected closure. If we get more NH and SS development then the Manga will end NH and SS, if this meant that Kishi will give a closure to all the Rookies and make them shine then this NH stuff is just her closure.

[Sakamaki Izayoi]

I'm a fan who liked L.A. Clipper L.A. Lakers and Miami Heat, but now I'm a more focus on Miami Heat, so before the season start I gave people so much info about the Heat with the intention that I want others to find interest on the team, then something negative hipping with the team (469), so I start focusing on the L.A. Lakers and L.A. Clipper for the remaining 51 games but just before the last game and the end of the season I make this great speech about the Miami Heat then tell the Fans that the Heat was always the Team of my choice sorry to give the impression that I was a Clipper ans Lakers fans

What I mean is that what kishi is doing is stupid, if he has no intention of making NH canon then why give it so much focus few chapter before the story ends and then in a sudden change to NS in the end in a even least believable way.

People are always making these comments about Kishi giving more time to NH then he will start to given SS more focus and make the pairing more believable while he keep ignoring all what he develop with NS to them before the Manga ends NS will be the final pairing.
No disrespect people but this is nothing but blind faith, no one knows what is on Kishi's mind and to give two fake pairing all the focus after he left NS in such a bad position to then make NS a reality doesn't sound believable at all.

NH will be a pairing or not be a pairing in the next few chapter, if it doesn't become a pairing before Team 7 centric start again then it will never be, if Kishi keep focusing on the pairing then fifteen or twenty before the end when we get to the last battle he start focusing on SS it would be a clear picture that Hinata already has her place besides Naruto and after the fight ends Sakura will have her place besides Sasuke.

Kishi said back in June that he needed 18 more months 72 week at this moment there are only 48 or less more week pending.
What am trying to say is that we don't need any more trolling this late in the game, he need to start giving the character their respected closure. If we get more NH and SS development then the Manga will end NH and SS, if this meant that Kishi will give a closure to all the Rookies and make them shine then this NH stuff is just her closure.

Do you know the meaning ofr trolling right?
If this scene with Hinata ends with no romantic intentions from Naruto it's not trolling it will prove that it was just about hinata's development, trolling depends on the expectatives of who's reading, look at Sakura did she troll when it was shown that she still loved Sasuke?
I didnt see her "fall in love" with Naruto,if kishi pulls of Naruto would be ridiculous because NS would be forced, she has no reasons to fall in love with Naruto, i dont want to her fall in love with Naruto just because he's a good person it's a stupid reason. She has feelings for Naruto but she didnt fall in love with him so it's not trolling, Naruto still loves Sakura if he shows something different then it's trolling.
Some people just say that Hinata's development is NH until now we only get Hinata's development, Naruto didnt hold her hand with romantic intentions and you know of, even he thanked Neji too.

If he keeps this way it's just about the NH who's overreacting towards the scene.

Edited by Dαrkrєrsŧ, 07 January 2013 - 03:20 PM.

[Chatte]

It's possible but the thing is will not have the same effect as Sakura dying, because Naruto does not love Hinata.
I think he might target other people, lee, gai, kakashi, sakura, 10-10, shino, shikamaru, ino, choji.

Nop, I don't think so. Rin is nothing like Hinata. He can't make that parallel. Plus, I don't think he'll use Hinata a lot from now on like he did in the previous three chapters. Sure, we'll see her fighting with Naruto and getting many panels but not going to happen in that way for Hinata to be paralleled with Rin.

For that to happen, at least Obito should see in her something common with Rin, but there's nothing. Right now, he probably sees her as just a friend for Naruto.

I think its the scene where hinata say that narutos hand makes her feel save, what could be maybe seen in an ironical light.
Yeah i dont really care if hinata dies or not, her character was never interesting to me. Same for neji.

@chatte: Hmm, why not, maybe obito starts to believe that naruto loves hinata and then he kills her, but then naruto says:"Haha idiot that was the wrong one".

But honestly i dont see kishi parralleling hinata to rin, since the are very different. Hinata is not even a medic, also i wouldnt understand the sense in obito killing hinata since shes not the person naruto loves so it would be a very useless scene.
Instead of that i could see kishi making it look like obito wants to attack hinata, but then in realtiy attacks sakura, since she s the one naruto loves.

I agree with you guys that she is nothing like Rin, however, she was the one who encouraged Naruto and the way Naruto said to her that she has always been by his side Obito/Madara could interpret this in a certain way, even if we know that Sakura is the one he loves. In order to make the parallel with Sakura, Obito/Madara will have to know the fact that Sakura is the one Naruto knows, but they don't. See what I mean? Am I making any sense?
After all, Naruto will go somewhat beserk even though she's just a friend, we've seen him going beserk for his friends before.
What I'm saying is that I'm somewhat afraid of the fact that people will jump over to conclusions again, or it may mean something coming from Kishi's part.
Dunno what to say, to be honest, was just an idea going through my mind.

[Gravenimage]

Guys, I wanted to ask you a thing... How true is that thing with Kishi receiving threatening letter of deaths if he won't make NH cannon? And if it's true, can it be found somewhere?
Thanks for your help in advance!

It's truly sad but there some hardcore fans who would do it, like VJ.

[Sakamaki Izayoi]

It's truly sad but there some hardcore fans who would do it, like VJ.

Like he would care he will stop working as a mangaka he will pass more time with his family, even if they stop buying Naruto's stuff he would not even care he already made money.

If i was kishi i would just send a letter back with the message "here is an extra life take it, kill yourself and try again".

Edited by Dαrkrєrsŧ, 07 January 2013 - 03:28 PM.

[T XD]

I'm a fan who liked L.A. Clipper L.A. Lakers and Miami Heat, but now I'm a more focus on Miami Heat, so before the season start I gave people so much info about the Heat with the intention that I want others to find interest on the team, then something negative hipping with the team (469), so I start focusing on the L.A. Lakers and L.A. Clipper for the remaining 51 games but just before the last game and the end of the season I make this great speech about the Miami Heat then tell the Fans that the Heat was always the Team of my choice sorry to give the impression that I was a Clipper ans Lakers fans

What I mean is that what kishi is doing is stupid, if he has no intention of making NH canon then why give it so much focus few chapter before the story ends and then in a sudden change to NS in the end in a even least believable way.

People are always making these comments about Kishi giving more time to NH then he will start to given SS more focus and make the pairing more believable while he keep ignoring all what he develop with NS to them before the Manga ends NS will be the final pairing.
No disrespect people but this is nothing but blind faith, no one knows what is on Kishi's mind and to give two fake pairing all the focus after he left NS in such a bad position to then make NS a reality doesn't sound believable at all.

NH will be a pairing or not be a pairing in the next few chapter, if it doesn't become a pairing before Team 7 centric start again then it will never be, if Kishi keep focusing on the pairing then fifteen or twenty before the end when we get to the last battle he start focusing on SS it would be a clear picture that Hinata already has her place besides Naruto and after the fight ends Sakura will have her place besides Sasuke.

Kishi said back in June that he needed 18 more months 72 week at this moment there are only 48 or less more week pending.
What am trying to say is that we don't need any more trolling this late in the game, he need to start giving the character their respected closure. If we get more NH and SS development then the Manga will end NH and SS, if this meant that Kishi will give a closure to all the Rookies and make them shine then this NH stuff is just her closure.

I get what you mean and that's right, he doesn't have to do this but Kishi, like many other mangaka, choose this way in their writing. That's all I can say since he wants it that way. It's not blind faith cause it's something that happened in other manga as well. I don't like this way either, and I hope he stops this after this arc but there's no confirmation if he'll stop "narrative feint" or not.

I think its the scene where hinata say that narutos hand makes her feel save, what could be maybe seen in an ironical light.
Yeah i dont really care if hinata dies or not, her character was never interesting to me. Same for neji.

@chatte: Hmm, why not, maybe obito starts to believe that naruto loves hinata and then he kills her, but then naruto says:"Haha idiot that was the wrong one".

But honestly i dont see kishi parralleling hinata to rin, since the are very different. Hinata is not even a medic, also i wouldnt understand the sense in obito killing hinata since shes not the person naruto loves so it would be a very useless scene.
Instead of that i could see kishi making it look like obito wants to attack hinata, but then in realtiy attacks sakura, since she s the one naruto loves.

Ironic indeed and by the way, bolded, that would be interesting from Naruto

[Chatte]

It's truly sad but there some hardcore fans who would do it, like VJ.

Though about that too. Just heard of him, never came in contact, actually... God forbid that!

Like he would care he will stop working as a mangaka he will pass more time with his family, even if they stop buying Naruto's stuff he would not even care he already made money.

If i was kishi i would just send a letter back with the message "here is an extra life take it, kill yourself and try again".

Oh,lol,that'd be funny!
I know it's mean, but still funny.

Edited by Chatte, 07 January 2013 - 03:34 PM.

[Gravenimage]

All I know is a field trip at YT especially on sawyer's 615 video review. Sawyer himself claimed NH is canon.

[六道仙人]

didn't he tick some NH fans off who sent to him letters where they're bashing Sakura during the jump festa of two years ago?

[Chatte]

All I know is a field trip at YT especially on sawyer's 615 video review. Sawyer himself claimed NH is canon.

I used to watch some of sawyer's videos, until I saw he's biased. Then I left. Not before telling him that for a person who claims he's unbiased, he's biased as hell.

didn't he tick some NH fans off who sent to him letters where they're bashing Sakura during the jump festa of two years ago?

Of that, I know. It's about that "You say Hinata, Hinata, I say she's not Hinata!"

Edited by Chatte, 07 January 2013 - 03:40 PM.

[PhenixElite]

Kishi said back in June that he needed 18 more months 72 week at this moment there are only 48 or less more week pending.
What am trying to say is that we don't need any more trolling this late in the game, he need to start giving the character their respected closure. If we get more NH and SS development then the Manga will end NH and SS, if this meant that Kishi will give a closure to all the Rookies and make them shine then this NH stuff is just her closure.

i need to correct you there. Kishi dindnt say that he needed18 month more. He said:" one of my co-workers asked me how long the manga is going to take. I answered him about 1 year and a half, but now i think its going take longer then that."

This means the manga is going to last at least for 2 more years. We even get the next movie july 2014 and that also doesnt have to mean that the manga already end there. So theres still a lot of time left.

About you qusetion why kishi should start giving hints to NH and SS:
There are two reasons. The first one is fanservice, the second one is because characters like hinata need to be resolved. Normally the feelings of a side charcter can be ignored, but hinatas has a lot of fans so i think thats one reason why hinatas charcter is going to be resolved.

Kishi just needs to make this fanservice if he wants to keep everyone reading till the end.