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[Dreamer]

^ um, i think the person you are referring to is the previous 3rd espada, Neliel XD

No, I was referring to Tia Harribel, as long as Neliel has a serious case of amnesia she will always remain as a wondering child.

Oh yes. Trying to convince a soldier that serving her master is wrong, and she'll immediately flock to the good side. :zaru

It's a fanfiction idea, and personally doesn't suit Halibel. I can see Grimmjow maybe helping, but Halibel is out of the question.

I'm always thinking about FanFic ideas. Yeah, your probably right, since Grimmy and Ichigo have that rival thing going on.

Edited by Uzumakikage, 21 August 2009 - 08:04 PM.

[Miss Soupy]

^ What i meant was, Neliel is basically the 'espada helping ichigo' that you were describing. Harribel doesn't have the personality to ever help Ichigo, she is one of the most loyal to Aizen. Also, she and Ichigo haven't even met before~

[Dreamer]

Speaking of Neliel i can't recall whatever happened to her, does anyone remember were her whereabouts are now?

The next upcoming chapters should get even better with Shinji taking on Aizen, (probably an illusion and will wind up fighting Gin) the 2 chibi's of bleach with Lisa on Halibel, Shinsui/Ukitake on Stark, the former friend/master fight with Tousen, and Team Ichigo on Yammzilla back at Hueco Mundo. I'm thinking their may be a few panels of Team Ichigo back at Hueco Mundo taking on Yammzilla, since it's been such a long time. Looking forward to seeing Vasto Lorde Ichigo again.

Edited by Uzumakikage, 23 August 2009 - 01:51 AM.

[Miss Soupy]

Speaking of Neliel i can't recall whatever happened to her, does anyone remember were her whereabouts are now?

The next upcoming chapters should get even better with Shinji taking on Aizen, (probably an illusion and will wind up fighting Gin) the 2 chibi's of bleach with Lisa on Halibel, Shinsui/Ukitake on Stark, the former friend/master fight with Tousen, and Team Ichigo on Yammzilla back at Hueco Mundo. I'm thinking their may be a few panels of Team Ichigo back at Hueco Mundo taking on Yammzilla, since it's been such a long time. Looking forward to seeing Vasto Lorde Ichigo again.

Nel was last seen with Kenpachi and Yachiru~ And isn't Rose and Love taking on Stark?

[Dreamer]

Yeah, you're right, Rose and Love are taking on Stark. I was thinking of the before chapters and totally forgot about the latest.

[KungFuTruffle]

Hachi, like everyone else has said, is badass. Using your own rotting arm as a deadly weapon is epic. And I'm glad Barragan is dead. Cool powers, but he was pretty one note. He just kept screaming about being god and unstoppable bla bla bla.

On the other hand, I'd like Harribal and Stark to survive. The don't seem evil, so much as very attached to their ideals. Unlike Barragan, who was freakin' evil AND nutso.

[Dreamer]

Bleach 371 Spoilers

Bleach 371 Spoiler [ブリーチ 371 --Click here to view--

"]credits : Nja@2ch
verification : confirmed

タイトルとかは…

王様の回想から
かつて王だった王様いきなり３人のオールバック。糸目。盲目
が参上
王　おお～暇で暇でしょうがない所によくきた～お前らが来なかったら
　　自分の軍を２つに分けて戦争でもしようとしてた所だ～
オールバック　この刀をみてくれ
王　　　　　　なんだ～？
オールバック　ここから俺についていけば～色々かえてやるぞ～
王　　　　　　貴様の作る世界などいらん～
オールバック　あなたの世界はもうこんなですよ？
糸目と盲目に部下たちを一瞬で瞬殺されている世界になり
王服従＞＜
しかし　オールバックを殺すのはワシ常にお前の命を狙ってやる～
　　　　俺が王なんだ～お前を殺すのはこのワシ！！！　アイゼンソウスケ！！

と絶命後ろで消滅してる王様に見向きもしないオールバック
スターク　Ｎｏ２が死んでも一言も無しか…
ハリベル　…
スターク　やるせないね～　　弔い合戦じゃないですがこちらもそろそろはじめますか～

っていった所で完です　あんま進まないね；；


English translation

Title is something like…

The King’s Reflections

Aizen, Gin, and Tousen visit Barragan.

Barragan: You come so often you must have too much free time. If you didn’t come you might have divided your own army in two and tried to wage war.

Aizen: Look at this sword.
Barragan: What?

Aizen: If you follow me from now on I’ll change many things for you.
Barragan: You didn’t create this world!
Aizen: Your world is already this way.

Gin and Tousen quickly kill his subordinates.

Barragan submits.
However, he swears he will always try to kill Aizen
　　　
“I am the King! I will be the one to kill you, Aizen Sousuke!!”

He dies but Aizen completely ignores him.
Stark: He doesn’t say a word even at the death of #2.

Harribel:…

Stark: What a downer. This isn’t a battle for revenge, but am I finally going to begin too?
It ends there. The story doesn’t progress much.

Another spoiler from nja

と絶命後ろで消滅してる王様に見向きもしないオールバック

スターク　Ｎｏ２が死んでも一言も無しか…
ハリベル　…

スターク　やるせないね～　　弔い合戦じゃないですがこちらもそろそろはじめますか～

English translation

Barragan dies without looking back at Aizen.
Stark and Halibel watch No. 2’s death without a word.
Stark says something here.

—-
すまん
Sorry.
刀をみせられ多分そのまま糸目と盲目は大人しくしているんだが
すでに術に係り裏では虐殺が始まっており
Gin and Tousen were shown the sword and maybe that’s how they are obedient. And maybe they were already under its influence when they began the slaughter.
勧誘をきょひった時に　お前の世界はもうこんなんだよと　術を解かれ
It is when Barragan refuses Aizen’s invitation that Aizen says, “Your world is already like this,” and reveals its technique.
部下がみじん切りやらで死んでる元の世界に戻った　
The subordinates were sliced up and killed, and then they returned to their original world.
こんな感じですかね
That’s my impression.

Bleach 371 Spoilers are out, It seems that Stark and Harribel could seek revenge at Aizen and wind up joining the Shinigami. It also appears that Aizens Zanpakotou can be used to control minds as well unless they're referring to a different sword.

Edited by Uzumakikage, 25 August 2009 - 07:50 PM.

[Miss Soupy]

I don't think Aizen's sword can control minds. As Barragan focused on Aizen's sword, Aizen created an illusion of he, gin and tousen standing there. Meanwhile the real gin and tousen were slaughtering his army. By the time Barragan was released from the illusion, he had no choice but to give up. Aizen had already won before Barragan realized it. Which is freaky awesome, but I hate Aizen even more :zaru

Also, I'm pretty sure Harribel and Starrk realize, when all is said and done, they are merely pawns to Aizen. Doesn't mean they have to like it tho *shrugs*

[True]

Godddamn it why does Aizen have to be so...so...damn awesome?!

[Denim88]

Hmm...

I smell an uprising

[Dreamer]

Hmm...

I smell an uprising

Yeah, Judging by the way Stark starts to question himself at the end of the spoiler, It seems like he could seek revenge at Aizen and maybe Harribel could do the same as well.

Edited by Uzumakikage, 27 August 2009 - 02:36 AM.

[True]

OMFG I CAME! --Click here to view--

This filler is now beyond epic.

[Dreamer]

OMFG I CAME! --Click here to view--

This filler is now beyond epic.

So, Ichigo needs help from his inner hollow to help stop Zangetsu after Murimosa released the Zanpaktou spirits.

[Denim88]

FFFFFFFFF!!!!!

Why am I not watching this right now??? Unacceptable!!!

Shirosaki FTW!!!

[Dreamer]

Naruto Fan/ Soul Society Spoiler Thread

Bleach 371 Full Spoiler Script --Click here to view--

part 1 of the long summary by sheetz @ FLOL

ブリーチ BLEACH ネタバレ 371.Kingdom of Hollows
少年ジャンプ 2009年40号
バラガンの体が朽ちていく様を見ながら　ハッチは言った
Hacchi watches as Barragan's body rots away.
ハッチ：「･･･不思議に思っていたのデス
Hacchi: "...That was strange.
　　　　　彼の能力に触れたものは皆　老いて朽ち果てて塵となる
Everything touched by his aging ability rots and turns to rubbish.
　　　　　ならばなぜ　骨の姿である彼は塵とならないのか？
So why didn't his skeleton also turn to rubbish?
　　　　　そこで　仮説を立てました
As for that I've forumated a hypothesis.
　　　　　〝彼は自らの体表に　自らの力を退ける
"The surface of his body repels his own ability.
　　　　　　何らかの力を張り巡らせている〟と
He uses some type of ability to cover it.
　　　　　それならば
That being the case
　　　　　普段力の触れることの無い体の内部に　彼の力を送り込めば――･･･
If his power is transported to inside his body, which normally is not in contact with that ability...
　　　　　而して　読みは当たっていまシタ
And so I read the situation correctly.
　　　　　彼もまた　死を恐れ　老いを遠ざけんとする
　　　　　一つの小さな命に過ぎなかったのです」
He also feared death, and did not pass through a small life trying to keep away from aging.
<<<　バラガン　今際の際にて･･･　>>>
Barragan, on the verge of death:
バラガン：「許さん許さん　許さん許さん
Barragan: "I won't forgive you, I won't forgive you.
　　　　　　蟻共が蟻共が　蟻共が蟻共が
You are ants, you are ants
　　　　　　蟻･･･共･･･が･･･」
You...are...ants"
自らの〝死の息吹〟により　体が朽ちていく死の間際
バラガンは思い出していた
As he dies he has a recollection:
なぜ　虚圏の王である自分が　十刃になったのか
"Why did I, the King of HM, become an Espada?
なぜ　藍染の配下に甘んじるのか
Why was I resigned to being one of Aizen's subordinates?
そして　藍染に対する憤怒の誓いとは････
And why do I so deeply resent Aizen...
ガラー･･･ン　ガラー･･･ン
Clang Clang
月明かりに照らされ　そそり立つ巨大な塔の鐘が　音を立てた
Under the moonlight a large tower's bell rings excitedly.
塔の真下に高台が作られ　
On a mound directly beneath the tower,
そこには　虚圏の王：バラガンの座るイスが用意されていた
is the throne prepared for the King of HM, Barragan.
そのイスから見た眺めは　真ん中の通路を挟み
両側を家来達がずらりと並び　皆　王バラガンに対し頭を垂れていた
From the throne we see two rows of servants and a pathway down the middle.
The servants are bowing their heads to Barragan.
バラガン：「･･･退屈じゃな
Barragan: "...How boring
　　　　　　攻め入る敵を持たぬ軍ほど　意味の無いものはない
There's no use having an army without an invading enemy.
　　　　　　そうは思わんか　お前たち」
Don't you all agree?"
家来達：「･･･････････」
Servants: .......
バラガン：「･･･問うたところで　是以外の言葉が　返ってくる訳も無しか」
Barragan: "Even with this question that's all you can answer?"
ドォン
BANG!
家来達：「何だ!?」
Servants: What!?
家来達：「ガガメルが　何者かに殺られた!!」」
Servants: Gargamel has been killed by someone!!!
バラガン：「･･･ほお？」
Barragan: What?
そして　巨大な地響きと共に　通路の奥から現れたのは　
藍染　市丸　東仙だった
The earth rumbles and Aizen, Gin and Tousen appear at the end of the pathway.
バラガンの家来は　突然の侵入者に襲い掛かったが
Barragan's servants rush to attack them,
あっけなく　東仙に斬られていった
they are taken down by Tousen.
藍染達は　ゆっくりとした足取りで　バラガンに近づいていった
そして
The 3 walk down slowly towards Barragan.
藍染：「･･･お初にお目にかかる　君が虚圏の王だね」
Aizen: "...It's a pleasure to meet you. I take it you are the King of Hueco Mundo?
バラガン：「いかにも　そう言うお前らは何者だ？
Barragan: "Indeed, and who might you be?
　　　　　　仮面の無い所を見ると　虚じゃァないな
Seeing you don't have a mask, maybe you're a human without a hollow?
　　　　　　人間か？　それとも死神か？」
Or perhaps a shinigami?"
藍染は「くだらない」と言わんばかりの顔をし　何も答えなかった
Aizen makes a face as if to dismiss that, but doesn't say anything.
バラガン：「･･･フン　まぁどちらでもいい
Barragan: "Humph, well it doesn't matter.
　　　　　　お前が今日　現れなければ　ワシは自らの軍を2つに割って
　　　　　　殺し合わせようと思っておった
If you hadn't arrived, I was thinking about dividing my army into two and having them kill each other.
　　　　　　とりあえずは〝ようこそ〟と言っておこうか
　　　　　　我が城「虚夜宮」へ」
I suppose I should first welcome you to my castle, the "Hollow Night Palace"
東仙：「面白いな　屋根も壁も無いこの場所が　〝城〟か」
Tousen: "Funny. This 'castle' has neither roof nor walls.
バラガン：「屋根など要らぬ　王であるワシにとって
　　　　　　この虚圏の空全てが　我が城の屋根だ」
Barragan: "There's no need for a room. As far as I'm concerned
the entire sky of HM is my roof."
Quote:
part 2

藍染：「止すんだ要そんな事より話をしよう　虚圏の王
Aizen: "I have something more important to ask you, King of HM.
　　　　僕の刀を見てくれないか　この　〝鏡花水月〟を」
Could you please look at my sword, Kyoukasuigetsu"
そう言い　藍染は鞘から刀を抜き　目の高さでかざして見せた
He pulls the sword out of his scabbard and holds it at eye level.
バラガン：「･･･････････？　･･･何の真似だ」
Barragan:" .........? What sort of pretense is this?"
藍染：「一つ　質問がしたい　虚圏の王
Aizen: "I have one question I'd like to ask you, King of HM
　　　　君は　今の自らに満ち足りているか？」
Are you satisfied with yourself as you are now?"
バラガン：「･･･何？」
Barragan: "...What?"
藍染：「〝あるべき世界と違う〟と　感じた事は無いか？
Aizen: "Don't you feel the world is different than it should be?
　　　　更なる高みへ　昇りつめようとは思わないか？
Don't you think about going to a higher place?
　　　　手を貸そう　私に従え　
Lend me your hand and follow me.
　　　　そうすれば更なる力を　新たな世界を与えよう」
If you do that I'll present to you more strength and a new world.
バラガン：「･･･ク･･････
Barragan: .....Ku....
　　　　　　フハハハハハハハハ　滑稽　滑稽
Bwahahahahahahaha Absurd! Hilarious!
　　　　　　新たな世界？　更なる高み？　笑わせるなよ蟻が!!!
A new world? Greater strength? Don't make me laugh, ant!!!
　　　　　　このワシこそが虚圏の王!!　ワシを超える高みなど存在せん!!!
I'm the King of HM!! There isn't anything higher than me!!
　　　　　　このワシが切り開くものの他に　新たな世界など存在せん!!!
There's no new world besides what I slice through!!!
　　　　　　やれ！　お前たち!!　この不遜な蟻共を叩き潰せ!!!」
Now! You all!! Crush these arrogant ants!!!"
バラガンの命令により　家来達は立ち上がり　藍染達に襲い掛かろうとした
The servants obey Barragan's orders and try to attack Aizen and the others.
その瞬間
At that instant
藍染：「砕けろ　〝鏡花水月〟」
Aizen: "Smash, Kyoukasuigetsu"
すると　バラガンの家来達が　切り刻まれ周囲は血に染まっていった
Barragan's servants are sliced up and blood is everywhere.
一瞬の戦慄の出来事に　驚いたバラガンは声を上げた
Barragan is shocked at the horrible moment.
バラガン：「･･･何だ･･････　これは･･･････!?」
Barragan: "...What...is this....!?"
藍染：「これが　君の世界だよ」
Aizen: "This is my world."
バラガン：「貴様･･･!!」
Barragan: "Why you...!!"
藍染：「･･･皮肉なものだね　虚圏の王
Aizen:''...It's ironic, King of HM
　　　　そうして武器を構える　巨大で黒い君の姿は　死神によく似ているよ」
if you hold you weapon and wear black, you look very much like a shigami yourself!"
バラガン：「ほざけ!!!!!!!」
Barragan: How dare you!!!
そうしてバラガンは自らに架した
He then says to himself,
貴様を殺す
I will kill you.
このワシの手で必ず
It will definitely be by my hand.
このワシに力を与えた事を　後悔するがいい
You will regret presenting me with this power.
ワシは王
I am the King.
ワシは神
I am God.
永久に死なぬ
I will never die.
永劫貴様を狙い続けるのだ
I will continue to target you till eternity.
藍染　惣右介
Aizen Sousuke.
バラガンが自らの老いにより　自らの体が塵になった瞬間
スタークは呟いた
Stark mutters as he watches Barragan turn to rubbish.
スターク：「№2が死んで　ひと言も無しかよ･･･
　　　　　　･･･やる瀬ねえなあ」
Stark: "Even with #2's death he doesn't say a word...How sad.
スタークは眼下にいる　ラヴとローズに向って言った
Stark looks down at Love and Rose.
スターク：「･･･弔い合戦てガラじゃ　無えんだがな」
Stark: "...This isn't a battle for revenge."
バラガンの死に＃1が立つ！
With Barragan dead #1 makes a stand!
空座町が更なる朱に染まる･･･!!
Karakura town will be covered in more blood!!
ブリーチ BLEACH 372へ続く
Continued in Bleach 372

スターク：「･･･弔い合戦てガラじゃ　無えんだがな」
Stark: "...This isn't a battle for revenge."
バラガンの死に＃1が立つ！
With Barragan dead #1 makes a stand!
空座町が更なる朱に染まる･･･!!
Karakura town will be covered in more blood!!

I guess the first spoiler was translated wrong, it seems Stark wants to go on a rampage and kill the people of Karakura Town and Shinigami. What an idiot, I thought he finally realized that Aizen was the source of trouble and was going to take his anger out on him rather than killing innocent people of Karakura Town. Stark should of realized that all the years Barragan was king at his kingdom/throne "Los Noches" that head captain Yamamoto never tried to kill Barragan as ruler of Hueco Mundo and all of a sudden Aizen comes along and wants all the Espada/Arrancars to go fight an take over Soul Society.

Edited by Uzumakikage, 27 August 2009 - 01:49 PM.

[Miss Soupy]

I guess the first spoiler was translated wrong, it seems Stark wants to go on a rampage and kill the people of Karakura Town and Shinigami. What an idiot, I thought he finally realized that Aizen was the source of trouble and was going to take his anger out on him rather than killing innocent people of Karakura Town. Stark should of realized that all the years Barragan was king at his kingdom/throne "Los Noches" that head captain Yamamoto never tried to kill Barragan as ruler of Hueco Mundo and all of a sudden Aizen comes along and wants all the Espada/Arrancars to go fight an take over Soul Society.

You seriously don't think Starrk and Harribel and all the espada know that Aizen is using them? Please, I would give them more credit than that. They know exactly what kind of man Aizen is. Ulquiorra himself says that to Aizen, it is all just a game. The question that remains is why do each of them personally choose to fight for him? Most of them don't seem to care about Aizen's dream of taking over soul society, but instead it looks more like they were 'given an offer they couldn't refuse'.

[Dreamer]

http://www.onemanga.com/Bleach/371/

Bleach 371 "Kingdom of Hollowes" is out!

It's nice to see how the whole conflict started with Barragan being king of Hueco Mundo, sitting on his throne "Los Noches", and Aizen coming along and taking over.

Edited by Uzumakikage, 28 August 2009 - 03:03 PM.

[True]

Aizen's ability is ridiculously broken. All he has to do his draw his sword and you automatically in his illusion. The only way to possibly defeat him is by relying on your instincts (this could be how Ichigo defeats him?) since you can't trust your senses. Even so...this is just his shikai and its horribly haxxed; his bankai must be reality augmenting

Poory Barry at the end throwing his axe in a futile attempt to get back at Aizen. Stark's comment on him not even sparring a single word for his number 2 along with Harribel and his expression really brings the cold truth about Aizen and his goals. Everyone is just a pawn in his game.

[Miss Soupy]

I feel like Barragan's death is only the beginning of the pity we will feel for the espada by the end. If Kubo could make me feel sorry for someone as arrogant as Barry, then I shudder to think how he will make us feel over Harribel and Starrk. Harribel rules over sacrifice, which makes me think she was forced in a position to protect someone (could she possibly even tie in to Nel? who knows), and her death, I believe, will come about due to sacrifice. With Starrk, Kubo has begun the lone wolf characterization already with 'i hate loneliness but it loves me'. He is already pitiable for his reluctance to fight, even more so that he shows a sense of comradeship with the other espada (first Arroneirro, then Barragon), a feeling that I don't believe he received in return. Plus he has the little Lilinette to look out for, a piece of himself that is like his innocence incarnate. Gah, emotions are going to be running high with these next battles, I believe.

[Dreamer]

Is it just me or did anyone else notice that former king Barragan's female assistant looked like a Vizard, If so then maybe there's a chance she could make appearance again.

Female assistant with Barragan could be a Vizard --Click here to view--

If she was indeed a Vizard and was still alive it could open the window to another future plot.