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#801 Nate River

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Posted 16 December 2009 - 03:48 AM

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Think of it this way. Seven turnovers and they lost by 15. Should have been far worse.

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Posted 16 December 2009 - 11:05 PM

QUOTE (Nate River @ Dec 15 2009, 09:48 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

Think of it this way. Seven turnovers and they lost by 15. Should have been far worse.

No cause a loss is a loss. Cardinals are supposed to look elite, not get beat by our sub .500 rivals.

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Posted 21 December 2009 - 01:22 AM

Final scores

Patriots 17 Bills 10
Cardinals 31 Lions 24
Falcons 10 Jets 7
Titans 27 Dolphins 24 (Overtime)
Texans 16 Rams 13
Browns 41 Chiefs 34
Raiders 20 Broncos 19
Chargers 27 Bengals 24
Ravens 31 Bears 7
Buccaneers 24 Seahawks 7
Eagles 27 49ers 13
Steelers 37 Packers 36

Defense played better, Mcnabb was sloppy, and Desean was Desean. Eagles better win these last two games, emotional game against Dawk and Denver coming up. And thanks to Philly, the Cardinals have won the NFC West for the 2nd straight year, congrats Whirly.

Edited by Illmatic, 21 December 2009 - 01:51 AM.

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Posted 21 December 2009 - 04:19 AM

If Matt Moore isn't careful, he might just be the Panthers' QB next season. Favre once again is aging and the vikings are becoming one dimensional. 1 more loss and the eagles can get the 2nd seed

Edited by Mik3, 21 December 2009 - 04:21 AM.

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Posted 21 December 2009 - 04:37 AM

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If Matt Moore isn't careful, he might just be the Panthers' QB next season. Favre once again is aging and the vikings are becoming one dimensional. 1 more loss and the eagles can get the 2nd seed

That's what they ought to do.

Where the hell has this team been. They destroyed the Vikings on both sides of the ball. Though, it could be fluke.

Even if the Panthers win out, they still don't make the playoffs. They should play Moore, let Delhomme rest and, if he plays well, let Moore compete for the job next year. And if good one is available in the second round, draft a QB. Or, possibly a DT/DE, since I'm not sure they're keeping Peppers. Moore could be long term answer since he's young, but I'm nowhere near convinced, yet.

But, this team is clearly better with Moore as the QB right now. Even if he hadn't hung almost 300 yards on the Vikings, he's thrown 4 TD's and hasn't been picked off in the last two games. He's been far more effective at getting the ball to Smith than Delhomme has this year.

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Posted 21 December 2009 - 04:53 AM

QUOTE (Nate River @ Dec 20 2009, 11:37 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

Well the big thing he deserves credit for is his composure. Facing perhaps the best front four in the league he stayed calm and didnt force things. And he also believed in his receivers abilty to make plays. Jake gets either too scared or he just throws it up for a prayer

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Posted 21 December 2009 - 03:55 PM

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When he choked against the Cardinals, it felt like he spent the whole game trying to make up for previous turnovers. It still feels like that: like he has to continually make for the fact that he keeps screwing up so he ends up trying too hard and screwing up more.

It's too early to bet solely on Moore, and it's only one game, but the really do need to see what they have. Look what happens when they have something more than the anemic passing game they've had all year. Even Stewart got 100 yards on them.

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Posted 22 December 2009 - 10:24 PM

Week 16 Power Rankings

1. Indianapolis Colts Next Game: VS. New York Jets
2. New Orleans Saints Next Game: VS. Tampa Bay Buccaneers
3. San Diego Chargers Next Game: @ Tennessee Titans (Christmas Night)
4. Minnesota Vikings Next Game: @ Chicago Bears (Monday Night Football)
5. Philadelphia Eagles Next Game: VS. Denver Broncos
6. Arizona Cardinals Next Game: VS. St. Louis Cardinals
7. Cincinnati Bengals Next Game: VS. Kansas City Chiefs
8. Green Bay Packers Next Game: VS. Seattle Seahawks
9. New England Patriots Next Game: @ Jacksonville Jaguars
10. Dallas Cowboys Next Game: @ Washington Redskins

Football on Christmas, yay!

Pretty much every game is important, so enjoy the chaos.

Edited by Illmatic, 30 December 2009 - 04:29 AM.

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Posted 28 December 2009 - 04:59 AM

Final scores

Falcons 31 Bills 3
Bengals 17 Cheifs 10
Browns 23 Raiders 9
Packers 48 Seahawks 10
Steelers 23 Ravens 20
Texans 27 Dolphins 20
Patriots 35 Jaguars 7
Buccaneers 20 Saints 17 (Overtime)
Panthers 41 Giants 9
49ers 20 Lions 6
Cardinals 31 Rams 10
Jets 29 Colts 15
Eagles 30 Broncos 27
Cowboys 17 Redskins 0

The Eagles better beat Dallas, no point in winning Today if they can't do that. I still miss Dawk

but it is a business.

Edited by Illmatic, 28 December 2009 - 05:00 AM.

#810 Nate River

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Posted 28 December 2009 - 06:19 PM

Okay.

We are mathematically elimanited. Then we whip the 11-2 Vikings and follow that up by utterly destroying the Giants 41-9 in the final game of their stadium in a must win game for them, but, statstically speaking, meaningless game for us.

It is both a great cause for hope (proves how good we can be and that Moore may be a solution to our quaterbacking woes) and great frustration (imagine if this team had around for even half the season, we'd be in the playoffs).

Oh well, let's hope it carries in the game against the Saints and 2010.

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Posted 29 December 2009 - 05:35 AM

Well True the sweetness who is Matt Moore wasn't QB yet, But I enjoyed the Gnats getting eliminated in their last game at Giants stadium. Good luck with the Saints.

OMG Vikes LOST!

PHILLY HAS 2nd Seed!

BEAT DALLAS BEAT DALLAS BEAT DALLAS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Posted 29 December 2009 - 05:41 AM

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We better friggin win sunday, OR I'LL PEG THEM WITH SNOWBALLS MYSELF, LOCK IT UP PHILLY.

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Posted 29 December 2009 - 05:54 AM

Chargers in my opinion are the best team in football right now. Great QB with a stellar offense, and a pretty solid defense. That's one team I wouldn't want to face in the post season. Saints and Vikings are both sliding right now, and the Colts are pulling the same thing they did in '05. They don't look like the top tiers in their respective conferences. Packers and Patriots are the two teams in each conference that I believe could make a big difference come play off time.

AFC: Chargers/Patriots

NFC: Eagles/Cardinals

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Posted 30 December 2009 - 05:06 AM

Week 17 Power Rankings

1.Indianapolis Colts Next Game: @ Buffalo Bills
2. San Diego Chargers Next Game: VS. Washington Redskins
3. New Orleans Saints Next Game: @ Carolina Panthers
4. Philadelphia Eagles Next Game: @ Dallas Cowboys
5. Minnesota Vikings Next Game: VS. New York Giants
6. Arizona Cardinals Next Game: VS. Green Bay Packers
7. Cincinnati Bengals Next Game: @ New York Jets
8. Green Bay Packers Next Game: @ Arizona Cardinals
9. Dallas Cowboys Next Game: VS. Philadelphia Eagles
10. New England Patriots Next Game: @ Houston Texans

Before I get into this weeks crucial matchups, lets take a look at this years Pro Bowl Participants.

2010 Pro Bowl rosters

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Desean made history by becoming the first player ever to be selected for two postions in the Pro Bowl, awesome. I'm Happy to see that Weaver and Akers were named starters, they earned it. And there's no shame in backing up Peppers and Allen, so congrats to Trent Cole. Asante, you can't tackle, you can be up & down in coverage, but your name recognition and INT's were enough. However, I'm disappointed that Celek was snubbed, he had more TD's than Witten, but I guess that star on the helmet will take care of that. I hope he tears it up on Sunday. And i'll be honest, Peters shouldn't start, heck, if he was off the roster I wouldn't argue. Dude is inconsistent.

I'll be keeping an eye on Cardinals-Packers, Patriots-Texans, Saints-Panthers, and of course, Eagles-Cowboys. The last game of the season will see The Jets taking on the NFC North Champs. If NY wins, they're in. Enjoy, it's gonna be a hell of a week.

Edited by Illmatic, 30 December 2009 - 05:07 AM.

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Posted 31 December 2009 - 02:38 PM

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Well Saints/Panthers was interesting until the Vikings blew it. I suspect New Orleans to rest their starters. No good reason not to.

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Posted 31 December 2009 - 03:01 PM

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I hate to say it, but I think that the Vikings have been overrated on both sides of the line this year. They have what should be the best front four in the league with three Pro-Bowlers and a guy, but they've been very inconsistent.

I only watched the first three quarters of the Panthers/Vikes game before I turned it off in disgust, but Moore didn't look all that great to me. He missed a lot of open receivers. It's just that the Vikings managed to look even worse on offense. And when he missed receivers, it wasn't right to a Vikings defender so he'd have another shot the next play.

Or maybe I'm just bitter because my Vikings have choked earlier than I expected. The playcalling has been very disappointing.

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Posted 31 December 2009 - 04:01 PM

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I only watched the first three quarters of the Panthers/Vikes game before I turned it off in disgust, but Moore didn't look all that great to me. He missed a lot of open receivers. It's just that the Vikings managed to look even worse on offense. And when he missed receivers, it wasn't right to a Vikings defender so he'd have another shot the next play.

You have to understand, that's a huge improvement over the guy he replaced who was handing it to other teams. The Panthers are built to be a run first team. They don't need Drew Brees (although it'd be nice if we had him). It's enough that they have someone who can get the ball down the field often enough that people can't sit on the run and won't turn the ball over. He's been able to do that.

Moore looked sharper during the Giants game.

He may or may not be the long term solution, but he's the best we have at the moment and has at least earned the chance to try.

It's a vast improvement over the turnover fest we were getting from Delhomme.

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Posted 31 December 2009 - 08:14 PM

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I was kinda hoping that we'd see Delhomme because our defense hasn't been ballhawking as well recently and maybe it'd help them get the knack back.

Then again, we couldn't do anything against Cutler either.

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Posted 04 January 2010 - 01:49 AM

Final scores

Bills 30 Colts 7
Panthers 23 Saints 10
Browns 23 Jaguars 17
Texans 34 Patriots 27
Vikings 44 Giants 7
Falcons 20 Buccaneers 10
49ers 28 Rams 6
Steelers 30 Dolphins 24
Bears 37 Lions 23
Chiefs 44 Broncos 24
Packers 33 Cardinals 7
Titans 17 Seahawks 13
Chargers 23 Redskins 20
Ravens 21 Raiders 13
Cowboys 24 Eagles 0

Thank God for the Phillies, otherwise this town would've never witnessed a Championship. Pathetic effort, they came out flat and never got anything going. Dallas played a hell of a game, that defense can take them to the Super Bowl. That was fun, Let's do it again next week!

I hate to say it, but it's time to move on to Kolb. Mcnabb is still a good Quarterback, but it's never gonna happen with him. They can still get some value for him, so it would be best to think about moving him.