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#801 Atheck

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Posted 25 June 2015 - 03:56 PM

 

What about all the lesser villages Pein had been talking about? The one's oppressed under the weight of the five great villages? How are they unified? I didn't see any of their leaders representing their interests at the kage meetings. It's funny how the 5 kages just ASSUME that they know what's best for the other villages without needing to consult them.

 

Oh wait . . . sorry. Logic doesn't apply in this story. The author does whatever the hell suits his whimsey. Anything that gets in the way of that is just a red herring and nothing more. Including much of the Pein arc.

 

Well the country that Pain was from has apparently given its support to Naruto, at least that's what Konan assured him would happen which never bore any fruit on screen during the war. Not sure about the Grass or Waterfall's foreign policy, but I suspect Kishi would likely handwave their individual predicaments as having been resolved off-screen through alliances forged with the major nations. I don't see how Otogakure could be perceived as a legitimate country in the eyes of the world, given how it's pretty much a front for a missing nin's experimentations.  


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Posted 25 June 2015 - 05:15 PM

So I take it Naruto missed Boruto's birthday? poor kid

I want that character erased. If Kishi made his existence a living hell I wouldn't give a kitten.

I'm feeling particularly pissed off right now. Naruto becoming Hokage should have been the crowning moment of the series. Instead instead it's been reduced to kitten bonus chapter for this kittening movie. His glory and rewards sacrificed for a worthless side character and an undeserving traitor. I wish Kishi's career nothing but ill.

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Posted 25 June 2015 - 05:22 PM

May I ask though, WHY are the even releasing this movie before the kitten forsaken anime has not finished?


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Posted 25 June 2015 - 08:06 PM

May I ask though, WHY are the even releasing this movie before the kitten forsaken anime has not finished?


Cause the anime is kitten, with forever dropping ratings, so they need to think of a way to keep people interested in Naruto.

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Posted 25 June 2015 - 09:12 PM

I always see it this way.

The kids, bolt and salad are meant to act like the anti-ending fans.. for awhile now theyve been saying things we antis have been pointing out.. and for that i think they are trying to make it appear as if its being solved thru the old characters explaining some kitten to them.

Well if thats a way i want more of bolts bratty moments towards hinata. Let her be trampled by her own kid.

Ugh.. and is it just me? Or Sasuke looks like an entertainer from a circus group. The one who tames the lion and make it jump on a ring of fire. Lololol cant he just let his waifu anata darling Sakuchan fix it for him?

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Posted 25 June 2015 - 09:15 PM

Cause the anime is kitten, with forever dropping ratings, so they need to think of a way to keep people interested in Naruto.

By giving them a movie with a storyline that happens after the ending which they haven't animated yet. That has to be one of the dumbest moves anyone can do.


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Posted 25 June 2015 - 09:35 PM

What kind of character is Kaito?

 

I never planned on writing about Kaito as an older child, but here's an example of who I believe he is. Kaito would be a child that was raised by everyone. I could see him being passed around among Naruto's friends and sensei's. Each one of them would teach him what they felt was important to them. This intern would give him an excellent understanding of family, and he wouldn't have the void in him that Bolt does. Kaito's dream is to protect those he loves, like his father does. He wouldn't be in a competition with Naruto either. There would be none of this "I'll show you old man, I'm going to surpass you," crap. Instead Kaito would be eager to always being around his father to learn, and if he wasn't allowed too he'd still sneak inside Hokage tower so he could sneak a peek. Having Naruto's friends help raise Kaito also gives him lots of role models, so If Naruto wasn't available Kaito could turn to Shikamaru, Sai, or even Kakashi for advice. 

 

I don't know why, but that cracked me up. :lulz:

 

Lol truth be told I was laughing while I was writing that line. 

 

 

And that was why I was never sold on NH as a pairing, Naruto is volatile and immature, and needs someone who is capable of scolding him, That was Sakura, it's the same for his kids, Hinata would not be able to disipline her child because she's too soft, and would just deal with it, Bolt's issues are just as much her fault as Naruto's, no matter how old fashion is may seem, but it's the mothers that keep the family together. Hinata needs to make Naruto understand and force him to spend more time with his children, and she needs to make Bolt understand his attitude is not acceptable no matter his reasons.

 

Both SS and NH are prime examples of disfuntional families.

 

As for the plot, looks like it might be similar to Dragonball (or I think as I've never read the manga). From what I understand Goku was sent to Earth to conquer it (or atleast that was the reason that was given early on.) so Kaguya seems to be Goku in that sense, she came to Eath to conquer it, and then the enemies in the movie are either the enemy Kaguya wants to use the power of the planet to defeat, or the ones who sent her to earth for the mission. Ofcourse considering the trend of the current SWJ manga's of being milked, we'll probably find the reason came to earth was because there is another enemy that is even stronger that they need to defeat, which we'll see continued in the next manga series, movie or set of movies.

 

This is was why I felt NS would be canon in the end, it's the one thing I used the most when talking about it. Naruto needed someone to ground him, someone who wasn't going to let him fall into his immature habits, and Sakura was that person. Hinata has always been such a pushover character. When NH became canon I at least expected for her to woman up so to speak when it comes to her kids, but alas, even she wasn't able to escape Kishi's way with writing females in his story.

 

She's pathetic, and like you said she is also at fault for Bolt's behavior, if not more so then Naruto. Most of the time women are the ones that keep a family together (I say most because there are single dads) they are the foundation of the family. It is their job to raise their children, and while fathers help they will never do as much work as the mother does. Hinata should be able to help with the void that Bolt has when it comes to his father, she shouldn't be able to completely fill it, but she shouldn't allow her son to become the mini douche that he is. She's lacks the basic's when it comes to motherhood, and part of me honestly thinks that she only thought things through to a certain point when it came to being with Naruto. All she wanted was to hold his big strong hand, and then they got married, and then they had a baby. Sure babies are cute and you can dress them and cuddle with them, but they don't last like that forever. They grow up, and its a mother's job to instill the proper values into their child.

 

To see Bolt ruin his sisters birthday party and for Hinata to just take it all with a loss expression on her face is just sad. All sons need their fathers, I know this through experience. My husband can be gone for 16 hrs a day. By the time he gets home the boys are ready for bed. So I have to take the roll of daddy too. It's not the same though, I can't wrestle with them like he does nor am I strong enough to lift them both up at the same time, but I make the effort to spend even more time with them, but it doesn't look like Hinata can even do that. This is were she fails. For crying out loud she's an alright kunoichi in her own right. If Bolt doesn't like going out for long walks to visit his dead uncle then Hinata should train him. She's Naruto's wife after all so in theory she should know her own husbands form of fighting style, (but we know she doesn't because she doesn't know a damn thing about him still) You'd think Naruto would try and show her some of his moves, just like Kushina taught Minato some of hers. Hell even Chichi trained Goten herself when Goku wasn't around so Hinata should do the same for her son. 

 

All in all NH had a chain reaction that messed everything up. We have a spoiled brat that's gotten no panel time in Gaiden, but he'll be super important in the movie. Then we have his sister who has more appearance in tumblr as fanart then in any canon material. I mean we don't even know if she's got any skills, or is she doomed to make bento's and knit scarfs like her mom for the rest of her life.


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Posted 25 June 2015 - 09:52 PM

 

I never planned on writing about Kaito as an older child, but here's an example of who I believe he is. Kaito would be a child that was raised by everyone. I could see him being passed around among Naruto's friends and sensei's. Each one of them would teach him what they felt was important to them. This intern would give him an excellent understanding of family, and he wouldn't have the void in him that Bolt does. Kaito's dream is to protect those he loves, like his father does. He wouldn't be in a competition with Naruto either. There would be none of this "I'll show you old man, I'm going to surpass you," crap. Instead Kaito would be eager to always being around his father to learn, and if he wasn't allowed too he'd still sneak inside Hokage tower so he could sneak a peek. Having Naruto's friends help raise Kaito also gives him lots of role models, so If Naruto wasn't available Kaito could turn to Shikamaru, Sai, or even Kakashi for advice. 

 

 

Lol truth be told I was laughing while I was writing that line. 

 

 

This is was why I felt NS would be canon in the end, it's the one thing I used the most when talking about it. Naruto needed someone to ground him, someone who wasn't going to let him fall into his immature habits, and Sakura was that person. Hinata has always been such a pushover character. When NH became canon I at least expected for her to woman up so to speak when it comes to her kids, but alas, even she wasn't able to escape Kishi's way with writing females in his story.

 

She's pathetic, and like you said she is also at fault for Bolt's behavior, if not more so then Naruto. Most of the time women are the ones that keep a family together (I say most because there are single dads) they are the foundation of the family. It is their job to raise their children, and while fathers help they will never do as much work as the mother does. Hinata should be able to help with the void that Bolt has when it comes to his father, she shouldn't be able to completely fill it, but she shouldn't allow her son to become the mini douche that he is. She's lacks the basic's when it comes to motherhood, and part of me honestly thinks that she only thought things through to a certain point when it came to being with Naruto. All she wanted was to hold his big strong hand, and then they got married, and then they had a baby. Sure babies are cute and you can dress them and cuddle with them, but they don't last like that forever. They grow up, and its a mother's job to instill the proper values into their child.

 

To see Bolt ruin his sisters birthday party and for Hinata to just take it all with a loss expression on her face is just sad. All sons need their fathers, I know this through experience. My husband can be gone for 16 hrs a day. By the time he gets home the boys are ready for bed. So I have to take the roll of daddy too. It's not the same though, I can't wrestle with them like he does nor am I strong enough to lift them both up at the same time, but I make the effort to spend even more time with them, but it doesn't look like Hinata can even do that. This is were she fails. For crying out loud she's an alright kunoichi in her own right. If Bolt doesn't like going out for long walks to visit his dead uncle then Hinata should train him. She's Naruto's wife after all so in theory she should know her own husbands form of fighting style, (but we know she doesn't because she doesn't know a damn thing about him still) You'd think Naruto would try and show her some of his moves, just like Kushina taught Minato some of hers. Hell even Chichi trained Goten herself when Goku wasn't around so Hinata should do the same for her son. 

 

All in all NH had a chain reaction that messed everything up. We have a spoiled brat that's gotten no panel time in Gaiden, but he'll be super important in the movie. Then we have his sister who has more appearance in tumblr as fanart then in any canon material. I mean we don't even know if she's got any skills, or is she doomed to make bento's and knit scarfs like her mom for the rest of her life.

This is why Hinata and Sakura, once again, are pretty much exactly the same in terms of their "love"; they went into it, and are still in it, a lot more like teenage girls trying to live a "perfect" fairy tale life, seeming to be doing what they can to deny anything is actually wrong when things happen, rather than maturing into adults and seeing that life just doesn't work that way, but trying their best otherwise.

Though, to be fair, at least Sakura, when it comes to Salad, seems to have done a relatively decent job overall with raising her in general as opposed to, obviously, Hinata seeming to do jack squat when it comes to Boruto.


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Posted 25 June 2015 - 10:20 PM

Looking at Gaiden, bolt getting his own movie, is just like Hinata getting hers. Both had next to no relevance in the manga series, yet on the big screen get the most attention. Sure bolt has the excuse of being Naruto's son, but that still doesn't change the fact that he is just a background character in this spin off.

Hopefully once this movie is over, this franchise is too.

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Posted 25 June 2015 - 10:49 PM

I think these things are getting the most attention because it's like still the "ending" of naruto. An ending that sucks carrots...

 

I'm gonna try really hard to pretend this stupid movie doesn't exist >,< ugh


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Why do people NOT ship these two? I just don't get it.

Probably cause they hate Sakura. When she's probably the most developed female character in the whole show.

I respect Hinata, but Sakura deserves some too.


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Posted 26 June 2015 - 12:32 AM

 

Well the country that Pain was from has apparently given its support to Naruto, at least that's what Konan assured him would happen which never bore any fruit on screen during the war. Not sure about the Grass or Waterfall's foreign policy, but I suspect Kishi would likely handwave their individual predicaments as having been resolved off-screen through alliances forged with the major nations. I don't see how Otogakure could be perceived as a legitimate country in the eyes of the world, given how it's pretty much a front for a missing nin's experimentations.  

 

Well the thing is that Konan died and the current state of Amegakure is totally unknown and we all saw that it was a land that always suffered due to wars and civil wars, Otogakure is still somewhat active apparently seeing that Orochimaru, it's founder, is alive, well and obviously still doing his human experiments without any kind of intervention 

 

Saying some kind of alliance happened "off screen" with the other villages wouldn't be quite the good way of resolving things in the manga but at least it would suffice, however even this didn't happen.

At this point I think it's safe to say that Kishi completely forgot about minor villages


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Posted 26 June 2015 - 12:53 AM

He would remember if the plot demand so.

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Posted 26 June 2015 - 01:41 AM

He would remember if the plot demand so.

I don't think Kishi would use anything from old series besides Kaguya because the truth is that's her point. Just being part of New Era Project that has lowered the quality.

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Posted 26 June 2015 - 01:47 AM

I don't think Kishi would use anything from old series besides Kaguya because the truth is that's her point. Just being part of New Era Project that has lowered the quality.

 

Yeah basically this, the small villages situation could be an interesting plot point but once again they were overruled in favour of this cheesy Kaguya BS continued existence


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Posted 26 June 2015 - 01:56 AM

Cause the anime is kitten, with forever dropping ratings, so they need to think of a way to keep people interested in Naruto.


I don't get why they haven't cancelled the anime if it's doing so bad? lol

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Posted 26 June 2015 - 02:05 AM

I don't get why they haven't cancelled the anime if it's doing so bad? lol

 

It must still give them some kind of income even if it's clear that the production values dropped a lot


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Posted 26 June 2015 - 03:37 AM

Gonna laugh so hard if it is revaled in the movie that Hinata is pregnant

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Posted 26 June 2015 - 03:56 AM

Gonna laugh so hard if it is revaled in the movie that Hinata is pregnant

I expect Hinata and sakura are pregnant.
Hinata = child with byakugan.
Sakura = pink hair uchiha.

After all, it's not uchiha without sibling and Hinata need byakugan successor.

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Posted 26 June 2015 - 05:29 AM

I expect Hinata and sakura are pregnant.
Hinata = child with byakugan.
Sakura = pink hair uchiha.

After all, it's not uchiha without sibling and Hinata need byakugan successor.


Unless Kishi forgets about the Byakugan again and makes the third child as plain as the other two.

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Posted 26 June 2015 - 05:59 AM

Unless Kishi forgets about the Byakugan again and makes the third child as plain ugly as the other two.


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