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[Gravenimage]

Oh Lord it wasn't enough the fandom argued Hinata been Kaguya's reincarnation, now she's the reincarnation of Hamura. Anything to make Hinata relevant to the story.

[Gojira]

Oh Lord it wasn't enough the fandom argued Hinata been Kaguya's reincarnation, now she's the reincarnation of Hamura. Anything to make Hinata relevant to the story.

That's even worse lol

[MoonDrop04]

Who wants to make a bet that there will be one on one confrontation between kaguya and Hagoromo in the coming chapters!?!?

I'm sorry it just seems the past few chapters gave us too many hints of how the story is going to bring out the old Sage of six paths into play!!! So to anyone that see's this want to have a little fun if this will happen or not?? Lol hahahahahahahaha

[pumyte]

and there I was waiting for new chapter thinking that it is Thursday already  now I want this day to go by faster 

[Otaru]

Who wants to make a bet that there will be one on one confrontation between kaguya and Hagoromo in the coming chapters!?!?

I'm sorry it just seems the past few chapters gave us too many hints of how the story is going to bring out the old Sage of six paths into play!!! So to anyone that see's this want to have a little fun if this will happen or not?? Lol hahahahahahahaha

 

Ah that would be cool but right now I want drama, Naruto/Sakura/Kakashi badassery, and teamwork (don't care if Sasuke is included or not lol)

[Chatte]

With the Hamura name being associated with cherry blossoms and water (hello, Katsuyu!), all I'm waiting for now is Sakura badassery. xD

[MoonDrop04]

 
Ah that would be cool but right now I want drama, Naruto/Sakura/Kakashi badassery, and teamwork (don't care if Sasuke is included or not lol)

Ah that will happen very very soon if Hagoromo does appear to face kaguya >X) hehehehe

Take this for instance.......Hagoromo and Kaguya's match will be so catastrophic that their fight will take back onto the surface and no longer in the center of the earth.

Sasuke being....."him"......will want to follow the battle back up to the surface leaving the rest of team 7 down under. Naruto and Sakura will be saying WTH to Sasuke wondering why he's leaving while they should make a strategy. Sasuke will say that since the Sage is now here that he has a better chance of taking kaguya down and no longer needs Naruto and team 7's help no more!!

-This will leave room for Kakashi to have his final moments with Obito
-give more screen time of naruto being with Sakura and having more interaction with each other
-deal with Sakura's closure of her "usefulness" in team 7's teamwork which I'm betting my BLOODY RIGHT FOOT that Naruto will be happy to help her in that regard!!!

So if we want the drama that we all want X).......we gotta need that Hagoromo piece of meat dangling in front of Sasuke and make him go fetch!!! Hahahahahahahaha XD

[TouKen4Life3g]

Well, finally can ease up after E3. So what's new here?

[FireFox]

 

I adressed that but if it was a mere "swap" then why the hell Madara is on the ground with Sasuke's sword on the chest.
Sasuke's sword was landed on the rock, and Madara was on the air.
If he just "swapped" positions then Madara would not had stayed on the ground with a sword on his chest.
 
Izanagi wasnt explained very well, it's not just a genjutsu because genjutsu can be coutered, he just change the reality, by swapping his position with the sword and making it land on Madara's chest, while he was on the air.
 
It's inconclusive it's certainly more than just swapping places.

I understand that and I didn't meant to say that they just swapped places and that was it perhaps i should have worded it more properly . Either way what i meant to say prove to you was that the sword and Sasuke changed positions not Madara himself and that this means that his "speed" comes from the Rinengan . As for how the swap   was done (mind you i'm not saying that its just a mere swap ) well to me the more i look at it it seems to be Flash Stepping with the ability to Dematrialize  it seems like Sasuke has the ability to dematerializes himself and objects and move them its the same thing he did with Madara in here http://www.mangapand...m/naruto/674/14

 

Genjutsu is an Illusion Izanagi also falls  under the category of an Illusion so its a type of genjutsu Izanagi changes one reality into an Illusion this is very much clear . You have slightly mixed up things with Izanagi and Sasuke's ability you see what Sasuke's does is not the same he doesn't alter the reality completely i mean change what has already happen into nothing this is Izanagi not what Sasuke is doing he doesn't really change reality itself its like saying that Obito moving from one place to another change reality itself no what Sasuke is doing is just committing an action if we go by this then everyone changes reality .

 

 
I thought it was some kind of blink but after looking at what flash step means, now i understand but i dont think it's linked to his rinnegan.
 
 It doesnt show it's linked to the rinnegan, the fact you said "he uses it here", it's a suposition that you made yourself.
Naruto and Sasuke received chakra from Hagoromo, he didnt just got some special power, also Kabuto give him a quite of power by giving him, Senju cells and Hashirama by giving chakra we have yet to see the effects of it.
Sasuke didnt just got a rinnegan.
The chakra affected both Naruto and Sasuke and Naruto got faster aswell but for some reason he's not "Flash stepping" as show here "http://www.mangaread...et/naruto/673/4".
 

And you think this is enough to make him Godlike fast ? Sorry but NO just NO if that was the case then this has to be the Biggest Asspull of Increasing Speed  this is just ridiculous . First of all Sasuke hasn't shown any increasing of Speed since the T7 reunion and you mean to tell me that he went from being slower then the Raikage to being faster then even Madara and Naruto who has the 9 Bijuu's just because of some Senju cells and whatever chakra they received from the SO6P ? This is ridiculous if you showed me how or how much Senju cells  increases one's speed maybe it would have been true and you are exaggerating the amount of chakra that Kabuto gave him and furthermore we have no evidence that he received anything from Hashirama the fact that he didn't used it at that time and before Madara was gone   could mean that he declined his offer also Hashirama wasn't gonna give him permanent chakra but a temporary jutsu to stop Madara's SM .

 

Madara didn't gain Godlike Speed because of Senju cells , Obito as well and they had a Ton more crap of Senju cells in their Body then freaking Sasuke   they did gain Godlike Speed because they had the chakra of the Nine Bijuu's . 

 

You yourself are making a assumption by thinking that the chakra they received from Hagoromo is the reason for their "speed" when we know that it was not the case with Naruto, Naruto was fast before with just Kurama and now Naruto has the 9 freaking Bijuu's plus Ashura's by you logic Naruto should fast like freaking Goku and  stomp Sasuke in speed . The only logical conclusion is that Sasuke's speed comes from his eye the Rinengan not from his body no amount of chakra except the 9 Bijuu's could gave you that speed.

Its freaking insane and ridiculous for Sasuke to be faster then everyone else just because of Indra's chakra that he received when Naruto and Madara have 9 Bijuu's  

 

And you do realize that in your link he's blitzing a one eyed Rinengan Madara who still hasn't absorbed the tree yet in there right ?

 

Also the fact that he switched positions with his sword and that after that fight he was holding his Eye which is sign of stress means that the Eye has a cooldown and he didn't used his speed when Sakura attacked Madara but used it after that all of this is more then enough for me to believe that his speed comes from the Eye. 

 

 
Reflex, reaction time.
i'm not diminishing speed on the manga is inconclusive we cant say they are matched in terms of speed or that one is faster than the other, i've seen Naruto being slower as "10 10" and faster than the raikage.
 
I changed that i didnt talked about sage mode on that specific moment but tells much about how that moment was presented if he was supposed to be that faster he would have won against a blinded Sasuke when they clashed on the summit like he did against the Third Raikage and his hellbringer.
 
My opinion it is inconclusive and extremely relative.

Reflex, reaction time and "Speed"  To catch someone in that short distance/range it takes high speed , this is how you are diminishing it you are making the assumption that he wasn't fast at all in here and it was just a reflex and reaction time when his movement shows the opposite from that  to me they are at least equal in their base i'm not comparing them to the Raikage and like i said speed is somewhat comparable in this manga , Kishi not showing Naruto more oftenly using his speed is a different matter .

 

And i can use the same logic as you in here if Sasuke was that fast he should have won against Naruto him being almost blinded doesn't effect his speed only his sense of direction and i didn't see him missing Naruto so there is that also you do realize that this was done because the plot demanded it right ? 

 

Then i think we are done about this question if that is your conclusion  i somewhat agree with your opinion on this but its not what i was discussing i guess your answer is  neither is faster then the other in this case since its  inconclusive am i right ?

Edited by NarutoFireFoxUzumaki, 10 June 2014 - 01:11 PM.

[Hiddlestoner]

I'm not really sure here but can someone explain to me why some of hinata fans are speculating that Hinata is possibly one of hamura's children's reincarnation? 

 

Someone in another forum also mentioned that while hagoromo has sons, Hamura has daughters instead.

Edited by Hiddlestoner, 10 June 2014 - 03:02 PM.

[咲耶姫]

I'm not really sure here but can someone explain to me why some of hinata fans are speculating that Hinata is possibly one of hamura's children's reincarnation? 

 

Someone in another forum also mentioned that while hagoromo has sons, Hamura has daughters instead.

Because she happens to not be Kaguya's reincarnation as they were expecting. So now, they are switching to Hamura's reincarnation. They are hopping for Hamura to have a link to the byakugan and thus making Hinata a relevant character. I suggest you to not bother paying attention to their theories. It's useless and will never happen. They just want Hinata to become a main character. 

[Hiddlestoner]

Because she happens to not be Kaguya's reincarnation as they were expecting. So now, they are switching to Hamura's reincarnation. They are hopping for Hamura to have a link to the byakugan and thus making Hinata a relevant character. I suggest you to not bother paying attention to their theories. It's useless and will never happen. They just want Hinata to become a main character. 

I do agree with you about all this theories that hinata's deluded fan create on. IMO I think sakura has a more stronger chance of relating with hamura but again, until kishi shows us a backstory about hamura, all of this is just mere speculation.

[Chatte]

If anthing, Hamura will have somethibg to do with Sakura given the representative of Hamura - cherry blossoms and all...

[narusaku256]

It was clearly not a coincidence regarding the relation between Hamura and Sakura. Why does Hamura have to relate to cherry blossom of all? Or even the vice versa question will work. It is intentional, I guess.

[Hiddlestoner]

If anthing, Hamura will have somethibg to do with Sakura given the representative of Hamura - cherry blossoms and all...

Its interesting how out of all the places Kishi chose, he chosen hamura which is famous for the sakura trees. Btw, Hamura's and Fussa's (one of the surrounding municipalities near hamura) flags, both are circle in shape, almost similar like the haruno clan symbol.

[Dkey]

Because she happens to not be Kaguya's reincarnation as they were expecting. So now, they are switching to Hamura's reincarnation. They are hopping for Hamura to have a link to the byakugan and thus making Hinata a relevant character. I suggest you to not bother paying attention to their theories. It's useless and will never happen. They just want Hinata to become a main character. 

Imagine hyuuga and uzumaki branching out of hamura.

[narusaku256]

Btw did Kishi change his mind or what? I mean when Hagoromo made a referance to his brother, it was thwarted saying its not important but now we even get his name. It was not for nothing right?

[Tsuki Hoshino]

I don't get why they thought Hinata being the reincarnation of Kaguya would be a good thing in the first place...especially since she's you know, EVIL.

 

[DattebayoXShannaro]

Btw did Kishi change his mind or what? I mean when Hagoromo made a referance to his brother, it was thwarted saying its not important but now we even get his name. It was not for nothing right?

 

Didn't he what wasn't important was where Kaguya came from?

Edited by DattebayoXShannaro, 10 June 2014 - 04:13 PM.

[luffyq1]

I don't get why they thought Hinata being the reincarnation of Kaguya would be a good thing in the first place...especially since she's you know, EVIL.

 

Some good incest fic.