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[redragon88]

It's a SS fan on the SS FC on NF that said he had the raw from a chinese provider who does the chinese translation. Weird...

 

So that SS fan has the raw, and yet they choose not to post it? Suuuuuuuure.

 

They wouldn't even need to post the entire pages, they could just cut to the parts about Sakura, but instead they just write stuff and expect us to believe it at face value.

 

No, just no.

[narusaku256]

Can someone please tell me what is seriously going on? Two translations one pro SS one anti SS, the Chinese, the Japanese I don't get a thing. Which one is the real translation? And does it state that, 'though you still LOVE him'? Are MS and MP wrong? Please please someone provide me with the correct translation. A humble request.

[咲耶姫]

 

So that SS fan has the raw, and yet they choose not to post it? Suuuuuuuure.

 

They wouldn't even need to post the entire pages, they could just cut to the parts about Sakura, but instead they just write stuff and expect us to believe it at face value.

 

No, just no.

Apparently, the chinese provider gave him just the sript and not the page. We'll see when we will have the true raw.

 

Can someone please tell me what is seriously going on? Two translations one pro SS one anti SS, the Chinese, the Japanese I don't get a thing. Which one is the real translation? And does it state that, 'though you still LOVE him'? Are MS and MP wrong? Please please someone provide me with the correct translation. A humble request.

SS fans claiming a chinese provider who does the chinese translations gave him the script of the japanese raw and so that SS fans script we saw some days ago would be true. But I doubt it. There is no proof until the true release of the raw in a few days.

[narusaku256]

 
SS fans claiming a chinese provider who does the chinese translations gave him the script of the japanese raw and so that SS fans script we saw some days ago would be true. But I doubt it. There is no proof until the true release of the raw in a few days.

So nothing is clear uptil now, right?

[Chatte]

Lol, guess it's the most expected raw, haha. Only that if that raw would be true, the last part of Kakashi's thoughts would seem like Sakura loves Sasule out of pity? Dunno if that is the case, things do not add up... In both visual medium paired with the words... Meh, dunno.

[六道仙人]

this situation is getting very annoying. No one has the real raw yet until the next week when it will come out. SS fans (especially from tumblr) are no stranger to that kinda stuff, they have already did in the past.

 

But even that script would be real (even though it's still have 2% to be real), that onaji suki doens't look absolutely bad to me

[redragon88]

Apparently, the chinese provider gave him just the sript and not the page. We'll see when we will have the true raw.

 

SS fans claiming a chinese provider who does the chinese translations gave him the script of the japanese raw and so that SS fans script we saw some days ago would be true. But I doubt it. There is no proof until the true release of the raw in a few days.

 

It sounds more like this SS fan got the script randomly from the internet and believed whatever BS was mentioned about it's validity and so started to claim that it was indeed the "official transcript".

 

this situation is getting very annoying. No one has the real raw yet until the next week when it will come out. SS fans (especially from tumblr) are no stranger to that kinda stuff, they have already did in the past.

 

But even that script would be real (even though it's still have 2% to be real), that onaji suki doens't look absolutely bad to me

 

I agree, I'm getting annoyed as well. I hope we can get the raw by monday to be done with this.

 

Is that "onaji suki" what means "same love", why would you say that it's not really bad? I don't believe the scripts, but I'm curious why you see it that way.

[LadyGT]

this situation is getting very annoying. No one has the real raw yet until the next week when it will come out. SS fans (especially from tumblr) are no stranger to that kinda stuff, they have already did in the past.
 
But even that script would be real (even though it's still have 2% to be real), that onaji suki doens't look absolutely bad to me

Like what, did they change the scripts to make it more suitable?

[Dkey]

Raw wont solve anything really it may even be more criptic

[六道仙人]

Like what, did they change the scripts to make it more suitable?

 

not change, just made it up or based on a simply translation from eng>jap

 

@reddragon

 

Because to me it's no have any sense. Still taking this script as true, Kakashi said that "It's the same love even though the feelings are anothers".... We can agree that the one Sakura felt at that time was a mere crush, right? So Kakashi is basically saying that "it's the same crush but the feelings are another"? LOL It doesn't make sense.

 

Onaji suki can relate to the "suki" that Sakura felt in chapter 3, a childish love (and no one can debate on this). But Kakashi could have even more criptic by saying that she is now fond of him, not just a pure love but an affection.

 

Especially the rest of kakashi's speech doesn't have any sense if the core of his speech is just "it's the same love even though the feelings are another". Is he saying that she still have a childish crush with a different feelings? LOL

Edited by 六道仙人, 10 May 2014 - 10:35 AM.

[James S Cassidy]

Raw wont solve anything really it may even be more criptic

 

Actually, this is true.

Even the raws don't help to change it and many still translate it wrong. Look at Chapter 631. Even when we got the raws and it clearly shows Minato saying "girlfriend," people still are convinced he said "are you his friend that just so happen to be a girl?" It is ridiculous.

Problem is is that people are going by just literal translations and not also accounting for the context of the scene. With this, how and why would Sakura's feelings for Sasuke get stronger? There is no reason to and in fact, there is every reason why they would decrease instead. Sure, Kishi is bad at romance, but he is not that bad. That would be like Twilight level writing if it was that bad.

 

In context for her to fall out of love with Sasuke and only see him as a friend makes more of a logical sense than her resolve in being with him that much stronger.
 

[TouKen4Life3g]

This is one hell of a battle for a raw. It'll be funny that it takes so long, the next chapter would be out and pretty much say it straight out, "Sakura doesn't love you!"

[redragon88]

@六道仙人

 

Thanks for clearing that up.

 

You know, the more of this fake scripts come out the less believable they keep becoming.

[LadyGT]

Girl that is also a friend, I will never forget this one.

[FireFox]

 

Actually, this is true.

Even the raws don't help to change it and many still translate it wrong. Look at Chapter 631. Even when we got the raws and it clearly shows Minato saying "girlfriend," people still are convinced he said "are you his friend that just so happen to be a girl?" It is ridiculous.

Problem is is that people are going by just literal translations and not also accounting for the context of the scene. With this, how and why would Sakura's feelings for Sasuke get stronger? There is no reason to and in fact, there is every reason why they would decrease instead. Sure, Kishi is bad at romance, but he is not that bad. That would be like Twilight level writing if it was that bad.

 

In context for her to fall out of love with Sasuke and only see him as a friend makes more of a logical sense than her resolve in being with him that much stronger.
 

Its because he attempted to kill her 3 times that's how and why , Sakura obviously find that romantic from Sasuke's side 540 and 635 clearly showed this  .

[Namaenash]

To me personally, I didnt bother that much with the raw script. People can come up with the so called raws and make claims to be suitable to their preferences... they can change it, but they can't change the drawing and the context Kishimoto has put into the manga.

 

Much like 631, or 615 for that matters... and many others which people try to debate and skew. If this is a novel, yes, we can debate over the choices of words, the interpretation, etc. Not in this case, choices of words and interpretation goes hand in hand with the drawing. We can debate it, but we also need to take the drawing into the context of our debate.

 

To me, no matter how much people try to skew things in this chapter, the context and the drawing is clearly put and it essentially beat those "in-depth" analysis of the event. You can't change those. You can't change the fact that Sasuke was very cold towards Sakura, whereby Naruto was very warm towards her. You can't change the fact that Sakura was impressed with Naruto and start to have conversation with him, although Sasuke is there as well. You can't change the fact that she goes to Kakashi directly and spend no time with Sasuke when she learned Kakashi is hurt. It shows and depicted clearly. Picture says a thousand words. So is those panels in this manga.

Edited by Namaenash, 10 May 2014 - 11:15 AM.

[AzureWaters]

From what I understand, that RAW is stating that while Sakura has the same type of love for Sasuke (romantic), the depth/weight of it has changed. Kakashi compares his chapter 3 flashback to how Sakura is now, and says that her feelings are on a different level to what they were then (not shallow / fangirl in nature). Which would definitely be a boost to SS, and also implies that Kishi thinks highly of her feelings for Sasuke now.

 

But that's only if that script is true. If it's fake then there's nothing to worry about. Also since it does sound very pro, this could mean there's a high chance of it being a fake. I sure hope so at least.

Edited by AzureWaters, 10 May 2014 - 11:30 AM.

[FreakySandra1995]

From what I understand, that RAW is stating that while Sakura has the same type of love for Sasuke (romantic), the depth/weight of it has changed. Kakashi compares his chapter 3 flashback to how Sakura is now, and says that her feelings are on a different level to what they were then (not shallow / fangirl in nature). Which would definitely be a boost to SS, and also implies that Kishi thinks highly of her feelings for Sasuke now.

 

But that's only if that script is true. If it's fake then there's nothing to worry about

But that wouldn't make sense. Why didn't Kishi just let Kakashi say that "your feelings are stronger" instead of "changed", if he intended it that way?

[TouKen4Life3g]

Girl that is also a friend, I will never forget this one.

This was the lowest but now, here we are.

Also, change of feelings is different than increased or matured. It's not leveling up, it's changing to a new stat.

[六道仙人]

but above all, a true love never had some different levels to misure it... It isn't like when a supersaiyan gonna to be a supersaiyan level 2 or 3. It's absurd that sakura's love she had for Sasuke has became into a "super love level 2". All this with the conclusion "You're a kind girl" lol WTF? This doesn't make sense, even in a manga.

 

LOL