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[AHK]

kishi brought in kaguya to get rid of madara, since he didn't know how to defeat him. it was an ugly cop-out

If there wasn't a need to satisfy Hinata, then there would have no need for Kaguya. Naruto damn near solo'd her anyway, as Sasuke was useless. It's not that he didn't know how to beat Madara, he didn't know how to beat Madara in a way that would give Hinata a chance to be relavant.

[Bryon_Konoha_Ninja]

not the brightest idea to admit you don't have a clue on how to defeat your villain. basically he's saying he didn't plan this ahead.

 

Pretty much, man. Even I could find a way to beat Madara in my fanfic!

 

 

 another proof that Kishi never thought that he would have to add so much arcs to his mangas before finishing it, because, Idk, when you start to write a story, you have to first plan who's gonna be the main characters, the main antagonist, their characteristics, how it's gonna end...but Kishi didn't. Maybe, a little, since he planned Naruto and Sasuke's fight 7 years ago...but nothing else, like how Naruto would become hokage ...

 

Yeah, no kidding, Ichigo-chan, which is kind of dumb, you know?

[Pix]

not the brightest idea to admit you don't have a clue on how to defeat your villain. basically he's saying he didn't plan this ahead.

He did plan it ahead, but SJ ruined it all. I'm pretty sure Naruto was supposed to fight Sasuke in the end, but then fanservice ensued. Insert Team 7 reunited, Kakashi has hokage, Madara v. Harashima, Naruhina, etc. 

 

If there wasn't a need to satisfy Hinata, then there would have no need for Kaguya. Naruto damn near solo'd her anyway, as Sasuke was useless. It's not that he didn't know how to beat Madara, he didn't know how to beat Madara in a way that would give Hinata a chance to be relavant.

I should have known when I saw her byakugan. But other than that we really were blindsided. No one could have ever, ever predicted that the entire ending would revolve around Hinata. 

[luffyq1]

If there wasn't a need to satisfy Hinata, then there would have no need for Kaguya. Naruto damn near solo'd her anyway, as Sasuke was useless. It's not that he didn't know how to beat Madara, he didn't know how to beat Madara in a way that would give Hinata a chance to be relavant.

i can actually see how he didn't know how to defeat madara, because he doesn't know how to properly handle a lot of things in this series.

 

(his answer to peace is a tnj campaign)

 

(scum like obito answers for his crimes by sacrificing himself and getting rewarded in the end)

 

(sakura for whatever reason can't get over sasuke)

 

(naruto's ability to magically restore kakashi's eyes was never properly explained)

 

i can go on and on, the point is that kishi is a screw-up and can't handle a lot of things he puts in this series. 

[TouKen4Life3g]

i can actually see how he didn't know how to defeat madara, because he doesn't know how to properly handle a lot of things in this series.
 
(his answer to peace is a tnj campaign)
 
(scum like obito answers for his crimes by sacrificing himself and getting rewarded in the end)
 
(sakura for whatever reason can't get over sasuke)
 
(naruto's ability to magically restore kakashi's eyes was never properly explained)
 
i can go on and on, the point is that kishi is a screw-up and can't handle a lot of things he puts in this series. 

I feel like when Naruto was trying to explain to Sakura, that's Kishi right there. It's like Destiny BS. "I have no time to explain for why I have no time to explain."

Edited by NaruSaku4Life3g, 03 March 2015 - 07:13 PM.

[luffyq1]

I feel like when Naruto was trying to explain to Sakura, that's Kishi right there. It's like Destiny BS. "I have no time to explain for why I have no time to explain."

[TouKen4Life3g]

I feel like when Naruto was trying to explain to Sakura, that's Kishi right there. It's like Destiny BS. "I have no time to explain for why I have no time to explain."

That too.

I have no idea on what just happened.

[AHK]

i can actually see how he didn't know how to defeat madara, because he doesn't know how to properly handle a lot of things in this series.

 

(his answer to peace is a tnj campaign)

 

(scum like obito answers for his crimes by sacrificing himself and getting rewarded in the end)

 

(sakura for whatever reason can't get over sasuke)

 

(naruto's ability to magically restore kakashi's eyes was never properly explained)

 

i can go on and on, the point is that kishi is a screw-up and can't handle a lot of things he puts in this series. 

While its true that he couldn't handle many things, but the way Kaguya got beaten wasn't exclusive to her. He could have used that same ordeal on Madara, and nothing would have changed, except for the fact that Hinata wouldn't have a clear place in the ending.

[Konoha'sCrimsonFox]

Lol. Funny NS post of the day.

My personal friends are completely insane. They beleive Kishi is reading too many NS angst fanfics (where the stories starts off as NH and SS first)that he had to make the end the way it is because he thought that's what most western NS fans like. And there will a NS comeback at the ending of pt3.

[luffyq1]

While its true that he couldn't handle many things, but the way Kaguya got beaten wasn't exclusive to her. He could have used that same ordeal on Madara, and nothing would have changed, except for the fact that Hinata wouldn't have a clear place in the ending.

i think it has more to do with the fact he didn't know how to handle madara than hinata's placement in the series, though i'm not disagreeing that it didn't play a part.

[TouKen4Life3g]

I still hate that panel. Lol. The one I posted it in my pairing post. The one with Hinata.

[Narufan85]

Sorry if this has already been mentioned, I've skimmed the last couple pages.

Is it just me, or did Kaguya seem way underpowered for being the "final villain." I mean, the Z fighters...er, team 7 seemed to be in much more danger against a fully powered Madara right before Zetsu came in and double crossed him. Did Kaguya ever really show off any moves beyond stealing Janemba's teleportation technique?

[Bryon_Konoha_Ninja]

I still hate that panel. Lol. The one I posted it in my pairing post. The one with Hinata.

 

The one of her with Hima? Dude, I don't like it much either, given she seems to be happy, but unaware of how her husband and son are feeling.

[luffyq1]

I still hate that panel. Lol. The one I posted it in my pairing post. The one with Hinata.

what panel is that?

[TouKen4Life3g]

The panel from 699 after she woke up. That's literally a heroine panel. What the kitten.

[luffyq1]

The panel from 699 after she woke up. That's literally a heroine panel. What the kitten.

well she is the heroine so that is to be expected.

[Bryon_Konoha_Ninja]

well she is the heroine so that is to be expected.

 

You forgot quotes around heroine, Luffy

[Liu bie]

Instead of Kaguya Kishi should have develop nh

[TouKen4Life3g]

well she is the heroine so that is to be expected.

I was like "what the hell is going on?" throughout 699. I mean how much I have to get shoved in. It wasn't like that much until now. It was aggravating. Even the forced funeral scene. Damn, that chapter was cringeworthy.

[luffyq1]

I was like "what the hell is going on?" throughout 699. I mean how much I have to get shoved in. It wasn't like that much until now. It was aggravating. Even the forced funeral scene. Damn, that chapter was cringeworthy.

gotta pay their respects to cupid.