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[TouKen4Life3g]

Actually I'm sure he did. 615 was basically a way to wrap up what happened during the exams in part 1, except the roles are switched. Neji is the one choosing how he will die/choosing his own destiny, Naruto's the one that seems defeated,at first, before Hinata pushes him to keep fighting. :)

Yeah, you're right. It's just maybe he couldn't fit the timing perfectly, so it probably came out a little odd at least to some people. I didn't mind that much but the follow-up for Naruto from 614 to 615 feels odd because it look like he was pissed, but then he was shocked.

[Qia]

Yeah, you're right. It's just maybe he couldn't fit the timing perfectly, so it probably came out a little odd at least to some people. I didn't mind that much but the follow-up for Naruto from 614 to 615 feels odd because it look like he was pissed, but then he was shocked.

Does it? It seemed more like he was shocked/ unsure of what to do for 614 entirely though, from not understanding what had happened to Inoichi and the others. But whatever I guess. It's up to people's interpretations, as you've stated.

[bthug]

I dont know how i feel about this adam and eve take in ninja world, but the sage looks like Naruto from the back so thats cool. Unfortunately this just keeps delaying NS. Also where the heck are the Kages?

[TouKen4Life3g]

Does it? It seemed more like he was shocked/ unsure of what to do for 614 entirely though, from not understanding what had happened to Inoichi and the others. But whatever I guess. It's up to people's interpretations, as you've stated.

It's hard to say. It was strange that the last moment for 614 got repeated twice, only this time, Naruto is in shocked rather than looking up, then looked shocked as he realized it. But eh, it doesn't matter. What's done is done. I don't mind.

 

I dont know how i feel about this adam and eve take in ninja world, but the sage looks like Naruto from the back so thats cool. Unfortunately this just keeps delaying NS. Also where the heck are the Kages?

I think we will get to NS sooner than we think. We are near end of th

Edited by NaruSaku4Life3g, 13 September 2013 - 02:40 PM.

[Question22]

anybody noticed that sasuke didnt care when naruto was  criticaly injured by Obito he looked  him coldly

 

And everybody thought he became the good guy....

 

Sasuke is still a criminal. a criminal stays a criminal

[Dkey]

anybody noticed that sasuke didnt care when naruto was  criticaly injured by Obito he looked  him coldly

 

And everybody thought he became the good guy....

 

Sasuke is still a criminal. a criminal stays a criminal

 

 

yeah well I don't really see him as a criminal. The only thing "illegal" would be the kage party crash and the attack on killer bee. But I see killer bee being all cool about it and call it sport or something.

[TouKen4Life3g]

anybody noticed that sasuke didnt care when naruto was  criticaly injured by Obito he looked  him coldly

 

And everybody thought he became the good guy....

 

Sasuke is still a criminal. a criminal stays a criminal

He never said he was. When they all questioned him why is he in the battlefield, then tell him that he can't erase what he did in the past, he just said he don't care. That's how Naruto noticed that he's not clean. Throughout the fight, he hardly cares if anyone gets hurt or anything. Naruto always see anyone as a human being as Sasuke sees them a tool, especially the Edo Tensei. Yes, they can recover, but show some respect. It's like saying in DBZ, "Oh he's dead, but we can revive him," he still went through hell. If you ever noticed, he never display a protection moment, only to Naruto for a selfish reason. This one was highly covered in 644. He is so guilty in that scene. No excuses. 646 only boosts more to his display of care, which is just there while Naruto feels huge pain. This is a night and day comparison.

[TouKen4Life3g]

 

 

yeah well I don't really see him as a criminal. The only thing "illegal" would be the kage party crash and the attack on killer bee. But I see killer bee being all cool about it and call it sport or something.

That still holds a lot, especially the stuff he has done. He won't get a huge sentence, but he will get one if being held. The fact he crashed the Kage Party is actually enough. That's like me going to White House and throw a shoe, it's still a crime. He invaded the government place and to make matter worse, he killed Danzou, who was still member of a government system. You could say, "Well he was controlled." That won't matter. Even in Fairy Tail got this right, and if that manga knows it, then you can't be naiive to think everything will be ok.

Edited by NaruSaku4Life3g, 13 September 2013 - 04:06 PM.

[Psychox]

I dont know how i feel about this adam and eve take in ninja world, but the sage looks like Naruto from the back so thats cool. Unfortunately this just keeps delaying NS. Also where the heck are the Kages?

I think its somewhat okay not to have a NS moment ,because honestly , if we do then its all over for the opposing teams . Just a small gesture from Sakura->Naruto and voila it cuts the cord(s) with Sasuke .

 

 

 

yeah well I don't really see him as a criminal. The only thing "illegal" would be the kage party crash and the attack on killer bee. But I see killer bee being all cool about it and call it sport or something.

 

Him leaving the village makes him automatically  a criminal and he is suppose to be killed right on the spot if seen. The fact that Tusnade kept him off the bingo book and away from Danzo 's sight was the only positive pulling him away from the dead list.

[TouKen4Life3g]

Honestly, the way I see it, I think this arc will fully established that he can't return because if K9 including Sakura can't accept him, why should everyone else. The fact they already concluded that he's officially a world criminal and no one feels comfortable, it goes to show you that he's not coming back. Lastly, if he keeps up the jealous for Naruto, he's going to lose all credibility for a return. At this rate, Naruto would probably have that "Kill him for everyone's sake" moment where he believes he will do something that all of them will accept. It's like how Aang struggles the idea that he must kill Fire Lord to bring balance, yet why that should be the answer. To me, Kishi is making Sasuke the finalized villain by presenting himself in this arc.

[Nostradamus]

And a fight was interrupted for the second time to give her a chance to speak .

 

That too.

Many knows his nindo, but I thought it was good idea to have Hinata to talk to him because this is the only fitting time for Hinata to get her most likely final development. If taken by someone else, then where will she fit in. And yes, she is in love with his nindo, so if she don't take the moment, then, how can she fit in. Yeah, the setup was odd in a way, but hey, Kishi probably got no choice since he probably didn't have her in mind in this whole part 2 for all we know.

It was a good idea to have Hinata give that speech the problem is it felt really strange and it was forced and a lot needed to happen in order for Hinata to get her moment.

[Psychox]

Honestly, the way I see it, I think this arc will fully established that he can't return because if K9 including Sakura can't accept him, why should everyone else. The fact they already concluded that he's officially a world criminal and no one feels comfortable, it goes to show you that he's not coming back. Lastly, if he keeps up the jealous for Naruto, he's going to lose all credibility for a return. At this rate, Naruto would probably have that "Kill him for everyone's sake" moment where he believes he will do something that all of them will accept. It's like how Aang struggles the idea that he must kill Fire Lord to bring balance, yet why that should be the answer. To me, Kishi is making Sasuke the finalized villain by presenting himself in this arc.

I don't know about that , a lot of people have been speculating that he will be redeemed and him and Naruto will rule together as Hashi and Madara spoke once in their flashback . I certainly want Sasuke to be redeemed ,but that doesn't mean that he'll survive .. just saying . He could pursue a new life with Taka as an outsider not hunted by Konoha , i don't know , its very unclear.

Im not gonna even mention the fact that some imply that Naruto will make him hokage(SS Canon) take his belongings and become a traveler as Jiraiya . Its a shame .

[TouKen4Life3g]

 

That too.

It was a good idea to have Hinata give that speech the problem is it felt really strange and it was forced and a lot needed to happen in order for Hinata to get her moment.

Yeah, that's what I meant.

 

I don't know about that , a lot of people have been speculating that he will be redeemed and him and Naruto will rule together as Hashi and Madara spoke once in their flashback . I certainly want Sasuke to be redeemed ,but that doesn't mean that he'll survive .. just saying . He could pursue a new life with Taka as an outsider not hunted by Konoha , i don't know , its very unclear.

Im not gonna even mention the fact that some imply that Naruto will make him hokage(SS Canon) take his belongings and become a traveler as Jiraiya . Its a shame .

I'm not saying Naruto will kill Sasuke or he will die, but I strongly doubt that they will have open arm for him to return. At this rate, he should start over and make better name for himself for the world. Wanderer is what people are guessing and honestly, this could be the best direction that many will be ok with. If you noticed by now, this arc shows how Sasuke lost everyone's trust and now, the only one left is Naruto. If Naruto drops his trust, then Sasuke is just an empty shell. However, if Naruto still trust him after all this, then Sasuke can rebound and start building up again from that checkpoint. That's why I find it fitting that he will start over and be a hidden guardian that whenever Konoha gets in trouble, he will just pop up. If you read FT, that's exactly how a former criminal should start working on.

 

Oh and not everything got to be exact same situation. Naruto don't know this story.

Edited by NaruSaku4Life3g, 13 September 2013 - 04:34 PM.

[Psychox]

^Yep, i'm just saying what others imply and i agree with the wanderer deal too .^_^

[TouKen4Life3g]

^Yep, i'm just saying what others imply and i agree with the wanderer deal too .^_^

Good to know.

 

I'm just happy Minato didn't die here. I guess he will celebrate Naruto's birthday maybe but he will have a good sendoff.

[Dkey]

That still holds a lot, especially the stuff he has done. He won't get a huge sentence, but he will get one if being held. The fact he crashed the Kage Party is actually enough. That's like me going to White House and throw a shoe, it's still a crime. He invaded the government place and to make matter worse, he killed Danzou, who was still member of a government system. You could say, "Well he was controlled." That won't matter. Even in Fairy Tail got this right, and if that manga knows it, then you can't be naiive to think everything will be ok.

 

 

I think its somewhat okay not to have a NS moment ,because honestly , if we do then its all over for the opposing teams . Just a small gesture from Sakura->Naruto and voila it cuts the cord(s) with Sasuke .

 

 

Him leaving the village makes him automatically  a criminal and he is suppose to be killed right on the spot if seen. The fact that Tusnade kept him off the bingo book and away from Danzo 's sight was the only positive pulling him away from the dead list.

 

Thing is they have a practical aspect of law enforcement.

Sasuke takes out Deidara an Akatsuky agent, Konoha has no problem with it. He kills Itachi a known criminal and Akatusky again no problem for them.

The only time they considered him an enemy  was when he joined the Akatsuky and even then after attacking the lightning village and under pressure from it in order to bring peace. And probably Danzou had a desire for Sasuke to be eliminated for being an Uchiha and in case he found out the truth behind the Uchiha massacre.

 

There is no law system equivalent to the real one. And even if it was and the presidential pardon applied Naruto could've pardoned him. The only thing he needs to earn is acknowledgement from the village if he wants to have a leadership position.

[TouKen4Life3g]

I doubt it's that easy. The only way to erase is well maybe brute force. I think many of us believe it is easy to have him back when so far, Kishi has been making it hard to let everything go away. If anything , Sasuke is entering the second disappearing act from Madara. The first is when he left the village. The second is here which will lead Naruto and Sasuke to fight to the death.

Look, I know you guys established that Kishi is writing with a message, but sometimes, he would know the realistic approach. That said some of you are way overconfident that everything is sunshine and rainbow. Well, I would like to point out the moment where Sasuke shows his dark side or where he is growing anger that Naruto is stronger than him. I don't want to be "I told you so," but you making it too easy. I'm not that confident on his ending, but so should you. Be careful on what you believe in one theory.

[Psychox]

Good to know.

 

I'm just happy Minato didn't die here. I guess he will celebrate Naruto's birthday maybe but he will have a good sendoff.

 

We still don't know what kind of a gift he is gonna reward Naruto with , also Kishi is gonna keep him long enough till they eliminate Obito , but there is always a chance that he uses the Edo tensei against Naruto , i've thought about that possibility as well .
 

 

 

 

 

Thing is they have a practical aspect of law enforcement.

Sasuke takes out Deidara an Akatsuky agent, Konoha has no problem with it. He kills Itachi a known criminal and Akatusky again no problem for them.

The only time they considered him an enemy  was when he joined the Akatsuky and even then after attacking the lightning village and under pressure from it in order to bring peace. And probably Danzou had a desire for Sasuke to be eliminated for being an Uchiha and in case he found out the truth behind the Uchiha massacre.

 

There is no law system equivalent to the real one. And even if it was and the presidential pardon applied Naruto could've pardoned him. The only thing he needs to earn is acknowledgement from the village if he wants to have a leadership position.

 

That much is true , however leaving the village on a whim makes you an enemy since there is a potential of you backstabbing your birthplace as well as if you are killed the secrets of your body will be researched and learned . That's quite a thread . So they are hunted down and killed when there is an opportunity .

Gaining acknowledgment is gonna be a lot harder than that since people don't trust him except maybe for Naruto and he is on a scale . He doesn't care what they think of him nor he seeks their love so , yeah if Kishi wants him to enter and leave in the village he''ll take the position of NAurto,but i doubt that he'll be happy with it. I think he''ll act as Madara did ..

 

[DattebayoXShannaro]

I dont know how i feel about this adam and eve take in ninja world, but the sage looks like Naruto from the back so thats cool. Unfortunately this just keeps delaying NS. Also where the heck are the Kages?

 

They'll arrive soon.  Probably when their skills will be needed.

 

anybody noticed that sasuke didnt care when naruto was  criticaly injured by Obito he looked  him coldly

 

And everybody thought he became the good guy....

 

Sasuke is still a criminal. a criminal stays a criminal

 

Bolded:  I know the feeling.  I truly know the feeling.

 

He never said he was. When they all questioned him why is he in the battlefield, then tell him that he can't erase what he did in the past, he just said he don't care. That's how Naruto noticed that he's not clean. Throughout the fight, he hardly cares if anyone gets hurt or anything. Naruto always see anyone as a human being as Sasuke sees them a tool, especially the Edo Tensei. Yes, they can recover, but show some respect. It's like saying in DBZ, "Oh he's dead, but we can revive him," he still went through hell. If you ever noticed, he never display a protection moment, only to Naruto for a selfish reason. This one was highly covered in 644. He is so guilty in that scene. No excuses. 646 only boosts more to his display of care, which is just there while Naruto feels huge pain. This is a night and day comparison.

 

It's just other people from other forums were taking his words of protecting Konoha and implying to much.  The shock is people were divided whether it was a good thing or not.  Some even hated it, saying "Sasuke switches around too much.  He's never consistent with what he wants to do."  You can argue to them that they are taking the scene to literally, but they won't believe you.  On the many posts I saw on Manga Fox alone, only a few interpreted Sasuke's "change of heart" correctly.

 

I doubt it's that easy. The only way to erase is well maybe brute force. I think many of us believe it is easy to have him back when so far, Kishi has been making it hard to let everything go away. If anything , Sasuke is entering the second disappearing act from Madara. The first is when he left the village. The second is here which will lead Naruto and Sasuke to fight to the death.

Look, I know you guys established that Kishi is writing with a message, but sometimes, he would know the realistic approach. That said some of you are way overconfident that everything is sunshine and rainbow. Well, I would like to point out the moment where Sasuke shows his dark side or where he is growing anger that Naruto is stronger than him. I don't want to be "I told you so," but you making it too easy. I'm not that confident on his ending, but so should you. Be careful on what you believe in one theory.

 

I agree that Kishimoto shows some realism as well.  With Sasuke, as long as he's been gone, he does not have a future in Konoha, especially with the way he's portraying himself.

 

Bolded:  Some even use this as an excuse to disparage the story.  I've encountered them so many times.  It's not very hard to unfortunately.

Edited by DattebayoXShannaro, 13 September 2013 - 08:58 PM.

[Dkey]

 

We still don't know what kind of a gift he is gonna reward Naruto with , also Kishi is gonna keep him long enough till they eliminate Obito , but there is always a chance that he uses the Edo tensei against Naruto , i've thought about that possibility as well .
 

 

 

That much is true , however leaving the village on a whim makes you an enemy since there is a potential of you backstabbing your birthplace as well as if you are killed the secrets of your body will be researched and learned . That's quite a thread . So they are hunted down and killed when there is an opportunity .

Gaining acknowledgment is gonna be a lot harder than that since people don't trust him except maybe for Naruto and he is on a scale . He doesn't care what they think of him nor he seeks their love so , yeah if Kishi wants him to enter and leave in the village he''ll take the position of NAurto,but i doubt that he'll be happy with it. I think he''ll act as Madara did ..

 

 

Agreed probably if it was someone else that person would be hunted by the village but if his crime was so severe why was he so ignored. Maybe being an Uchiha the others ( counselors and Danzou) let it slide. Also they knew Itachi wasn't bad and feeding them information so that Sasuke won't be touched but the "crime" doesn't seem so huge. More like treated as a rogue agent. Only under pressure and then most as a decision of K9 would Sasuke become a target for Konoha. But K9 motivation is to turn Sasuke into a sacrifice for peace they don't hate him for some crimes. They don't trust him.