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[Sakamaki Izayoi]

Well, you are free to disagree, afterwards, I showed proof of what I claim.
She said she will trust him, indeed, but that doesn't mean that she will let Naruto handle Sasuke alone.
Anyway, I proved what I claimed, everyone is free to think however they want to.

Just saying one thing Sakura is driven by emotions i dont think she will do something because she wants to but because of her heart i really doubt that Naruto would face Sasuke alone i mean he will fight with people watching.

[Chucky-kun]

Just saying one thing Sakura is driven by emotions i dont think she will do something because she wants to but because of her heart i really doubt that Naruto would face Sasuke alone i mean he will fight with people watching.

So I'm guessing we all agree that Sakura and/or the K11 will be involved in the fight, but just to varying degrees.

[Sakamaki Izayoi]

So I'm guessing we all agree that Sakura and/or the K11 will be involved in the fight, but just to varying degrees.

I think they wont fight they will watch.
naruto wants to be acknowledged as an equal i cant see him being acknowledge with a lot of people fighting at his side.

[Chatte]

So I'm guessing we all agree that Sakura and/or the K11 will be involved in the fight, but just to varying degrees.

Exactly my point.

Just saying one thing Sakura is driven by emotions i dont think she will do something because she wants to but because of her heart i really doubt that Naruto would face Sasuke alone i mean he will fight with people watching.

Yes, but has anyone thought that this is exactly where her development leads to?
Kishi in an interview Sakura has to grow-up too. Looking at things, her grow-up will be connected more with Sasuke than Tsunade's death.
She needs to grow-up in mind.
Sakura and Tsunade's relationship were strictly master and student, whereas Jiraiya's and Shika's were more emotional bond.
Who is one of Sakura's strong emotional bond besides Naruto?
Yeap... Sasuke.

The one argument that really stood out for me from Chatte is the Mito/Sakura parallel. It makes quite alot of sense.

Yeah. The fight was mostly known as Madara vs. Hashirama, the biggest of the clashes.
However, it also mentions Mito's help. A third party's involvement, but not with the overall fight.
Same can be applied to Naruto vs Sasuke.
It will be mainly Naruto vs. Sasuke, however, at a certain point, maybe Naruto will need help with something.
But that won't outshine the overall fight who will be known as the second biggest fight in Ninja history.

Edited by Chatte, 04 January 2013 - 12:18 PM.

[Sakamaki Izayoi]

Exactly my point.

Yes, but has anyone thought that this is exactly where her development leads to?
Kishi in an interview Sakura has to grow-up too. Looking at things, her grow-up will be connected more with Sasuke than Tsunade's death.
She needs to grow-up in mind.

I dont think so, sasuke's development is about revenge if she went towards this way she would tried to revenge something like Ino's per example who tried to avenge her teacher's death this development of Tsunade's death would lead more to Naruto's than Sasuke.
Her bond with Naruto is bigger than Sasuke's.

Edited by Dαrkrєrsŧ, 04 January 2013 - 12:48 PM.

[Chatte]

I dont think so, sasuke's development is about revenge if she went towards this way she would tried to revenge something like Ino's per example who tried to avenge her teacher's death this development of Tsunade's death would lead more to Naruto's than Sasuke.
Her bond with Naruto is bigger than Sasuke's.

When I said more about Sasuke, I meant about the fact that she'll need to stand up for herself and not be all sad and helpless when she sees him. Not about the bonds. To be able to kittening kittenslap him, not "I thought I could do this", if you know what I mean.
I understand the meaning behind it, however, I think it's time for her to stand-up for herself.
Sorry if I didn't made that clear enough.

[Chucky-kun]

Exactly my point.

Yes, but has anyone thought that this is exactly where her development leads to?
Kishi in an interview Sakura has to grow-up too. Looking at things, her grow-up will be connected more with Sasuke than Tsunade's death.
She needs to grow-up in mind.
Sakura and Tsunade's relationship were strictly master and student, whereas Jiraiya's and Shika's were more emotional bond.
Who is one of Sakura's strong emotional bond besides Naruto?
Yeap... Sasuke.

Well her relationship with Sasuke is intertwined with his relationship with tsunade. It is because of Sasuke that she went to seek out tsunade in the first place. I guess we can see from her reactions to when tsunade was in the coma that she needed naruto's comfort, so I'm saying it was a bit more than teacher student.

[Sakamaki Izayoi]

When I said more about Sasuke, I meant about the fact that she'll need to stand up for herself and not be all sad and helpless when she sees him. Not about the bonds. To be able to kittening kittenslap him, not "I thought I could do this", if you know what I mean.
I understand the meaning behind it, however, I think it's time for her to stand-up for herself.
Sorry if I didn't made that clear enough.

No. she would kittenslap him if she does not love him anymore.

[Chatte]

No. she would kittenslap him if she does not love him anymore.

Well, let's hope that's where it will lead.
Dunno, that was a speculation from my part.
Sasuke is like her weakness she needs to overcome, that's why I think it will be connected to that, even if we like it or not.

Well her relationship with Sasuke is intertwined with his relationship with tsunade. It is because of Sasuke that she went to seek out tsunade in the first place. I guess we can see from her reactions to when tsunade was in the coma that she needed naruto's comfort, so I'm saying it was a bit more than teacher student.

True, however, it wasn't portrayed the same as Jiraiya's with Naruto and Shika's with Asuma. Though they still cared about one another.
They seem like some sort of soldiers to me, and the way she talks with "Yes M'am!" and how Tsunade always commands her.
Though it's clear they care one about the other one.
As for going to Tsunade, it was for both Naruto and Sasuke. Not only Sasuke.

Edited by Chatte, 04 January 2013 - 12:58 PM.

[Sakamaki Izayoi]

Well, let's hope that's where it will lead.
Dunno, that was a speculation from my part.
Sasuke is like her weakness she needs to overcome, that's why I think it will be connected to that, even if we like it or not.



True, however, it wasn't portrayed the same as Jiraiya's with Naruto and Shika's with Asuma. Though they still cared about one another.
They seem like some sort of soldiers to me, and the way she talks with "Yes M'am!" and how Tsunade always commands her.
Though it's clear they care one about the other one.
As for going to Tsunade, it was for both Naruto and Sasuke. Not only Sasuke.

Nope, it's different because for Shika it lead to revenge, Tsunade would not lead to revenge she will learn how is to lose a teacher like Naruto but the difference is that for Naruto the guy who killed him was still alive like Asuma.

[Chucky-kun]

Nope, it's different because for Shika it lead to revenge, Tsunade would not lead to revenge she will learn how is to lose a teacher like Naruto but the difference is that for Naruto the guy who killed him was still alive like Asuma.

With tsunade it might be "make sure you have no regrets"

[Chatte]

Nope, it's different because for Shika it lead to revenge, Tsunade would not lead to revenge she will learn how is to lose a teacher like Naruto but the difference is that for Naruto the guy who killed him was still alive like Asuma.

I wasn't referring at what it lead.
I was referring at their bonds before that.

Jiraiya spent time with Naruto and took care of him as his father, while Asuma always used to sit around and play Shougi with Shika. Tsunade's relationship with Sakura is portrayed as more strict than that and we always see Sakura around the library and stuff, but never with her master in the free time.

Hope you get what I meant. ^^

With tsunade it might be "make sure you have no regrets"

I can actually see that happening as she had the regret of losing Jiraiya after wanting to open her heart to him, as well, dat chapter name "The Last gamble" with the first page in color with Sakura's realization of Hinata's feelings for Naruto.
Feeeeeeshy!

Edited by Chatte, 04 January 2013 - 01:13 PM.

[Sakamaki Izayoi]

I wasn't referring at what it lead.
I was referring at their bonds before that.

Jiraiya spent time with Naruto and took care of him as his father, while Asuma always used to sit around and play Shougi with Shika. Tsunade's relationship with Sakura is portrayed as more strict than that and we always see Sakura around the library and stuff, but never with her master in the free time.

Hope you get what I meant. ^^

Nope because if it was Naruto would try to avenge his parents which he didnt, he dont hate kyuubi.
So no.

[Chatte]

Nope because if it was Naruto would try to avenge his parents which he didnt, he dont hate kyuubi.
So no.

I am not sure on what you are saying "no"....to be honest.

[Sakamaki Izayoi]

I am not sure on what you are saying "no"....to be honest.

you're saying that Tsunade dying would make her understand sasuke without any desire of revenge.
That's the problem Sakura never tried/feel what's revenge.}
A beloved one may die but it will bring only grieve not revenge desires.

[Chucky-kun]

Nope because if it was Naruto would try to avenge his parents which he didnt, he dont hate kyuubi.
So no.

Ending the cycle of hatred

[Sakamaki Izayoi]

Ending the cycle of hatred

so what this has to do with Sakura? Nothing.
Revenge, hatred is not about her.

[Chatte]

you're saying that Tsunade dying would make her understand sasuke without any desire of revenge.
That's the problem Sakura never tried/feel what's revenge.}
A beloved one may die but it will bring only grieve not revenge desires.

No, no, no. I didn't. Those were two different things. Sasuke bond and Tsunade bond.
Grr, let me rephrase that into a better post.
Be right back with an edit.

[Chucky-kun]

Now I'm confused ;_;

[Chatte]

Now I'm confused ;_;

Sorry for that.