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[TouKen4Life3g]

I also find AU Hinata to be more appealing, but are we really supposed to be sympathetic towards her? She did want to steal Naruto/Menma from Sakura right in her face during the party. That's not really something you're supposed to root for.

Then there's the whole deal with getting Sasuke and Sakura together so that she's out of the way from AU Hinata's romance with Naruto/Menma. It makes me wonder about how aware Pierrot is of the pairing wars.

That's what I'm thinking. Exactly, how much the studio knows about its audience from the west. It seems they are responsible to attract audience for their advertisements. So we may have took a bait. Nonetheless, it's rather strange.

Yeah, we are not supposed to root for Hinata. It's pretty harsh, especially rubbing in. Even so, it would have been amusing.

Edited by NaruSaku4Life3g, 27 April 2013 - 11:37 AM.

[Don-kun]

I also find AU Hinata to be more appealing, but are we really supposed to be sympathetic towards her? She did want to steal Naruto/Menma from Sakura right in her face during the party. That's not really something you're supposed to root for.

Then thered's the whole deal with getting Sasuke and Sakura together so that she's out of the way from AU Hinata's romance with Naruto/Menma. It makes me wonder about how aware Pierrot is of the pairing wars.

Bingo.
After this it connot be deny anymore that the anime team is very biased
towards NS while at the same time they are showing the reader how low
they sems to think about SS, how selfish and concerned mostly about herself is NH and her feelings for Naruto
not only that they also pointed how much better they feel about NS while taken a
jab at the Hinata is similar to Minato talk.



Sorry about my English am using my phone.

Edited by Don-kun, 27 April 2013 - 12:14 PM.

[HauntedCake]

Ughh the wait for the japaneese english sub version is killing me......

Must.....not...give....in...to....korean......version......[Restraining hand on mouse, hovering over the link to korean version]

[TouKen4Life3g]

Bingo.
After this it connot be deny anymore that the anime team is very biased
towards NS while at the same time they are showing the reader how low
they sems to think about SS, how selfish and concerned mostly about herself is NH and her feelings for Naruto
not only that they also pointed how much better they feel about NS while taken a
jab at the Hinata is similar to Minato talk.



Sorry about my English am using my phone.

Don't worry, I understood what you mean about that. Well, I guess this does solidify that the anime team is just very biased to NS. Good or bad, that's what they are. I find it funny how not so innocent Hinata love is in the AU!. I know it's AU! But she seems very selfish at it by making NS (MS) destroyed all in one go. Not to mention, Menma was supposedly to attend the party, running in in front of Sakura. I must say this is a fun material for romance comedy anime and happy that anime was able to ulitilize this potential.

Well, it does confirm that AU! Sakura is done with Sasuke, so the last remaining one is Menma, yet in movie and here suggested that they're more than we think. One thing for sure is that they're really close. I think Kishi truly did dodge a bullet by not having AU! Sakura in the same world. What's also funny is that Menma went back to normal, but not awake, so we don't know what would happen if he sees Sakura. The more I think about it, the more I do feel that Kishi truly did this on purpose. Because in a lot of other media, usually when they go parallel world, they usually end up together already, or they're still together but they're near. Example:

AU! Tsunade: Well, that's all for now. (AU!) Sakura, would you like to be a spokesperson for tonight's festival?
AU! Sakura: Haha, I have a plan already. With Menma.
Sakura: Eh, Team 7 stick together!
Naruto: Right.
Menma: Actually, it's just us two.
Sakura: Are you two going out on a first love date???
Menma: Oh no. It's our 2nd anniversary since we are lovers. *cue Minato-like smiles*
Naruto and Sakura: EH!!!!

I know, I did it for fun but you get what I'm trying to say (was going to say married but they are young).

[tricksie]

I thought this line from the movie translation was ironic:

ヒナタ：フフッ…ついにあの女があたしの恋路から退場するか…まったくメンマぞっこんラブのあたしと違ってとんだ尻軽だったようだな
Hinata: Fufuu... Finally that girl will be out the way of my romance. ...Seriously, seems unexpectingly fickle compared to my deep love for Menma

Sums up the whole NH pov about NS. Hinata's love is deep, but Sakura's is fickle. Like the writer's are having a laugh at the expense of the fans!

[Sakamaki Izayoi]

I thought this line from the movie translation was ironic:

ヒナタ：フフッ…ついにあの女があたしの恋路から退場するか…まったくメンマぞっこんラブのあたしと違ってとんだ尻軽だったようだな
Hinata: Fufuu... Finally that girl will be out the way of my romance. ...Seriously, seems unexpectingly fickle compared to my deep love for Menma

Sums up the whole NH pov about NS. Hinata's love is deep, but Sakura's is fickle. Like the writer's are having a laugh at the expense of the fans!

Fufuu reminds me of Godard from VH2 lol, but kinda weird i think give by her tone then Menma must love Sakura on the Au!world.

[TouKen4Life3g]

I thought this line from the movie translation was ironic:

ヒナタ：フフッ…ついにあの女があたしの恋路から退場するか…まったくメンマぞっこんラブのあたしと違ってとんだ尻軽だったようだな
Hinata: Fufuu... Finally that girl will be out the way of my romance. ...Seriously, seems unexpectingly fickle compared to my deep love for Menma

Sums up the whole NH pov about NS. Hinata's love is deep, but Sakura's is fickle. Like the writer's are having a laugh at the expense of the fans!

That's so true. I feel like they're like Capcom, as in knowing what the fans feel/know. Marvel vs. Capcom 3 is the prime example of this because in YouTube, there's a lot of funny moments revolve around the game, marvel, etc. Enter Deadpool, who actually quoted the infamous MvC2 video with the guy going nuts saying many random words. Not only that, but many other stuff that fans only know (Welcome to die!). That said the studio seems to know that there's a war ongoing in the west, so this CD is the example of their acknowledgement. I think due the fact we can't get those, they may have purposely place on the CD, but I could be wrong.

[coolcatjas]

I also find AU Hinata to be more appealing, but are we really supposed to be sympathetic towards her? She did want to steal Naruto/Menma from Sakura right in her face during the party. That's not really something you're supposed to root for.

Oh, nononono! I wouldn't root for AU!Hinata just more or so feel more sorry for her than canon Hinata. Hinata loves Naruto but doesn't do much to win his affections so that's her fault so I don't really feel sorry for her. AU!Hinata loves Menma but she tries hard to win his affections though fails due to her aggressive style towards which I feel more sympathetic but I still wouldn't want her to end up with Menma.

Anyway idk why but I could never hold a grudge against bullies if they have some sort of goodness in them. Like Kurumi in Kimi ni Todoke or Kasumi Aoi from Nobuta wo Produce. Even if they really hurt the protagonist emotionally or what have you I have to somewhat force myself to dislike/hate them but in the end the most I feel is slight annoyance :/

[TouKen4Life3g]

Oh, nononono! I wouldn't root for AU!Hinata just more or so feel more sorry for her than canon Hinata. Hinata loves Naruto but doesn't do much to win his affections so that's her fault so I don't really feel sorry for her. AU!Hinata loves Menma but she tries hard to win his affections though fails due to her aggressive style towards which I feel more sympathetic but I still wouldn't want her to end up with Menma.

Anyway idk why but I could never hold a grudge against bullies if they have some sort of goodness in them. Like Kurumi in Kimi ni Todoke or Kasumi Aoi from Nobuta wo Produce. Even if they really hurt the protagonist emotionally or what have you I have to somewhat force myself to dislike/hate them but in the end the most I feel is slight annoyance :/

I understand now. That's a good way to put it. Speaking of bullying, I never understood the whole anti-NS saying it's a bullying relationship. Until Naruto looks 100% seriously sad when Sakura says/does to him, NS is never a bullying thing. It's always made a joke, hence tsundere. Otherwise, I think a lot of anime/manga has bullying problem. Heck, that means I got a bullying issue by my own love. Sigh. The things to do in order to hate a pairing.

[redragon88]

I understand now. That's a good way to put it. Speaking of bullying, I never understood the whole anti-NS saying it's a bullying relationship. Until Naruto looks 100% seriously sad when Sakura says/does to him, NS is never a bullying thing. It's always made a joke, hence tsundere. Otherwise, I think a lot of anime/manga has bullying problem. Heck, that means I got a bullying issue by my own love. Sigh. The things to do in order to hate a pairing.

If Naruto really had an issue with Sakura he could simply block her or dodge. This is all for comedy so it was never meant to be taken seriously.

Unfortunately when there's almost no bad arguments to use against a pairing you start trying to twist facts in order to justify your hate. It's how it is.

[TouKen4Life3g]

If Naruto really had an issue with Sakura he could simply block her or dodge. This is all for comedy so it was never meant to be taken seriously.

Unfortunately when there's almost no bad arguments to use against a pairing you start trying to twist facts in order to justify your hate. It's how it is.

Yeah, that's where I'm annoyed. I can't do anything but sigh at it. Not only Naruto can dodge, but wouldn't you think Naruto would reflect this talking to Sai. Maybe like "How can I confess? She just doesn't like me?" I'll always say that I like Naruto for not blaming her for not making him confess, rather he blame it on his own. You may think "well that's not good," and you're right, but when it comes to relationship, it's not so bad because you're pretty much saying you have a great chance but you have to make a move. There's only one barrier but it's something that you feel must do before finally stepping in the next level. I mean if it was otherwise, then Sai should just say let her go. But even he sees there's no problem with NS, just Naruto. Not like he went there and tell Sakura that she treating him crap in friendship with beatings, loving another guy, etc.

The one that really got the problem is really SS. I'm not trying to bash it, but there are moments that really looks bad. Oddly enough, Kishi seems to play compare/contrast in the last arc by Naruto making her smile and Sasuke making her cry. I should stop here but yes, it's not in bad shape. Right now, Naruto and Sakura have their problems to deal with before finally become one and the problem is not with each other.

[coolcatjas]

I understand now. That's a good way to put it. Speaking of bullying, I never understood the whole anti-NS saying it's a bullying relationship. Until Naruto looks 100% seriously sad when Sakura says/does to him, NS is never a bullying thing. It's always made a joke, hence tsundere. Otherwise, I think a lot of anime/manga has bullying problem. Heck, that means I got a bullying issue by my own love. Sigh. The things to do in order to hate a pairing.

Maybe most of them don't get the classic comedy of a tsundere. I think Naruto along with Bleach and One Piece is one of those manga that people tend to start with. Therefor don't get tsuderes because they have little to no experience with them and tend to think their actions more serious than not. They think if a tsundere hits a guy it's terribly cruel but it's really all about light hearted comedy.

Anyway if their main source for Naruto is Anime and not manga they probably have an even worse impression of NS because the anime team loves to exaggerate Sakura's punches and due to fillers she punches him more often. In the manga how many chapters has it been since Sakura really hit Naruto...?

[TouKen4Life3g]

Maybe most of them don't get the classic comedy of a tsundere. I think Naruto along with Bleach and One Piece is one of those manga that people tend to start with. Therefor don't get tsuderes because they have little to no experience with them and tend to think their actions more serious than not. They think if a tsundere hits a guy it's terribly cruel but it's really all about light hearted comedy.

Anyway if their main source for Naruto is Anime and not manga they probably have an even worse impression of NS because the anime team loves to exaggerate Sakura's punches and due to fillers she punches him more often. In the manga how many chapters has it been since Sakura really hit Naruto...?

It's been a while, though I think one is coming in this war because right now, Naruto is really pushing it. But really, it's not a bad thing because it's comedy, and I like it. That does seem to be the case for many because perhaps Naruto is the first anime. Imagine if they first start off with Love Hina. Then come back to me about tsundere. Or FMP. We know that there are much worse moments.

[HauntedCake]

When sakura hits Naruto it's always out of caring for him so much she can't express her concerns in words. so she gets frustrated and hits him

More efficient in Naruto's case

[Zatheko]

When sakura hits Naruto it's always out of caring for him so much she can't express her concerns in words. so she gets frustrated and hits him

More efficient in Naruto's case

Definitely works better then "N-Naruto-kun!"

[TouKen4Life3g]

When sakura hits Naruto it's always out of caring for him so much she can't express her concerns in words. so she gets frustrated and hits him

More efficient in Naruto's case

Exactly. They say the one who hits the guy the most usually a clueless love, but yeah, many guys like it rough.

Definitely works better then "N-Naruto-kun!"

Indeed.

[FoolishYoungling]

Exactly. They say the one who hits the guy the most usually a clueless love, but yeah, many guys like it rough.

Bolded: Don't we all?

[TouKen4Life3g]

Bolded: Don't we all?

I know I do.

[MoonStar]

I've only seen about 10 seconds. The subs are a little weird and apparently it goes out of sync with the sound later in the video. Just thought I'd post it either way. I'm fine with waiting for the 1080p release later on.

Edited by MoonStar, 27 April 2013 - 10:15 PM.

[HauntedCake]

I've only seen about 10 seconds. The subs are a little weird and apparently it goes out of sync with the sound later in the video. Just thought I'd post it either way. I'm fine with waiting for the 1080p release later on.

I cant see anything.....

Is it the japaneese english subbed???