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#7981 luffyq1

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Posted 04 January 2013 - 08:55 AM

QUOTE (xxRomanceGirlxx @ Jan 4 2013, 08:20 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I'd like to respond to this if that's alright. smile.gif Naruto rejecting Hinata ... well, I don't think he's good at that kind of stuff. He's never actually rejected anyone's feelings in romance before (Unless you count Sakura's confession but that's a different scenerio) which is why I feel like he, as mean as it sounds, was avoiding responding to Hinata's confession completely. I guess if Hinata continues to pop up so much, interact with him or force herself in his line of sight (Hello 615) instead of being in the background where he could easily avoid the topic he'd be forced to. However, I guess because of what she did in 615, Naruto might stop avoiding her confession 'cause she legitly deserves a answer (More so than before). So I think he may reject her sometime soon. Or Hinata could realize Naruto loves Sakura, not her and therefore leave him be with her feelings. The latter seems more likely.

Of course, this is only if Naruto doesn't have feelings for Hinata. We can't be certain. It's important to mention that. happy.gif


Good point. Avoiding that specific subject could be the reason why he's avoiding her confession. But have you ever thought that it could be due to Naruto being the blockhead that he is? I think further interaction with Hinata will remind him of her confession, like in 559. Even though he didn't specifically remember her confession, he remembered her rescue attempt because it was related to the conversation they were having. Maybe another specific event will cause him to remember her confession, and therefore addressing it. Who knows, but your reason does seem very likely.

QUOTE (NaruSaku4Life3g @ Jan 4 2013, 08:28 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I always felt like there won't be answer done in conversation, rather done by actions Hinata may witness. I would wait until this arc ends because it all depends if Naruto and Sakura interact in this battle. There are anime/manga that simply ignores the side character's love story (though Shoujo usually involves them), so don't be surprise if that could happen here. That said I am wondering why her confession has been scratched off in media lately. Only us fans know about it and keep focusing on this. Even Sakura's confession got a lot of attention, so why not Hinata's.


Great possible scenario. I really like this idea. What if the rejection will play out in similar way of the hug in 450? But only this time, it will be a clear physical romantic display of their love. Only problem is that it's going to take Sakura to realize if she loves Naruto or not. But if she does come to realize she loves Naruto, I think we will get her answer near the very end of the series, seeing as Kishi loves to play the back-and-forth game with the fandoms.

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Posted 04 January 2013 - 09:22 AM

Can I put my two cents about Sakura not getting involved in bringing back Sasuke? Don't wanna start a fight or anything, we are still not sure what will happen, however, Sakura will be involved.
Let's not forget this:



I think Kishi didn't put this there for nothing...

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Posted 04 January 2013 - 09:27 AM

QUOTE (Chatte @ Jan 4 2013, 09:22 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Can I put my two cents about Sakura not getting involved in bringing back Sasuke? Don't wanna start a fight or anything, we are still not sure what will happen, however, Sakura will be involved.
Let's not forget this:



I think Kishi didn't put this there for nothing...


Just as you've presented scenes that foreshadows Sakura's involvement, there are clear and recent scenes, I might add, that contradict it.

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Posted 04 January 2013 - 09:29 AM

luffy if you don't mind may I ask what those scenes are?

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Posted 04 January 2013 - 09:32 AM

QUOTE (luffyq1 @ Jan 4 2013, 09:27 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Just as you've presented scenes that foreshadow Sakura's involvement, there are clear and recent scenes, I might add, that contradict it.


All those scenes were before the last part showing Sakura will be involved and they'll do it together.

Look at it, Naruto was about to throw his life just to save Sasuke, yet, he's learning in this war that his life is not his own, that his life is important to others as well and he finally gets that. So as I see it, it kinda leads to what Sakura says.
They're all going to fight with Naruto.
Remember when Naruto didn't want to tell the K11 about the whole situation with Sasuke, when he tried to keep them backed-up? Sakura knew back then he was hiding something and she saw for herself K11 (now 10) wanted to help him, yet he denied.

Well, all this, leads to the fact that Naruto won't fight Sasuke alone, as I am pretty sure Sasuke won't fight alone either.

Yes, it will be mainly Naruto vs. Sasuke, but let's remember Naruto has other on his side, as well as Sasuke.

And Sakura, like it was back when all this started, is the connection between them.

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Posted 04 January 2013 - 09:33 AM

QUOTE (luffyq1 @ Jan 4 2013, 05:55 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Good point. Avoiding that specific subject could be the reason why he's avoiding her confession. But have you ever thought that it could be due to Naruto being the blockhead that he is? I think further interaction with Hinata will remind him of her confession, like in 559. Even though he didn't specifically remember her confession, he remembered her rescue attempt because it was related to the conversation they were having. Maybe another specific event will cause him to remember her confession, and therefore addressing it. Who knows, but your reason does seem very likely.


I have considered him completely forgetting her confession in the past and I admit, I sort of found that idea amusing. sweat.gif I thought "If Naruto forgot her confession, how huge a troll would that be for NaruHina?" However, I believe he does remember her confession and was avoiding it because it was an uncomfortable topic for him. My support to this is how Naruto didn't seem surprised the entire time she was touching his face in 615. His expression was generic but receptive. If he didn't know about her feelings, he would have IMO looked confused at the close contact. But who knows, you could be right too. happy.gif

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Posted 04 January 2013 - 09:42 AM

QUOTE (Don-kun @ Jan 4 2013, 09:50 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I agree with this, if Hinata is not meant to be with Naruto she might be an influence for NS, I don't see Naruto rejecting Hinata in any way form, it might be she noticing something or she thanking him for being a great friend, that is only if NH is not meant to happen.

Since I don't like to mark any pairing has dead.

I dont know why nobody can see naruto rejecting hinata. For sure he can tell her in a nice way that hes in love with sakura and maybe hinta is happy for him and thanks him that he always encouraged her and showed her the right way. I dont think this would come over bad or something like that from narutos side. Yeah maybe hinata is the one who realizes that naruto loves someone else, but naruto can also reject her.

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Posted 04 January 2013 - 09:55 AM

QUOTE (PhenixElite @ Jan 4 2013, 05:42 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I dont know why nobody can see naruto rejecting hinata. For sure he can tell her in a nice way that hes in love with sakura and maybe hinta is happy for him and thanks him that he always encouraged her and showed her the right way. I dont think this would come over bad or something like that from narutos side. Yeah maybe hinata is the one who realizes that naruto loves someone else, but naruto can also reject her.


I honestly have trouble picturing it. Naruto's such a nice guy, I just don't think he's cut out for rejections. He'd worry too much about Hinata's feelings. Also why I believe he avoided her confession. That's exactly why I find a true rejection a bit too blunt for Kishi's style and Hinata realizing on her own that Naruto doesn't have feelings for her seems better. Like coming up to him and saying "I understand Naruto-kun. It's Sakura-san. She's the person you ... it's fine. Thank you so much for giving me more confidence." Not only does that seem more likely, it also puts Hinata in a very mature light. Bunches of character development for her I guess.

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Posted 04 January 2013 - 10:11 AM

QUOTE (xxRomanceGirlxx @ Jan 4 2013, 10:55 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I honestly have trouble picturing it. Naruto's such a nice guy, I just don't think he's cut out for rejections. He'd worry too much about Hinata's feelings. Also why I believe he avoided her confession. That's exactly why I find a true rejection a bit too blunt for Kishi's style and Hinata realizing on her own that Naruto doesn't have feelings for her seems better. Like coming up to him and saying "I understand Naruto-kun. It's Sakura-san. She's the person you ... it's fine. Thank you so much for giving me more confidence." Not only does that seem more likely, it also puts Hinata in a very mature light. Bunches of character development for her I guess.

Yeah, youre right i also think that would be the better way to show it, but who knows i could also see naruto doing so sonce hes a very honest person.

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Posted 04 January 2013 - 10:29 AM

QUOTE (neoshadow @ Jan 4 2013, 09:29 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
luffy if you don't mind may I ask what those scenes are?


Chapter 487:

Sakura - "I can't do anything. I can't say anything. All I can do...Is have faith in them." Basically, she believes in the Naruto that believes in Sasuke.
Kakashi - "...All right...I'll leave Sasuke to you...Naruto."

Chapter 488:

Naruto - "Anyway, no else can fight Sasuke now. I'm the only one who can fight him...That's all."

Chapter 552:

Itachi - "I'll leave Sasuke to you".

QUOTE (Chatte @ Jan 4 2013, 09:32 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
All those scenes were before the last part showing Sakura will be involved and they'll do it together.


And there are recent scenes that have the same serious level of atmosphere that contradicts it.

QUOTE (Chatte @ Jan 4 2013, 09:32 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Look at it, Naruto was about to throw his life just to save Sasuke, yet, he's learning in this war that his life is not his own, that his life is important to others as well and he finally gets that. So as I see it, it kinda leads to what Sakura says.


Yep, that lesson is being hammered into his head. But no, dying in a fight facing off against Sasuke is different.

QUOTE (Chatte @ Jan 4 2013, 09:32 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
They're all going to fight with Naruto.


They'll help him fight in the war. But when it comes to Sasuke it will be left to Naruto. I think the scenario leading up to their fight will play out in a similar way in part 1 of the series. Sakura will say some words to Naruto before he goes off, and then the fight between Naruto and Sasuke will commence.

QUOTE (Chatte @ Jan 4 2013, 09:32 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Remember when Naruto didn't want to tell the K11 about the whole situation with Sasuke, when he tried to keep them backed-up? Sakura knew back then he was hiding something and she saw for herself K11 (now 10) wanted to help him, yet he denied.


That scene with the K11 was mainly about why Naruto didn't finish Sasuke off when he had the chance. Kiba & Neji both stress that point out. Yes, Sakura knew Naruto was hiding something. But look closely at that panel, it actually focuses on Naruto's statement about "dying together with Sasuke", not the fact that he's going to fight him alone. There's clear difference. That's why she's worried.

QUOTE (Chatte @ Jan 4 2013, 09:32 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Well, all this, leads to the fact that Naruto won't fight Sasuke alone, as I am pretty sure Sasuke won't fight alone either.


I'm sorry, but no. My evidence that support my claims pretty much outweigh your evidential claim that it'll be a tag team match. I kinda like that idea, but seeing a rematch of Naruto vs. Sasuke is what I really want. No one else. There can be spectators, but no one is to interfere. Kishi has been giving both boys some power-ups for their final clash.

QUOTE (Chatte @ Jan 4 2013, 09:32 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Yes, it will be mainly Naruto vs. Sasuke, but let's remember Naruto has other on his side, as well as Sasuke.

And Sakura, like it was back when all this started, is the connection between them.


Sure they have others on their side. But the idea of tag team between Taka and team 7 is just fans speculation.

QUOTE (xxRomanceGirlxx @ Jan 4 2013, 09:33 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I have considered him completely forgetting her confession in the past and I admit, I sort of found that idea amusing. sweat.gif I thought "If Naruto forgot her confession, how huge a troll would that be for NaruHina?" However, I believe he does remember her confession and was avoiding it because it was an uncomfortable topic for him. My support to this is how Naruto didn't seem surprised the entire time she was touching his face in 615. His expression was generic but receptive. If he didn't know about her feelings, he would have IMO looked confused at the close contact. But who knows, you could be right too. happy.gif


Wow, didn't consider that. Good point. Also, as a NS fan, are you worried that this is the first time that Hinata has gotten so physically close to Naruto, especially considering that the series is coming towards an end?

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Posted 04 January 2013 - 10:46 AM

QUOTE (Haaky @ Jan 2 2013, 12:16 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I'm NaruSaku shipper, I just see what's in the manga. Sakura has been like Kushiena personally
untill now and still is. I don't deny those facts. Just look at my signature pic. I knew this a long time ago.
But Hinatas recent behavior has been changing lately. Like the slap on his face to wake him up,
that is not really comic relief like it used to be with Sakura, but it's not ignoreable.
Also Hinata jumped in front of Naruto, then Neji jumped in front of Hinata.
Kinda like Kushiena and Minato did, the kyubi even stated this to make it clear.
And I believe that change, could make Naruto view Hinata difrently than he did before.

Answer: I know that hinata wants her strenght to be recognized but where do you see kushina that way??????
I dunno the fact the she was bullied and shouted out "I want to be the next Hokage"
Seems like she wants recognizion to me.


And this is why Naruto is only going to see Naruto as a sister. The way his parents jumped in front of him is similar to Neji and Hinata. He has never consider a female his generation to be sister and filial like.

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Posted 04 January 2013 - 10:48 AM

QUOTE (luffyq1 @ Jan 4 2013, 11:29 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Wow, didn't consider that. Good point. Also, as a NS fan, are you worried that this is the first time that Hinata has gotten so physically close to Naruto, especially considering that the series is coming towards an end?


If you don't mind I'd like to answer this. No it had to happen for Hinata, I think most would say that they knew it was going to happen better now than in the final few chapters, in a way you could see this as NH development or you could see it as the last push for Hinata, her confession showed Naruto that she loves him, which hasn't been brought back up, and now she's closer than shes ever been, if Naruto doesn't return anything now then I don't think there is any chance he ever will. I've long thought that the war will be used to fulfill pretty much all of the secondary characters development Hinata included, admittedly I could end up regretting what I think over the next few weeks as more chapters come out but at the moment no I'm not worried.

On your post about Sakura's lack of involvement coming up, I agree I don't believe for a second she will be involved in the fight between Naruto and Sasuke, they have been set up as the rivalry, its Hashirama vs Madara not a repeat of the Sannin in part 1 (as much as I would love it to be). But I do believe she will be heavily involved in the arc and the events just not the fight itself, I don't really have proof though except for how important Sakura is whenever Team 7 is at the focus. Her and Naruto are the ones championing a peaceful resolution and a future where Team 7 will laugh again, added with what Chatte posted about what she promised them I doubt she will just be passive, but you are right she has left Sasuke to Naruto he is the only one who can get through to him.

On that note I don't get why some say that Sakura won't get anything due to the most recent chapters focusing on Hinata and how long ago the chapter that Chatte posted happened but Kishi has a habit of planning things well in advance. Take Gaara for example, before the war how many really believed he would get resolution with his father, mother and uncle? They weren't needed, they informed who he used to be but not who he chose to be after meeting Naruto, the development happened and he made peace with the past but Kishi chose to do it anyway so whats to say he wont make good on his promise to make Sakura more of a heroine and fulfill what she said she would do in a chapter that isn't even a year old.

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Posted 04 January 2013 - 11:07 AM

QUOTE (luffyq1 @ Jan 4 2013, 09:29 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Also, as a NS fan, are you worried that this is the first time that Hinata has gotten so physically close to Naruto, especially considering that the series is coming towards an end?

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Posted 04 January 2013 - 11:19 AM

QUOTE (luffyq1 @ Jan 4 2013, 06:29 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Wow, didn't consider that. Good point. Also, as a NS fan, are you worried that this is the first time that Hinata has gotten so physically close to Naruto, especially considering that the series is coming towards an end?


In some ways, I am. Can't lie about that. I am willingly admitting now that NaruHina's chances are not next to nothing anymore. And I'm not happy with it at all. But I'm considering all options. It wouldn't make sense if Naruto started loving Hinata out of blue like this. His feelings aren't supposed to change easily. He has loved Sakura throughout the entire series. Not even her feelings for Sasuke changed that. So some part of me heavily doubts just because Hinata is having a spotlight = "OMG! Naruto will fall in love with her now!!! NaruHina canon!" It's just so ... forced and absolutely terribly writing. confused.gif NS has been the leading pairing for so long, Kishi's developed it perfectly ... why NH? Exactly. It's because it's so late in the game NaruHina happening now would be senseless. Naruto has loved Sakura since forever ... it's now in the 600s. Wouldn't it be a little too late to change his mind? And it could also be Hinata development. We simply don't know yet.

NaruHina can happen with this chapter. I grudgingly admit to that. But it can still be Hinata growing a little which IMO opinion makes more sense to the storyline. But maybe I'm completely wrong. This means NaruHina is the endgame. Hard to say for sure.

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Posted 04 January 2013 - 11:20 AM

QUOTE (luffyq1 @ Jan 4 2013, 11:29 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Yep, that lesson is being hammered into his head. But no, dying in a fight facing off against Sasuke is different.


It's not different. It means throwing up his life. Yes, circumstances might be different, however, the outcome is the same. Naruto giving his life. No one will let Naruto do that, especially Sakura.



QUOTE (luffyq1 @ Jan 4 2013, 11:29 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
They'll help him fight in the war. But when it comes to Sasuke it will be left to Naruto. I think the scenario leading up to their fight will play out in a similar way in part 1 of the series. Sakura will say some words to Naruto before he goes off, and then the fight between Naruto and Sasuke will commence.


Overall, of course it will be left to Naruto, however, I don't think Sakura will have no implications. Yes, she said she has faith in them, not that she'll not do something about it. Remember that every since end of Part 1 and beginning of Shippuden, Sakura wanted to do it along Naruto, to do it together so he won't have to do this out alone, they're both part of Team 7, she's always been feeling guilty for letting Naruto go alone in Part 1 after Sasuke.
So, yes, she might not be fully involved in their clash, however, she'll play her part.

See, you dismissed my speculation with Team Taka and everything, yet you made your own speculation. How comes your is more right than mine? This is one thing I dislike mostly. People saying you're not right, it's speculation, totally dismissing it, when they, themselves doing the same thing.

Luffy, I always enjoyed your posts every since I came here and you know I have agreed with you in some occasions and in some, not.

This is one of them.

Fine if you don't agree with me, but don't tell me I'm only speculating when you're doing the exact same thing.


QUOTE (luffyq1 @ Jan 4 2013, 11:29 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
That scene with the K11 was mainly about why Naruto didn't finish Sasuke off when he had the chance. Kiba & Neji both stress that point out. Yes, Sakura knew Naruto was hiding something. But look closely at that panel, it actually focuses on Naruto's statement about "dying together with Sasuke", not the fact that he's going to fight him alone. There's clear difference. That's why she's worried.


Actually, it was about after the clash they had... They knew he had met Sasuke and the fact that they will have to face him.



Hence the you're going to fight Sasuke alone.

The only one stressing what you said, was Neji.



Overall, they were talking about Naruto vs. Sasuke and the fact that they won't let him do it alone, even if he wants to.

Yes, he still continued about the only one who is fighting Sasuke is me and yes, Sakura was thinking about that thing we're both going to die, that's why she was thinking in 573 about all fighting together.

In 573 was about everyone's feelings leading towards Naruto, not the situation.

This:



Is connected to this:



Because Sakura will be together with him, because Sakura won't let Naruto fight alone if that means getting himself killed.

Yes, the clash will be between them, but did it occured to you, that, maybe, their clash will be the new Three Way of Offence and Defense? The New Neo Sannins? I have a theory about this, yeah, might be pure speculation, however it fits some patterns.

Anyway, the idea is that from what we are presented overall, yes, Sasuke has been entrusted to Naruto to save him, but nowhere it said for sure that he'll fight him alone. And from what it seems, he won't.



QUOTE (luffyq1 @ Jan 4 2013, 11:29 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I'm sorry, but no. My evidence that support my claims pretty much outweigh your evidential claim that it'll be a tag team match. I kinda like that idea, but seeing a rematch of Naruto vs. Sasuke is what I really want. No one else. There can be spectators, but no one is to interfere. Kishi has been giving both boys some power-ups for their final clash.


As I said, you dismiss my speculation, yet, you're praising yours.
And as I showed you, I have evidential claims that might out-weight yours.
So, please, drop the dead-diva attitude. Or how was the term? Sorry, English is not my first language, as you all know and my country shows it.
What you really want is not what you really might get. We all want NS cannon. Did that happen and went as we wanted? Until now, no.
Yes, Kishi has been giving both power-ups, but that doesn't mean in the meantime Sakura won't get it in order to be helpful to Naruto. As for now, Naruto has no counter to Amaterasu and the fact that the Kyuubi can be controlled via Genjutsu. We saw in Sasuke's meet with Kurama inside Naruto that the Kyuubi said Sasuke has a more sinister chakra than him.
This is where Sakura might be helpful to Naruto.
Yes, pure speculation from my part, but not totally out of the ordinary. Let's not forget that she was foreshadowed as the second Tsunade, Katsuyu will be automatically hers, or another slug, and slugs were shown to be highly resistant to high damage. Maybe this is where comes the counter for Amaterasu, for example.
As well, Sakura might get him out of genjutsu, as it was a bit foreshadowed back in Itachi meeting.
Yes, speculations, once again, but not out of the ordinary.

So my request is, next time when you speculate something, don't dismiss other's speculation, because in the end, we're both speculating. Doesn't matter how much it weights.


QUOTE (luffyq1 @ Jan 4 2013, 11:29 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Sure they have others on their side. But the idea of tag team between Taka and team 7 is just fans speculation.


Team Taka is meeting Sasuke (Karin is on her way). Sakura said he won't fight alone.
I'd call that foreshadowing more than speculating.

But once again, don't throw in my face I am speculating when you're doing the same thing as well.

And one more think to add. Madara (Sasuke) vs Hashirama (Naruto).
As we all know, Hashirama had help in the fight with the Kyuubi factor from Mito.
So there was a female involved, a third party.
What makes people believe Sakura won't be a third party in that fight?

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Posted 04 January 2013 - 11:26 AM

QUOTE (Chatte @ Jan 4 2013, 10:20 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
It's not different. It means throwing up his life. Yes, circumstances might be different, however, the outcome is the same. Naruto giving his life. No one will let Naruto do that, especially Sakura.





Overall, of course it will be left to Naruto, however, I don't think Sakura will have no implications. Yes, she said she has faith in them, not that she'll not do something about it. Remember that every since end of Part 1 and beginning of Shippuden, Sakura wanted to do it along Naruto, to do it together so he won't have to do this out alone, they're both part of Team 7, she's always been feeling guilty for letting Naruto go alone in Part 1 after Sasuke.
So, yes, she might not be fully involved in their clash, however, she'll play her part.

See, you dismissed my speculation with Team Taka and everything, yet you made your own speculation. How comes your is more right than mine? This is one thing I dislike mostly. People saying you're not right, it's speculation, totally dismissing it, when they, themselves doing the same thing.

Luffy, I always enjoyed your posts every since I came here and you know I have agreed with you in some occasions and in some, not.

This is one of them.

Fine if you don't agree with me, but don't tell me I'm only speculating when you're doing the exact same thing.




Actually, it was about after the clash they had... They knew he had met Sasuke and the fact that they will have to face him.



Hence the you're going to fight Sasuke alone.

The only one stressing what you said, was Neji.



Overall, they were talking about Naruto vs. Sasuke and the fact that they won't let him do it alone, even if he wants to.

Yes, he still continued about the only one who is fighting Sasuke is me and yes, Sakura was thinking about that thing we're both going to die, that's why she was thinking in 573 about all fighting together.

In 573 was about everyone's feelings leading towards Naruto, not the situation.

This:



Is connected to this:



Because Sakura will be together with him, because Sakura won't let Naruto fight alone if that means getting himself killed.

Yes, the clash will be between them, but did it occured to you, that, maybe, their clash will be the new Three Way of Offence and Defense? The New Neo Sannins? I have a theory about this, yeah, might be pure speculation, however it fits some patterns.

Anyway, the idea is that from what we are presented overall, yes, Sasuke has been entrusted to Naruto to save him, but nowhere it said for sure that he'll fight him alone. And from what it seems, he won't.





As I said, you dismiss my speculation, yet, you're praising yours.
And as I showed you, I have evidential claims that might out-weight yours.
So, please, drop the dead-diva attitude. Or how was the term? Sorry, English is not my first language, as you all know and my country shows it.
What you really want is not what you really might get. We all want NS cannon. Did that happen and went as we wanted? Until now, no.
Yes, Kishi has been giving both power-ups, but that doesn't mean in the meantime Sakura won't get it in order to be helpful to Naruto. As for now, Naruto has no counter to Amaterasu and the fact that the Kyuubi can be controlled via Genjutsu. We saw in Sasuke's meet with Kurama inside Naruto that the Kyuubi said Sasuke has a more sinister chakra than him.
This is where Sakura might be helpful to Naruto.
Yes, pure speculation from my part, but not totally out of the ordinary. Let's not forget that she was foreshadowed as the second Tsunade, Katsuyu will be automatically hers, or another slug, and slugs were shown to be highly resistant to high damage. Maybe this is where comes the counter for Amaterasu, for example.
As well, Sakura might get him out of genjutsu, as it was a bit foreshadowed back in Itachi meeting.
Yes, speculations, once again, but not out of the ordinary.

So my request is, next time when you speculate something, don't dismiss other's speculation, because in the end, we're both speculating. Doesn't matter how much it weights.




Team Taka is meeting Sasuke (Karin is on her way). Sakura said he won't fight alone.
I'd call that foreshadowing more than speculating.

But once again, don't throw in my face I am speculating when you're doing the same thing as well.

And one more think to add. Madara (Sasuke) vs Hashirama (Naruto).
As we all know, Hashirama had help in the fight with the Kyuubi factor from Mito.
So there was a female involved, a third party.
What makes people believe Sakura won't be a third party in that fight?

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Posted 04 January 2013 - 11:34 AM

QUOTE (Chucky-kun @ Jan 4 2013, 12:26 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
The burn is strong in this one.


My appologies if I went a bit too far, but I find it very disrespecting when someone tells me not to do a thing that they do it as well.
At least let's show a bit of respect, shall we?

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Posted 04 January 2013 - 11:57 AM

QUOTE (luffyq1 @ Jan 3 2013, 11:50 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Kishi has done more illogical things. People should stop crying over the idea that Kishi will make NH canon when they have little development compared to NS. I'm sure he is not thinking about that. There are much more important things in this manga than who has the most development. Sorry but it's the truth.

Luffy is right stop calling him a troll.
First off about Sakura look, she wanted to help sasuke on part 1 most of SS is from there but it just made her look selfish, that curse mark stuff Sasuke was ignorant towards her, even she worrying which she worried about Naruto too on part 1, does not change the fact that he was a jerk towards Sakura.

About the whole thing i prefer to wait the rest of the arc, to make a conclusion and he's right kishi did a lot of illogical stuff like Sakura still loving Sasuke despite the murder attempts, Karin the same, and Ino who does nto even has development still loves Sasuke, even if NH and SS happen would be trash and he cant deny it.
about Itachi i doubt she will know about this because Naruto cant tell her because of itachi's sacrifice, only Sasuke may tell her about it, but i dont think he will talk to her on 1 to 1.
Tsunade may die but if she shows development she would not show empathy towards Sasuke she will say that he's wrong.

Luffy has rights to think the way he's thinking he's not trolling try to be reasonable with his posts, i understand him he has a point.
The problem is kishi may be holding the definition until the end.
But it's screwing Sakura's character, Naruto didnt show any romantic intents towards Hinata it's proved but until now, and if he shows so the manga love story would be complete screwed.

QUOTE (luffyq1 @ Jan 4 2013, 04:02 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
We've already been through the process of Naruto being in pain over the fact that Sakura loves Sasuke. Then years later we see Naruto not in pain at all over the fact that Sakura is in love with Sasuke. He's coped with that idea. It no longer bothers him.

I'm sorry but it really bothers the way he said "but she loves Sasuke too much" on a sad way.

@Chatte i'm sorry but i have to disagree with you on the ending of the meeting with Sasuke she says that she will let Naruto handle Sasuke what bothers her is the part that he said that he would die.

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Posted 04 January 2013 - 12:08 PM

QUOTE (Dαrkrєrsŧ @ Jan 4 2013, 12:57 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
@Chatte i'm sorry but i have to disagree with you on the ending of the meeting with Sasuke she says that she will let Naruto handle Sasuke what bothers her is the part that he said that he would die.


Well, you are free to disagree, afterwards, I showed proof of what I claim.
She said she will trust him, indeed, but that doesn't mean that she will let Naruto handle Sasuke alone.
Anyway, I proved what I claimed, everyone is free to think however they want to.

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Posted 04 January 2013 - 12:09 PM

QUOTE (Dαrkrєrsŧ @ Jan 4 2013, 10:57 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Luffy is right stop calling him a troll.
First off about Sakura look, she wanted to help sasuke on part 1 most of SS is from there but it just made her look selfish, that curse mark stuff Sasuke was ignorant towards her, even she worrying which she worried about Naruto too on part 1, does not change the fact that he was a jerk towards Sakura.

About the whole thing i prefer to wait the rest of the arc, to make a conclusion and he's right kishi did a lot of illogical stuff like Sakura still loving Sasuke despite the murder attempts, Karin the same, and Ino who does nto even has development still loves Sasuke, even if NH and SS happen would be trash and he cant deny it.
about Itachi i doubt she will know about this because Naruto cant tell her because of itachi's sacrifice, only Sasuke may tell her about it, but i dont think he will talk to her on 1 to 1.
Tsunade may die but if she shows development she would not show empathy towards Sasuke she will say that he's wrong.

Luffy has rights to think the way he's thinking he's not trolling try to be reasonable with his posts, i understand him he has a point.
The problem is kishi may be holding the definition until the end.
But it's screwing Sakura's character, Naruto didnt show any romantic intents towards Hinata it's proved but until now, and if he shows so the manga love story would be complete screwed.


I'm sorry but it really bothers the way he said "but she loves Sasuke too much" on a sad way.

@Chatte i'm sorry but i have to disagree with you on the ending of the meeting with Sasuke she says that she will let Naruto handle Sasuke what bothers her is the part that he said that he would die.

The one argument that really stood out for me from Chatte is the Mito/Sakura parallel. It makes quite alot of sense.

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