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[trang95]

You must train your eyes...Also you can see the hit marks and his ankles and elbows are f**cked up.

As if we are not used to seeing Shioon half of the time in that state by now U_U

[Gaara's hair]

As if we are not used to seeing Shioon half of the time in that state by now U_U

I know..."again? Same old Shioon! Now hurry up and heal. Another power up is awaiting you"

[trang95]

I know..."again? Same old Shioon! Now hurry up and heal. Another power up is awaiting you"

Before we know it, he's gonna be in the Avatar state !!!!!!!!!

[Gaara's hair]

Before we know it, he's gonna be in the Avatar state !!!!!!!!!

That will be acheived in part 3

[NarutoUzumaki01]

Don't you people think, that last fight's was... lame? There is no moves and dedicated arts as in part 1, now it's more about "bam, boom, pow" moves, not about fighting 

[AHK]

Don't you people think, that last fight's was... lame? There is no moves and dedicated arts as in part 1, now it's more about "bam, boom, pow" moves, not about fighting 

I don't think it's over just yet, but your impression was the point of this fight. It was to show how unskilled Shioon is and that he can't just rely on brute power that the BOT gives him. Whatever happens, he's going to have to gain skill and experience, and him realizing that is the point of this fight.

Edited by AHK, 20 March 2015 - 06:52 PM.

[NarutoUzumaki01]

I don't think it's over just yet, but your impression was the point of this fight. It was to show how unskilled Shioon is and that he can't just rely on brute power that the BOT gives him. Whatever happens, he's going to have to gain skill and experience, and him realizing that is the point of this fight.

That's the the worst part, there is no development for Shioon in next part - story took worst turn in could. There was no showing of Chunwoo skills, that was speedblitz of him when he couldn't do that to Kan Son earlier there in no Martial Arts here already.

If Shioon from end of p1 = Shioon p2, in terms of skills, what is the point? He will lvl up his technique in part 3? He already just trained non-stoply and was smashed (yeah because of BOT, but whatever). What is waiting for us in the part 3? Repeating of p2? 

I see nothing good in future for this series, cliche conflict because of Kwon's death, and worst part of p3 will be Sauce-kwon-like release of deed for Chunwoo from murim, when Shioon will save him from BFD 

[AHK]

That's the the worst part, there is no development for Shioon in next part - story took worst turn in could. There was no showing of Chunwoo skills, that was speedblitz of him when he couldn't do that to Kan Son earlier there in no Martial Arts here already.
If Shioon from end of p1 = Shioon p2, in terms of skills, what is the point? He will lvl up his technique in part 3? He already just trained non-stoply and was smashed (yeah because of BOT, but whatever). What is waiting for us in the part 3? Repeating of p2? 
I see nothing good in future for this series, cliche conflict because of Kwon's death, and worst part of p3 will be Sauce-kwon-like release of deed for Chunwoo from murim, when Shioon will save him from BFD 

What are you talking about, the only thing that didn't get developed was his fighting style. In the flow of the story, there was literally no time, as the entire story is really fast paced. As a fighter, his skills didn't get developed much, but as a a character, he's grown leaps and bounds. He's going to use this and actually commit to training, and then they're going to fight for real. This is something that needed to happen to be honest.

[trang95]

That's the the worst part, there is no development for Shioon in next part - story took worst turn in could. There was no showing of Chunwoo skills, that was speedblitz of him when he couldn't do that to Kan Son earlier there in no Martial Arts here already.

If Shioon from end of p1 = Shioon p2, in terms of skills, what is the point? He will lvl up his technique in part 3? He already just trained non-stoply and was smashed (yeah because of BOT, but whatever). What is waiting for us in the part 3? Repeating of p2? 

I see nothing good in future for this series, cliche conflict because of Kwon's death, and worst part of p3 will be Sauce-kwon-like release of deed for Chunwoo from murim, when Shioon will save him from BFD 

... I have no idea what you are talking about. Didn't AHK express himself clearly enough? While I admit the sudden defeat of Chunwoo was disappointing as hell to some of us, this defeat was to showcase that Shioon is FAR from mastering the actual fighting skills of Martial Arts. W/out proper techniques, brute force and power is absolutely uneffective. Chunwoo actually got to fight quite a lot b/c he was going against REAL Martial arts fighters in Part 1 who have been drilling fighting techniques for years. Only a few months have passed since he has met Chunwoo. I don't remember a time where he truly learned Martial Arts. He has learned the basics and grasp the surface of Martial Arts- that's it.

Pretty sure, in Part 3 Shioon will properly learn Martial Arts w/out relying on his BOT. Only after he has learned to control his movements, will he gain 100% out of his BOT (hopefully).

[NarutoUzumaki01]

What are you talking about, the only thing that didn't get developed was his fighting style. In the flow of the story, there was literally no time, as the entire story is really fast paced. As a fighter, his skills didn't get developed much, but as a a character, he's grown leaps and bounds. He's going to use this and actually commit to training, and then they're going to fight for real. This is something that needed to happen to be honest.

 

... I have no idea what you are talking about. Didn't AHK express himself clearly enough? While I admit the sudden defeat of Chunwoo was disappointing as hell to some of us, this defeat was to showcase that Shioon is FAR from mastering the actual fighting skills of Martial Arts. W/out proper techniques, brute force and power is absolutely uneffective. Chunwoo actually got to fight quite a lot b/c he was going against REAL Martial arts fighters in Part 1 who have been drilling fighting techniques for years. Only a few months have passed since he has met Chunwoo. I don't remember a time where he truly learned Martial Arts. He has learned the basics and grasp the surface of Martial Arts- that's it.

Pretty sure, in Part 3 Shioon will properly learn Martial Arts w/out relying on his BOT. Only after he has learned to control his movements, will he gain 100% out of his BOT (hopefully).

What I'm saying, whole part 2 Shioon was training his martial arts skills in his own way like crazy in those mind trainings, funny how this "you have lack of skills" was forced by some sh*tty character that appeared 2 times in story. Who'm Shioon fought in part 2? First serious enemy was Cool guy and Shioon barely won against him it was almost tie, 20 chatpers ago Shioon was fighting him and 2 OTHER characters of ~same level on equal at the same time. He didn't used only 1 or 2 moves, he was combining many moves with counter attacks. Before, that black haired guy was shocked how in 6 month Shioon was standing against him very well. On island, Shioon smashed whole squad of special murim forces that was specially gathered to hunt down murims.

 

So my point is, authors didn't do justice to Shioon, basicaly they showed us what would be with someone else in the end of part 1 who would use BOT against Kan Son. This stripping from all the hard work (if those mind trainings could count as it, lol) and hype around one shot is damaging to whole story.

Both of you saying that p3 will show Shioon who developing skills, but who will teach him?  2 of 5 elders died, those 3 that left will have hard time holding clan togetherw while Shioon will be recovering. So who's willing to teach him? Kan Son that already at his limits or Ghost doctor who was rival to Kwon? Both have nothing to do with Sunu, so all this will compromise him as head (not as much if it will be Ghost Doctor, but still) or shioon will have sparrings with all the allies he gathered? Whatever I say, nothing intresting is lying there.

 

Basicaly I dissapointed with two things:

- All this fight around Seul tower was a mare plot device to create conflict for part 3, nothing grand final as part 1 ending was. 

- Showing Shioon as baseless nobody against characters that was using only defensive tactics, while he clearly pwned such characters (that agent who earlyer was against him and used binding moves) or special forced and etc. And this oneshot of Chunwoo created false difference in skills, surely Shioon not on a level of Chunwoo, but damn, he already was exhausted before he came to tower, so nothing was shown clearly on a distance of gap between them.

Edited by NarutoUzumaki01, 20 March 2015 - 10:46 PM.

[AHK]

 

What I'm saying, whole part 2 Shioon was training his martial arts skills in his own way like crazy in those mind trainings, funny how this "you have lack of skills" was forced by some sh*tty character that appeared 2 times in story. Who'm Shioon fought in part 2? First serious enemy was Cool guy and Shioon barely won against him it was almost tie, 20 chatpers ago Shioon was fighting him and 2 OTHER characters of ~same level on equal at the same time. He didn't used only 1 or 2 moves, he was combining many moves with counter attacks. Before, that black haired guy was shocked how in 6 month Shioon was standing against him very well. On island, Shioon smashed whole squad of special murim forces that was specially gathered to hunt down murims.

 

So my point is, authors didn't do justice to Shioon, basicaly they showed us what would be with someone else in the end of part 1 who would use BOT against Kan Son. This stripping from all the hard work (if those mind trainings could count as it, lol) and hype around one shot is damaging to whole story.

Both of you saying that p3 will show Shioon who developing skills, but who will teach him?  2 of 5 elders died, those 3 that left will have hard time holding clan togetherw while Shioon will be recovering. So who's willing to teach him? Kan Son that already at his limits or Ghost doctor who was rival to Kwon? Both have nothing to do with Sunu, so all this will compromise him as head (not as much if it will be Ghost Doctor, but still) or shioon will have sparrings with all the allies he gathered? Whatever I say, nothing intresting is lying there.

 

Basicaly I dissapointed with two things:

- All this fight around Seul tower was a mare plot device to create conflict for part 3, nothing grand final as part 1 ending was. 

- Showing Shioon as baseless nobody against characters that was using only defensive tactics, while he clearly pwned such characters (that agent who earlyer was against him and used binding moves) or special forced and etc. And this oneshot of Chunwoo created false difference in skills, surely Shioon not on a level of Chunwoo, but damn, he already was exhausted before he came to tower, so nothing was shown clearly on a distance of gap between them.

The mind training and visualizations helped only for what he knew. He didn't get any real world experience with someone who was trying to teach him. He needs a proper teacher. If someone taught him physically, the visualization is supposed to reinforce that. As it was, it helped make him stronger, but keep in mind that he was going up against someone with many years of training. Shioon even said that he wasn't as good so Hyuk So-Chun, and Hyuk was nowhere near the level of Chunwoo. What makes Shioon special is the massive reserves of ki he has, but as the doctor said, it's a waste of time if he doesn't know how to use it. I think that the gap shown between Chunwoo was clear. I expect this to be the wake up call shioon needs, and to be honest, I think that either Kang or the doctor will teach him martial arts. I would love for him to be taught by Kang, as he's one of my favorites. 

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Ah damn....................well let's see what happens next week!!!!

[trang95]

What in the world?! Why are we wasting a chapter on these three

[NarutoUzumaki01]

What in the world?! Why are we wasting a chapter on these three

Much more intresting then two previous, at least there was no false hype 

[MoonDrop04]

Much more intresting then two previous, at least there was no false hype 

Meh regardless of the "hype" from shioon's and chunwoo's fight, I'm just glad to see some interaction again between the two in the series. Now with the direction it's taking, it's probably gonna start builiding up the climax to their relationship in part 3

[trang95]

Much more intresting then two previous, at least there was no false hype 

I guess dislike those two characters. Makes it hard for me to like this chapter. Annoys me personally to just shift in the middle of the main scene- but it looks like that Chunwoo vs Shioon fight is already over XD

And the ending was so abrupt

[NarutoUzumaki01]

Meh regardless of the "hype" from shioon's and chunwoo's fight, I'm just glad to see some interaction again between the two in the series. Now with the direction it's taking, it's probably gonna start builiding up the climax to their relationship in part 3

I will genuinely surprised if there will be more to their relationship in part 3 than "Hey, Si-ho is alive, you were tricked, but first I will beat your ass up, to show that I progressed in part 3 from the part 2 like in miles with not even an equal to your skills teacher aroun me." and happy end.

I guess dislike those two characters. Makes it hard for me to like this chapter. Annoys me personally to just shift in the middle of the main scene- but it looks like that Chunwoo vs Shioon fight is already over XD

And the ending was so abrupt

I guess author will post some additional pages tomorrow, they have tendency to do so.

[rocci]

Wow if unwol is the kaiser, that is a one hell twist.
And it will kill my prediction that unwol is shion father.

I think it's good thing when shion doesn't win againt chunwoo.

[trang95]

Wow if unwol is the kaiser, that is a one hell twist.
And it will kill my prediction that unwol is shion father.

I think it's good thing when shion doesn't win againt chunwoo.

That's an interesting theory!!! It'd be shocking plot twist if Kaiser is someone we knew already...

[trang95]

Ok, about Haru? Looks like that woman is working for someone else secretly. She's prob working for Kaiser, right?