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[FullmetalNinja25]

It's official Sasuke is beyond salvation I mean I never really liked Karin but geez.

[Strangelove]

You mean, Akumaru...

I am loosing my brain...

[Serenity Namikaze]

The latest Fan Book by Kishi shows Kumogakure ranked highest under military strength.



I seriously doubt Sasuke is heading to Konoha right away, he is in no shape to take on a army of ninja's. I do expect Sasuke to get EMS though since his eyes went past overtime during the fight with Danzou.

I do expect Kakashi will convince Sakura that Naruto needs her more right now and I too am also interested in Naruto and Sakura having a true heart to heart conversation that Smiter pointed out.

I'm just wondering when/what's gonna trigger or cause the Naruto training arc that Kishi mentioned during the latest interview?

Well, Sasuke did say ' Next...we head for Konoha'. However, Madara will probably convince him otherwise.

As for Sakura, as much as I trully want her to have a REAL talk with Naruto, I just hope that it won't mean her 'saving him' from his state after his hyperventilating reaction. I think that Naruto need to do this part alone so that he can grow from that experience (like the one with Jiraya's death). Then again, it was Shikamaru's talk that help him stopping his brooding state.

If Naruto and Sakura have THE talk, I rather like Naruto in a normal state.

[ciardha]

Danzou may have become somewhat sympathetic, but that doesn't make him any less evil. (And being evil doesn't mean he can't do a few things that benefit others.) He had to have things his way, whether it was by manipulating people (Kage conference) or by manipulating events (killing the messenger toad during the Pein attack). If there was a cost or sacrifice, he made others pay it. If there was any doubt, that was buried at the end of last chapter, when he hid behind Karin because he had to be the one to rule Konoha. ("I am the only one who can change this world. This girl will be sacrificed for that.")

Exactly. look at his alliance with Hanzo and how Yahiko died. At that point Yahiko, Nagato and Konan were trying to live by Jiraiya's principles and trying to make their country better with their rebel organization. Danzo played a crucial role in Nagato's choice to become Pain. Danzo wasn't doing anything positive there. (and considering his history I guarantee this wasn't anything the Third Hokage knew about). Look what he did during Pain's attack on Konoha, he hid underground with Root and let people in Konoha suffer, and didn't lift a finger, he wasn't doing anything to benefit Konoha there. He also sent Sai to Orochimaru with classified information about Konoha Jonin, and tried to interest him in a plot to overthrow Tsunade- that wasn't anything for Konoha's benefit, and would have been great harm, except Orochimaru had already decided Konoha being strong was best for him (and under it all, as sick and twisted a man he'd become, a remnant of Orochimaru's team mate bond to Tsunade at least remained) Orochimaru and Danzo were both evil men who had some shreds of humanity left in them. This is how evil people in the real world often are.

The flashbacks reflect Danzo's misunderstanding about what it means to be a leader- look at his reaction to Tobirama saying he'd be the sacrifice and it's right there. He misunderstood until his last act what it means to be Hokage.

[catsi563]

what i want to see with the next chapters aside from narusaku obviously is whether Sasuke has a chance at redemption or not.

we will know this if he has a flashback of regret involving Karin and what happened between them. If he does this there may be some chance at redemption especially if he holds regret for the action.

if shows no regret at all not even in the slightest then yeah hes irredeemably crossed the line and hes not coming back.

Sakura wont be fighting Sai or the others though the confrontation may get a bit tense. itll be stopped by Kakashis arrival and the investigation of the battle scene.

thatll lead to karin being saved or at least comforted by Sakura.

this will lead to her returning to Naruto

[Gravenimage]

what i want to see with the next chapters aside from narusaku obviously is whether Sasuke has a chance at redemption or not.

we will know this if he has a flashback of regret involving Karin and what happened between them. If he does this there may be some chance at redemption especially if he holds regret for the action.

if shows no regret at all not even in the slightest then yeah hes irredeemably crossed the line and hes not coming back.

Sakura wont be fighting Sai or the others though the confrontation may get a bit tense. itll be stopped by Kakashis arrival and the investigation of the battle scene.

thatll lead to karin being saved or at least comforted by Sakura.

this will lead to her returning to Naruto

Kishi said Sasuke will become more evil so I highly doubt he will have a flashback regretting killing Karin.

[Serenity Namikaze]

Kishi said Sasuke will become more evil so I highly doubt he will have a flashback regretting killing Karin.

Agreed. If he say to Karin that she was a burden by being an hostage, I doubt he'll change his view and regret his action.

Edited by silverserenity, 05 February 2010 - 03:57 AM.

[Miss Soupy]

Sasuke will still be redeemed. He just probably won't live afterwards.

At least now it's official, beyond any doubt, that Sasuke is evil, hit Karin on purpose, and has no hope in any pairing.

Beyond that, I'm not understanding Sakura. She is supposed to be the smartest kunoichi of her year and yet she is making choices based on her emotions rather than using her intellect. What really is her goal here? Even knowing Tobi is present and she thinks she can take on them all alone?

I don't understand.

[Kamina-Yoshi]

Wow... I am actually appreciating Danzo now. Wow.

[Muffins?]

I always new that Danzo wasn't as evil as portrayed.

[ciardha]

Just to make a clarification regarding Sakura's actions: From her point of view, she's taking responsibility. Sasuke is her former teammate (and first love) who has now become an international threat. In Part 1, when he was being taken away, Sakura stood aside, and nearly everyone who went after Sasuke were nearly killed. Now, Sasuke's a clear threat, and she wants no one, especially Naruto, to get killed facing him. She is, in her mind, trying avoid letting anyone get hurt for what she thinks is her responsibility, and probably would rather bear the burden of killing him then letting a complete stranger do it.

Yes. She is determined that no one else risks their lives, and believes it's her duty alone to step and do the job, even if it means her death. It's very like Tsunade when she chose to take down Orochimaru, she also hid her plan from those she cared about and did make sure they were all unconscious for what she thought would be long enough.

heh, on a lighter note, manga/anime human anatomy rules aren't quite the same as real world ones. I only have to recall in Fushigi Yuugi when Miaka stabbed herself around the heart with the broken plate to free herself from the mirror trap 1) she didn't bleed to death within minutes and 2) She had a blood transfusion from two people, one who had a blood type her body should have rejected. There are plenty of similar amusing examples in shonen, shoujo, seinen, and even josei manga (the last tends to be the most reality based of age and gender targeted manga, but there's still "manga science" examples in josei manga as well.)

Edited by ciardha, 05 February 2010 - 04:52 AM.

[dfammer]

Here's a theory , What if the "evil" part of the fox is in Sasuke? I mean Sasuke and his relitives can control the fox and Sasuke is the same age as Naruto,so maybe the 4th put the fox's other half in Sasuke because he thought he could learn to control it. Remember the "beast" that appeared behind Sasuke thats when he went completly evil perhaps the fox's evil chakra finally took over Sasuke.I also suspect that if the fox is removed from Sasuke he will not be able to remember any of the evil things he did,that is one way for him to be redeemed,I know I'm probably wrong.

[Miss Soupy]

What makes Sakura think she can take down Sasuke and Tobi ON HER OWN? That isn't smart. I don't care how she thinks its her responsibility or how she is super guilty for no reason. She should know better. Period. Kishi has made it blatantly obvious that other characters think it's a pointless death march that will achieve nothing. He is also made it obvious that she is underestimating Naruto. It bothers me that she is made out to be extremely dumb in this situation. Where she is supposed to be heaven, she is letting her feelings get the better of her.

I thought Kishi was going to make Sakura more heroic. Instead he is making her out to be suicidal. Ugh.

[EarthBorn]

Wow, Kishi had the guts to kill of one of the "new generation" ? We'll know beyond all doubt in the next chapter if Sakura doesn't heal Karin.

Speaking of Sakura, the girl needs to calm down. Seriously. She's letting her emotions control her and I'm pretty sure she wanted to undertake a suicide mission or something. Probably, the Sakura v. Sai fight will go on for a bit until Kakashi arrives, Sakura calms down and they find Karin's body. Sauce and Madara would have left by then.

[Serenity Namikaze]

What makes Sakura think she can take down Sasuke and Tobi ON HER OWN? That isn't smart. I don't care how she thinks its her responsibility or how she is super guilty for no reason. She should know better. Period. Kishi has made it blatantly obvious that other characters think it's a pointless death march that will achieve nothing. He is also made it obvious that she is underestimating Naruto. It bothers me that she is made out to be extremely dumb in this situation. Where she is supposed to be heaven, she is letting her feelings get the better of her.

I thought Kishi was going to make Sakura more heroic. Instead he is making her out to be suicidal. Ugh.

And that the reason why she need to be stop by someone who still have a rational view to cool her down. Just hope that, in Kishi definition, heroic doesn't mean being reckless

Edited by silverserenity, 05 February 2010 - 05:32 AM.

[pinkheartsyellowstars]

Sakura felt guilt alright
Maybe she was saying to herself, how she became a burden on Naruto.

[KungFuTruffle]

Kiba says "That Tobi guy is with him." right before they stop. So she knew he was there, Sakura just didn't care much. Which is even more suicidal than if she didn't know, seeing as Team 7 and 8 couldn't take down "Tobi" when he was playing around. Which Sakura was there for.

And Sakura most likely knows about the Mangekyou Sharingan's basic abilities, due to her archive spelunking during the time skip. It's how she learned about Itachi, remember? I'm going to guess any files pertaining to him would have information about his jutsu.

Edited by KungFuTruffle, 05 February 2010 - 08:08 AM.