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[RyrineaHaruno]

Alright chapter. Expected reactions.

It's quite obvious that both Naruto and Sakura would be outraged at this, but I think that Danzo is justified and well within Konoha's laws to mark Sasuke as a missing nin. After all, they can't possibly argue against the fact that he attacked a fellow Konoha ninja (Naruto) just to get his way out.

I've also noticed that Kishi's definitely showing us that Killerbee isn't a normal jinchuuriki - he seems to be quite loved in the cloud village.

Yes, I noticed that two I wonder if The two tailed cat was treated like that too. I am also saying that it due to his bother being Rikikage I think and he older then most of the Jinchuuriki than we been seeing . So I would think he had longer time to prove himself as human and not the beast that was inside him.

Edited by RyrineaHaruno, 20 June 2009 - 03:00 AM.

[Cloud]

Yes, I noticed that two I wonder if The two tailed cat was treated like that too. I am also saying that it due to his bother being Rikikage I think and he older then most of the Jinchuuriki than we been seeing . So I would think he had longer time to prove himself as human and not the beast that was inside him.

Or it could be that the other countries are more welcoming of their Jinchuriki hosts.

[Freakazoid]

It could be also that their villages were not attacked by the tailed beast.

[Dreamer]

I just hope in the next chapter Naruto/Sakura don't start whining like their old selves and instead except the facts and harsh reality and move on, or otherwise i will be very disappointed in their so called maturity.

I think everyone wants a much anticipated Sakura Arc.

I just don't see Danzou getting anywhere in his shin dig arc: Everyone in the village wants either Kakashi or Naruto as the Hokage, and the other Kages probably don't like him either. The only way he can get people to appraise him is if he is truly Madara, disguises himself as a Root, and kill Sasuke. (if Sasuke has already kill a couple ninjas before the brawl.) His Roots would look like hero's protecting the village. I'm still anxious to know what Madara meant by taking care of things to Zetsu.

(I have my personal opinion about who is the stronger Uchiha- EMS + Time/Space Jutsu (teleport)=dead Sasuke)

Edited by 6thHokage, 20 June 2009 - 03:39 AM.

[RyrineaHaruno]

It could be also that their villages were not attacked by the tailed beast.

Didn't Gaara father wont a weapon and sealed the demon with in his own son for that?

but Kakashi said they wear treated like that every, where during the Gaara rescue arc.

[Daniee]

Something occured to me as I was writing these posts. If there's going to be a Kage meeting, shouldn't the Mizukage be there? You know, the title that Kisame called MADARA forty some chapters ago? I'm actually interested in seeing the results of that.

Kisame called him a former Mizukage; in volume 44.

Or it could be that the other countries are more welcoming of their Jinchuriki hosts.

I think it's just Cloud. Though Killerbee is probably treated better due to being Raikage's brother and being able to control his beast. Deidara mentioned that the two hosts Akatsuki captured prior to Part 2 got absolutely no assistance from their village.

[Dreamer]

Didn't Gaara father wanted a weapon and sealed the demon with in his own son for that?

I do recall during part 1 that Gaara's father despised him & the Kazikage because Gaara's mother died giving birth to him and the Kazikage messed up his son. I think that's how it was anyway; I maybe wrong.

Edited by 6thHokage, 20 June 2009 - 04:07 AM.

[Cloud]

I do recall during part 1 that Gaara's father despised him & the Kazikage because Gaara's mother died giving birth to him and the Kazikage messed up his son. I think that's how it was anyway; I maybe wrong.

Yep. That's why the Kazekage always had people try and kill Gaara.

[RyrineaHaruno]

Yep. That's why the Kazekage always had people try and kill Gaara.

Ok I just couldn't remember that far lol.

[BlackLightning]

err... isn't the kazekage was Gaara's father?

[desaix]

I do recall during part 1 that Gaara's father despised him & the Kazikage because Gaara's mother died giving birth to him and the Kazikage messed up his son. I think that's how it was anyway; I maybe wrong.

Er... not quite.

Gaara's father was the Kazekage. He decided to create a jinchuuriki weapon using his own son, which killed his wife in childbirth. The kazekage appeared to niether love nor hate his son at this point (rather just didn't care about him) but instead turned the boy over to his late wife's brother (Gaara's natural uncle) to raise. However, Gaara did not develop into the weapon the Kazekage wanted, so he ordered the boy (his son) killed, employing his late wife's brother (Gaara's natural uncle) to kill him. During this time, Gaara's natural uncle revealed that he hated Gaara the entire time he raised him (whether he was telling the truth, or just saying what he felt was necessary for the best chance at completing his mission, I have to wonder).

After said assassination attempt failed, the Kazekage (Gaara's father) and Gaara's relationship was hostile, but it had nothing to do with Gaara's mother's death, as far as has been written in canon, although whether that might have been a factor is also not excluded..

[Dreamer]

Er... not quite.

Gaara's father was the Kazekage. He decided to create a jinchuuriki weapon using his own son, which killed his wife in childbirth. The kazekage appeared to niether love nor hate his son at this point (rather just didn't care about him) but instead turned the boy over to his late wife's brother (Gaara's natural uncle) to raise. However, Gaara did not develop into the weapon the Kazekage wanted, so he ordered the boy (his son) killed, employing his late wife's brother (Gaara's natural uncle) to kill him. During this time, Gaara's natural uncle revealed that he hated Gaara the entire time he raised him (whether he was telling the truth, or just saying what he felt was necessary for the best chance at completing his mission, I have to wonder).

After said assassination attempt failed, the Kazekage (Gaara's father) and Gaara's relationship was hostile, but it had nothing to do with Gaara's mother's death, as far as has been written in canon, although whether that might have been a factor is also not excluded..

Thanks for the clarification.

Back on topic with the latest chapter, I wonder how Naruto will resolve the situation with the clouds wanting the sasuce dead and naruto wanting sasuke back. This seems like a very bad position he has been put in. For the best scenario I just hope Naruto and Sakura accept the loss of their old friend and move on otherwise if it doesn't go that way Naruto could hurt one or the others feelings by taking sides.

It just seems to hard for me to make an accurate prediction. I guess I'll just have to wait in see how kishi pulled it off on next weeks spoilers.

Edited by 6thHokage, 20 June 2009 - 05:01 AM.

[Derock]

And as for Sakura's "eek" reaction- Omoi kicked her really hard right at her kitten- that's painful! (it also adds another example to how he's a misogynist ass that needs a woman to knock him silly, (Sakura would be a good choice) so he'll learn to stop being so disrespectful to women. He makes sexist comments about his female team mates bodies, he thinks he's such hot stuff that girls are going to fall for him and want to kill themselves, and now in a non deadly fight he kicks a female at her kitten... )

I'm not really sure he kicked at her kitten... but people see different things right?

I could've sworn I saw Sakura was kicked in the stomach, not near her kitten...

[Paptala]

Kisame called him a former Mizukage; in volume 44.

Ah, thanks for clarifying that for me. I couldn't recall the conversation exactly, only that it was really weird and random to me.

As for Naruto and Sakura accepting that Sasuke's in Akatsuki - well, think of it this way. Your closest friend, that you think of like family, has disappeared after being involved in a very dangerous fight - though the fight was for understandable reasons, and though your friend hurt a lot of people's emotions and trust by leaving, he's never really hurt anyone else besides the one in the fight and has shown no real inclination to do any real harm (aside from a few skirmishes, but even though he claim's he would have no problem killing you, he has never gone through with it, even when given the chance). If a couple of hostile strangers show up and start claiming this friend has joined a group of dangerous and ruthless criminals out to get you and that he's hurting people he has no reason to harm, who would you believe? Your emotionally charged memories of this person, or the strangers that just attacked you?

Either way, I think they'll come to believe it. However, I still think that their going to "save" Sasuke in some form or another. Though this isn't what's likely to happen in real life, Kishi's signs all point to Sasuke eventually being redeemed in some manner. I would be incredibly surprised if the series ended with Sasuke as one of the bad guys, so to speak. Then again, I never thought that Sasuke would leave at the end of Part I. *shrugs* Maybe I'm just as biased as Naruto and Sakura are being.

Edited by Paptala, 20 June 2009 - 06:03 AM.

[Shadowmoon~]

Hm, so this thread started to grow while I was asleep. Awesome.

Madara was the former Mizukage, but did anyone consider the possibility that the Five Kages' meeting also included Madara, and that was what he wanted to take care of?

Anyway...

Killerbee is loved in his village, because, just like Naruto, he was accepted as a hero in some point in his life. Maybe for saving the village from attacking enemy ninjas?

And, he also had more years for convincing the village to like him, unlike Naruto, who is only 16, but good things shall come soon, believe it!

Technically speaking, it took Naruto only 16 years for the whole village to like him, but it took a lot of effort, and there are still some people who don't like him. Like Danzou.

Also...

Sakura is not weak! She just hasn't had the time to punch her enemy because of their speed. They were trained by Killerbee, after all. Besides, Sakura's advantage is not speed, it is strength. This is my opinion against others saying that she is weak.

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Naruto = Ninjutsu & Taijustu

Sakura = Genjustu & Taijutsu

Sasuke = Ninjustu & Genjustu

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As we see here, Team 7 complement and complete each other, and that is why Team 7 is important to Kishi-sensei and fans everywhere.

But, I would also love to see her learn new techniques, maybe in Genjutsu? You never might know, there would be a convenient happening for her to train under a certain ninja who also knows Genjustu, aside from Kurenai.

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Just think positive, guys, and let's wait patiently for the next chapter! XD

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Edited by Shadowmoon-Sakura, 20 June 2009 - 09:05 AM.

[Jenskott]

Thanks for pointing that out about Sai, it's all been "Sakura's lame, blah, blah, blah" Well, she got closer to landing a hit than Sai did...

Yes, that's true. Sai didn't anything in that fight. Though, no one is calling him weak or useless. But if Sakura does nothing in a fight or she's hit, she's weak and useless.

It reminds me of the Uchiha arc, when Naruto was being hit around in several fights because the plot demanded it, not because he wasn't a good fighter, and many fans were yelling he was weak and useless.

And have you already forgotten about how she killed that giant centipede summon in one blow- the giant centipede that even jonin ninja were shown fleeing from. And how stunned the jonin were when Sakura killed it in one shot.

And after she was healing people in the hospital, saving a lot of lives (in case of someone points out they weren't going to stay dead, I'll point out neither Sakura nor the manga readers knew that). And after she was taking care of Tsunade. And when the situation got completely out of hand, she was the only person took charge, giving orders for protecting lives and quickly coming up with a plan for saving Naruto from himself. And NOBODY ever challenged her authority or questioned who she was to order jounin around, being a mere chuunin.

[Shadowmoon~]

And NOBODY ever challenged her authority or questioned who she was to order jounin around, being a mere chuunin.

And this sentence showed that she wasn't weak. She was respected, and she was strong, for having led the ninjas AND villagers into surviving when Tsunade was having a hard time herself.

So, I also thought that it wasn't fair that some people were saying that Sakura was weak. She was trying her best, and also was Sai. Both of them tried to protect each other, and that is the important thing here.

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Edited by Shadowmoon-Sakura, 20 June 2009 - 09:55 AM.

[TashaJ]

Sakura is strong in lots of different ways. She has a hell of a lot of will power.
Has shown she can put up a good fight and is very smart. It would be a little off if she wasn't strong, as she trained under Tsunade a legendary sannnin and Hokage of the village, The famous copy ninja Kakashi, who hadn't had a team in a long time before them. Not too mention her team mates, like said before, Naruto - Jinchuuri, Sasuke - last Uchiha, Sai - root anbu/one of Danzo's subbordinates.
At this point, I'm beginning to doubt that they will get Sasuke back...so many things stand in the way and their reactions to the news that Sasuke is involved with Akatsuki, they are obviously shocked, but I really hope that they don't go over the top with it, because didn't Kishi say in an interview that Sakura and Naruto would have to grow up, I was hoping it would be too something like this, where they realise not everything is filled with rainbows and flowers and pretty little hearts. I really think that the two are still really naive with things concerning Sasuke.

Yay for more Narusakuness, the protectiveness Naruto showed was KAWAIIIIIIIIII!!!

I soooo can't wait to see Gaara again either.

[ciardha]

And this sentence showed that she wasn't weak. She was respected, and she was strong, for having led the ninjas AND villagers into surviving when Tsunade was having a hard time herself.

So, I also thought that it wasn't fair that some people were saying that Sakura was weak. She was trying her best, and also was Sai. Both of them tried to protect each other, and that is the important thing here.

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Exactly! And what character development Sai showed in this chapter, that's something that jumped out that isn't really getting discussed. Sai actually questions Danzo- enough that you see Danzo looking at Sai suspiciously. Sai questions what Danzo said in his mind as he walks away from the meeting. Sai also again shows the strength of the bond he's made with Naruto and to a lesser extent Sakura- when questioned about "who's side he's on" he's states outright he's not on Danzo's side. He defends Danzo's methods to Sakura, but when she counters that, he looks troubled- yet again she's made a point that made him question what he was taught to think by Danzo. He looks shocked when they tell him about the kill order on Sasuke, again showing how much he's evolved as a character. Yeah, it's definitely looking like Sai will have a moment where he will confront Danzo. I could almost see this happening right as Sasuke arrives. Danzo orders Sai to attack to kill Sasuke, and Sai says no, that he believes how Naruto feels about Sasuke.

[Freakazoid]

I think we may be getting a bit to spoiled with NaruSaku moments...... oh well!