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[Jade Ninja]

Hey, I just got an really weird thought. Sakura knows about Hinata's confession, goes to save her, then.........doesn't. OOOOOO. Definatly not gonna happen, but just IMAGINE. Man, that would kick of a forum war, wouldn't it.

[Sora no Kitsune]

Hey, I just got an really weird thought. Sakura knows about Hinata's confession, goes to save her, then.........doesn't. OOOOOO. Definatly not gonna happen, but just IMAGINE. Man, that would kick of a forum war, wouldn't it.

To be honest, i thought of the same thing, though not exactly as you said. I was thinking along the lines of Hinata being brought to Sakura by team Guy to be healed. The Team Guy leaves to help others out, leaving Hinata and Sakura alone. Sakura asks why she went out to save Naruto, tells Sakura about her confession, and out of jealousy, she stops healing Hinata.

Now i KNOW she won't let Hinata die but im pretty sure this is how Sakura will find out about the confession and this will cause Sakura to deeply consider her feelings for Naruto, thus forwarding into the Sakura arc.

[NutMan]

It would be really out of character for Sakura to do something like that. ^

[jim1982]

Page 12 of this chapter has got to be my favorite page in the whole manga! Pain gets PWNT! A new Naruto rendan! (or however "combo" is spelled) Grab! Twist! Snap! Kick!! and Pain goes BOOM!! Smack!! HAHAhhahahahahaha I love it.
My guess on the "unexpected conclusion" is the same thing I predicted already: That Naruto wont kill Nagato, cuz once he sees that pathetic shell of a man he'll feel too much pity to hurt him. I hope he breaks his chair though and takes away all his chakra sticks.
And who knows what Konan is going to do now, I think I need to go read the Jiraiya fight to remember what her jutsu are Lol.

She pretty much does origami like attacks. I'd say paper throwing stars, and stuff like her paper spear.

[Cali]

Sneaky Naruto, that was well done, good to seem him actually doing something not Rasengen related for once. But way to totally cheapen Nagato with the Hinata crap... "not fatal"? after Jiraya, Kakashi, Shizune, an entire village, 8 other Jinchurichi? was looking so good last week too. Meh I'm done with the manga if he can't be consistent, and I bet somehow Naruto negotiates an end to this, despite Nagato killing half his precious people. That sort of thing really ought to bite him in the arse more than it actually does.

At least there's still fics, where I can actually protest character fails

[dl316bh]

I've beaten my feelings on this mangas direction to death in the spoiler thread, so I won't bore everyone with repeating it.

I will, however, stand by my assertion that this manga should totally reveal it's ultimate villain to be Cobra Commander. =P

[Gaara]

I'm really scared at the moment. What's the point of Hinata's confession if she isn't going to die??? I tell you, Kishimoto is actually stupid enough to make NaruHina happen... all of a sudden.. without any build up... after all the NaruSaku hints... I can't believe it.

Or what do you guys think happens? Naruto going to tell her "Sorry, but I love another girl"? I just don't see that happening, since it doesn't make much sense. It would be lame for the story. If Kishi really intended to somehow end NaruHina he would have killed Hinata. But he just doesn't have the balls to kill any of the young ninja. He could'nt even kill the little frog. Damn Kishi. No way I believe that Pain actually missed her vital points. Come on.

[Sakura Blossoms]

Now, about your statement... I don't think Naruto has forgoten. I wouldn't understand why Kishimoto would write one scene with Hinata confessing if Naruto wasn't going to remember it. It'd be a massive cop-out.

It's not like Kishimoto isn't known for his cop-outs though, this very chapter a prime example. Pain, a ninja who has killed practically 100% of his victims with ease, somehow manages to miss all of Hinata's vital points, and once again another Rookie 9 doesn't bite the dust :rolleyes:

[dl316bh]

It's not like Kishimoto isn't known for his cop-outs though, this very chapter a prime example. Pain, a ninja who has killed practically 100% of his victims with ease, somehow manages to miss all of Hinata's vital points, and once again another Rookie 9 doesn't bite the dust :rolleyes:

These kids are like zombies, I swear. They just won't stay down!

Ya gotta shot 'em in the head!

[Sakura Blossoms]

Or what do you guys think happens? Naruto going to tell her "Sorry, but I love another girl"? I just don't see that happening, since it doesn't make much sense. It would be lame for the story.

But he does love another girl ._.

Naruto's two main goals in life:

1). Become Hokage

2). Get with Sakura

I don't see how all of the 300+ chapters of development would be considered lame. What would be 'lame' is pulling a completely undeveloped pairing out of thin air.

These kids are like zombies, I swear. They just won't stay down!

Ya gotta shot 'em in the head!

Lol, for real XDD

[dl316bh]

I think lame in regards to pulling an undeveloped pairing out of thing air is too weak a word, SB. If anything, it's terrible writing. The kind I wouldn't expect of a professional.

But I admittedly don't know what to expect of Kishi anymore.

If this is dealt with, I suspect Naruto will turn her down gently. I'm not worried about the pairing. The problem is that if it will be dealt with; I don't think Kishi is above sweeping things under the rug.

Lol, for real XDD

I've got this image in my head of Pein looking shocked at a living Hinata and screaming "WHY WON'T YOU DIE?" XD

Edited by dl316bh, 27 March 2009 - 09:53 PM.

[Jenskott]

I'm really scared at the moment.

Why?

I love how people overreacts with any little thing.

What's the point of Hinata's confession if she isn't going to die???

Hinata finally gaining the confidence and bravery she desperately wished?

She's finally managed shed her fears and her confidence issues, and she's became stronger. That was her goal. If Naruto returns her feelings or not, it's irrelevant.

I tell you, Kishimoto is actually stupid enough

I THOUGHT there were anti-bashing rules in this board.

You're personally insulting one person you don't know cause your baseless speculations. I don't think that's very nice or respectful.

to make NaruHina happen... all of a sudden.. without any build up... after all the NaruSaku hints... I can't believe it.

PRECISELY because the lacking of build-up and all the NaruSaku hints you shouldn't believe it and should remain calm.

Or what do you guys think happens? Naruto going to tell her "Sorry, but I love another girl"?

Yes. That's exactly what I think it'll happen. Or that or he pondering over his feelings for a long time. Certainly not an instant acceptance, long before the end of the manga.

Sakura, Lee, Jiraiya and even Ino know what a heartfelt confession doesn't mean your crush will return your feelings.

I just don't see that happening, since it doesn't make much sense.

Why doesn't it make sense? Naruto LOVES another girl. Why wouldn't it make sense telling her that? Otherwise he'd be toying with Hinata's feelings, pretending loving her back so she doesn't feel bad or because he thinks he owes her. It'd be way more cruel than turning her down.

It would be lame for the story.

Again, I repeat: Why? Why would be lame for the story tying several loose ends?

Kishimoto is willing closing that dangling plot thread in one or other way. My personal opinion/preference is he shouldn't have bothered with it, and I think the only logical outcome is Naruto turning Hinata down, or Hinata giving up voluntarily.

If Kishi really intended to somehow end NaruHina he would have killed Hinata.

I think your sentence is missing a "not" in some place.

Anyway, I don't understand why you think Hinata's survival guarantees a NaruHina. You have told yourself NaruHina lacks build-up and development, and there're plenty NaruSaku hints. Hence, NaruSaku is the most likely outcome whether Hinata survives or dies.

There's no build-up and no development, and Naruto is already in love with another girl. Therefore, Hinata's actions shouldn't be regarded like a serious threat. It's possible Kishimoto got Hinata confessing for closing the last plot thread involving Hinata. It's possible Kishimoto got Hinata confessing for getting Sakura frightened and jealousy.

Neither you nor I know what Kishimoto will do, but given what relationship has been developing since the first chapters and throughout the whole storyline, and what relationship hasn't got any development and has missed and squandered most of the few chances it had to be built upon, I think it's safe assuming NaruHina isn't inevitable. Not at all.

Please, don't think I'm deluding myself. It's possible NaruHina happens, so corny and ilogical how it'd be. However nobody should be really scared about it, or overreact.

But he just doesn't have the balls to kill any of the young ninja.

And he should have those balls why?

This series is aimed at young teens. Perhaps he thinks he can't draw a certain kind of scenes.

He could'nt even kill the little frog.

I thought Fukasaku was dead. When it was told he was still alive?

It isn't sarcasm. I'm seriously asking it, in case I've missed the moment where it was revealed.

Damn Kishi. No way I believe that Pain actually missed her vital points. Come on.

Blood came out of her mouth, so she's bleeding internally. I don't think Pain missed her vital points, but her wounds are killing her slowly.

Right now I think Sakura or someone else will save her, but it's also possible she can't do it.

[Sora no Kitsune]

In my opinion, i think it's still to early to make accurate guesses. This is kishimoto we are talking about. For all we know, he could lead with an interesting plot twist, then slap us across the face with an even bigger twist that no one would see coming. For now, lets just keep reading, and hope kishimoto doesn't screw this manga up.

Edited by zman170, 27 March 2009 - 10:01 PM.

[Orenji]

I got to throw my 2 cents in, even though its all said before.

Awesome chapter, I love bad ass Naruto, though I still have a hard time taking him seriously with his sage-mode eyes. They just sort of make me giggle.
Everything about the chapter has been said. Just... wow.

I wanna touch on the whole Hinata thing though.

Lets think about human emotion, for a minute. If someone jumped in front of you to save you and they took all of the hit, you're gonna remember, be grateful, and be mad. Whether or not its your best friend, a teammate, (I dont really know what to classify Hinata to Naruto other then just friend), or some random guy on the street, if they risk their life for you, you are going to feel it. The only reason why fans are reacting the way they are, is because its Hinata, the stalker girl whos in love with Naruto and who most people love. It could have been anyone, and I'm positive Naruto would have acted the same way. NaruSaku-ers are going to have to know that, whether we like it or not, Naruto is going to be upset about Hinata.

Someone mentioned that Naruto put his hand on his chest after remembering Hinata, but they're forgetting that he thought he had destroyed the VILLAGERS and Hinata. He thought HE was the one who did it.

I'm trying to clear my OWN head and looking it at a guy who has the simplest human emotions, not a guy whos IN LOVE with some girl he hardly knows.

[Sora no Kitsune]

I got to throw my 2 cents in, even though its all said before.

Awesome chapter, I love bad ass Naruto, though I still have a hard time taking him seriously with his sage-mode eyes. They just sort of make me giggle.
Everything about the chapter has been said. Just... wow.

I wanna touch on the whole Hinata thing though.

Lets think about human emotion, for a minute. If someone jumped in front of you to save you and they took all of the hit, you're gonna remember, be grateful, and be mad. Whether or not its your best friend, a teammate, (I dont really know what to classify Hinata to Naruto other then just friend), or some random guy on the street, if they risk their life for you, you are going to feel it. The only reason why fans are reacting the way they are, is because its Hinata, the stalker girl whos in love with Naruto and who most people love. It could have been anyone, and I'm positive Naruto would have acted the same way. NaruSaku-ers are going to have to know that, whether we like it or not, Naruto is going to be upset about Hinata.

Someone mentioned that Naruto put his hand on his chest after remembering Hinata, but they're forgetting that he thought he had destroyed the VILLAGERS and Hinata. He thought HE was the one who did it.

I'm trying to clear my OWN head and looking it at a guy who has the simplest human emotions, not a guy whos IN LOVE with some girl he hardly knows.

Well said man. :thumbs: Now if only we can get the NaruHina fans to realize this as well.

[Gaara]

Sorry if my post sounded mean, but I just don't like where this is going. I hope you guys are right and NaruHina doesn't happen, but I would'nt bet on it. There have been other mangas where something like this happened... at least I heard so.

Still think he should have killed her. I don't see the "this is aimend at kids" as excuse. I mean, if he can indicate Hinata's death he can let it happen as well. If he can kill Asuma and Co. he can kill Hinata as well. But whatever.

AND... why are you guys still so sure that Naruto STILL loves Sakura? Yeah, he definitely thinks she is attractive and all but he can't run after her forever and maybe he will think about dating Hinata. (Even the newest version of the official data book erased the part where it was written that Naruto loves Sakura)

Edited by Gaara, 27 March 2009 - 10:43 PM.

[Jenskott]

In my opinion, i think it's still to early to make accurate guesses. This is kishimoto we are talking about. For all we know, he could lead with an interesting plot twist, then slap us across the face with an even bigger twist that no one would see coming. For now, lets just keep reading, and hope kishimoto doesn't screw this manga up.

Yes. But ironically, if I feel worried about the future of NaruSaku, listening to other NaruSaku fans crying over the "death" of the pairing removes my doubts and worries.

Lets think about human emotion, for a minute. If someone jumped in front of you to save you and they took all of the hit, you're gonna remember, be grateful, and be mad. Whether or not its your best friend, a teammate, (I dont really know what to classify Hinata to Naruto other then just friend), or some random guy on the street, if they risk their life for you, you are going to feel it. The only reason why fans are reacting the way they are, is because its Hinata, the stalker girl whos in love with Naruto and who most people love. It could have been anyone, and I'm positive Naruto would have acted the same way. NaruSaku-ers are going to have to know that, whether we like it or not, Naruto is going to be upset about Hinata.

Someone mentioned that Naruto put his hand on his chest after remembering Hinata, but they're forgetting that he thought he had destroyed the VILLAGERS and Hinata. He thought HE was the one who did it.

You're right. He almost butchered Jiraiya the first time he lost control. The second time he lost control, he learnt he hurt Sakura, and the revelation horrified him. Hence, he'd feel incredibly frightened when he realized he had utterly lost it a third time, and incredibly relieved when he learnt there weren't casualties this time. So relieved he could sob in happiness.

[Sora no Kitsune]

Sorry if my post sounded mean, but I just don't like where this is going. I hope you guys are right and NaruHina doesn't happen, but I would'nt bet on it. There have been other mangas where something like this happened... at least I heard so.

Still think he should have killed her. I don't see the "this is aimend at kids" as excuse. I mean, if he can indicate Hinata's death he can let it happen as well. If he can kill Asuma and Co. he can kill Hinata as well. But whatever.

AND... why are you guys still so sure that Naruto STILL loves Sakura? Yeah, he definitely thinks she is attractive and all but he can't run after her forever and maybe he will think about dating Hinata. (Even the newest version of the official data book erased the part where it was written that Naruto loves Sakura)

Maybe they erased it because it's so commonlly known and shown in the majority of the manga that it doesn't need to be stated to be known... I honestly don't know. But even if kishimoto had no brains left in that skull of his, im sure he would have atleast made it clear that Naruto doesn't love Sakura (which i am 150% sure he does) Also, just because someone has a crush on someone and confesses, that doesn't mean that the crush will return the feelings, and i can think of atleast 4 examples of this occuring in the Manga.

Edited by zman170, 27 March 2009 - 10:55 PM.

[Jenskott]

Sorry if my post sounded mean, but I just don't like where this is going.

Sorry if I sounded mean or even hostile. And I apologise if I'm sounding mean now...

But you DON´T know where this is going. You just got frightened because Hinata grew a spine for once and confessed, and Kishimoto didn't kill her.

Forgive me for asking this, but... were you so insecure about NaruSaku, despite all the hints and constant, steady development, that you think it'll never happen if Hinata is alive? Despite the lacking of development and interaction?

I hope you guys are right and NaruHina doesn't happen, but I would'nt bet on it.

Why not?

There have been other mangas where something like this happened... at least I heard so.

You heard so... Are your sources trustworthy and reliable (online forums and screaming fans don't constitute a reliable source)?

Yes, there have been some mangas where something like that has happened. But in the vast majority of them, the pairing with most development becomes canon.

Some people cites Dragon Ball. Well, that example simply doesn't work because Goku and Bulma's relationship never got a development of romantic nature, neither Goku stated he was in love with Bulma.

Still think he should have killed her. I don't see the "this is aimend at kids" as excuse. I mean, if he can indicate Hinata's death he can let it happen as well. If he can kill Asuma and Co. he can kill Hinata as well. But whatever.

One thing is indicating it and other showing it. And Asuma was a grownup, not a sixteen-years old girl.

AND... why are you guys still so sure that Naruto STILL loves Sakura?

He constantly asks her out, he's tried spying her as she was naked, he was shocked/horrified when he learnt he'd hurt her and vowed never releasing Kyuubi again, he blushed when she stated she was going to feed him and he got very angry when they got interrupted...

Basically, his behavior towards her hasn't changed, but he's more mature.

Yeah, he definitely thinks she is attractive and all but he can't run after her forever and maybe he will think about dating Hinata.

And maybe Sakura will realize she can lose him, and confess her feelings to him. Maybe Hinata's confession pursues that end.

He's the guy never gives up. Why should he giving up his goal when he's, in fact, SUCCEEDING? Sakura and he are closer than ever.

(Even the newest version of the official data book erased the part where it was written that Naruto loves Sakura)

As far as I remember, in the relationship chart there were only two arrows going from Naruto. One of them pointed at Sasuke and the second pointed at Jiraiya. Do you think no longer he sees Iruka like his father, or Kakashi like his sensei, or no longer he has a relationship with Konohamaru? Do you think Gaara or Shikamaru aren't friends of him?

The databooks are full with contradictions and inconsistencies. And the third databook is NOTORIOUS for them.

Do you want another example? The relationships chart tells Hinata feels admiration for Naruto, but her profile tells she yearns for him. The chart also tells Sakura likes Sasuke and is worried about Naruto, but her profile tells she didn't really love Sasuke and she's grown feelings for Naruto whose nature she's trying figuring out.

Maybe they erased it because it's so commonlly known and shown in the majority of the manga that it doesn't need to be stated to be known... I honestly don't know. But even if kishimoto had no brains left in that skull of his, im sure he would have atleast made it clear that Naruto doesn't love Sakura (which i am 150% sure he does) Also, just because someone has a crush on someone and confesses, that doesn't mean that the crush will return the feelings, and i can think of atleast examples of this occuring in the Manga.

Sakura's confession and Lee's confession come to mind. There's no SasuSaku -in fact it got worse-, and there's no SakuLee so far in the story.

[Sora no Kitsune]

Sakura's confession and Lee's confession come to mind. There's no SasuSaku -in fact it got worse-, and there's no SakuLee so far in the story.

There is also Jiraiya to Tsunade and the other one, i think, is Ino to Sasuke. Even though Ino never offically confessed, she has made it pretty clear to Sasuke, who inturn ignored her, so you can take that as a technical rejection.