94 replies to this topic

[db84x]

@ rocci

Basically NS draw support form Naruto fandom, if some of NS keep raging uncontrolled than it will be hard for NS to prosper in Naruto fandom.  Without proper support from fandom, Naruto will avoid reboot like Superman (Superman x Wonder woman) or official extended story in other media like FF Tactic (Ramza x Agrias) and FF VII (Cloud x Tifa).  Don't forget support = money.

 

@ NarutoUzumaki01

Money came from support, your logic (liberal value) just glorify Kishi support (conservative value).  Some people indeed dance under Kishi palm without realize it.

 

@ Yyubie

Thanks for you support for smooth Kishi plan.

Edited by db84x, 07 February 2016 - 03:45 AM.

[Konoha'sCrimsonFox]

First of all, I don't even see the reason why we should debate this. It's only obvious that even a monkey is smart enough not to debate this because it's obviously who wins and the other gets schooled.

[NarutoUzumaki01]

@ NarutoUzumaki01

Money came from support, your logic (liberal value) just glorify Kishi support (conservative value).  Some people indeed dance under Kishi palm without realize it.

Well, people are famous for supporting stupid things  with Kishimoto's doing, it's  just another one on the list.

[db84x]

Honestly rather doing flame baptist for NH and SS in net like Kishi intended, fanatic can use their extra energy to review NS art and fancfic. 

[VanitasDS76491]

...If hinata was suppose to be that heroine. Why was she not apart of team 7? So you know she could get as much screen time as possible?

Good questions.

[db84x]

Idiot hero x tsundere heroine is heavily used in era when Naruto start and don't forget that Kishi himself is young mangaka.  As series continued for years market shrink due inability Naruto story to reset itself like OP start to plague the story while Kishi now married, have a son and new editor. Maybe Kish think plan for NS but when it time to insert romance condition change so story evolved base on condition,  

Edited by db84x, 09 February 2016 - 04:40 AM.

[TouKen4Life3g]

Which is fans based on a character. There are many possibilities:

-If Sakura was loved, NS would have been kept instead of having the protagonist going with the least liked
-NH popularity is no secret, so this must have caught on when determined the end
-Heroine = love interest based on Kishi's interview. Otherwise, there's no reason to make Hinata a heroine, especially since there are series that heroine don't mean love interest to the protagonist

The problem is that fans may be deluded by his tactics by pulling off what fans want, rather than what he wants. In other words, it's a fan manga. The flow never really work well in the war arc, like it always feel like forced or tacked on because fans want this or that. Like with Gai's eight gates, what's the real purpose behind it. Madara recovered and Gai didn't die. It stall but there's always a way to do it or even have something drastic. Yes, Gai broke his leg but the story never made it a big deal, it's just there.

[NaruSaku fan in Kentucky]

I am sick of people saying "Hinata saved him from Pein." Minato did, am I right? 

[milan kyuubi]

I am sick of people saying "Hinata saved him from Pein." Minato did, am I right? 

 

Well! In manga version, she did kitten. She even made the situation worse until DM Minato showed up! But in SP version. Apparently she did. Can't really remember in what episode they did this! 

[Yyubie]

I am sick of people saying "Hinata saved him from Pein." Minato did, am I right? 

Like i said before, Hinata could be the true heroine and help Naruto WAYYY....... long ago when naruto still suffering alone in his swing, She could have jump there and be there for him not from behind a tree or a wall. She jump and try to save Naruto from pein is because she doesn't want to die as a virgin ...

 

The fact that Hinata did literally NOTHING to help and comfort Naruto from his suffering for like 10 years [during academy], and she jump and help him just because hes about to die ... THINK about it.

[Nostradamus]

I am sick of people saying "Hinata saved him from Pein." Minato did, am I right? 

Yes.

[VanitasDS76491]

I am sick of people saying "Hinata saved him from Pein." Minato did, am I right? 

Ya Minato was the one who saved Naruto, Hinata just made the situation worse.

 

[db84x]

@Touken
It painfull saw how Naruto advance whatever the ship. Most of us glad that Naruto don't share Bleach fate.

I just sad saw some of NS still eating Kishi bait.

Edited by db84x, 10 February 2016 - 10:26 AM.

[TouKen4Life3g]

Bleach fate? Like what?

[NarutoUzumaki01]

Bleach fate? Like what?

Bleach what? Why would you use it if there is much better things to clean with... <- something like that, bleach's auditory it seems decreased alot.

[Yyubie]

Bleach what? Why would you use it if there is much better things to clean with... <- something like that, bleach's auditory it seems decreased alot.

Hes just trying to make us abandon Titanic and goes aboard his luxurious NH ship.

[rocci]

Bleach fate? Like what?

Lol it doesn't get cancelled even with dragging story and no anime.
Bleach is the true case of immortality.

Seriously, how can it has the same number of copy with ft?

[TouKen4Life3g]

Lol it doesn't get cancelled even with dragging story and no anime.
Bleach is the true case of immortality.

Seriously, how can it has the same number of copy with ft?

No idea. It seriously was supposed to be cancelled with so many circumstances yet because of volume sales, it's safe. I guess it no longer matters all else.

[rocci]

@touken
I guess that's the power of popularity.

[Bail o' Lies]

Honestly, I think bleach's quality actually improved after the anime was cancelled. I think no longer having to worry about the anime catching up lifted a weight off of kubo's shoulders.

 

As far as the anime being cancelled. I think the people working on it got tired of the slow pacing. They were constantly apologizing about having to stop the story to got into a filler arc. The reason why that anime was allowed to cancelled instead of keeping going on forever like Naruto was because they still had Naruto. Naruto was SP main money maker while Bleach was their second. So at the time they were probably fine with Bleach anime ending, and replacing it with the Rock lee SD series. They probably felt it wouldn't be disastrous for it to end and come back after the manga was finished. They are keeping Naruto alive because they having nothing else and the earning from that are probably whats keeping their company going. Even with the decline in rates. 

Edited by Bail o' Lies, 11 February 2016 - 08:06 AM.