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[Nate River]

Every time someone writes "heroine", I keep thinking of "heroin". It explains a lot about this ending, to be honest.

You aren't the only one.

Naruto lost the hero title basically when he was given a free pass on the power up

I always placed it at the moment he said Obito was cool.

Never thought I'd find myself saying this given our history, but I agree with you 100%, Dark.

It's funny, it took this indecency to make us come closer. XD

I think that whatever we all thought of this story, we all agree that the end was pure trash and are united in seeing it endlessly torn apart.

[sonicsucks]

Sakura was a protagonist not heroine. And Kishimoto never wanted her in the story to begin with along with sasuke. She's just a place holder for a triangle love story based on Naruto and Sasuke's rivalry aka the true protagonists of the series.

Besides you guys keep assisting she belongs to Naruto's development on a romance narrative when she also was romantically involved with Sasuke plot wise and was a major role in Sasuke's role in part two from different transitions in the characters change in the story.

She belongs to both characters but her solitary aspect that she kept for herself was always her deep love for Sasuke. As protagonist her own growth was getting acknowledged by him and her feelings for him.

Hinata is the heroine of the movie and should because Kishimoto established her as a major side character in the story during the Pein fight and didn't get a chance to tell her importance to Naruto personally in the story. After wards her establishment in the story was cemented via love confession and overall this movie emphasizes it.

[rocci]

Sakura is the heroine of this manga.

[sonicsucks]

There was no heroine. Only a a hero, a female protagonist, and duertagonist.

[rocci]

There was no heroine. Only a a hero, a female protagonist, and duertagonist.

There is a heroine. The heroine name is sakura.
Did kishi failed her? Yes he did.

Kishi create hero and then the rival and heroine to prolong the manga.

Edited by rocci, 29 November 2014 - 11:14 AM.

[Nar123]

Sakura was a protagonist not heroine. And Kishimoto never wanted her in the story to begin with along with sasuke. She's just a place holder for a triangle love story based on Naruto and Sasuke's rivalry aka the true protagonists of the series.

Besides you guys keep assisting she belongs to Naruto's development on a romance narrative when she also was romantically involved with Sasuke plot wise and was a major role in Sasuke's role in part two from different transitions in the characters change in the story.

She belongs to both characters but her solitary aspect that she kept for herself was always her deep love for Sasuke. As protagonist her own growth was getting acknowledged by him and her feelings for him.

Hinata is the heroine of the movie and should because Kishimoto established her as a major side character in the story during the Pein fight and didn't get a chance to tell her importance to Naruto personally in the story. After wards her establishment in the story was cemented via love confession and overall this movie emphasizes it.

Kishimoto himself in a interview said sakura was created as a heroine, so shut up
Though in the end he ultimately failed with her character that showed a lot of growth in early part 2 but was quite forgotten after it


Hinata is no heroine, she will be a damsel in distress in the movie, just another Hime character like shion, sara and koyuki from earlier movies

[sonicsucks]

Can I see this interview?

[Nar123]

Can I see this interview?

http://www.narusaku....opic=14741&st=0

[tricksie]

Sakura is the heroine, not matter what inane thing Kishimoto says in an interview, either before or now. Honestly, the man makes it a game to say something different each time. I don't know why we keep going back to him when the answer is in front of our faces, louder than his words could ever be.

 

Sakura is active female lead who evolves over the course of the story. She is integral to both the male lead and his antagonist. She takes out a villain without aid from the other leads. Her individual power and team rank is recognized over and over by the ones who've trained her. And those who've fought against her. And she has developed her own area of expertise (medic-nin) that is separate from the other two leads, where she has risen above all the rest to be the top of her field and surpass her own teacher. 

 

She is the heroine. There is no other. She is an active, fully developed character who has a storyline that progresses from hopes to goals to achievements. 

[sonicsucks]

She's not a heroine. She's not a character that drives the plot or is a key factor in the Mangas story.

[Nar123]

She's not a heroine. She's not a character that drives the plot or is a key factor in the Mangas story.

Kishimoto himself said man
Give it up.
In the end though his execution was flawed, Sakura's character was horribly done mainly in these two chapters for example


Now, let me give you another example huh? Let me see, back in early shippuden, in Sakura's best days, she was the one that made it possible the existence of the Sai and sasuke arc after getting the information about the meeting with the Akatsuki spy with sasori.
Soooo is this not "driving the plot "?

[rocci]

She's not a heroine. She's not a character that drives the plot or is a key factor in the Mangas story.

That's not always the case in shonen manga, especially jump.
Sometimes, it just a label give by the author.

[Nar123]

That's not always the case in shonen manga, especially jump.
Sometimes, it just a label give by the author.

But Sakura did drive the plot
Her development was flawed mainly in the ending but she was the heroine

[rocci]

But Sakura did drive the plot
Her development was flawed mainly in the ending but she was the heroine

Not as much as naruto and sasuke. Well this manga is revolve around this two. This is where I believe people too harsh on critic sakura. People expect her to become as an equal to naruto and sasuke, eventought sakura has importance level with kakashi. Add her lack action scene and focus only on bad romance to that and you got a heroine that hate by the majority of fans.

And yes, she is the heroine. I agree with that.

[tricksie]

She's not a heroine. She's not a character that drives the plot or is a key factor in the Mangas story.

 

Uh....she is. She is the reason Naruto pursues Sasuke. She is the reason Naruto fights all out with Gaara. I could go on and on. She drives the plot, alongside the main hero. 

[Naruko]

Neither. I would say NARUKO was the better Heroine 

Well thanks.

But hey guys, the heroine of NARUTO the series will always be Sakura, no matter how much Kishimoto regret it, he wrote her as the heroine and can't go back on that. But we can safely say that the heroine of NARUTO: The last was Hinata. But come on, who the hell kittening cares about a movie? We get Sakura in the manga, Hinata can't do anything against that.

[shisui]

She's not a heroine. She's not a character that drives the plot or is a key factor in the Mangas story.

 

If Sakura wasn't there in 699, Naruto and Sasuke would have died from bloodloss, for example. What has Hinata driven? Naruto's kitten off screen sure, but other than that?
 

[ThroughWithLove]

 

Uh....she is. She is the reason Naruto pursues Sasuke. She is the reason Naruto fights all out with Gaara. I could go on and on. She drives the plot, alongside the main hero. 

You're thinking of pre-retcon Sakura. Post-retcon Sakura is not the reason Naruto pursues. He saved Sasuke for himself. That's why the POAL does not get acknowledged. That also explains Naruto's babbling in chapter 460 about the POAL not being a big deal.

[DJSparty]

 

If Sakura wasn't there in 699, Naruto and Sasuke would have died from bloodloss, for example. What has Hinata driven? Naruto's kitten off screen sure, but other than that?
 

I'm out of likes....

[Tiller]

 

If Sakura wasn't there in 699, Naruto and Sasuke would have died from bloodloss, for example. What has Hinata driven? Naruto's kitten off screen sure, but other than that?
 

At this point I'd of preferred them to die on the mountain top. What we've gotten instead is nothing less then NH/SS worst level of fan fiction with the canon label applied to it.