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[narusaku256]

I saved it to use when needed to explain "panel placement." XD
 
 
Oh you're right. How could I be so stupid? Shame on me. Boy, is my face red. XD
 
 
 
Actually that was a typing error. My bad. Yeah....sarcasm....let's go with that

Yes yes your face is red XD

Btw, that awesome moment when your mistake is mistaken as sarcasm XD

[James S Cassidy]

Yes yes your face is red XD

Btw, that awesome moment when your mistake is mistaken as sarcasm XD

[Sakamaki Izayoi]

Kirito....I think is a good main character. He has issues, but it is normal in his situation. He develops over time and is actually pretty good in my opinion. Things get a little weird in last 4 episodes, with this weird...you know what, I don't want to spoil it, but if you can get past the weirdness of the last few episodes, then the show is amazing. Kirito is basically the badass hero who can do anything until he faces up against something that is a real challenge. He struggles only when it is needed and there is no sappy "woe is me" backstories where you need to feel sorry for some of the characters. Some I have even hate for good reason and I think you are supposed to feel that way.

I watched up to three chapters and i'm going to download and watch more.
First off i felt like Kirito is a midterm betwee goofy hero like Naruto(NAKAMANKAMANAKAMAETC>>) and a badass hero like Izayoi Samayaki from Mondaiji, i felt kind of unrealistic description of the MMORPG because the noobs let Kirito and Asuna do last job against the boss and didnt tried to KS them, i think even I would try to KS them hard there.
I'm enjoying the series.

The dark setting with death is cool.

Edited by Dαrkrєrsŧ, 21 July 2014 - 05:11 PM.

[Gravenimage]

If Hinata's love for Naruto is so strong, pure and undying why she run to him and hug him crying her eyes out??? But NOOOO Kishi chose Sakura and to hugged him in such a romantic/intimate way, yeah the kids blushing along with Kakashi (yep they got the message). Ever since 450 I'm with Narusaku4life3g I lost all credibility of NH been consider an actual official pairing. Said chapter would've been perfect for Kishi to put some emphasis on NH, but he didn't. If he didn't do it, it means NH isn't the pairing he's striving for.

[James S Cassidy]

I watched up to three chapters and i'm going to download and watch more.
First off i felt like Kirito is a midterm betwee goofy hero like Naruto(NAKAMANKAMANAKAMAETC>>) and a badass hero like Izayoi Samayaki from Mondaiji, i felt kind of unrealistic description of the MMORPG because the noobs let Kirito and Asuna do last job against the boss and didnt tried to KS them, i think even I would try to KS them hard there.
I'm enjoying the series.

The dark setting with death is cool.

They could have, but to them it is more than just a game. It is survival. Since they die in RL if they die in the game, people don't like taking too high of risks. No in-game item is for that, but I love the whole concept of "beaters" and calling the guys who played the Beta of the game cheaters because they held knowledge other did not. So it is not all unrealistic. And that one guy in the beginning did try to get the last hit to get the rare item selfishly despite also being a Beta tester.

One I know is for sure. The romance sub-plot is a hell of alot better than Naruto.

Edited by James S Cassidy, 21 July 2014 - 05:17 PM.

[narusaku256]

Yes yes your face is red XD

Btw, that awesome moment when your mistake is mistaken as sarcasm XD

LOL XD

[Diadochi]

Answer to your first question....It was to tease the fandoms yet again

Answer to your second question....It was not an NH moment. If Naruto only sensed Hinata, that makes him no better than selfish. When he had normAl sage mode, he could sense things from quite afar...so I need not tAlk about his range when he has senjutsu+kurama's chakra+other bijuus chakra+bijuu mode+rikudou's chakra. Honestly, does it make sense to you that he only sensed Hinata? Some chapters ago, he could sense Shikamaru was dying....so with all his abilities right now, I don't see why he'd sense only Hinata and not others. What'd that make him? The panels were pusposely placed in that order. Is it too hard to understand that?

At this point, where the story is so late in the game, there shouldn't be anymore teasing with the fanbase. If the story is ending in 2 months, THIS is the time to start foreshadowing concepts that'll be officially established by the finale. I know NS has the most development, that's one of the reasons for why I support it, but honestly speaking, I don't trust Kishi enough for him to ultimately deliver in on all of NS's development. He's pulled kitten like this in the past and he's got me nervous with this sudden SS moment.

 

Whatever you want to say. XD I just think you give him way too much credit.
 

Kirito....I think is a good main character. He has issues, but it is normal in his situation. He develops over time and is actually pretty good in my opinion. Things get a little weird in last 4 episodes, with this weird...you know what, I don't want to spoil it, but if you can get past the weirdness of the last few episodes, then the show is amazing. Kirito is basically the badass hero who can do anything until he faces up against something that is a real challenge. He struggles only when it is needed and there is no sappy "woe is me" backstories where you need to feel sorry for some of the characters. Some I have even hate for good reason and I think you are supposed to feel that way.

 

Here is even more questions
-Why would Naruto only care about Hinata and not the entire population being taken? That seems very OOC for Naruto.
-If it is all about panel placement then does this mean anything?

What does this mean?

-If NH and SS, then why all the NS moments? Why have Kakashi say that Sakura's feeling have changed? There was also LeeSaku, InoSai, InoSasu moments...what does that mean? "It's all one huge lie." -Naruto
-Why did Minato say that Sakura was like Kushina and also have Kushina say "Find someone like your mother?"
-What is the point of Karin? Why keep her alive if she is pointless?
-How come Naruto never got back to Hinata about her confession and seem to just forget it?
-How come Hinata wasn't the first one to hug him when he came back?
-How come Hinata wasn't there when Naruto needed someone the most?
-How come Sasuke didn't stay in the village?

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You have to understand the context in which manga panels are positioned. This panel with Sakura asking Hinata what Naruto and Sasuke are doing has nothing to do with pairings, even though Sakura's panel is positioned above Naruto's. It was to showcase that even after their long absence apart, Naruto & Sasuke still enjoy fighting together as one. Now the other panel specifically flowed from Hinata saying Naruto's name to Naruto reacting to her call. With the first panel, people have to make assumptions on whether that's a pairing reference or not, but with the second its a clear indication that it was to be taken so. And so I say again, there shouldn't be anymore teasing of the fanbase this so late in the game. If Kishi intends on establishing couples by the manga's end, then this is the time to start foreshadowing since the finale is only 2 months away. The only way Kishi will put me at ease is if he flat out shows a NS moment with both Naruto & Sakura together, and both of them conscious. I don't want anymore room for debate from Kishi. The finale is upon us.

Edited by Diadochi, 21 July 2014 - 05:22 PM.

[Sakamaki Izayoi]

They could have, but to them it is more than just a game. It is survival. Since they die in RL if they die in the game, people don't like taking too high of risks. No in-game item is for that, but I love the whole concept of "beaters" and calling the guys who played the Beta of the game cheaters because they held knowledge other did not. So it is not all unrealistic. And that one guy in the beginning did try to get the last hit to get the rare item selfishly despite also being a Beta tester.

I know but the funny part is that he wanted to ks the whole group when they were'nt attacking anymore the concept of KS is saving your best attack to the end, while the boss had give his back to the noobs of the room there, any KSer would have killed him, the items in the game increase their survival chance by being more strong.
But the guy who wanted to KS, did that alone by himself challenging the boss to 1v1 that's why he died.
I laughed off on this part.

[narusaku256]

At this point, where the story is so late in the game, there shouldn't be anymore teasing with the fanbase. If the story is ending in 2 months, THIS is the time to start foreshadowing concepts that'll be officially established by the end

And this is EXACTLY why me and some members here were pissed off at Kishi but decided to wait for the follow up which will be given in the next or next to next chapter!

Edited by narusaku256, 21 July 2014 - 05:26 PM.

[ns.Believe.It]

At this point, where the story is so late in the game, there shouldn't be anymore teasing with the fanbase. If the story is ending in 2 months, THIS is the time to start foreshadowing concepts that'll be officially established by the finale. I know NS has the most development, that's one of the reasons for why I support it, but honestly speaking, I don't trust Kishi enough for him to ultimately deliver in on all of NS's development. He's pulled kitten like this in the past and he's got me nervous with this sudden SS moment.

Fair enough. Maybe try and read the chapter thread, similar thoughts/doubts as yours have been brought up there and they have been answered as well.

Edited by ns.Believe.It, 21 July 2014 - 05:27 PM.

[Diadochi]

And that is why me and some members here were pissed off at Kishi but decided to wait for the follow up which will be given in the next or next to next chapter!

Kishi's got me so worked up that I've even contemplated on writing him a letter to remind him on all of NS's development, but decided against it. I mean why would he give a kitten about one fan?

[narusaku256]

Kishi's got me so worked up that I've even contemplated on writing him a letter to remind him on all of NS's development, but decided against it. I mean why would he give a kitten about one fan?

However he is planning to portray the romance in this story....I have full faith in his character writings. He has not forgotten ANYTHING he has written! The 'Uzumaki Barrage' in the latest or the one before the latest chapter proves that!

[James S Cassidy]

You have to understand the context in which manga panels are positioned. This panel with Sakura asking Hinata what Naruto and Sasuke are doing has nothing to do with pairings, even though Sakura's panel is positioned above Naruto's. It was to showcase that even after their long absence apart, Naruto & Sasuke still enjoy fighting together as one. Now the other panel specifically flowed from Hinata saying Naruto's name to Naruto reacting to her call. With the first panel, people have to make assumptions on whether that's a pairing reference or not, but with the second its a clear indication that it was to be taken so. And so I say again, there shouldn't be anymore teasing of the fanbase this so late in the game. If Kishi intends on establishing couples by the manga's end, then this is the time to start foreshadowing since the finale is only 2 months away. The only way Kishi will put me at ease is if he flat out shows a NS moment with both Naruto & Sakura together, and both of them conscious. I don't ant anymore room for debate from Kishi. The finale is upon us.

lol. Okay. you have me laughing hard.
 

You assume that Naruto had some kind of psychic connection with Hinata and literally read her mental screams for him. How? Naruto never showed nor has anyone in this series shown psychic abilities, telepathy, or any of that sort. So why should we assume Naruto can read minds? Notice that Hinata was the last panel too after everyone else was being taken and Naruto can sense people. If he could sense the entire army and all the people being taken, why would he just react to Hinata being taken? Even so, Naruto never says anything to confirm this like saying "Hinata is in danger" or something. If Hinata was the first to be shown to be taken and Naruto reacted to that before everyone else was taken, then maybe I would believe you.

 

You seem to forget Naruto as a character and who he is as a person. If you know what kind of character Naruto is, then you would know he is not the kind of person to ONLY care about one person when the entire army is in danger. Like I said, that would be extremely OOC of him. Look at the Pein Arc for example: He specifically asked if Hinata was okay after he came back to his sense. Here he does no such thing. I would say that the Pein Arc where he specifically asked about Hinata's safety was more a moment than that scene.

You say you don't want anymore room for debate, but again reverse the logic. If SS and NH are supposed to be the canon pairing, why haven't they got confirmation yet? It is a double-edge sword.

 

Edited by James S Cassidy, 21 July 2014 - 05:32 PM.

[BakeNeko-Chan]

Sorry I haven't been replying to any of your comments but I was on a business trip for work and I thought it was a good idea to leave my personal thoughts on NS before I went. Now rest assured, I'm not a troll or a SS/NH shipper, been shipping NS since Sakura admitted she was wrong about Naruto back in the Chunin Exams when he was facing Kiba, but even though I ship NS, it still doesn't make me blind to "possible" facts. If any of you haven't realized yet, apparently, Naruto is about to end in October and to commemorate its ending and its 15th anniversary, a new movie will be released October 17th. The general consensus is that Kishi might use the movie to be the official ending of Naruto. So in my mind, if Kishi is wrapping up Naruto so soon, in just a little over 2 months, then WHY have an SS moment now? And why was there an NH moment a couple of chapters back when Naruto sensed Hinata was getting trapped into the Infinite Tsukuyomi? These are questions that need to be asked and not ignored.

 

About the bolded, I know there's a rumor going around about this but has this actually been confirmed? If not, don't believe everything you hear. But anyway, regardless of when the series ends -- be it in two months or two years -- this "SS moment" is just not something I see as a big deal.

I understand your concerns, but I feel that people often make a bigger ruckus out of supposed pairing moments than need be.

 

The last chapter did not show anything concrete; Sakura didn't blush or look at Sasuke all starry-eyed, and Sasuke has not given any indication that he's grown feelings for her. I believe that this 'moment' with Sasuke and Sakura, and any that may come in the future, are just going to be part of the eventual resolution of Sakura's character. If Sasuke is going to be redeemed (and I believe he will) then Sakura needs to be able to come to terms with her relationship with him, and then she can finally let go of any lingering romantic attachment to Sasuke and finally embrace the feelings she'd grown for Naruto.

 

That's why I'm not bothered, because I knew some SasuSaku interaction was inevitable to Sakura's development. And truthfully, I'm glad. I want Sakura to resolve all the confusion and hurt that her misguided love for Sasuke caused her. NaruSaku aside, I want that for her.

 

As for NaruHina, I can't see it happening while Naruto continuously fails to shows any feelings deeper than friendship. Naruto likes Hinata, but Sakura is the girl he loves and 631 confirmed that not very long ago.

[James S Cassidy]

 

About the bolded, I know there's a rumor going around about this but has this actually been confirmed? If not, don't believe everything you hear. But anyway, regardless of when the series ends -- be it in two months or two years -- this "SS moment" is just not something I see as a big deal.

I understand your concerns, but I feel that people often make a bigger ruckus out of supposed pairing moments than need be.

 

Yeah I don't believe that either. Maybe the war ending in two months, but the manga itself? We haven't even gotten the Naruto vs Sasuke fight yet and Kishi said that would be at the end of the manga. Unless Kishi is just going to not do that, but then how would Kishi solve the Sasuke issue and how do we know what Sasuke is really after?

[Diadochi]

lol. Okay. you have me laughing hard.
 

You assume that Naruto had some kind of psychic connection with Hinata and literally read her mental screams for him. How? Naruto never showed nor has anyone in this series shown psychic abilities, telepathy, or any of that sort. So why should we assume Naruto can read minds? Notice that Hinata was the last panel too after everyone else was being taken and Naruto can sense people. If he could sense the entire army and all the people being taken, why would he just react to Hinata being taken? Even so, Naruto never says anything to confirm this like saying "Hinata is in danger" or something. If Hinata was the first to be shown to be taken and Naruto reacted to that before everyone else was taken, then maybe I would believe you.

 

You seem to forget Naruto as a character and who he is as a person. If you know what kind of character Naruto is, then you would know he is not the kind of person to ONLY care about one person when the entire army is in danger. Like I said, that would be extremely OOC of him. Look at the Pein Arc for example: He specifically asked if Hinata was okay after he came back to his sense. Here he does no such thing. I would say that the Pein Arc where he specifically asked about Hinata's safety was more a moment than that scene.

You say you don't want anymore room for debate, but again reverse the logic. If SS and NH are supposed to be the canon pairing, why haven't they got confirmation yet? It is a double-edge sword.

 

Dude, the panel with Naruto sensing Hinata's calling was made to showcase those often used romance cliche's portrayed in movies. You know, somehow the guy can sense his significant other in distress over long distances, almost as if they were spiritually connected. That's why I'm worried, since the ending is so near.

Edited by Diadochi, 21 July 2014 - 05:46 PM.

[BakeNeko-Chan]

 

Yeah I don't believe that either. Maybe the war ending in two months, but the manga itself? We haven't even gotten the Naruto vs Sasuke fight yet and Kishi said that would be at the end of the manga. Unless Kishi is just going to not do that, but then how would Kishi solve the Sasuke issue and how do we know what Sasuke is really after?

 

Yeah, I can't see Kishi being able to wrap everything up in a mere two months. There would be far too much left unresolved even without anything pairing related, and didn't Kishi say in a recent interview that he wanted to end the manga conclusively, or something along those lines?

[narusaku256]

Dude, the panel with Naruto sensing Hinata's calling was made to showcase those often used romance cliche's portrayed in movies. You know, somehow the guy can sense his significant other over long distances almost as if they were one. That's why I'm worried, since the ending is so near.

Then I might as well add that Sakura has some sort of telepathic connection with Naruto! Why? Because when Pain devastated Konoha....she screamed at the top of her voice 'Hurry up.....NARUTOOOO' and the next moment....Naruto appears in Konoha! How about this as a NS moment as well? Much stronger one, right? If going by your logic, Naruto just reacts to Hinata's mind call....but in Sakura's case...he literally ARRIVES PHYSICALLY on the battlefield, on her call! Isn't this much stronger than the NH moment you just mentioned?

Edited by narusaku256, 21 July 2014 - 05:49 PM.

[TouKen4Life3g]

First of all....THAT RUMOR IS A LIE.

I mean he could announce it along with the movie sure, but as of now, it didn't say it.

[ns.Believe.It]

Dude, the panel with Naruto sensing Hinata's calling was made to showcase those often used romance cliche's portrayed in movies. You know, somehow the guy can sense his significant other in distress over long distances, almost as if they were spiritually connected. That's why I'm worried, since the ending is so near.

 

Pein has just destroyed Konoha,

Sakura: Naruto, Please hurry!!!

Naruto appears!