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Posted 02 April 2014 - 10:34 AM

i'm not so bothered about kaguya had the byakugan. She was the origin of all three great doujutsu: Rinnegan, sharingan and rinnegan, due to the fact that she ate the sacred fruit of the Shinjuu. If you have noticed, also the human transformation of the Shinjuu, the Juubi, had a great and one eye, which included 9 tomoe (as the sharingan), the spiral (as the rinnegan) e a purple pattern (as the byakugan).

 

nothing new to me. Is this a NH proof? Hilarious. Also the fact that Kishi drawn here under Kushina is also a NH proof? Funny, so the fact that Kiba or Shino are also drawn under Minato's figure is a strong NH proof?  I liked the fact the Sasuke' sfigure, alongside sasuke's, is at the center of the group and are those who are drawn bigger, like kishimoto wanted to underline her importance to Naruto..

But of course, Hinata is more importante because she was near to Kushina and this's a strong proof LOL

 

It's only me o I  think that, by comparing hinata to kaguya or what else from NH fandom, is a great and negative proof? Because this kaguya girl, of course, is pretty the most bad person that the world have never had. LOL


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Posted 02 April 2014 - 10:43 AM

What bothers me about Sasuke, it's not the fact that he will have a power up, because it was foreshadowed for a long time, so it's no surprise.
But I really don't like the fact that Hagoromo gave honnor to him by his presence in his inner self.
I thought this would be Naruto only to have those kind of things.


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Posted 02 April 2014 - 10:46 AM

Well this was a good chapter, we got a short history and now narutos time with the sage was kept short and simple. It was obvious that a shura and Indra were also like hashirama and Madara and Sasuke now. It was a given to see how Sasuke was like him but that Madara was the one that deviated and this is why after his fight with hashirama, he could never regain the power he had before, only gaining the rinnegan and well being old and weak by the time he did awaken it. It was a neat aspect to see the sage and how he thought even his own motives could be called for the wrong reasons but he basically sees that his time is up. It's up to naruto and Sasuke now. Sasukes conversation will be revealed in time. Now they both get a powerup apparently, naruto it may be the tailed beast humanoid avatar a shura used, Sasuke aside from the rinnegan may get a full sussano but we know how Madara will be taken down now. I also find it great that hagomoro said what the infinite tuyskiomki would do, that it's not a simple genjutsu but that the one controlling the tree, basically incapacitates all people and has the tree root them for good but they see their dreams. Also how the event of this will culminate with the fruit coming. Perhaps kaguya was somewhat evil in a sense then as Madara is just obsessed with power?

As for the wildcard of this chapter, well it's hard to believe but the byukugan coming in as something kaguya possessed but this whole thing, after so long, as I said, it just seems completely as a head stracher, it was reason enough to have the rinnegan first, sharigan second with Indra being the first one to use it but it just seems so odd and out of place right now, I mean there was never any importance put onto the hygua in regards to the sage or eye of the moon plan, and even then it's even harder to estimate just how the heck did the byukugan come into desndents later on if it was the senju derived from ashura, later giving room to the uzumaki while the Indra line became the uchiha? Why is it with these events though not a nh moment, it just makes things more puzzling? I mean granted, some nh fans may go crazy and think that now their hinata literally comes from a goddess (oh god please Kishi look what you did) I mean it's just strange to say the least, the byukugan before the rinnegan? Even the sharigan for that matter? Did kaguya get this from the fruit? That's a question we won't knows sadly the deal with the sage leaving means we won't figure much else out unless Madara or yin kurama were able to reveal more about that time but for the time being, I wouldn't be worried. It's a very odd thing that's out of place, and it's not as if it's a nh moment, it's just mentioning a power kaguya had. By chance if this did somehow spill over into an event needing hinata, it would be just outright well, underwealhming, I mean I don't see hinata getting god like powers but if this small thing was made just to give her a bigger role despite after all this time Kishi had bypassed her essentially or left the hygua story itself behind, it would just feel so out of place, it's like if Inari from the ancient land of waves arc somehow came back actually as a ninja rather than a bridge builder, it would make no sense. I mean yeah hinata has something left in the future, presumably character resolution in the aftermath of this fight,but in the current timeframe there still isn't anything I can see that actually involves her with importance. I mean we have sakura there for reasons we know 100 times over by now but really again hinatas last period of importance was in 615, it's been almost a year and a half since then, again over 50 or so chapters of any real importance for her and then again, she vanishes. I don't hate hinata but for a simple event of hers every 50 chapters that then fades to the back, it's not a good design, I mean the thing i always got tuned off from by hinata was simple, kishis infrequent use of her, if she isn't given as much focus, she isn't as important and just doing this so suddenly would be a bad move. I mean she's gotten up by now but seriously instill don't see exactly anything she could feasibly do to try and aid in this war, also considering even Madara didn't really pay any important focus on the hygua, even for the fact of there being nothing special I guess you can say, well what is it hinata could do in this situation for the battle? That's what nh and hinata fans need to ask themselves, what exactly could hinata do by her design and role to actually help naruto and Sasuke just because it was mentioned that kaguya held the byukugan. It's would be hard to find a real answer because loving someone cannot do everything. Though some fans may make hinata having goddess wrath on sakura now because of this mention.

Even then while nh fans may go into overdrive by this, it's nothing major, it's just again an statement that kaguya had the byakugan. It's definitely no parallel I'll tell you that, hinata didn't try to end a war or make people fear her. It doesn't change the fact of what occurred in 631 and 662 and 663 or the Kushina foreshadow when anything pairing wise is hinted. We still have a recovery scene to look forward too hopefully we may see one. Even then it's not like hinata is the reincarnation of kaguya, that would be literally insane and it's even more unlikely to happen, I mean I doubt hinata met the sage as well but it's just that, the whole stuff with the byukugan or hygua now having an important role in connection to the sage? Wouldn't this then make nh feel weird if she was in fact the reincarnation of kaguya? It would be the reincarnated son having a relation with his reincarnated grandmother, that seem strange in feeling to people? Its just so out of place it feels, I mean it's sudden and it's kinda a third disrupter factor in the whole senju uchiha jubbi connection we have understood for years.

Guess on a good side is now that the stuff with the sage is over, we may get to the moment we hope for next chapter. Alongside also the end of guy as well. The byakugan stuff, it's strange but not the biggest deal for now, it will only become a bigger deal if things actually put more emphasis on it, otherwise for now, it's a simple statement that it's an ability kaguya had. This doesn't change the fact of what we have been going with senju uchiha wise in importance and otherwise the stuff with sakura, actual pairing stuff is still there,this wasn't a nh moment in anyway just by the stuff kaguya had and it's just very hard to think that hinata would actually somehow be the reincarnation and get the fruit. It seems like this is what nh will envision but nothing has happened yet and it's likely it won't but for now, it's just an oddity lets say for kaguya to have the byukugan and sharigan before the rinnegan even existed. It's odd but nothing has come to impact ns yet or the recent development from it, I mean sakura is still the only girl like Kushina that counts for something. Until then we may have a moment coming next chapter or 2 when naruto finally wakes up and otherwise this kaguya byukugan stuff, no major unless more emphasis is put onto it, for now it's safely just a menton, not something to be concerned of. I only wrote this much in this post because well it's was a curious effect on just how sudden this reveal was but again, nothing to stress over especially when we may have a recovery scene coming soon.

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Posted 02 April 2014 - 10:47 AM

What bothers me about Sasuke, it's not the fact that he will have a power up, because it was forshadowed for a long time, so it's no surprise.
But I really don't like the fact that Hagoromo gave honnor to him by his presence in his inner self.
I thought this would be Naruto only to have those kind of things.

 

hagoromo visited to madara too, so it wouldn't be a great problem LOL


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Posted 02 April 2014 - 10:52 AM

Well now Naruto and Sasuke will be on equal footing... Now instead of Naruto curbstomping Sasuke in their final fight, they'll have a more or less equal battle. What an easy way to do that, Kishi. Ugh.

Wasnt it obvious that fight isnt going to be easy for any of them?



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Posted 02 April 2014 - 11:26 AM

i'm not so bothered about kaguya had the byakugan. She was the origin of all three great doujutsu: Rinnegan, sharingan and rinnegan, due to the fact that she ate the sacred fruit of the Shinjuu. If you have noticed, also the human transformation of the Shinjuu, the Juubi, had a great and one eye, which included 9 tomoe (as the sharingan), the spiral (as the rinnegan) e a purple pattern (as the byakugan).

 

nothing new to me.

 

I guess you're right about Kaguya's eyes. I didn't see it like that. I presumed the eyes were already here before she ate the fruit, but in fact, we don't really know.


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Posted 02 April 2014 - 11:29 AM

Hinata is probably Kaguya's reincarnation. She will become so strong and aid Naruto stop Madara. Okay putting sarcasm aside it was a good chapter though NH fans will be screaming canon and because was below Kushina, meaning Hinata=Kushina (they will disregard 631 as it never happened). I just figured Kishi needed to give out the origin it doesn't necessary means will get the spot light as she was a main character. I'm looking forward to the nex chapter (crossing fingers for NS recovery scene).


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Posted 02 April 2014 - 11:33 AM

 

hagoromo visited to madara too, so it wouldn't be a great problem LOL

 

Oh he did ? I didn't get that one !
Where did you see this ?


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Posted 02 April 2014 - 11:38 AM

it was pretty clear implicity. He makes visit to all reincarnations of his sons.


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Posted 02 April 2014 - 11:48 AM

it was pretty clear implicity. He makes visit to all reincarnations of his sons.

 

Ah I know what you mean. Yes it's true that it's pretty implicit.
When Naruto asked him if he watched his sons fight all this time, it made me think that Hagoromo must have suffered a lot.
 

Also, page 8 made me think about Matrix.

Naruto was totally heart-breaking and adorable on page 15 with this smile, surprised and happy at the same time. I think we never saw this expression on his face before.
And on page 9, when he thanks the sage, he looked so humble/intelligent/manly.

I just love how Naruto is.

I was really badly surprised to see that Hagoromo was with Sasuke too.

Even if I'm one of those that know that Sasuke will be redeemed, and kinda want it, When Kishi does it, it hurts me.


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Posted 02 April 2014 - 12:02 PM

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the idea of yin yang(opposite force) and the propechy indeed come from the matrix. 



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Posted 02 April 2014 - 12:14 PM

Hinata is probably Kaguya's reincarnation. She will become so strong and aid Naruto stop Madara. Okay putting sarcasm aside it was a good chapter though NH fans will be screaming canon and because was below Kushina, meaning Hinata=Kushina (they will disregard 631 as it never happened). I just figured Kishi needed to give out the origin it doesn't necessary means will get the spot light as she was a main character. I'm looking forward to the nex chapter (crossing fingers for NS recovery scene).

 

 Because of this Kagyua having the byuakugan statement occuring. Right now I see some fans ready to pounce on this like mice after having been deprived of some drug for a while.

 

I mean there were jokes about how some NH fans treated hinata like a goddess but this takes it too far.

 

I mean some people believe that because Hinata was knocked out she somehow too met the sage, I doubt this happened though because I mean at least Naruto found it from the tailed beast chakra, but sasuke is another story, maybe its just because both have the chakra of Ashura and Indra. But Hinata is no parallel to Kagyua, in fact the real reason I wasn't exactly happy with this Kagyua thing wasn't because she had the Byuakugan, also the Sharigan.

 

Its the fact that for the longest time, we were following the aspect of Rinnegan came first, Senju and uchiha were descendents of the sages sons, orochimaru and Kabuto found that the sharigan is a subform deviation from the Rinnegan. In line with the senju wood style, both the senju and uchiha powers derived from the ten tails itself:

 

Senju wood style- the fact it can suppress tailed beast chakra and absorb it goes in line with the fact that the ten tails itself is a tree which can absorb any chakra.

Uchiha Sharigan- holds the aspects of the juubi's eye (with the ripple pattern of the rinnegan) its the fact that since the jubbi is the prime source of all chakra and its a natural force and god-like being, its a reason the sharigan has powers involving copying, using abilities like sussano which are said to be "destruction incarnate" the amaterasu and tsyuokmi, etc.

 

When combined, this made the rinnegan which held all elements and other powers, aka going back to the primal stage, back to the original, the fact of what was once divided has returned to one again.

 

If one thing was going well for kishi's writing, I liked how it involved this aspect of genetic changing through the generations but this stuff with Kagyua just made things more confusing.

 

Now for the longest time, in the story, kishi put emphasis on senju-uchiha, to sage. Wood style and sharigan were needed for Madara's plan and at that, all these things were rare in availability in the time for madaras plan to take place. Nowhere were the Hyuga ever mentioned in the plan nor connected to the sage for the longest time storywise. I mean we got the Uzumaki clan related to the senju, but it was easily inferred as either a group of senju at some time broke off and became the uzumaki over the generations or they are desended from Hagoromo's brother. As for the Hyuga, well for the longest time as there was no connection, it was either the sharigan changed so much that the Hyuga lost their ancestral connection and became their own independent occuclar kekkei genkei, or that they started in some other way from the era of when Hagoromo taught people to use ninjutsu and it began from a small group of people unrelated to them.

 

Now the sole fact that Kaguya has not just the Byuakugan but also the Sharigan? Its like how is this possible? Didn't the Rinnegan come first? If the mother has it, then how was it obtained? Did the fruit cause this? Being near god like could she somehow form it? In fact when did Hagoromo obtain the Rinnegan? At birth or once the Jubbi was absorbed? See the issue here, its just too confusing now, it was fine with Hagoromo has the rinnegan, but now his mother has both what would be considered the subforms? I mean she didnt have wood style thats a given but how could the sharigan let alone byaukgan exist on her? Does this mean whoever eats the fruit gains one sharigan and byaukgan or hybrid eyes? Does this mean hinata would somehow gain sharigan too? This is what I don't like, the sole fact that how could the derived eye techniques exist when the prime one followed onto Hagomoro, whos own children would later bring about the wood style and sharigan, leaving the Byaukgan as the complete odd one out of how did it reemerge within the Uchiha bloodline? Its become an equation of instead of simply:

 

wood style + sharigan = rinnegan

 

to:

 

Sharigan and Byaukgan exist before Rinnegan, rinnegan comes in, rinnegan seperates into wood style and sharigan with woodstyle having a relation to those who have enhanced stamina, with the byaukgan having no clear indication of how it reemerged later on.

 

Kishi just made this complicated

 

I mean the chapter was good, I'm not concerned at all pairing wise, this statement in no way intersects with what kishi has done in regards to showing how NS could come around, even those old factors of sakura cannot just end loving sasuke without being determental to her development still would stand as a bigger issue, I mean even the sage let naruto and sasuke to decide the fate of this old cycle indicating, this cycle will end so you know, we were right in naruto being able to do what his predessessors wasn't able to do. This statement hasn't changed NS one bit nor was it a NH moment, I mean Hinata fans can take pride in that the Byuakugan did exist on one of the most powerful beings in the naruto universe, but until then, there hasnt been any connection or stuff done with hinata. I highly doubt she met the sage as well, I mean that would be even more out of place if she somehow was the reincarnation of Kagyua. For anything else, the hygua have been left out so long, just because the power exists on Kagyua doesn't mean they will suddenly get a major power or role, its like if there was this much focus again on just the senju and uchiha, why in the whole extent of this eye of the moon plan did madara never even need the hyuga, kishi made it clear that they were not important to the plan or the jubbi for so long, just to start it now would be out of place. I mean I doubt Hinata is going to be related to Kaguya, somehow as a reincarnation by any means, I doubt she would get the fruit madara plans to achieve, even then I believe the fruit may just be destroyed. Maybe some fans even I are making too much out of this, but again, its just the fact that this statement doesn't concern me pairingwise, as if it did later involve pairings then it would again be the fact of why did kishi even bother writing this if either Sakura wasnt going with naruto or if Kushina's foreshadow even mattered? Its just again a huge conflict of what we have been told for so long just makign an issue between the whole Rinnegan to Wood style/ sharigan empahsis with the fact that the mother of the sage herself possessed the sharigan and that the buyaukgan somehow existed at this time with no clear indication beforehand if the byaukgan was even related to the sharigan.

 

I mean theres a lot to look forward to, we may have a NS scene coming up, Guy is about to die a dramatic death, but unless this is the end of it, does kishi actually intend to use hinata in someway for this fight? I doubt it but its just what can she do? I mean given this is the last time we see Hagomoro and I don't think Hinata went unconisous let alone somehow met Hagoromo too, but for her to play an important role or be the reincarnation of Kagyua, that would be to hard to believe. So for now, it doesn't matter, rather its just that somehow Kaguya had the sharigan and byaukgan, even then having the Sharigan could lead to an aspect of, well then shouldn't hinata somehow obtain the sharigan if she is related spiritually? Its not an issue unless it actually occurs.

 

So in summary:

Kagyua somehow possessed the sharigan and byuakugan making a strange puzzling event

NS is still fine, nothing has impacted it, it still holds on well, the kushina event of 631 is still in play, 662+3 were recent good moments, we may just have another soon like next chapter.

NH hasn't done anything for a while, it could but its just been unused, the whole aspect of Kagyua possessing the Byuakugan doesn't change anything.

Its unlikely that Hinata somehow is the reincarnation of Kagyua or even met Hagoromo without good reason like Naruto and Sasuke.

It would be very unusual for Hinata to just be such a minor character suddenly given a big role and thrown into the grinder of events right now when Naruto and Sasuke are getting their powers, awakening, and ready to fight madara.

The stuff will only become an issue if during the fight or if we see hinata again, theres mention of her and and the sage but even then, this wouldn't nessessarily cross over into conflict with the NS stuff like kushina's foreshadow or what we may see from sakura soon.

 

Just as a final sidenote, hagomoro said his mother controlled the world and eventually she was feared like a demon and that if people get too much power they will lose control and that Madara is doing that, exactly like Kagyua, so does this in effect mean that Kagyua became obsessed, lost control, and was in essesence, a villian like Madara?


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Posted 02 April 2014 - 12:28 PM

Btw, at the near end of the manga, where its shown that Hagoromo was handing his staff to both of them, was it that Sasuke appeared in Naruto's subconscience or was it that Hagoromo handed his staff to them in their respective subconscience and it was shown as one!?


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Posted 02 April 2014 - 12:33 PM

 

 

Yeah, that's what I assumed when I read it.

 

This chapter really aggravated my chronic bias.  Sasuke just... makes me sick.  
 
I'm so tired of him and his smug face.  I'm so tired of Kishimoto propping him up as if he's Naruto's equal in any way.  As if he's honorable and worthy deep down, and he's simply been disenfranchised and misunderstood.  Boo hoo.
 
I'm so tired of Naruto working so hard, and caring, and hoping, and denying himself, and forgiving, and then -- after doing whatever he pleases for his own cold and selfish reasons -- Sasuke walks back on the scene and is granted the same power, rights, and visionary responsibility as Naruto.
 
It kind of broke my heart to see Naruto smile so genuinely at the thought of essentially being Sasuke's brother, and that together they could make peace.  
 
Naruto will be the one who makes it happen, and Sasuke will get equal credit?  It turns me off.
 
Sigh. I don't like being negative, but Sasuke leaves such a bitter and disgusting taste in my mouth that I can't help it.

 

 

 

Naruto devotion to Sassuke is driven me crazy plus I hate the way how Kishimoto makes thinks so easy for Sasuke that in a way he can be easily handed a new power up, I remember that back at the start of this Manga it was said that he was a born natural genius with a lot of talent so it should be easy for him to develop new skills but instead all we get from Kishimoto is plot set up for some one to give him new powers.
On Naruto side, despite the devotion on respect everyone shows him he still seems to place Sasuke above everyone else, sometimes I fill like he is one of the worst main character I ever seen.
 
A part from that I really are enjoying the latest chapter and finally after 8 plus months in 4 more days I will be back home. God first.


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Posted 02 April 2014 - 12:34 PM

Can we talk about Sakura for a moment? I mean she's done a great job healing everyone and saving Naruto, but after this chapter I can't help but feel like Kishimoto is shoehorning Sakura off to be a background character once more healing everyone and watching from the sidelines while Sasuke and Naruto get all the glory and power ups. What about Sakura? Doesn't she deserve another power up of sorts like Naruto and Sasuke, so she can be on equaling footing with them? I know it seems kinda silly, but seriously I want Sakura to be shown as the heroine that she is! Not be put in the background and let the boys have all the fun, she deserves to be in this fight as much as them!

Your post made me realise... In 632, Sakura said she finally caught up with them. Yeah... She spoke too soon, aha.

Wasnt it obvious that fight isnt going to be easy for any of them?

Um, yeah, but that wasn't my point...

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Posted 02 April 2014 - 12:50 PM

Okay...strange chapter...anyways first page...was that an official colored page?

 

Secondly...i guess Kaguya having the Byakugan was a true prediction, I swear I didn't see it coming, I guess that brings some relevance to Hinata, but she only gained it after eating the fruit, and this chapter revealed just how f**** evil Kaguya was. 

 

Also...does that mean rinnegan is a completely independant eye technique...maybe the technique of the father and not the mother.

 

Who was it that made the prophecy again? Gamamaru? Is that the old toad?


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Posted 02 April 2014 - 12:51 PM

@otaru

the idea of yin yang(opposite force) and the propechy indeed come from the matrix. 

 

I would say yin yang and prophecies are in many stories.

But the idea of sucking life energy like it was presented, with humans attached to the tree, and the false reality, is really Matrix only, if i'm not wrong.


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Posted 02 April 2014 - 01:00 PM

^ Well, no surprise. Kishi is a big fan of The Matrix.

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Posted 02 April 2014 - 01:03 PM

gamamaru could be the true name of the Oogama-sennin (the old toad sage) since the databook III said that he has a thousands of years..


Edited by 六道仙人, 02 April 2014 - 01:04 PM.

は天才バスケットマン桜木花道。

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Posted 02 April 2014 - 01:19 PM

This chapter really aggravated my chronic bias.  Sasuke just... makes me sick.  

 
I'm so tired of him and his smug face.  I'm so tired of Kishimoto propping him up as if he's Naruto's equal in any way.  As if he's honorable and worthy deep down, and he's simply been disenfranchised and misunderstood.  Boo hoo.
 
I'm so tired of Naruto working so hard, and caring, and hoping, and denying himself, and forgiving, and then -- after doing whatever he pleases for his own cold and selfish reasons -- Sasuke walks back on the scene and is granted the same power, rights, and visionary responsibility as Naruto.
 
It kind of broke my heart to see Naruto smile so genuinely at the thought of essentially being Sasuke's brother, and that together they could make peace.  
 
Naruto will be the one who makes it happen, and Sasuke will get equal credit?  It turns me off.
 
Sigh. I don't like being negative, but Sasuke leaves such a bitter and disgusting taste in my mouth that I can't help it.

 

 

Agree. It took me a few panels to catch on to what was happening. Naruto is the child of prophecy! Enjoy your status for three, two, one.... *whispers* now read the fine print about it being just about the bijuu. And then Bam! there's Sasuke. Sorry, Naruto, you're only one half of a f'd up whole, a hangover from sibling rivalry a few generations before you. But don't feel bad, you're just as special as Sasuke is!

 

It would be like reading Harry Potter (another child of prophecy), only to get to book seven and discover that the prophecy only applied to aspect of his life and that really to reach his destiny he must now partner with Draco (and that his destiny really had been equally foretold, only no one knew about it).

 

This is what frustrates me about Kishimoto. He violates his own long-term story lines. Naruto has been the child of prophecy. He has been the one who will restore peace. But now, the rules have changed: It's up to him and Sasuke. Apparently neither can do it alone. While this is great for balance, touchy-feely story, etc., it veers from the expectations originally set forth: That this is Naruto's hero's journey, not Naruto and Sasuke's.

 

(It reminds me of when Itachi converted Sasuke from his evil ways. That was supposed to be Naruto's sole objective. But he got a pass.)

 

And yeah, I hated to see Naruto's genuine smile. I so feel like Sasuke doesn't deserve it. And Naruto saying they were great friends!?!?! Wha?! Am I reading the same story? Since when have they been 'great friends'? This, to me, is one of those lines Kishimoto throws in there to hand-wave over all of Sasuke's dirty work and all of Naruto's responsibility to hold his crummy friend accountable.

 

La-la-la! We're friends...so whatever Sasuke did, it's all okay now! La-la-la!

 

Last thing that I know is going to bother me in the future is when we find out that lots of people knew about this reincarnation thing: Madara, Obito, Itachi, the Uchihas who understood the stone, the old Uzumakis (probably), Nagato, Jiraiya, the toads....

 

Sort of like finding out that there was a much wider circle of people who were fiercely loyal to Minato, etc., in life, yet didn't step up to keep Naruto from being Konoha's outcast as a child. 

 

Ugh. Sasuke. I did enjoy the chapter overall, but that aspect just brings the whole thing down for me!

 

On another note, the mythology is interesting. I wonder how the Rabbit Goddess's story is going to play out? I have a feeling she unleashes some sort of evil into the world (or the bijuu themselves) that the son has to atone for. With the last big bad black image of her, I don't think she goes quietly into that good night. 






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