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#61 Phantom_999

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Posted 09 March 2014 - 01:21 AM

Because i havent posted my whole opinion about it.
She left konoha with the feelings of guilty, sadness and a tough attitude with the expression of someome who believes is going to do the right thing.
She plans the confession, because returning Naruto's feelings is the best scenario, make Naruto happy and lessen his pain of Sasuke.
She decides to return Naruto's feelings to keep him safe it's a sacrifice.
She knew it would not work but went with the same reason Naruto went to talk with the raikage.


[b/]The confession fails then she does the plan B : Kill Sasuke.
However if it was for Sasuke's sake she would do it with her teammates if it was for Naruto, she would do it alone and make him hate her since she knows that Naruto knows about her feelings for Sasuke.[/b]

All confrontations are avoided and Naruto is unable to preceive and acknowledge Sakura's actions.

Sakura was willing to sacrifice herself, she did planned things however she failed due to her own feelings.
On the confession her inability to prove to Naruto she didnt loved Sasuke and the confession being uninspired and on the later her inability of killing Sasuke and that she was aware of it because she loved him.
She's shown to be faultering at the moment she met him at the bridge and yet even during the meeting she was still evaluating the decision to kill him.

 
You just said the reason why the confession would never work, she didnt loved Naruto and after all the things Naruto witnessed between Sakura and Sasuke would you think a simple love would make Naruto believe?
His first reaction was of suspicious and even Sakura herself knew it would fail but she did it just like Naruto also tried to ask the raikage to pardon Sasuke.
It doesnt mean she loves Naruto romantically, she even tried to explain that she didnt cared about Sasuke and even worse made it look like she wants to be with Naruto because she could be with Sasuke.
How can she be honest on this moment?
I dont get why people try so hard to prove that Sakura was honest there when it makes no sense.

About the last part, it was poor executed however it wasnt a confession because the picture is about Sakura realzing Naruto's actions from her point of view.
And that's mirrored on the current chapters by now, she doesnt love Naruto but it's kinda obvious that the impression she's showing by now is that despite liking Sasuke she prefers to return Naruto's feelings, she's just not confused.

 
On the contrary my friend, I see nothing "new about your argument". and I also have counters of my own to them. 
 
for instance you said she was "trying to return Naruto's feeling's out of obligation to him and not out of genuine love." Again to do that she would have to reason out why she would say that, and that involves planning and thinking things through. And I already have a counter argument for that, she would also have had the time to think, "No Naruto would not buy my fake confession, maybe I should think of something else". Naruto did not buy her confession because she said she was over Sasuke, which is genuinely out of character for her, regardless of what she actually feels for Naruto himself. I repeat, He did not reject her confession, only the notion that she has renounced any thoughts of Sasuke. For your logic to apply that he rejected her feelings on the grounds that he knows she does not mean them, he'd have to be in on the fact that Sai told Sakura how he felt about her. Plus he seemed really surprised that that Sakura "confessed" to him before bringing up Sasuke means nothing to her anymore, not dismissive. Makes you wonder how things would have turned out if she didn't.

 

About the part where you said she would only perform in a group for Sasuke's sake. How do you know that? She would just as likely have done it herself even if it was for Sasuke's sake because she does not want to get anyone involved anymore. She wants to handle it alone, which shows that she is not thinking straight about Sasuke because she of all people knows how dangerous he is and that taking him one on one is suicide.

 

No she did not fail to prove to Naruto she loves him, which why, by the way would  it be of any relevance to your point if you say she did not genuinely feel love for him in the first place? And also weren't you the one ranting about how this was for Naruto's sake in the first place. You're talking in circles here. Sure she did not kill Sasuke out of the fact that she still holds him dear, but who would? So you're saying that she would be alright with killing Naruto then, because she does not love Naruto romantically. No? Than why are you insisting that she hesitated to kill Sasuke out of romantic feelings? the feelings have to be romantic to hesitate killing someone?

 

It's funny you should mention "simple love" in the next point. Right. "SIMPLE LOVE". Ring a bell? Sakura had this so called simple love for Sasuke in the first place. She liked him for being the cool guy who was good at everything. She did not necessarily connect to him on a deep level and he for sure always shuts her out when it comes to talking about himself. And you say that inspiration, encouragement, and compassion,are not things one looks for in a partner or finds lovable?

 

You want to bring up the fact that Sakura did not confess to get together with Naruto? Correct. What was she doing there? She was supposed to be telling Naruto of Sasuke and the plan to assassinate him for avoid political, and personal conflict. So what was the point of the confession? This is where I say to tell Naruto her feelings which she does mean, but was a poor time to confess, and you say that, Nope, she did it out of pity for him because she cannot return his feelings for him but it is the best solution she could think of. But it's for sure not because she wants to be with him, since her Sasuke-kun needed to be offed. If that was the reason, I don't see why she could not have confessed to Lee, or someone else. Would it have made sense? Nope, but this is on the ground that she could not be with her love so she needs a replacement, so by that logic any guy should do. So in that sense she did not need to confess to Naruto,especially if she did not mean it. You confess to someone to tell them you you feel, whether or not that extends to expecting to hook up is up to the person.

 

And Sakura is not confessing to Naruto but is realizing his actions from her point of view. Right, and she said he was a wonderful person who proved her initial impressions of him wrong. That he is some one who inspires her to work harder, comforts her when she's upset, sees her as an equal, and tries to make her happy. Again, Not lovable. I get it now. Really. And she goes through the same thing for him, because she's only his friend. Whereas Sasuke Puts her down, and tells her to mind her own business. He may protect her but would never open up to anyone but his blood relatives. However, If Kishi did not want to make it a confession he would not have it a confession. When the Va said that Sakura was using Naruto's feelings for her, He would more or less agree, wouldn't you think?          


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Posted 09 March 2014 - 01:30 AM

Yeah. I never believed in this either. If the author says it is meant to be read a certain way, then you have to read it that way...no exceptions.

 

I believe that trope is called the word of God http://tvtropes.org/.../Main/WordOfGod



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Posted 09 March 2014 - 02:29 AM

In hindsight, no matter how the confession happened there are a few obvious things we can conclude from it:

 

Sakura ended up gaining a new drive in helping naruto, more so then the time before

Naruto still loves Sakura

Despite the rough bumps at first, this didn't change their relationship in the worst as many thought

With stuff like Narutos "death" screentime of sakura vowing not to let naruto die so his dream can become true, thats potentially the start of a bigger movement.



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Posted 09 March 2014 - 06:00 AM

@pepsi I know. I also have the same thought just like u do about this fake confession..about sakura, she does actually love naruto but not fully enough...cause like everyone else, as the bench scene need to be brought back,well, up to kishi..whether he wants to or not..for naruto, sakura need to convince him more if shes truly in love with him cause right now, naruto plays the good guy that let her dream girl to be with another man that she love but in reality, the girl already realizes that the good guy is actually the one that she loved all along.

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Posted 09 March 2014 - 06:08 AM

To me, the fake confession is a transition phase; it’s there to illustrate the transition of Sakura’s feelings. If you observe well enough the situation of her feelings, it has 3 phases:

 

1) Her growing feelings for Naruto (from the beginning to the fake confession)
2) The fake confession (transition)
3) Her decreasing feelings for Sasuke (from the fake confession until now)

 

Sakura hates Naruto at the beginning of the story and is in love with Sasuke. But as the time passes, her feelings for Naruto are changing They are growing to the point that at the end of part 1, she’s already considering him as the dearest friend she have (aka Promise of a Lifetime), so her feelings for him are already very strong, not yet love, but on the road to become it.

Her feelings are becoming feelings of love since the beginning of part 2 (The first meeting, Sai’s comment, Yamato’s comment, the feeding scene, the Hug scene etc...) And we can say that after the hug scene, if there wasn’t any Sasuke and if we didn’t know the follow up, we could say that her feelings are at the peak, they couldn’t have been a more blatant hint than a hug as it was presented. So yeah, we can say that the growth of her feelings for Naruto is almost done. All we needed was a confession of her feelings, to show the extent of her emotional growth.

 

That’s where her confession comes to play; it’s the transition between her growing feelings for Naruto and her decreasing feelings for Sasuke. Until this fake confession, there wasn’t any hint of decreasing feelings for Sasuke (except the shooting star scene, but it wasn’t very obvious).

During all that fake confession at the Iron Land, her feelings for both men are confronted. She says she loves Naruto, but her feelings for Sasuke prevents her from killing him, but then at the moment Naruto and Sasuke are charging each other, she’s shouted Naruto’s name. This whole passage, has one purpose, it’s to shows Sakura’s confused feelings.

 

And from that point, until now, there were numerous scenes, in which we could see Sakura’s feelings for Sasuke, described in a bad light (her not seeing Sasuke as the one she used to love, the love letter, the fake smile, etc...). Plus, she didn’t think about Sasuke once since he arrived at the battlefield, while she’s constantly worried about Naruto.

 

So yeah, to me the fake confession is there to show how far her feelings for Naruto have evolved and it’s a set up for her to drop her feelings for Sasuke.  


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Posted 09 March 2014 - 07:34 AM

 

Ladies and Gentleman.....I bring you...DEATH OF THE AUTHOR

 
 
"Just because you wrote it, what makes you think you have the slightest idea what it's about?"
 
Apparently to some, the Naruto fanbase knows more about the work than Kishimoto himself.

 

Are you implying... that fandom does not? Madness! Madess I tell you!  :chuckle:

 

I read that article a while ago, and I agree. It is crazy. "In this text the author meant..." "Wait, I am the author, and I KNOW what I meant. And that is not it!" "Do not be stupid! Whatever your intentions were is irrelevant in a discussion about what your intentions were. You meant what I tell you that you meant. And you have no said on it!"

 

Maybe it's the writer in me, but I have never fully agreed with the concept that reader interpretation trumps authorial intent.  Or maybe it's that I'm not arrogant enough to believe that I can find a different, superior, deeper, or more logical interpretation of events than the author.
 
The main issue I have with the trope article is this bit:  "Books are meant to be read, not written, and so the ways readers interpret them are more important and 'real' than the ways writers write them."  Yes, books are meant to be read, but they don't exist at all if they aren't written.  In my opinion that makes the assertion flawed out of the gate, and an attempt to provide entitlement to readers that supercedes the will of an author.  At best, the question of interpretive importance is a chicken-or-egg loop.
 
Reader interpretation certainly matters, and obviously affects reader experience.  But there are so many factors that contribute to interpretation -- bias, life experience, intelligence, education, reading comprehension, translation, etc. -- that the diversity and depth of reader interpretation will vary.
 
It reminds me of Sheldon and Stuart (on The Big Bang Theory) arguing about whether it's possible to be "more wrong."  Sheldon argued that wrong was an absolute state not subject to gradation, but Stuart disagreed, saying, "It's a little wrong to call a tomato a vegetable, it's a lot wrong to call it a suspension bridge."
 
That's the way I view reader interpretation.  Some may interpret that a tomato is a fruit, and be right.  Some may interpret it as a vegetable, and be right in most of the ways that probably count.  But what about readers who interpret it as a suspension bridge?  Are they just as right?
 
That's assuming, of course, that Kishimoto knows (or says explicitly) that a tomato is a fruit.  And that's the argument that bolsters Death of an Author -- the presumption that the author had no clue and no specific intentions, and even if they did it's a flaw in their writing if readers don't understand.
 
It would be one thing if Kishimoto had not specifically addressed Sakura's confession, and made a point of saying his intention was to write her as an honest and determined girl.  But he did.  He's essentially suggesting, "Read it again with my intentions in mind."
 
Readers can willfully exclude Kishimoto's comments, and continue to believe Sakura was lying and the confession was fake, but in my opinion doing so is to venture into "suspension bridge" territory.  
 
Sakura's confession can be completely honest while still being an over-simplification or misunderstanding of her own feelings.  The two things are not mutually exclusive.

 

 

I also agree with you. A reader may be free to find alternate interpretations... but not to tell what the text meant A when the author clearly said it was B.
 
It reminds me how Tolkien over and again stated there was NO hidden meaning or allegory in his books precisaly because he hated allegory -seeing it like a mean through which the writer tried to dominate the reader- and he prefered aplicability. Still readers have been trying finding allegories in his book since the fifties. American contraculture in the sixties insisted Sauron was an allegory for the USA Government drafting people for fighting in Vietnam, and pipe weed was marihuana -in spite of it being called tobacco a lot of times-. Another people told it was fascist propaganda. And do not get me started with the people claims Tolkien hated scientists.
 
Tolkien also wrote -in the "Laws and Customs of the Eldar [Elves]" essay- that in his world there are no differences between male and female elves. Male and female elves get married like equals and are free to pursue whatever interests they have. Generally, males and females are intested in different things, but in elven society there is no such thing as gender-proper tasks or jobs. Well, some persons have read this essay and claim that is sexist.
 
And then you have the people treating Tolkien fiction like white supremacy propaganda in spite of Tolkien made his thoughts in the subject of racism UMISTAKABLY clear (he called apartheid horrifying, he detested nazism and its racial "politics"... and when a German editor asked him if he was "arisch", his answer was so funny as awesome), and in his books racism literally is the Devils' tool to spread evil, hatred and distrust among people, and it is something horrible only leads to death, pain and genocide.
 
It also reminds me of Milton's Paradise Lost, and how people often interprets it disregarding what the author meant.
 
I will tell a funny story. Back in the seventies, when Mainger-Z (called Tranzor in USA) was aired in my country, right-winger media claimed it was leftist/socialist/communist propaganda, whereas left-winger media claimed it was fascist/capitalist/pro-American propaganda and the Big Bad -Dr. Hell- was identical to Karl Marx. The reality is Go Nagai wrote Mazinger-Z to entertaining himself and venting, since he was overworked and exhausted due to the amount of effort he put in writing and drawing Devilman. It was not propaganda for anything.

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Posted 09 March 2014 - 08:43 AM

I can't swallow down this "Sakura knew she didn't love Naruto, but said it any way". Even if she had good intentions, lying to him about something like that when she knows his feelings is not heroine-like. It wouldn't make him close to happy in the long run and really all it would do was hurt him; something that Sakura hates. There's no way she would be ignorant of this, she'd know that'd hurt him. So why bother doing it? Sakura did think she'd die against Sasuke, but it's not like her to tell Naruto she loves him when she knows she doesn't. It's too OCC for her, no matter how desperate or guilt-ridden she was.

 

What fits Sakura's character better (IMO) is she was still very confused over Naruto, but tried to force herself to snap out of that because of all the pressure. Sakura wants to love Naruto and she wants to let go of Sasuke, but she had no impacting moment that made her realize she loved Naruto and there's no way she could shut out her feelings for Sasuke that fast when she was crying over him in the Akatsuki not even a day ago. I'm not saying that her "being confused' on a love confession still makes it right, but I can't see her doing it unless she believed she might love him or can in the future. Still a step for NS, even if it doesn't confirm she  loves him.

 

I don't understand why it's so hard for fans to believe Sakura loves Naruto. Why? Because she loves Sasuke? You can love two people at once and her feelings on one is very negative. Even if you don't want to believe it, the direction of their relationship in the future at this rate is very clear. 540 I only partially get. Sakura thought of Sasuke and yes it looks like she still loves him, but that says nothing about what she feels for Naruto. For all we know, Sakura could've been thinking of Naruto when she said "There's someone else I-" and then Sasuke in 540 because not every guy she loves is a good guy. OR it could just as easily be that Sakura's still confused over Naruto so why would she think of him if she doesn't know she loves him? Both opinions have validation to them and could definitely be true.

 

Every since the Tenchi Bridge scene, I've never doubted Sakura is falling in love with Naruto. With all the meaningful moments between them, even at the start of Part II, is really that unfathomable to say she loves Naruto? Hell, Sakura fell in love with Sasuke over the course of somewhere between six or eight months. Three years with Naruto and it's suddenly illogical?  :zaru:


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Posted 09 March 2014 - 11:09 AM

Well, about your last statement about Sakura admitting she still loves Sasuke: you have to keep in mind that it was stated that Kishi was trying to portray an honest/realistic and STUBBORN girl.[/b] Even if we were to say she was honest about her feelings for Naruto, she could have been in denial about not caring for Sasuke at all (which she was). She needed to face him and realize, just as she was about to strike the killing blow, that she was being stubborn with her feelings for him.

"You have to keep in mind that it was stated that Kishi was trying to portray an honest/realistic and stubborn girl"
You should know that i posted several times that he was trying to portray doesnt mean she was saying the truth.

That's what Kishi meant, it was a reply that the VA commented saying Sakura was harsh towards Naruto, it was about her approach on the confession not the words she meant there.
Also the stubborn part is refering to the confession not towards the killing attempt the stubborn comes from the parts where she was claiming she loved Naruto "without realizing" aka making a face that there was nothing wrong that was normal.
She even give the expression she wasnt understanding why Naruto wasnt accepting her confession.
In a way she looked like an inocent lovey-dovey girl who was making a confession to the guy she loves that's the persona Sakura was doing during that scene.
 

If you go back to the chapter, you would realize that Yamato isn't reacting to her I love you or to her expressing her feelings to Naruto. The panel, interestingly enough, comes right after the one where Sakura asks Naruto to stop chasing Sasuke. That would be strange, even to Yamato, as before she herself was chasing him. You see, Sakura's confession just doesn't deal with her feelings to just Naruto. It also, separately, deals with her feelings towards Sasuke. So, with this interpretation, despite her feelings for Naruto being true it's strange she would want Naruto to give up on Sasuke as well. Those two things don't have to be connected but yet she does so during her confession. That raises questions

Everyone looked like there was something wrong on the scene while Sakura was acting like an stubborn girl, like nothing happened and she was just doing an honest confession but that wasnt true.
Agree to Disagree.
 

I can't swallow down this "Sakura knew she didn't love Naruto, but said it any way". Even if she had good intentions, lying to him about something like that when she knows his feelings is not heroine-like. It wouldn't make him close to happy in the long run and really all it would do was hurt him; something that Sakura hates. There's no way she would be ignorant of this, she'd know that'd hurt him. So why bother doing it? Sakura did think she'd die against Sasuke, but it's not like her to tell Naruto she loves him when she knows she doesn't. It's too OCC for her, no matter how desperate or guilt-ridden she was.

I understand but because people look on Sakura's perspective.
The only guy who would win something was Naruto.
She did it because it was the best scenario for Naruto theorically, he would lose Sasuke but would win the girl he loved.
She was doing a sacrifice in a way since she knew it would fail, because she loved Sasuke and Naruto was aware of it.
THe only thing she could do was to kill Sasuke by herself and take the blame for it in the hopes of making Naruto hate her.
 

I disagree, but I think I'm gonna leave it at that as it only shows certain images so it's pretty much open to interpretation.

You made it look like those are random pics.
Those detailed specific scenes with the same theme, Sakura's crush on Sasuke during her childhood the memories of the past Sasuke where she fell in love and she was happy.
Now as for why she could not do it it's related to love but not sure the secondary reason, it's because she believed he still existed or hope and etc... i'm not sure.

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Posted 09 March 2014 - 11:56 AM

On the contrary my friend, I see nothing "new about your argument". and I also have counters of my own to them. 
 
for instance you said she was "trying to return Naruto's feeling's out of obligation to him and not out of genuine love." Again to do that she would have to reason out why she would say that, and that involves planning and thinking things through. And I already have a counter argument for that, she would also have had the time to think, "No Naruto would not buy my fake confession, maybe I should think of something else".

Plan B kill Sasuke, as for the reason why she made the confession my counter argument is that for the same reason why Naruto went to talk with the raikage despite being useless.
 

Naruto did not buy her confession because she said she was over Sasuke, which is genuinely out of character for her, regardless of what she actually feels for Naruto himself. I repeat, He did not reject her confession, only the notion that she has renounced any thoughts of Sasuke.

He did not rejected her because she hasnt made any proposition just like Naruto hasnt rejected Hinata's confession either.
Naruto did not buy because of two things, the first you said it and the second he would be the second choice because she pretty much said, i dont care about Sasuke anymore i cant love a criminal and i finally realized who you really are thus choosing Naruto.
Her confession didnt sounded she was being honest to Naruto but rather her trying to convince herself that she can return Naruto's feelings and be happy with that because he always treated her the way she deserved.
 

For your logic to apply that he rejected her feelings on the grounds that he knows she does not mean them, he'd have to be in on the fact that Sai told Sakura how he felt about her. Plus he seemed really surprised that that Sakura "confessed" to him before bringing up Sasuke means nothing to her anymore, not dismissive. Makes you wonder how things would have turned out if she didn't.

I never said he rejected her feelings i just said it wasnt a love confession because she wasnt doing it out of love but rather to protect and make Naruto happy.
about the last part the dilemna is that it's impossible because after the love you he asked why she did changed, he was suspicious of her and she certainly would have to reply and talk about Sasuke it could not be avoived, he witnessed her crying on the same day by morning because of Sasuke.
The fact is that Naruto witnessed so many things from Sakura towards Sasuke that a simply love you is not enough.
 

About the part where you said she would only perform in a group for Sasuke's sake. How do you know that? She would just as likely have done it herself even if it was for Sasuke's sake because she does not want to get anyone involved anymore. She wants to handle it alone, which shows that she is not thinking straight about Sasuke because she of all people knows how dangerous he is and that taking him one on one is suicide.

Because i dont see sense if she doesnt want to take the blame for his death to do it alone.
Why she would do it alone?
That's the question, my arguments is that she wanted to take the blame of his death not wanting Naruto's friends and her friends to take the blame aswell, she wanted Naruto to hate her in a way like Sai described but those purposes are unknown.
 

No she did not fail to prove to Naruto she loves him, which why, by the way would  it be of any relevance to your point if you say she did not genuinely feel love for him in the first place? And also weren't you the one ranting about how this was for Naruto's sake in the first place. You're talking in circles here. Sure she did not kill Sasuke out of the fact that she still holds him dear, but who would? So you're saying that she would be alright with killing Naruto then, because she does not love Naruto romantically. No? Than why are you insisting that she hesitated to kill Sasuke out of romantic feelings? the feelings have to be romantic to hesitate killing someone?

Yes, if she did that for Naruto's sake doesnt imply that she loves him romantically, she cares deeply about Naruto because he helped her and was at her side giving encouragement when she most needed however she felt guilty because Sai tells her that she's brining pain to Naruto on the same level Sasuke does to him.
She felt like an useless girl who only did mistakes and wanted to correct it, just by the motivations alone nullify any interaction during that confession, it only showed to me that Naruto is halfway of winning her heart, because she now knows he loves her and she has a choice that Sasuke inst the only potential love partner.
On actual chapters it gives the impression she wants to be with Naruto regardless her feelings for Sasuke which are in my opinion fading because she matured in terms of her own feelings(540) and wants to be with a guy that treats her the way she deserves.

Because on her flasbacks is show her crush on Sasuke, her happily smiling towards the guy who Sasuke was, and even the acknowlegment of the "thank you" after her confession towards him.
My guess is that she hesitated about killing Sasuke because of those feelings of love otherwise would have been shown team 7 panels.
 

It's funny you should mention "simple love" in the next point. Right. "SIMPLE LOVE". Ring a bell? Sakura had this so called simple love for Sasuke in the first place. She liked him for being the cool guy who was good at everything. She did not necessarily connect to him on a deep level and he for sure always shuts her out when it comes to talking about himself. And you say that inspiration, encouragement, and compassion,are not things one looks for in a partner or finds lovable?

I think that on Sakura's case it wasnt enough, acknowledgement is something that lacks on Naruto and Sakura relationship.
 About inspiration and encouragement is incomplete on this part, he still didnt corrected that Sakura view about her being useless and doing little things to her.
However it could have been corrected by herself.
Anyway this part depends on the author.
 

You want to bring up the fact that Sakura did not confess to get together with Naruto? Correct. What was she doing there? She was supposed to be telling Naruto of Sasuke and the plan to assassinate him for avoid political, and personal conflict.

That's the right thing to do, but it was Gaara who made Naruto face reality.
Sakura came with the confession which the rest i'll adress down there.
 

So what was the point of the confession? This is where I say to tell Naruto her feelings which she does mean, but was a poor time to confess, and you say that, Nope, she did it out of pity for him because she cannot return his feelings for him but it is the best solution she could think of. But it's for sure not because she wants to be with him, since her Sasuke-kun needed to be offed. If that was the reason, I don't see why she could not have confessed to Lee, or someone else.

First of all.
It was nothing to do with poor time to confess, but the reasons and motivations, the feeling of guilty, of being useless, the mistake thing and Sai telling her that Naruto loves her.
Also "Why she could not have confessed to Lee, or someome else"
- Because she wanst doing that for her she was doing that for Naruto, with the feelings of guilty and that she only bought up Pain to Naruto.
She did the confession to correct this, to make him happy and lessen his burden in a way to correct her mistakes.
She wasnt looking for consolation.
 

Would it have made sense? Nope, but this is on the ground that she could not be with her love so she needs a replacement, so by that logic any guy should do. So in that sense she did not need to confess to Naruto,especially if she did not mean it. You confess to someone to tell them you you feel, whether or not that extends to expecting to hook up is up to the person.

It looked like a replacement, her confession when she started talking about Sasuke looked in that way and she was acting like a stubborn girl like it wasnt a big deal and making Naruto look like he was being harsh with her because she's was acting like girl who was making a confession and being honest.

 

And Sakura is not confessing to Naruto but is realizing his actions from her point of view. Right, and she said he was a wonderful person who proved her initial impressions of him wrong. That he is some one who inspires her to work harder, comforts her when she's upset, sees her as an equal, and tries to make her happy. Again, Not lovable.

The problem is that it inst about being lovable or not is that despite all that she wasnt in love with Naruto however it was enough reasons of why she chose to be with Naruto despite having feelings for another guy.
In my opinion she still needed to confront Sasuke and on the Naruto and Sakura relationship Naruto still need to acknowledge Sakura.
Sakura on the current chapters, pratically took the decision to be with him despite having feelings for Sasuke but those are open to be dropped and on my point of view if Naruto acknowledges her she will fall in love with him.
Because their relationship mirrors Minato and Kushina and it happened when Minato acknowledged her and as mere coincidence acknowledgement is also something that lacks on this relationship.
 

I get it now. Really. And she goes through the same thing for him, because she's only his friend. Whereas Sasuke Puts her down, and tells her to mind her own business. He may protect her but would never open up to anyone but his blood relatives. However, If Kishi did not want to make it a confession he would not have it a confession. When the Va said that Sakura was using Naruto's feelings for her, He would more or less agree, wouldn't you think?

That wanst what the VA expressed, she said that Sakura was being harsh with Naruto and that she was using his feelings for her own sake which is incorrect because she wasnt being harsh with Naruto, she used his feelings however it wasnt for her sake but for Naruto.
The problem is that Kishi put Sakura on an heroine situation where she was put on two scenarios doing a sacrifice, on the first she was willing to drop her feelings for Sasuke for Naruto's happiness on the same way why Naruto did the POAL for her sake and on the second she tried to kill Sasuke and made Naruto hate her so he would free Naruto from the two persons who bought pain to him(from her perspective).
But no, the VA and the opposite fandom interpreted that she was being a deceitfull b*tch who was using Naruto for her own benefit.

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Posted 09 March 2014 - 09:13 PM

"You have to keep in mind that it was stated that Kishi was trying to portray an honest/realistic and stubborn girl"
You should know that i posted several times that he was trying to portray doesnt mean she was saying the truth.

That's what Kishi meant, it was a reply that the VA commented saying Sakura was harsh towards Naruto, it was about her approach on the confession not the words she meant there.
Also the stubborn part is refering to the confession not towards the killing attempt the stubborn comes from the parts where she was claiming she loved Naruto "without realizing" aka making a face that there was nothing wrong that was normal.
She even give the expression she wasnt understanding why Naruto wasnt accepting her confession.
In a way she looked like an inocent lovey-dovey girl who was making a confession to the guy she loves that's the persona Sakura was doing during that scene.
 
Everyone looked like there was something wrong on the scene while Sakura was acting like an stubborn girl, like nothing happened and she was just doing an honest confession but that wasnt true.
Agree to Disagree.
 
You made it look like those are random pics.
Those detailed specific scenes with the same theme, Sakura's crush on Sasuke during her childhood the memories of the past Sasuke where she fell in love and she was happy.
Now as for why she could not do it it's related to love but not sure the secondary reason, it's because she believed he still existed or hope and etc... i'm not sure.

I wasn't really saying the stubborn part applied to the killing necessarily, and if my point came across that way then I apologize. What I meant was to apply it to her denial of her feelings for Sasuke and that she still cares for him, as Naruto kept thinking as she confessed. But really, where kishi's words applies to when it comes to the confession is unknown to us (i.e we don't know if he meant Sakura's feelings towards Naruto or Sakura's feelings towards Sasuke, as all he was clearing up is her motivation during it). 

 

Yes agree to disagree, considering I just saw it as everyone being surprised, and the only time they reacted differently (confused and wanting to know what was going on) was when she brought Sasuke into it (especially after asking Naruto to give up on chasing him). But I see there's no way of convincing you of this so moving on. 

 

*sigh*  :ermm:  I never said they were random pictures. I just said that you can interpret their meaning in different ways. For example, they can all represent what Sasuke once meant to Sakura (acting as an obstacle to killing him and getting it over with). 

 

She once loved the guy (a young Sakura looking at a young Sasuke before they became a team), once treasured him as a teammate (team 7 photo), wanted to fight to get him back after he left because she'd loved him so much then. So how could she just give up on him now after the past that they had once meant something to her and still does? How could she give up and just kill him after trying to hard to get him back in the first place? That's one interpretation. Not necessarily romantic, but just showing a past where she did have that kind of feeling towards him. 


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Posted 09 March 2014 - 09:29 PM

I wasn't really saying the stubborn part applied to the killing necessarily, and if my point came across that way then I apologize. What I meant was to apply it to her denial of her feelings for Sasuke and that she still cares for him, as Naruto kept thinking as she confessed. But really, where kishi's words applies to when it comes to the confession is unknown to us (i.e we don't know if he meant Sakura's feelings towards Naruto or Sakura's feelings towards Sasuke, as all he was clearing up is her motivation during it).

But that's not being stubborn, just dont get it.
She wasnt in denial whatesover, it's just her approach that was stubborn the way she talked to Naruto and how she acted on the whole scene it was stubborn she was acting like someome who went there just to confession to Naruto out of love when in fact she was doing that for other reasons.
And her stubborn approach towards Naruto made Naruto look like a mean guy and even being harsh with her.
It's just that this interpretation is dont get it.
I saw a lot of people keep brining up the stubborn aspect without explaining why it's stubborn i just dont get it.
I dont see how her denial if it existed was in a way stubborn.

 

Yes agree to disagree, considering I just saw it as everyone being surprised, and the only time they reacted differently (confused and wanting to know what was going on) was when she brought Sasuke into it (especially after asking Naruto to give up on chasing him). But I see there's no way of convincing you of this so moving on.

that's another question i've make, because everyone is surprised but how this exactly raised doubts about her confession.
She caught off everyone off guard due to the fact basically everyone knew that she loved Sasuke.
Naruto as an example got surprised and then he changed his face to someome who's not accepting that because of his own motives.
There's no way to convince me like you said i'm simply not getting it, i'm not understanding what you're tyring to mean on this whole scene.
She bought up Sasuke because it was the goal she wanted to achieve on the confession made Naruto drop it but people keep bringing up other aspects like, "what if she didnt talked about Sasuke" or what if.
In fact there's no what if, her confession had an objective on which the most important aspect was to keep Naruto safe and stop chasing Sasuke how this can be a genuine confession?, how this is valid to prove that Sakura has romantic feelings for Naruto?
That's what i dont get.
We are discussing this because OP said it was a Fake confession and he's not wrong but other people jumped to say it was ambiguous like it destroy the fact it was a fake confession when it doesnt.
 

*sigh*  :ermm:  I never said they were random pictures. I just said that you can interpret their meaning in different ways. For example, they can all represent what Sasuke once meant to Sakura (acting as an obstacle to killing him and getting it over with).

You never said that, i just said that it give the impression it were random pictures.
 

She once loved the guy (a young Sakura looking at a young Sasuke before they became a team), once treasured him as a teammate (team 7 photo)

You missed two pictures, the part where he leaves the village and the other main focus was his acknowledgement with the "thank you" recognized her devotion towards him.
 

, wanted to fight to get him back after he left because she'd loved him so much then. So how could she just give up on him now after the past that they had once meant something to her and still does? How could she give up and just kill him after trying to hard to get him back in the first place? That's one interpretation. Not necessarily romantic, but just showing a past where she did have that kind of feeling towards him.

Further chapters during Naruto's speech towards Sasuke, she already give up on Sasuke it was Naruto who made her have faith again, she didnt give up on killing Sasuke because she didnt wanted to give up on him but rather because she loved him and she could not, she hesitated, she thought she was capable of doing it but in the end she hesitated because of her feelings. (That's important which is why i wrote it two times).

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Posted 10 March 2014 - 12:49 AM

I reiterate....

 

Interviewer: "Because of this, she acted quite haughty towards that guy. She used Naruto’s love for her and told him she loved him."

Kishimoto: "On the contrary…. I felt like depicting an honest girl, with a surprisingly stubborn impression.

And Kishimoto also comments:

"So... she became such a character, but... well... from here on, maybe I should draw her showing a bit more spirit.
I figured I had placed her in a heroin-like situation
But from the readers I was told harshly that she wasn't heroin-ish at all
Perhaps I should show depict her a bit more like a heroin
Because you say 'Hinata Hinata,' I say 'She's not Hinata'"

 

The interviewer specifically says "SHE USED NARUTO'S LOVE FOR HER AND TOLD HIM SHE LOVED HIM."

Kishimoto replies to that VERY COMMENT: "On the contrary…. I felt like depicting an honest girl, with a surprisingly stubborn impression.

There is no way else you can interpret it and if you do, then you are mistaken. I am sorry, but there is a difference between opinions and people too stupid to really not take what the author says as the truth. Kishimoto thought he depicted an honest girl who is in love with Naruto and cares for him, but at the same time is stubborn to really admit that she has let go of Sasuke. If the author says that is how the scene is supposed to be played out, then I will keep reading that scene with Kishimoto's words in my head.

The fact that Naruto didn't believe her seems to be the thing that throws everyone off and they tend to believe everything Naruto says. Why? What if Naruto was wrong or he pushed her away? You never thought of this possible outcome that maybe Naruto was the one being stupid here, not Sakura?

Sakura said she KNEW what Naruto's reaction was going to be. She said that she knew that no matter what she said, Naruto would never listen to her. So why confess if you already knew he wouldn't accept it? Because it wasn't about bringing Naruto back or getting him to stop perusing Sasuke. She knew that he would never stop and it would ruin his life. The true goal was to make her final peace with Naruto. To me, that's says that her confession was even more real because she didn't want to die or do these horrible things without telling Naruto the truth. She loves him. She loves him a lot, but she also knows that Naruto is just as stubborn when it comes to Sasuke and she wanted to end the suffering both boys are going through. Although, I could argue Sasuke's "suffering," but that is a different story. What is more heroic than giving up everything for someone you love? And I mean everything. Your life, your past, your future and everything you loved and cared about. Itachi did it.

Could Kishimoto have written the scene differently? Perhaps, but when you publish something, you cannot go back and fix it unless you make changes to it in the printing stage of the volume, but by then the damage was done. Even if he changed it now I bet you, Dark, you still wouldn't accept it because you are also stubborn like that. There was no way for him to perceive the reaction the fans had on that chapter prior to release.

I'm sorry, Dark. You can spit 540 at me all day, but all I see is Sakura truly loving Naruto, wanting to save him, and 540 being this red herring to trick gullible people to assume something that isn't. As a writer myself, I know ways that can be used to fool your audience into one thing and throw them off a trail.

 

If Kishi says she was being honest, then she was being honest.

 

End of discussion.





 


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There is no way else you can interpret it and if you do, then you are mistaken. I am sorry, but there is a difference between opinions and people too stupid to really not take what the author says at the truth. Kishimoto thought he depicted an honest girl who is in love with Naruto and cares for him, but at the same time is stubborn to really admit that she has let go of Sasuke. If the authors says that is how the scene is supposed to be played out, then I will keep reading that scene with Kishomoto's words in my head.

 

I completely agree.

 

You know, Akane Kasuga -secondary character of manga/anime show Kimagure Orange Road- is completely obsessed with female lead Madoka Ayukawa. Obsessed like in "she glued a giant Madoka's picture on her bedroom's ceiling" obsessed. Many fans thought she was lesbian. Her creator -Izumi Matsumoto- said she was only a teen was searching a role model, and felt a very strong heroine worship towards Madoka. I still say she seemed being in love/infatuated with Madoka in those scenes, but if the creator told she was not, then I am not going to argue against that.
 
(By the way, if you are searching for a comedic high school romance manga, I recomend Kimagure Orange Road. It is real good!)
 

 

 

Could have Kishimoto written the scene differently? Perhaps, but when you publish something, you cannot go back and fix it unless you make changes it in the printing stage, but by then the damage was done. Even if he changed it now I bet you, Dark, you still wouldn't accept it because you are also stubborn like that. There was no way for him to perceive the reaction the fans had on that chapter.

 

Very true. What is done is done, and sometimes you can not go back to it. And sometimes it tarnishes or damages a character forever.
 
In the early eighties, American comic-book writer Jim Shooter wrote a story where Hank Pym (a. k. a. Ant Man/Giant Man/Goliath/Yellow Wasp... take your pick), one of The Avengers, was going through a mental breakdown.
 
In that story (issue 213, I think), there is a scene in which Hank is supposed to have accidentally struck Jan while throwing his hands up in despair and frustration—making a sort of “get away from me” gesture while not looking at her.  Bob Hall, who had been taught by John Buscema to always go for the most extreme action, turned that into a right cross!  There was no time to have it redrawn, which, to this day has caused the tragic story of Hank Pym to be known as the “wife-beater” story.
 
 
Another history radically changed due to a misunderstanding among members of the creative team was X-Men's Dark Phoenix Saga. The editor, writer and artist had agreed what the end was going to be. However, the artist drew a character "accidentally" busting a planet, something no one had mentioned during the planning meetings. The editor only saw that after the number was already printed, and he insisted they should alter the ending since the previous one no longer made sense.
 
Yes, maybe Kishimoto should have written that scene differently to reflect his intentions more accurately. But what could he make after the chapter was already printed? He had no way to know many fans would misunderstand his intent. The only action he could take was making it clear in an interview... that he did.

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Posted 11 March 2014 - 03:33 PM

First, I think there were several points to this scene with two of them not even related to the romantic subplot.

(1) Define Naruto's priorities. It does this for both Sakura and the audience. It makes it unmistakably clear what is driving him and what it is not. Prior to this, it was not unreasonable to conclude that it was still a strong motivating factor and it had not been touched on since Part 1. Kishimoto's style has been that the passage of time (in chapter numbers) does not, by itself, indicate any change or diminishing of such things. So this scene clarifies where it stands compared to his other motivations.

(2) Dissent within the Ranks: Up until the assualt on Bee, Konoha had been awfully accommodating to Naruto's desires, especially as it pertained to the overall objective (saving v. killing). This scene effectively resolves what had been building since the Bee attack. It's basically the response, such as it is, to complaints about their rather (unified) accepting behavior.

Since NS is a subplot to the overall plot, I would regard these two as more important that what it does to the romantic subplot, but I'll address that to.

As to the interview, I am not going to question what he says, only to note the answer suggests as if the ideas (between the question and answer) are mutually exclusive when they are not. Whether she loves him or not is irrelevant to the question as to whether she was using his feelings. She was doing exactly that. He can protest all he wants, but that is what was put on the page. The remainder of the statement about the type of person he was portraying is not inconsistent with her using his feeling.

Even if she loves him to the exclusion of Sasuke, she is still doing that. She uses his feeling to obtain a specific result aside from reciprocation (to abandon his current objective), it's not a straight confession given for it's own sake. I suppose implicit in the interviewer's question was that she didn't mean it, but my response remains...the sincerity of her feelings and Sakura using them are not mutually exclusive or dependent upon each other in anyway. If he didn't mean to suggest she was using them, the he screwed up because that is precisely what she did.

As I've said before, I really don't fault either. I understand why she chose to do it, and I also understand why it made him mad.
 

There is no way else you can interpret it and if you do, then you are mistaken. I am sorry, but there is a difference between opinions and people too stupid to really not take what the author says at the truth. Kishimoto thought he depicted an honest girl who is in love with Naruto and cares for him, but at the same time is stubborn to really admit that she has let go of Sasuke. If the authors says that is how the scene is supposed to be played out, then I will keep reading that scene with Kishomoto's words in my head.


I agree with one minor exception. I think she is being stubborn about letting go of Sasuke, but for me, the difference between what you and I say is splitting hairs, so I'm not going to debate over it. I don't think she was lying, but I don't think Naruto's assessment was wrong either. I don't believe Kishimoto was trying to portrayed Naruto's reaction as mistaken or incorrect. So then what was she lying to herself about? SS fans have claims that it's her feelings for Naruto, but, given what Kishimoto has said, that's not it. I believe that it was that she was over Sasuke. But this, like the other part, is being treated as mutually exclusive when it's not.

This reading, and even what you said, is entirely in line with 540, so I would disagree with you that it's a red herring. All that can be said the scene itself, is there something there for Sasuke, whatever it is, and she still has not let go. After that, anything else is speculation. It's in a negative light....but negative about what? With more insight into her thoughts, I don't know how any can tell. I see nothing inconsistent about that scene and the confession or anything that followed.

It's not as if she has sat and said....who do I love? It's a lot more fluid than that with much of it just kind of happening rather than her just deciding I love "that guy.". My position is and has been she has feelings (of some nature) for both and I'm content leaving it at that until it gets addressed more directly. I look at what I see, I don't feel I have enough to pin down any of it specifically (I'm not sure she could if pressed right now), and I think that is the design at this point.

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Posted 11 March 2014 - 03:45 PM

@Nate River.
I Agree ,despite i disagree with two parts.

First the lying part : it's just that i feel it's not consistent, i think she loves Naruto but not on the same way she loves Sasuke romantically.
It opens the door to develop those feelings since Sasuke is giving reasons for her to drop it but Kishi never give a scene where she does fall in love, only realizing what Naruto done to her, she already realized that was the motivation for her to be strong and she began to accept him and cares about him deeply.
Then she discovered that Naruto loved her, due to her feelings of guilty and that "love" she decided to return Naruto's feelings because with those are enough to start a relationship but however she wasnt "in love" with Naruto.
In a way it wasnt right.
And yes i agree no matter what kind of point of view a person does she used Naruto's feelings.

About the Stubborn part : I think she was stubborn in various occasions on that scene not only about Sasuke's love but also when she tried to convince naruto that she loved him even the hug part, and also she knew that just confessing to him wasnt enough when she have done far more things than it towards Sasuke and Naruto have witnessed it, even the POAL was more strong than that confession.
 

Sakura said she KNEW what Naruto's reaction was going to be. She said that she knew that no matter what she said, Naruto would never listen to her. So why confess if you already knew he wouldn't accept it? Because it wasn't about bringing Naruto back or getting him to stop perusing Sasuke. She knew that he would never stop and it would ruin his life.

I can simply reply with: why Naruto went to ask the raikage to forgive Sasuke if he knew it was useless?
she wanted to do it because she wanted to give a chance to that plan just like Naruto did with his own.

 

If Kishi says she was being honest, then she was being honest.
 
End of discussion.

that's your interpretation not a fact.
I expressed many times, that depicting an honest girl doesnt mean she was being honest.
If you accept that she was being honest you would have to accept that when she said she didnt loved Sasuke anymore was true when the summit proves you wrong.
you're out of arguments.


 

The interviewer specifically says "SHE USED NARUTO'S LOVE FOR HER AND TOLD HIM SHE LOVED HIM."

Kishimoto replies to that VERY COMMENT: "On the contrary…. I felt like depicting an honest girl, with a surprisingly stubborn impression.

You manipulated the interview, you omitted the part where she says that Sakura was being harsh with Naruto.
The real part is this

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There is no way else you can interpret it and if you do, then you are mistaken. I am sorry, but there is a difference between opinions and people too stupid to really not take what the author says as the truth. Kishimoto thought he depicted an honest girl who is in love with Naruto and cares for him, but at the same time is stubborn to really admit that she has let go of Sasuke. If the author says that is how the scene is supposed to be played out, then I will keep reading that scene with Kishimoto's words in my head.

You're taking your interpretation as a fact once again.
I dont believe on your's.
Because he implies that she loves Sasuke while says that she cares about Naruto and then based on your interpretation he says that she was being honest.
The only way where it makes sense to me is that his response was towards Sakura's behavior, she wasnt being haughty towards Naruto neither being selfish about wanting to use Naruto's feelings for her own benefit despite on reality she used Naruto's feelings but not for her benefit.
But to make Naruto stop chasing Sasuke and for his safety.

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Posted 11 March 2014 - 05:07 PM

The fake confession is there to validate the SS pairing as a real obstacle, that it's true love and not some shallow crush.

If Sakura's love for Sasuke was silly then what would that say of Sakura, who can't forget Sasuke no matter how much time has passed or how much kitten he has done to her, or what would that say of Naruto, who can't win her affections even though they're so rooted on so little.

One thing that always bothered me was that Sasuke didn't reciprocate Sakura. It makes Naruto look like second choice because Sakura couldn't have him. I'd like Sakura's choice to be independent of such things. Yeah, SS was real love, and yeah, Sasuke loves her too, however Sakura ends up with Naruto because it's with him that she can find true happiness.

If there's any conclusion on the moment is that i think despite Sakura loving Sasuke she knows that he's not worth it.


I think that's what her final decision will be about.

Edited by GoogleIsMyFriend, 11 March 2014 - 05:15 PM.


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Posted 27 March 2014 - 04:48 PM

Okay Darkrest you say she was lying, Kishimoto said she was been honest. So am I going to believe? The author of the manga or you lol?

Kishimoto can make a live broadcast telling the entire she was been honest in her confession and STILL the western fandom wouldn't believe him. He can tell the entire world Sakura has moved on from Sasuke and is now is in love with Naruto and STILL they wouldn't believe him. Apparently the fandom knows more about the manga than the mangaka himself.


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Posted 27 March 2014 - 05:03 PM

One of the interviewers: “Sakura had always been worried about Naruto, but her actions towards Naruto seem to have a different feel from before, she seems very anxious about Naruto…How does she feel about Sasuke-kun?”

Kishimoto: “As for Sakura… Sasuke… what about Sasuke? Naruto is close and she worries about Naruto as well, but as expected, she [loves or loved] Sasuke.

Interviewer: "Because of this, she acted quite haughty towards that guy. She used Naruto’s love for her and told him she loved him."

Kishimoto: "On the contrary…. I felt like depicting an honest girl, with a surprisingly stubborn impression.

And Kishimoto also comments:

"So... she became such a character, but... well... from here on, maybe I should draw her showing a bit more spirit.
I figured I had placed her in a heroin-like situation
But from the readers I was told harshly that she wasn't heroin-ish at all
Perhaps I should show depict her a bit more like a heroin
Because you say 'Hinata Hinata,' I say 'She's not Hinata'"



Every time someone says Sakura's confession was fake or that she lied to Naruto or used him, I bring up this interview. This interview where they straight up ask Kishimoto and he says that she was being an "honest, but stubborn girl." He even laments that he was told by the fans that wasn't what they thought and he thought he depicted her true. If Kishimoto said she was being honest, then the confession was not fake. There really should be no more arguing at this point in time.

 

Is there an explicit, objective, reliable, verifiable, irrefutable online source for this? If so, please, pleeeease share it! I would very much like it for future reference so I can actually use it as evidence if need be.


Edited by zacrathedemon5, 27 March 2014 - 05:07 PM.

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Posted 27 March 2014 - 07:32 PM

The Kishi interview is what makes this so confusing

He says she's being honest that she loves Naruto when he goes out of his way to make the point across that the confession was fake, and later reinforced with 540 and 632. To add to the confusion she apparently is still confident enough in making her relationship with Sauce work that she immediately turns someone down for it.

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Posted 27 March 2014 - 07:45 PM

The Kishi interview is what makes this so confusing

He says she's being honest that she loves Naruto when he goes out of his way to make the point across that the confession was fake, and later reinforced with 540 and 632. To add to the confusion she apparently is still confident enough in making her relationship with Sauce work that she immediately turns someone down for it.

 

Not necessarily. The memory of Sasuke (with a menacing background and a frown on her face, keep in mind) is triggered when the fodder nin implies that whoever she likes is bound to be a great person. Sasuke at that point did not turn out to be a great person whatsoever. That's the connection she made in her head. There's no hope for a relationship there. Just because she may still have some lingering feelings for Sasuke does not mean she is happy about them, or wants to be with him after what he's done, what he's turned into.

 

The confession wasn't fake. She does have feelings for Naruto. The statement that she no longer cared about Sasuke, that is what was being stretched. That's what Naruto called her out on.


Edited by zacrathedemon5, 27 March 2014 - 07:47 PM.

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