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[dejavu]

Questions in my head right now:

1. What did Rin actually said to Minato?

MangaPanda and MangaStream has a different translation to it again.. although i'm leaning more to MangaPanda on this since cutting that sentence off (or keeping it vague until later on to be completed) is more "fitting" than actually saying "I just know how to handle them"

2. What will happen after Naruto wakes up? Will he really wake up this time? is that method of giving the bijuu back to him would work?

what if won't? although that's unlikely that it will not work but it can still be a possibility like Obito transferred it to Nardo already but Sakura will go "but nothing is happening!?"

 

 

3. If granted Nardo wakes up, will he fight immediately? he's like.. dead with a hot chick pumping his heart for him.

will the healing time pave way to NS moment??? yeah i'm trying to keep my expectations low here

will she forget how to breathe again when she sees Nardo back alive? will she hurt him and ask him to give her back her first kissu? lol

 

4. will Obito die after removing the bijuus out?

how will NarSak go out of that dimension? hope that Kishi will not do the same thing to NS like what he did to Kakashi when he battle Obito in that dimension and he was like only shown after awhile

 

 

5. IS there any other meaning to Sakura's fear of Madara? I'm not questioning her being like that. Its understandable to be frozen in the middle of that chaos where she could do nothing and everyone is the edge being fed with kitten. but i just wonder if Kishi means something more or something else on it. Madara didn't cast some genjutsu on her to kill Nardo/obito right? lol

Edited by dejavu, 26 February 2014 - 02:08 PM.

[Enkai]

One thing I noticed that I'm trying to make sense of is when Obito went and reached into the pool of chakra that has all the beasts power formed together. why is it that Kurama is the only one that's separate to the juubi? and significantly smaller at that...

 

 

That's Yin Kurama that is sealed in Obito. You can see parts of it's tails in the first panel above Obito.

Edited by Enkai, 26 February 2014 - 11:53 AM.

[narusaku256]

Not to ruin your enthusiasm guys but this is just a speculation. Since kakashi said 'I am glad my *LAST* strategy is with you Obito' and we all know that Obito is going to die. Again we have a speculation that Guy will open all the 8 gates and as a consequence he will die. So, somewhere in near future is it possible that we will get an emotional scene between all three of them with Naruto like Kakashi saying "Naruto become a good hokage and create peace" n all and then Obito and Kakashi finally discussing to themselves that they will finally be able to meet Rin and Team Minato will once again be complete and Guy saying "My eternal rival Kakashi I am not leaving you I'll follow you" and all those stuff? I hope Kishi dosen't kill them! What are your opinions?

[oksus]

And Minato fails once again -.- at this point I feel as if though Kishi is taking the loss of his father out on Minato.

[shadow_Uzumaki]

@oksus, good point about his father.  Kinda sad to think if that's the reason, though, but not unheard of.

 

 

 

Anyway, interesting to see how effective a hero Obito is, kinda highlights how not so different him and Naruto are, for those "parallel" hungry folks.....

 

Obito used to call teen Gai, "Beast-face."  I guess Gai calling himself the "Green Beast of Konoha," was a tribute to Obito when they thought he died during the 3rd Shinobi War.

[Nefertieh]

I dont think Rin and Sakura are parallels, despite they share the same background the difference of personality between Rin and Sakura is huge.

 

Parallelism =/= same personality.

Mirroring or parallels - A character or incident mirrors another character or incident when the two follow similar plots, act in similar ways or contain similar elements or traits.

Just like a metaphor, it is almost never 'confirmed', because it is too obvious. An author is not going to say "He's 'bad to the bone'... by the way, that just means he's really bad, and, really has nothing to do with bones."

 

One thing I noticed that I'm trying to make sense of is when Obito went and reached into the pool of chakra that has all the beasts power formed together. why is it that Kurama is the only one that's separate to the juubi? and significantly smaller at that...

 

 

Kurama is probably separate from the group because he's only recently been absorbed. He's also probably smaller because he hasn't become part of the coagulation.

 

 

Questions in my hear right now:

1. What did Rin actually said to Minato?

MangaPanda and MangaStream has a different translation to it again.. although i'm leaning more to MangaPanda on this since cutting that sentence off (or keeping it vague until later on to be completed) is more "fitting" than actually saying "I just know how to handle them"

2. What will happen after Naruto wakes up? Will he really wake up this time? is that method of giving the bijuu back to him would work?

what if won't? although that's unlikely that it will not work but it can still be a possibility like Obito transferred it to Nardo already but Sakura will go "but nothing is happening!?"

 

 

3. If granted Nardo wakes up, will he fight immediately? he's like.. dead with a hot chick pumping his heart for him.

will the healing time pave way to NS moment??? yeah i'm trying to keep my expectations low here

will she forget how to breathe again when she sees Nardo back alive? will she hurt him and ask him to give her back her first kissu? lol

 

4. will Obito die after removing the bijuus out?

how will NarSak go out of that dimension? hope that Kishi will not do the same thing to NS like what he did to Kakashi when he battle Obito in that dimension and he was like only shown after awhile

 

 

5. IS there any other meaning to Sakura's fear of Madara? I'm not questioning her being like that. Its understandable to be frozen in the middle of that chaos where she could do nothing and everyone is the edge being fed with kitten. but i just wonder if Kishi means something more or something else on it. Madara didn't cast some genjutsu on her to kill Nardo/obito right? lol

 

1. I've come across a number of translators who have said Mangapanda's translations are the closest to the actual meaning. Mangastream likes to add/ change things to make it flow better.

 

2. It doesn't matter, he's going to be back anyways.

 

3. I would expect some touching scene with Minato and then Obito. Pairing stuff will probably take a back seat as these two will die first.

 

4. Obito would probably die, it seems like the only way for him to be 'redeemed' in the eyes of everyone else. He's never going to start over, and I doubt he'd want to. He's also too powerful for Kishimoto to let him walk. Either way, he's going to die to make way for Sasuke as the new Big Bad.

 

5. Madara can probably kill her by just looking at her. He's not going to go to the trouble of doing something fancy by the looks of it.
 

Edited by Nefertieh, 26 February 2014 - 12:11 PM.

[Dkey]

I liked this chapter.

 

And am wondering about a possible NS moment but I just know that Naruto will ruin it like he did so many before.

[Phantom_999]

hehehehe........ Restriction 666 released.... Dimensional interruption imaginary number formed.... BlazBlue ACTIVATED!!!!!!!! Okay that joke aside........

 

YES!!!!!! Thank you Thank you Thank you Kishi, for not being Cheesy about Naruto's revival!!!!  Now as long As Naruto Gives Madara a proper a** kicking without some miracle win or something like "friendship/love makes you stronger!!!!" but by his own power and means I'll be forever satisfied, and will not complain about whatever you do from here on out!!!!!!    Exccept to "get Naruto and Sakura together already!!!!!" If you're not trying to throw fans off anymore just show us your intentions on the romance.      

[Otaru]

One thing I noticed that I'm trying to make sense of is when Obito went and reached into the pool of chakra that has all the beasts power formed together. why is it that Kurama is the only one that's separate to the juubi? and significantly smaller at that...

 

 

Because Kyuubi is only a half, and he's in Obito, not in Madara.

 

You know guy... I liked the chapter and all but I think Kishi maybe has built TOO MUCH suspense, at a point suspense kills suspense.

I don't know if I'm clear here... I don't want to complain about it... but really, I'm a little disappointed in how he managed Sakura and Minato, and this suspense is during for too long... the effect is dead to me.

I would have loved it to be much quicker.

 

Do you see what I mean ?

 

Anyway, I like that Sakura and Obito will maybe have a chance to talk, but I'm afraid of getting (AGAIN) my hopes too high...

 

I'm starting to feel awkward.

Maybe too much things happened out of the "security barrier" because It's an entirely new situation with Naruto *dead* like that... I don't know.

 

I think I have too much hopes and maybe I get disappointed because of that lol because it's not a crappy chapter, it's a good chapter... it's just... I don't know something is missing ^^'

Edited by Otaru, 26 February 2014 - 12:58 PM.

[melovechoco]

Great chapter...love that kakashi and obito collaboration...and yeah, kishi love to do repetition aka parallel in his manga..that obirin=narusaku thing. Gai,its been a long time since u came..next chapter, there will be an awesome fight, I know it. One thing, once naruto successfully being revived, im just hoping kishi doesn't left out sakura again..just watching him fight alone...or maybe with someone...sasuke...dont care about this...I mean we need sakura to get involved with this fight...but, im sure kishi will make it happen anyway cause he make sakura to focus on fighting instead giving medical treatment..and it would be triple awesome to see sakura and naruto fight together...to take down madara...sakura get another power up through naruto...

"Next time, we gonna do it together "by sakura. Is this foreshadows that they will fight together with their true power..without sasuke...for a moment...while waiting sasuke getting revived?idk....

[rocci]

@melovechoco

at this current state, I don't think sakura will involve fight with madara unless madara get nerf, like loose all of his bijuu. I think this is how madara will lose. 

[Otaru]

Great chapter...love that kakashi and obito collaboration...and yeah, kishi love to do repetition aka parallel in his manga..that obirin=narusaku thing. Gai,its been a long time since u came..next chapter, there will be an awesome fight, I know it. One thing, once naruto successfully being revived, im just hoping kishi doesn't left out sakura again..just watching him fight alone...or maybe with someone...sasuke...dont care about this...I mean we need sakura to get involved with this fight...but, im sure kishi will make it happen anyway cause he make sakura to focus on fighting instead giving medical treatment..and it would be triple awesome to see sakura and naruto fight together...to take down madara...sakura get another power up through naruto...

"Next time, we gonna do it together "by sakura. Is this foreshadows that they will fight together with their true power..without sasuke...for a moment...while waiting sasuke getting revived?idk....

 

I would love that so much but I'm afraid Kishi will not give it to us............

[六道仙人]

Why Sakura should fight Madara? unless she want to die. Madara is on other league than everyone. he soled Hashirama, Tobirama, Minato, Sasuke, etc.. by alone. Besides Sakura has only a modest amount of chakra now. The most important thing is that she is together with Naruto, even she's doing only little things. But as Yamato teached her (and us), no matter how much are little the things you're doing, the most important thing is the feelings behind those little things.

[Inferno180]

In all respect, yin kurama is still technically in black zetsu's body so like how obito was able to extract kurama from kushina, this should for all matters be even easier considering black zetsu is fused onto his own artifical body remember Obito's half of his body was incorperated with the zetsu stuff, so it goes both ways as to why black zetsu was able to take him over and why obito was able to put yin kurama into naruto. So for all matters, Obito isn't removing Yin kurama from himself, he is removing yin kurama from black zetsu so its going to be funny to hear how kishi broke his own jinchurki removal rule with obito despite the ten tails factor he had before, but thats just it, the energy he stole from Madara was enough to at this point negate the effects of the rinne tensei costing his life. Likewise again, Black Zetsu is his own being, its in his own meldable being that Yin Kurama exists, so he may just die from what Obito did. Really in truth, Black Zetsu screwed himself, he didn't expect Obito to stand up and have a surge of will to take over. So as things go, really the only death I see coming is Black Zetsu for now.

 

Otherwise, NH fans are not going to be happy you know why? Neji didn't do anything in the revival even indirectly, I doubt we will get some moment from beyond part like many thought with naruto in limbo meeting others from all points in his journey kinda like when kakashi saw his father. Hey at least we have a potential NS moment with the revival and sakuras reaction to it. Seriously, the reaction is going to be in the kamui dimension, so how will obito react to this? A NaruSaku-ObiRin parallel still possibly can happen. Im hoping we get a hug scene at least though after this ordeal, thats enough.

[melovechoco]

@rocci

We surely dont know yet how its going...anything could happen ...seriously, Anything!! Am I look that kind of desperate to u?

[Otaru]

Otherwise, NH fans are not going to be happy you know why? Neji didn't do anything in the revival even indirectly, I doubt we will get some moment from beyond part like many thought with naruto in limbo meeting others from all points in his journey kinda like when kakashi saw his father. Hey at least we have a potential NS moment with the revival and sakuras reaction to it. Seriously, the reaction is going to be in the kamui dimension, so how will obito react to this? A NaruSaku-ObiRin parallel still possibly can happen. Im hoping we get a hug scene at least though after this ordeal, thats enough.

 

I think we still have a chance to see Naruto in limbo in the next chapter before he will open his eyes for good.

I WANT it to happen. Seriously, that would be great if he could talk a little with Jiraiya... Neji, why not... I thought about it back then because of Hinata's wish... but really... if Naruto would to meet someone in limbo, it would be Jiraiya of all people don't you think ?

 

I'd love a great reaction from Sakura... and some words from Obito too.

[Inferno180]

 

I think we still have a chance to see Naruto in limbo in the next chapter before he will open his eyes for good.

I WANT it to happen. Seriously, that would be great if he could talk a little with Jiraiya... Neji, why not... I thought about it back then because of Hinata's wish... but really... if Naruto would to meet someone in limbo, it would be Jiraiya of all people don't you think ?

 

I'd love a great reaction from Sakura... and some words from Obito too.

 

Best thing for us right now, its a no lose situation for us, there has to be some reaction scene from sakura to narutos recovery, it doesn't need to be very big but just a hug or something is good enough. This happens regardless of any limbo situation or not.

 

Maybe we get something like when Gaara was revived like he was in a big white plain and then this occurs with more gardually appearing, hell if that happens that would be good.

 

Though it does make me a bit sad there wasn't any reference to Kishi's brother's work. I mean a thing of artwork would have been nice at least.

Edited by Inferno180, 26 February 2014 - 01:17 PM.

[Otaru]

But the problem is... if it's not a big moment... then how could it prove she loves him without a doubt ? I mean if she wouldn't freak out when he missed death, when would she freak out ?

That's why I really want her to react strongly.

Maybe I've been too much conditioned by the UNIQLO OVA.... lol ^^'

Edited by Otaru, 26 February 2014 - 01:24 PM.

[六道仙人]

But the problem is... if it's not a big moment... then how could it prove she loves him without a doubt ? I mean if she wouldn't freak out when he missed death, when would she freak out ?

That's why I really want her to react strongly.

Maybe I've been set up by the UNIQLO OVA.... lol ^^'

 

I was talking about when you were saying that she should fight along with Naruto against Madara.

 

But yeah, a reaction from her when Naruto will get up is inevitable.

[Sakamaki Izayoi]

Parallelism =/= same personality.

Mirroring or parallels - A character or incident mirrors another character or incident when the two follow similar plots, act in similar ways or contain similar elements or traits.

I know it, i pointed you the fact that parallels face the same problem or situations the only situation Rin and Sakura share in common is the Team 7 setup, if her parallel with Rin was valid she would have taken a more protagonist role during when Obito's team come into play.
Rin's had different obstacles to face than Sakura, Sakura obstacle is more in terms of romance relationship, Rin was all about the shinobi world.
Her problems were all during the war and to act as the middle person to make Obito and Kakashi stop fighting each other and unite them as a team .
Rin played the role of the girl who united Obito and Kakashi, she was always watching over them, and most important she was the one who greatly supported Obito when he was faltering about his dream of being kage.
 

there is kakashi and sasuke in part one.
sooner or later kishi will acknowledge it.
team minato is the closest to team seven out of all three man team parallel.

Speculation arent valid, "sooner or later will acknowledged it"
That's just your opinion cant be taken as fact.

There's team parallels and there's specific characters parallels.

Edited by Dαrkrєrsŧ, 26 February 2014 - 01:30 PM.