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[BlueStarSaber]

I wonder since black zetsu is madara's will meaning he is apart of him and him having one of his eyes was the reason he could use sasano. Just a guess.

[TouKen4Life3g]

Well, the thing is what will happen if the Bijuus are out, which seems like it could happen before 4th chapter? That would mean everyone must get involved or rather get dragged in because of Madara. Remember, there are still Edo and Kages left, so things will get complicated as soon as Bijuus are taken out, which also demonstrate the power of Madara. So pretty much, people will grow fear because it's like they got one problem out but have another in. Right now, it's monsters vs. a god-like man. Like I said, now it's time to take a break, because this is a new beginning, so things would go slow again.

[Atheck]

This has been mentioned several times in the past, but I just want to stress that Madara should have the Rinnegan's abilities now. It just so happens that everyone that he is fighting currently is either made from chakra or they're using techniques that are absorbable. Madara could very easily have this end within a few minutes if he just maintained HGR. That would instantly nullify Naruto's bijuu shroud, ninjutsu, and everything else that the bijuu or jinchuuriki could muster, including Gaara's sand. Not only that, absorption seems to include some restorative benefits to the user. Nagato went from being emaciated to youthful and strong after acquiring Gyuki's chakra. 

 

Super Shinra Tensei to damage the bijuu and jinchuuriki followed up by HGR absorption to recover the chakra and life force consumed in the attack would be a perfect combination. Or perhaps Madara could try "Overwhelming" again. Although the strategic value of that technique is questionable now since all of the bijuu should be easily capable of destroying any meteorites summoned. Unless he used it as a distraction to strike at an opening. Either way, Madara has a powerful arsenal behind himself now and he has the senjutsu to amplify the effects. 

Edited by Atheck, 11 December 2013 - 06:50 PM.

[Sakamaki Izayoi]

Sure, why not. And the right eye will mutate into Byakugan while he starts exhibiting Haku's bloodine, which, it will turn out, came from Madara too.

Well he can use shadow clones but about the byakugan i can  even imagine the requirement "60+ years of virginity".

 

 

This has been mentioned several times in the past, but I just want to stress that Madara should have the Rinnegan's abilities now. It just so happens that everyone that he is fighting currently is either made from chakra or they're using techniques that are absorbable. Madara could very easily have this end within a few minutes if he just maintained HGR. That would instantly nullify Naruto's bijuu shroud, ninjutsu, and everything else that the bijuu or jinchuuriki could muster, including Gaara's sand. Not only that, absorption seems to include some restorative benefits to the user. Nagato went from being emaciated to youthful and strong after acquiring Gyuki's chakra. 

 

Super Shinra Tensei to damage the bijuu and jinchuuriki followed up by HGR absorption to recover the chakra and life force consumed in the attack would be a perfect combination. Or perhaps Madara could try "Overwhelming" again. Although the strategic value of that technique is questionable now since all of the bijuu should be easily capable of destroying any meteorites summoned. Unless he used it as a distraction to strike at an opening. Either way, Madara has a powerful arsenal behind himself now and he has the senjutsu to amplify the effects. 

We need to see if this affect senjutsu abilities those stuff always have a weakness and my guess is senjutsu once again

Naruto is experient at fighting against Rinnegan abilities he can easily keep everyone informed, i'm thinking more about Madara going after Minato to get the other half of the kyuubi.

Edited by Dαrkrєrsŧ, 11 December 2013 - 06:53 PM.

[sushi.]

^But if he does get the Rinnegan abilities, he would be even more OP. Which means an even longer fight.

 

I would rather have the plothole.

[Nate River]

Just read the chapter...
 
Umm... how many arsepull no jutsu did Madara use this chapter?

Dunno.

We're still cataloging them.

[Sakamaki Izayoi]

^But if he does get the Rinnegan abilities, he would be even more OP. Which means an even longer fight.

 

I would rather have the plothole.

This fight for me it's filler, i only liked the fact that Naruto swapped with Kurama and let him fight on his place to have his payback.

[Atheck]

The recent chapters seem to be really unpopular with many of the fans here. It's odd because this is Madara's climax, the pinnacle of his relevance in the manga and of his power being showcased. No one else is interested in seeing how this fight unfolds? 

[TouKen4Life3g]

The recent chapters seem to be really unpopular with many of the fans here. It's odd because this is Madara's climax, the pinnacle of his relevance in the manga and of his power being showcased. No one else is interested in seeing how this fight unfolds? 

The thing is this is the beginning, so it will start off slow as usual. Of course I'll gain interest, just playing waiting game. Thankfully, Madara got his eye back, so it should be a bit quicker.

[BakeNeko-Chan]

@ Atheck:

 

 No, I don't feel involved or particularly drawn in to this fight, Madara does not really interest me, though I know he is an important villain and all, the 'Big Boss' more or less. These OP fights that Naruto has become known for are not my cup of tea, and it feels like KIshimoto is doing things randomly right now. Meh, maybe I need to take a break for a few weeks, maybe it will feel more worthwhile if I have more to read in a sitting, I just don't feel like I'm getting anything out of this manga right now.

Edited by BakeNeko-Chan, 11 December 2013 - 07:13 PM.

[Sakamaki Izayoi]

The recent chapters seem to be really unpopular with many of the fans here. It's odd because this is Madara's climax, the pinnacle of his relevance in the manga and of his power being showcased. No one else is interested in seeing how this fight unfolds? 

Kishi failed to portray Madara as a decent villain, he sat there all cocky during the whole battle with his forced bromance with Hashirama, Kishi did the same thing with Madara what he did with Kabuto, when he wanst working on them as a villain they were cool as soon as he started focusing on them they lost their appeal.

 

 

Madara has no purpose to keep fighting on the battle, Kishi dragged this whole battle of this war too long that even with Madara fighting here, i feel that the plot is not moving forward, it's like Madara is being used as a device to lenghten the manga rather than being portraited as a decent villain.

Edited by Dαrkrєrsŧ, 11 December 2013 - 07:52 PM.

[Nate River]

The recent chapters seem to be really unpopular with many of the fans here. It's odd because this is Madara's climax, the pinnacle of his relevance in the manga and of his power being showcased. No one else is interested in seeing how this fight unfolds?

I'm interested, but not as much as I used to be. I'm hoping for Kishimoto to expand on his rather vague and uninspiring motivation. It was also somewhat deflating to see his background with the Hokage's and the crap about the Uchiha curse. It reminds of my juvenile case load: I find a limitless supply of kids who hang around the wrong crowd, but I find the kids who are the wrong crowd to be rather elusive.

He had potential, but I think some of it was wasted when Kishimoto opted to cram him in the same round hole every other villain has been crammed in.

I like watching a Supreme badass fight, but that doesn't mean I want that achieved through a continuing series of constant asspulls and the shredding of the stories internal consistency.

I will say I did like fight up in that point though. The Gaara half of the chapter was nice.

[Konoha'sCrimsonFox]

Well, i think Madara has evolved beyond the limits of an EMS that he doesn't need to use the Sharingan. Very cheesy.

[Nate River]

I guess, but that's not even stated anywhere and I guess nobody in series saw that because no else mentions it either. Perhaps we get an answer next week, but it's a type change we shouldn't left saying, "I think" or "I guess" as to what happened.

[MangaReader]

Well sure why not...just make Madara unstoppable either living or dead Kishi. Anything to continue this over powering of the Uchiha clan : P

[Question22]

it's funny, in a nonsensical way  . no sakura-chan either.

 

You know its not nice to spoil a chapter for somebody xD

[sushi.]

 

You know its not nice to spoil a chapter for somebody xD

Dude..I asked for it. I don't care.

[Phantom_999]

In all honesty I did enjoy the chapter, I just did not like that Madara defies how powers work here to the extreme. That Susanoo without his eyes is like Naruto Using Biju Chakra mode without Kurama and Kishi is definitely not gonna do that. It'd be awesome if he did, but stupid at the same time because it makes no sense because Naruto and Kurama need to combine their chakra to create that transformation. So I wonder where Madara gets off with this without his eyes? Even if I've learned to just accept the work as it goes and am for the most part accepting what been done I seriously want to give myself a concussion over this

Edited by Phantom_999, 11 December 2013 - 08:54 PM.

[Konoha'sCrimsonFox]

I'm guessing, whatever he took from Obito has not only rid of him his Edo Tensei body, but has allow him to use all Sharingan abilities without the Sharingan active. This I can't comprehend the logic behind, much less grasp the concept of him losing his Edo Tensei from is a good thing or a bad thing. Does this mean he's mortal.? Danm Kishi with all his useless tropes.

[Dkey]

Hmm I wonder if Madara will try to do the ones his fighting what he did with Obito. Somehow it would be interesting to see some "mind-controlled" characters by proxy of black Zetsu.

 

As for the eye technique. It was an asspull from the start it will end as an asspull.