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#61 Hanabi

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Posted 27 November 2013 - 01:19 PM

Say out of curiosity how would everyone react if Sakura does the killing blow to Madara? Not saying it's likely or goanna happen, just how would you feel.

kishi's too sexist. no way that would happen.


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Posted 27 November 2013 - 01:29 PM

Maybe Nagato is dead for the huge effort given that he had to revive more than one people while Obito was forced to revive only one person here...

Yep it was said that Nagato died due to the severe stress of the gedo who suck all of his vitality and turn his hair to white.
So i'll prefer to wait Obito's death confirmation before doing any conclusions.

He has the gedo mazo inside him granting him an huge vitality.

 

But being honest the fourth hokage looks like an slowpoke, because srsly he certainly could save Obito with his hiraishin.


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Posted 27 November 2013 - 01:41 PM

Obito isn't dead yet. What Black Zetsu did was in a way, forcing Obito to use Rinne Tensei on Madara, but Obito seemed to still be alive.

And he was about to bring those who killed in the Alliance back, not Nagato or Jiraiya.

 

Also, Nagato died out of chakra loss not because he used the technique. Konan even pointed it out.


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Posted 27 November 2013 - 01:41 PM

kishi's too sexist. no way that would happen.


I'm not saying will I'm asking you would feel, should you like it or hate it?

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Posted 27 November 2013 - 02:00 PM

I'm not saying will I'm asking you would feel, should you like it or hate it?


I would like it and hate it. I would like it because it would be badass for Sakura to do that and I would hate it because the madara fight is not something that Sakura should deal with as much as naruto an hashirama. It would feel out of place and strange.

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Posted 27 November 2013 - 02:17 PM

I have a funny feeling if he is not dead already, he is going to die.


It's not a funny feeling, it's inevitable.

Life is so much easier for the author if he dies on his own (or via a villain). Then Naruto doesn't have to own up to his own choice.

He doesn't have to worry about "what next" is Obito bites it.

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Posted 27 November 2013 - 03:21 PM

I think a very important detail was overlooked in this chapter. Personally I didn't notice it either until someone else pointed it out.

 

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Can you see the rods protruding from Hashirama's back? Notice how he was visibly exhausted this chapter. He's no longer in Sage Mode. This could only mean that Madara succeeded in draining the senjutsu abilities. 
 

kishi's too sexist. no way that would happen.


She doesn't have any relevance to the Madara subplot and generally only those with a significant connection to the character are allowed to defeat/kill them, with Naruto and Sasuke being exceptions since they're the two most important characters in the manga.

 



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Posted 27 November 2013 - 03:25 PM

Well that was a surprise...NOT, Seriously I've been expecting something like this to happen for months now, Madara was too chilled out whenn Obito became the host of the ten tails and went against the plan he had set up for him.

 

Ofcourse the fact he's taken over Obito's body after the TnJ came into effect will likely mean that Madara will have troubles with Obito trying to stop him somewhere along the line.


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Posted 27 November 2013 - 03:25 PM

I think a very important detail was overlooked in this chapter. Personally I didn't notice it either until someone else pointed it out.

 

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Can you see the rods protruding from Hashirama's back? Notice how he was visibly exhausted this chapter. He's no longer in Sage Mode. This could only mean that Madara succeeded in draining the senjutsu abilities. 
 


She doesn't have any relevance to the Madara subplot and generally only those with a significant connection to the character are allowed to defeat/kill them, with Naruto and Sasuke being exceptions since they're the two most important characters in the manga.

 

Agreed. I mean we all have dreams but everything can't happen. Maybe if it was the killing blow on sasuke then that would be different.



 


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Posted 27 November 2013 - 03:28 PM

I think a very important detail was overlooked in this chapter. Personally I didn't notice it either until someone else pointed it out.

 

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Can you see the rods protruding from Hashirama's back? Notice how he was visibly exhausted this chapter. He's no longer in Sage Mode. This could only mean that Madara succeeded in draining the senjutsu abilities. 

Yeah but neither Madara shows the sage mode's markings.

 

Recipe how to multiply rinnegans.

1 - Kill Madara

2 - Take his eyes

3 - Transplant on someome else.

4 - Revive Madara with an edo tensei

5 - Make the person who got the eyes to use Rinne Tensei on the edo Madara.

6 - ??

7 - You now have 4 Rinnegans.

 

To finish up we only need Orochimaru to take over Madara's body.


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Posted 27 November 2013 - 03:35 PM

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for me the one who will defeat madara is obito or combination of obito and kakashi.

it can be sasuke the one who will finish of madara, but I don't like that idea.

 

I believe the war arc will end in the next volume. 

Hard to say because it's now proven that Madara is an all around villain that has related more or less to all due to his works as well as Madara knowing that Naruto is a stubborn guy who can't seem to get back down. He will be seen as a new Hashirama, which will he get annoyed to see. Needless to say, he's everyone's villain.

 

Wow what a chapter!

 

Poor Obito =(

 

I think Madara is after the 9 tails only tbh.

You know, that does remind that chapter where he said he wants his pet back. That said I wonder if that's his idea still before he does whatever he needs to do next. If so, sheesh, Naruto can't take a break. In fact, it's even worse that Naruto is in rough state as well. Naruto is right in the frontline, so Madara can just attack him head on. Whatever happens, well, anything goes. We'll see what's next. Funny because this is another way to lead to OVA ending.

 

 

I have a funny feeling if he is not dead already, he is going to die.

 

 

Does this mean obito is dead :'(

Possibly in the next chapter that he will die. As for surprise, to be honest, I was more surprised the choice of words from Obito, especially not deserving to die to meet Rin rather just die alone. Pretty tragic, even when he does a redemption move. Hell, even Nagato and recent Sasori got a "happy" ending. This guy, if die next chapter, is really going down tragically. I do like how he connected to Jiraiya, implying even after death, he still wins. That was nice of Kishi to fill in the connection. Well, next chapter should be a boom. Last chapter usually leaves a twist, turn of a event, big development(s), and a cliffhanger that makes you curious even more.



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Posted 27 November 2013 - 04:31 PM

Well it makes sense to hold on to see what happens next, I mean this is the second time this ending occured,

 

first time was at the end when Obito came back from the dimension exhuasted and madara just activated it, next chapter after that ended with obito becoming the ten tails jinchurki. So with this sudden event, its likely that something could again interfere but if Madara is brought back to life in full, then its just an easier goal for the allaince to kill him rather than seal him, he would lose the benefits of the edo tensei. Otherwise with the rinne tensei being used on madara results in the road of reviving anyone else rendered cut off, neji is dead for good (also gives signifcane to his sacrifice, I mean if he was revived then this would undermine 615 even more) also Sakura doesnt hit a temp death either, she merely survives the harsh fight. Im wondering how this will turn out though, I mean madara + seven tailed beasts is not a good thing to have on the field, Madara going to take them for a joyride or suddenly shove them back together as the evil tree? Or is the husk of the ten tails as a tree enough to continue forward? Madara is going to do one thing obviously, taunt Hashirama about coming back to life, but it will be funny when Madara dies, again, in like 20 to 30 chapters. I do see it as possible that Orochimaru may attempt to take over madara's body in a suprise attack. I mean I remember what sugetusu said when he found the secret room: "With this information, we can become gods!" Its just not enough that Orochimaru would only have that to get his arms back. He had knowledge to get the hokage back too and consider this: Orochimaru when he was sealed by itachi continued to have lasting impacts around the series, he had leftover information on Danzo, leftover knowledge on Madara himself and the stone tablet the uchiha had, Kabuto had all the information and used it to his own advantage. Orochimaru is a genius. He sought immortality. He was a true snake, think about the times in the seires he was gone yet something every now and then popped up relating to him and he had knowledge of it or it caused some interference. Orochimaru may be the final villian, as Sakura isnt trusting sasuke, orochimaru with taka are the unpredictable 3rd faction. What will they do with a revived madara now?



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Posted 27 November 2013 - 04:35 PM

I saw those black rods as well... Imo, I think Madara wanted to be alive so he could get Hashi's SM, given that he has Hashi's DNA already implanted in him, therefore, he could once again, get the bijuus so he would become the ten tail's jinchuuriki as he wanted.


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Posted 27 November 2013 - 04:46 PM

I saw those black rods as well... Imo, I think Madara wanted to be alive so he could get Hashi's SM, given that he has Hashi's DNA already implanted in him, therefore, he could once again, get the bijuus so he would become the ten tail's jinchuuriki as he wanted.

That's the weak point of his plan, being alive he's weaker because he doesnt have the unlimited chakra anymore and i doubt that Madara will be able to get the bijuu's once again.
I believe Madara is underestimating the alliance and i would not get surprised if the kages fullfill their promise with Naruto by killing Madara by themselves.


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Posted 27 November 2013 - 05:01 PM

That's the weak point of his plan, being alive he's weaker because he doesnt have the unlimited chakra anymore and i doubt that Madara will be able to get the bijuu's once again.
I believe Madara is underestimating the alliance and i would not get surprised if the kages fullfill their promise with Naruto by killing Madara by themselves.

But he was about to defeated by a mere seal. I would rather go for a bang than die with repent style. Rather anti-climatic. That said the way he said suggests that he would do much more than ever, so don't underestimate the possibility until we see it. Plus, Obito was going to revive all until stopped, so your call.

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Posted 27 November 2013 - 05:03 PM

But he was about to defeated by a mere seal. I would rather go for a bang than die with repent style. Rather anti-climatic. That said the way he said suggests that he would do much more than ever, so don't underestimate the possibility until we see it. Plus, Obito was going to revive all until stopped, so your call.

In fact he could use the human path on Minato and take away the kyuubi chakra but that would be lazy because they literally are letting Madara do what he wants without no one trying to stop him.


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Posted 27 November 2013 - 05:07 PM

I really look forward next chapter because it feels like "all according to plan" moment from this point forward.



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Posted 27 November 2013 - 05:37 PM

Madara is too happy that he is alive so I think he knows what he's doing... While in ET form he'd seem more powerful, he seemed not to care that much whereas now, he's all happy happy joy joy...


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Posted 27 November 2013 - 05:44 PM

Madara is too happy that he is alive so I think he knows what he's doing... While in ET form he'd seem more powerful, he seemed not to care that much whereas now, he's all happy happy joy joy...

He always understimates his opponents, so he was all happy because i thinks from here on he will able to win.

Kishi already spoiled what will happen next Chatte, he will be defeated by either the kages or the bijuus combined.

 

Dunno where's Sasuke?


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Posted 27 November 2013 - 06:00 PM

He always understimates his opponents, so he was all happy because i thinks from here on he will able to win.
Kishi already spoiled what will happen next Chatte, he will be defeated by either the kages or the bijuus combined.
 
Dunno where's Sasuke?

I'm telling you, one of us will be wrong. We got one believe that he got something big, the other is only asking an easy death wish. He was happy to be alive, so something is up. Next chapter is the "!!!" chapter, so be prepare for anything.




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