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[Awes9]

Everyone is shown reacting to a part of Naruto's memory : Sakura team 7 loss, Sarutobi his own death, Sarutobi and team 10 to Asuma's death, Oro and Tsunade to Jiraya's death, Sasuke to Itachi, Gaara to Chiyo's sacrifice, Hinata to Neji’s death and Minato to him and Kushina's death.
Yes regrets about not being able to confess to his love interest might come up later since it's Obito's biggest regret but it has nothing to do with this chapter.

[Chatte]

Everyone is shown reacting to a part of Naruto's memory : Sakura team 7 loss, Sarutobi his own death, Sarutobi and team 10 to Asuma's death, Oro and Tsunade to Jiraya's death, Sasuke to Itachi, Gaara to Chiyo's sacrifice, Hinata to Neji’s death and Minato to him and Kushina's death.
Yes regrets about not being able to confess to his love interest might come up later since it's Obito's biggest regret but it has nothing to do with this chapter.

That's what people were saying. That it may be a set-up following Naruto's and Sai's talk about confessing to Sakura and since he doesn't want to have any regrets, he'll confess her.

[Dkey]

Everyone is shown reacting to a part of Naruto's memory : Sakura team 7 loss, Sarutobi his own death, Sarutobi and team 10 to Asuma's death, Oro and Tsunade to Jiraya's death, Sasuke to Itachi, Gaara to Chiyo's sacrifice, Hinata to Nejis death and Minato to him and Kushina's death.
Yes regrets about not being able to confess to his love interest might come up later since it's Obito's biggest regret but it has nothing to do with this chapter.

but if this chapyer hints to what happens next and the next volume is about regrets hopefully things will wrap up.

if the tree doesnt bloom then both madara and obito will be crushed

[morgaine4]

Everyone is shown reacting to a part of Naruto's memory : Sakura team 7 loss, Sarutobi his own death, Sarutobi and team 10 to Asuma's death, Oro and Tsunade to Jiraya's death, Sasuke to Itachi, Gaara to Chiyo's sacrifice, Hinata to Neji’s death and Minato to him and Kushina's death.
Yes regrets about not being able to confess to his love interest might come up later since it's Obito's biggest regret but it has nothing to do with this chapter.

 

There's a difference between claiming that something was for sure a pairing moment, and speculating whether something in this chapter could contribute to a future pairing moment.  I agree, there were no "pairing" moments this chapter (except one sided SasuKarin, and the Senju Family moment, but that isn't romantic) but events in this chapter could be used to bring about a future pairing moment --and considering one of Obito's motivations are his regrets considering Rin, that the Minato-Obito flashback explicitly paralleled the conversation between Sai and Naruto (in which Naruto expressed his desire to confess when he felt worthy), it's not inappropriate to speculate what might happen in the future.

 

Just to clarify, there's a HUGE difference between speculating what might happen in the future and how current events might contribute to the future event vs. insisting that something was for sure a pairing moment even if it had nothing to do with romance.

[Awes9]

That's what people were saying. That it may be a set-up following Naruto's and Sai's talk about confessing to Sakura and since he doesn't want to have any regrets, he'll confess her.

But Chatte that's not what people were saying didn't you read the posts about Sakura knowing how Naruto feels thanks to this chapter.
And honestly we didn't need this chapter to know that it was more or less implied before whether it is the obirin/narusaku parallel or the future problable Naruto confession.
I just think it was a great chapter and it's a bit ruined by all these shipping speculation.


Well Morgaine4 put it better than me.

Edited by Awes9, 17 September 2013 - 10:19 AM.

[Inferno180]

Oh wow what a chapter.

Shikamaru dear god no, one of the coolest characters, he was nailed offscreen. Thankfully sakura is there to try and fix things.
I'm really happy sakura is a ok. Also glad to see the kage have come at last. Orochimaru appearing was a shocker too. Karin least made it a bit funny. It's also nice to see Sasuke innovated with his sussano but also has some other stuff in store. Hashiramas plan is also a last act now too. I'm seriously wondering now if shikamaru will be left alive or die. The other deal of naruto and his regrets was a big scene all those over the series that had died in someway that conveyed his feelings, wishes he could have done something else but doesn't spend that time wondering if he could have gotten a different outcome. Nh fans can make any statements they want on the stuff, there's no romance from any of this, it's on naruto himself and his struggles, everyone saw his struggles from his heart, (some SS fans apparently are going on about the panel of Sasuke and then next to it when sakura says I can feel his heart despite that heart being narutos and not sasukes). Personally sarotobi seeing his and asuma s deaths was a hard hitting fact to him that was quite impactive, same with Chiyo with gaara.

There was nothing pairing oriented this chapter, I just wish fans wouldn't freak out and go claiming there were just cause there was panels of Sasuke next to sakura and naruto next to hinata, that doesn't mean anything I mean it wasn't affectionate development now, the purpose of this chapter was narutos regrets, it's that simple everyone saw what he had sorrow for in his life. Even then sakura already understood some if this. Can a ns thing come from this? Maybe, if there was some regret to sakura naruto had but it wasn't shown and is only revealed later on, by that logic though everyone would be able to see his heart aside from the regrets. Anyways good chapter, best this year along with 631.

[milan kyuubi]

But Chatte that's not what people were saying didn't you read the posts about Sakura knowing how Naruto feels thanks to this chapter.

 

It's not the first time something like this will happen. Yes there were no romance in this chapter. But Kishi can easily add (retcon) this chapter. Where Sakura/Hinata felt his love.

[Awes9]

It's not the first time something like this will happen. Yes there were no romance in this chapter. But Kishi can easily add (retcon) this chapter. Where Sakura/Hinata felt his love.

So instead of speaking of the actual chapter we should look for possible retcons or off panel development, I honestly don't get it.

[morgaine4]

But Chatte that's not what people were saying didn't you read the posts about Sakura knowing how Naruto feels thanks to this chapter.
And honestly we didn't need this chapter to know that it was more or less implied before whether it is the obirin/narusaku parallel or the future problable Naruto confession.
I just think it was a great chapter and it's a bit ruined by all these shipping speculation.

 

Why let what others (in the NS fandom, or in other portions of the Naruto fandom) say, ruin the chapter for you?  Everyone has the right to free speech, free speculation.  Let people enjoy it as they will, speculate as they will (so long as they're not being cruel to others), and you should do the same.  Do your own speculation, if you disagree with someone express that, but what's the point in trying to control how other's read/analyze a chapter?  That's not fair to anybody.  The fandom wars happen when people are concerned with others, they want to control what others think, they want to enjoy the way others enjoy the manga.  Just focus on what you want to speculate, not everyone in this thread is speculating the pairing possibilities.

Edited by morgaine4, 17 September 2013 - 10:24 AM.

[Sakamaki Izayoi]

Everyone is shown reacting to a part of Naruto's memory : Sakura team 7 loss, Sarutobi his own death, Sarutobi and team 10 to Asuma's death, Oro and Tsunade to Jiraya's death, Sasuke to Itachi, Gaara to Chiyo's sacrifice, Hinata to Neji’s death and Minato to him and Kushina's death.
Yes regrets about not being able to confess to his love interest might come up later since it's Obito's biggest regret but it has nothing to do with this chapter.

Nope, he just showed why he wants to save Sasuke and what Sasuke is to him, that was nothing related to Sakura, she only see thoughout Naruto's heart on the Sasuke matter, it has nothing to do with that, she just now understand why he wants to save Sasuke.

 

She thought it was because of the promise.

 

I think the Poal should had been included but kishi chose to avoid any pairing moments on those flashbacks.

forget about the poal i now see that it really should not be included.

Edited by Dαrkrєrsŧ, 17 September 2013 - 10:31 AM.

[Akashi]

Okay so I found another reason why Shika shouldn't die: his promise to Asuma about his and Kurenai's kid!!

[Chatte]

Okay so I found another reason why Shika shouldn't die: his promise to Asuma about his and Kurenai's kid!!

I was thinking about that. He is supposed to take care of the king...SO he shouldn't die.

[rocci]

Naruto special feeling to sakura (I believe) will play in the next volume.

[Atheck]

There have been so many inspirational speeches throughout this battle that the lines between what their meaning and context was is blurred. Its value is lost if the concept is being rehashed numerous times in the same situation. Maybe that's the reason for this chapter feeling lacklustre personally. I thought the most significant developments were Orochimaru's arrival, the confirmation of Sakura's seal still remaining (somehow), and an update on the Kages as they ride on the sand platforms to the giant protruding plant monster in the distance. 

 

Is anyone else thinking that Onoki could potentially destroy this tree all by himself? Sasuke sliced an enormous branch with just one swing of his imperfect Susanoo's blade. If Jinton could be enhanced by Tsunade then the entire tree might be disintegrated. It's a strangely hilarious thought when you think about it. All of Tobi's hopes and dreams, as well as the cause for all of the affliction suffered by the Alliance, taken out with just a single jutsu from an old man with back problems. 

[Sakamaki Izayoi]

Okay so I found another reason why Shika shouldn't die: his promise to Asuma about his and Kurenai's kid!!

The reason why he's not going to die is because if he would die we would have the entire chapter of flashbacks about his life.

[Awes9]

Why let what others (in the NS fandom, or in other portions of the Naruto fandom) say, ruin the chapter for you?  Everyone has the right to free speech, free speculation.  Let people enjoy it as they will, speculate as they will (so long as they're not being cruel to others), and you should do the same.  Do your own speculation, if you disagree with someone express that, but what's the point in trying to control how other's read/analyze a chapter?  That's not fair to anybody.  The fandom wars happen when people are concerned with others, they want to control what others think, they want to enjoy the way others enjoy the manga.  Just focus on what you want to speculate, not everyone in this thread is speculating the pairing possibilities.

This fandom in general has been ruining the manga for me that's why I rarely goes to any forums nowadays. This is a thread about Naruto 647 and I don't get why eveeything has to turn into actual pairing moments, if you look closely the only persons I was responding were those who saw an actual pairing moment in the chapter itself, speculation about future pairing moment is fine by me, since people wants to express themselves about how they show a pairing moment in this chapter then I have the right to show why I disagreed based on what I read, I am not trying to shut down anyone I am just asking for them to give me proper arguments to support their claims.

Darkness : maybe maybe not. I will get to that later I need to leave now.

[Inferno180]

It's funny, with 15 minutes till doom, if they cut it close to the wire, if they were to have no regrets left, it's not hard to imagine naruto confessing to sakura, least to clear himself of regret. I still don't understand why people overreact to Panal spacing and placement, obviously the final page may have sent some nh fans into "nh is coming" like this or that mode. Some SS fans too, never mind the previous development or other hints still lying around (631 and 635 not to also menton the chapter where Sasuke tells obito he will end naruto). That stuff is still around and should be the stuff taken at face value, not the spacing of panels. Though I really do find the possiblity likely that for naruto when there is no time left or the conflict gets down to the final moment, he may confess to sakura or just want to clear his heart at least.

I'm not saying anything is assured ns stuff but going on the ideal that this is regrets from how he wished that day he talked to Sasuke and the many deaths of close allies came forward, if it all the shinobi could see his full regrets, the promise to sakura is just one that again remains around and may be brought up later. If they could see narutos full heart, well sakura knows everything now. But she understood him a lot already. Depending on what regrets were see able by the shinobi, it depends if anything revealed later in was also see able in narutos heart so if there was anything regret wise for team 7 on naruto aside from Sasuke, yes it would be oriented towards sakura, otherwise we will just need to see if anything else gets revealed. But I find it highly possible that naruto could confess in the last moments if things get close to the wire. Anyways a confession from naruto could come anytime in the future but I'm still leaning on it coming much more around the naruto vs Sasuke fight.

[Chatte]

The reason why he's not going to die is because if he would die we would have the entire chapter of flashbacks about his life.

Well Neji didn't quite got that treatment ...

[TouKen4Life3g]

First of all, I called it!!!!!!!!!!

 

Second, yeah, we're at the end of the war. I'll explain more in the review but I will say this. Judging by the reaction from Naruto, this is pretty much Naruto going all out moment now. Meaning he will get to the point that he will get himself killed. He won't die, but you know what I mean. I think that ova is coming true soon.

[Branden]

Well it's official, Naruto has just been given the single most powerful ninjutsu that has ever existed. He is now capable of using the purest form of communication allowing people to truly understand each other. I guess now we know how he's going to bring world peace.