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[Kster95]

I can see Hinata being in her own world where she is with Naruto but then sees that he isn't happy with her and is constantly thinking about Sakura, then she finally accepts Naruto as just a friend breaking her tsukuyomi. This would be the best development for Hinata. 

Edited by Kster95, 04 September 2013 - 10:45 AM.

[archangel]

It actually has begun.

Let me enlighten you!

 

Apparently we lost our biggest argument

Okay so I don’t know if y’all caught this, but NaruSaku fans always go on and on about parallels, so let’s draw one here. 

They usually compare Sakura to Kushina, saying they are the same. Despite the fact that Naruto isn’t really like Minato personality-wise, they still claim the parallel fits perfectly.

On these two pages, Minato compares Naruto to Kushina. A parallel is made, comparing Naruto to his mother (Kushina) as opposed to Sakura being compared to Kushina. 

If you would like to draw parallels, then it’s safe to assume that in the paralleled relationship that Naruto is expected to have, Naruto will be the brash and bold one, since he is being compared to Kushina. Because of that, his partner will have to be the sky and quiet one. 

Also, Minato was inspired by Kushina’s look of determination and apparant confidence in the ability to do anything. The same way that Hinata is inspired by Naruto in his confidence and determination to never give up. Minato is inspired by Naruto in the same way.

And, for the first time, NaruHina takes over the MinaKush parallel, and the NaruSaku fans lose one of their biggest arguments.

 

The Biggest parallel is More the Sakura/Kushina 1 since to me, Kushina told Naruto to find someone like his mother, personnality and even backstory tell , which Sakura fit damn sure more then Kushina. We already know that Naruto Inherit Minato ressemblance but Kushina personnality so nothing is new in this chapter.

 

And maybe I'm biaised but except the calm part, Minato nothing Like Hinata. He was a genius on his own time compare to a girl that come from a great clan but was at a low level in combat ,Neji was and her sister got more potential. ( She figures how to use the 64 palm recently, thought she knew it since the beginning of Shippuden)

 

Plus we don't know how Minato interact that much with Kushina that much, we just know that Kushina always won her argument against Minato unless it's really important which fit the Naruto/Sakura interaction. And he admire her determination face to danger( which face to danger read the chapter when Sakura say to Naruto that she's too a student of a sannin and she won't sit back, he just smile:P)  When Hinata put her life in danger for Naruto, it's only as a human shield. Plus admiration of the person you loved it's just natural.

 

I didn't believe that they were that much a Narusaku/Minakushi parallel but by writting this, yeah there's a little. (The major Parallel to me that matter is still as I say on top the Sakura/Kushina since the parting word was to find someone like your mother, not have a relationship like your mother so since you are hyperactive you needed someone calm. )

 

 

 

 

[LadyGT]

I think we will see only Naruto's tsukuyomi, maybe Obito's too.
RTN is the only thing that is ringing my bell right now.

[Inferno180]

Well that was eventful, funny and a buildup of extreme power. Love how naruto and minato managed to knock obito back. Now we see the obito going into his own tailed beast mode. Looks like a great clash is about to start if obito is going to finally launch the infinite tysukiomki. Sasuke getting frustrated again is going to come back and hit the right marks for the final battle.

About what minato did with comparing naruto to Kushina, nh fans are going to go crazy over this but didn't they realize they are his parents, yes he has attributes of both of them. Even then where is hinatas comparison towards minato? Still nothing like that exists. Ugh It's like now they want to act like all past references are moot or useless when they have been in the entire time. 631 still has sakura as the only girl compared to Kushina but now they are going on trying to say its a Kushina Kushina. But this isn't. Now they are saying because minato felt helpless or whatever this makes him like hinata? Seriously? Like it had nothing to do with the issues minato left behind in the world and what he felt he did to naruto rather than a string of self confidence issues? 631 didn't change if there's still no other girl to be compared to sakura.

Parallels are for similarities and references that gain connections at later times by someone else in some event or party in the naruto universe, generally it's for the reader to make those connections based off of the other events. All of team 7 and the Sannin have been paralleled, that's easy. Team 7 with team minato as well. When it comes down to minato and Kushina though, we see minato as the one shown in more people when they saw him. Naruto has aspects of Kushina too as she is his mother, but for seriously narutos been compared to Kushina before. He also sees Kushina in sakura, but guess we should forget kushinas foreshadow about finding a girl like her because of this now. Whatever the case things really haven't changed when it came to 631 I mean sakura is still the only girl like Kushina shown canonically, but some fans just want to disregard that stuff. Minato acting like this, that doesn't mean nh, he had his own issues beyond self confidence. If anything there is a difference between this and 615 and while 615 dealt with sacrifice, minato towards naruto was dealing with forgiveness and how far naruto came even though he had burdens, basically it was how though minato and Kushina left a few troubles for naruto, they all were overcome. But some fans still put pairing stuff in places and chapters without it.

[六道仙人]

Nobody has noticed that the comparison between Naruto and Hahsirama is even stronger now? Hell, Tobirama even compared Naruto to his brother concerning their stupidity

[Branden]

Nobody has noticed that the comparison between Naruto and Hahsirama is even stronger now? Hell, Tobirama even compared Naruto to his brother concerning their stupidity

Well Naruto has surpassed the previous hokages..... in a way 

[alexander]

Finally! Plot development! 

 

As to the chapter, I will be really pissed if someone interrupts Obito. This is the chance for Naruto to prove he is not all talk and that he can live without an dream world. I wonder if we will see Sakura version?

[Chatte]

Well Naruto has surpassed the previous hokages..... in a way 

I see what you did there!

[Branden]

Finally! Plot development! 

 

As to the chapter, I will be really pissed if someone interrupts Obito. This is the chance for Naruto to prove he is not all talk and that he can live without an dream world. I wonder if we will see Sakura version?

We already know what Naruto and Sakura's dream world looks like. It's Road To Ninja. I'm just wondering if Madara and Sasuke will have to team up to kill Obito because the mangekyou sharingan might be the only thing that can see through the illusion. That is assuming that the theory of Madara having separate plans from Obito is true.

[Inferno180]

Best part about the chapter was how goofy and quick to rush in naruto was and how kurama messed with him. Kinda like this moments when naruto says he will do great stuff only to have some shortcoming like run out if energy or have no plan. Tobirama makes a great character despite being dead for years. Now with obito in tailed beast mode, I wonder if he will trigger the jubbis final form. Madara is getting ready too, something g can be planted to have the ability to stop the move obito is about to make. Now the Sasuke factor has gotten bigger too aside from the past stuff recently like sakura not trusting him, his real motives, trying to erase the past, etc after seeing how far naruto came he is making it look like when he first left the leaf village again.

As for the other event, well yeah naruto has aspects of both his parents and some nh fans are going crazy despite this stuff not helping nh at all. I mean there is a connection between sakura and Kushina and this comparison minato made didn't do anything to impact who naruto loves now did it? All the past development between ns and the foreshadow and sakura-Kushina parallel is still active. Rather minatos whole deal with naruto and Kushina well speaking storyline stuff, anyone else feel this is just another thing ending about what they did for naruto and how he managed to overcome those trails? Heck we've seen naruto compared to minato more frequently and it's that minato ness within naruto that would still enable him to go with sakura and her kushinaness. Whatever the case things are fine, I mean you cannot have a nh moment without hinata or some direct relation now can you? Ns still holds strong, 632 still in play, minato just sees naruto like his mother for obvious reasons as many others saw naruto like minato, heck minato saw Kushina in sakura, still the only girl compared to her so far for kushinas foreshadow. He saw her in both of them but don't be suprised if minato sees himself in naruto too as others have. Ns still has the development and the sakura-Kushina stuff is still strong because no other girl has been compared to Kushina aside from sakura so far.

If anything I have to say this event wasn't pairing anything as nh fans are leaping on it, nor is it some reference towards 615. I mean minato still has many many things different from hinata. They are completely unrelated in drastic ways. This scene though similar in standing side by side, rather it'd have to do with the father son relationship and for minato to see how naruto inherited kushinas will will and he overcame all the trails and forgave his parents. That's it. Ns still has the strong points and 631 still hasn't been run down as they claim.

[HauntedCake]

I see what you did there!

i didnt

[Codus N]

Despite the plot and interactions becoming more interesting (if not lagging somewhat) there seems to be a noticeable decline in the quality. Now of course there have been some high points throughout this battle that have made me go "wow" but the combat just isn't as enthralling as it was before. I mean there was a perfect opportunity to flesh out this newly learned Kurama Sage Mode yet after the initial assault we're suddenly coming to the Mugen Tsukuyomi being cast. Really doesn't use the prospects of a Jubi jinchuuriki and a senjutsu using jinchuuriki fighting each other to its fullest, does it? Surely I can't be the only one who feels that the fight has become lacklustre in recent chapters.

 

You're not the only one, it's mostly a reason I'm switching over to Bleach and FT. But that said, it's not like the chapter didn't have any entertaining moments. I busted my guts laughing at the Hashirama comparison   

 

Kurama put it best: "Yup, this kid's surpassed Hashirama all right...... in levels of idiocy, that is.

Finally! Plot development! 

 

As to the chapter, I will be really pissed if someone interrupts Obito. This is the chance for Naruto to prove he is not all talk and that he can live without an dream world. I wonder if we will see Sakura version?

 

This whole thing totally reminds me of Digimon 02's last battle. I'm sure I'm not the only one.

[dejavu]

Is it a big hit for NS that Minato sees Kushina in Naruto? (actually Naruto IS MinaKushi’s son so he has both their traits.)

 

so should Naruto end up with himself now? being compared to his mom and all the “find a girl like your mom” since it is implied that he would be able to follow his mother’s wishes for him... oh wait it says a “girl”..

 

as far as i remember that same person who compares Naruto to Kushina is the same person who sees Sakura to be like Kushina.. and so far there is no one else is in the picture. Only Naruto and Sakura. I would advise to not get other characters in the middle of it when in fact they don't belong in the picture. (YET..but right now i stand on this atm)

 

Anyway its not like the parallels are the MAIN pillars of NaruSaku.. its more like an obvious hint and support

 

 

Nobody has noticed that the comparison between Naruto and Hahsirama is even stronger now? Hell, Tobirama even compared Naruto to his brother concerning their stupidity

 

I did. lol in some levels hoho

well Naruto's character is very relateable that he will most likely understands or be like almost anyone.

Edited by hello panda, 04 September 2013 - 12:16 PM.

[lupina]

This whole thing totally reminds me of Digimon 02's last battle. I'm sure I'm not the only one.

 

Or Gurren Laganns last epic fight.

 

 

I wonder if we will see Sakura version?

 

I think we'll get the Versions of all the "important" charakters.

[Canadian_DJ]

ahahha we lost MK/NS parallel is f**cked now since that NH is standing on its own way? xD NH fans never cease to surprise me

while I was reading thag chapter I was like, "haha I know what the hinata fans are gonna do but never mind them.

That was a good chapter. But too short for my taste.

Imo a big event took place during this chapter due to the infinite tsukiyumi being released. Im excited for the next chapter!

[Phantom_999]

It actually has begun.

Let me enlighten you!

 

Apparently we lost our biggest argument

Okay so I don’t know if y’all caught this, but NaruSaku fans always go on and on about parallels, so let’s draw one here. 

They usually compare Sakura to Kushina, saying they are the same. Despite the fact that Naruto isn’t really like Minato personality-wise, they still claim the parallel fits perfectly.

On these two pages, Minato compares Naruto to Kushina. A parallel is made, comparing Naruto to his mother (Kushina) as opposed to Sakura being compared to Kushina. 

If you would like to draw parallels, then it’s safe to assume that in the paralleled relationship that Naruto is expected to have, Naruto will be the brash and bold one, since he is being compared to Kushina. Because of that, his partner will have to be the sky and quiet one. 

Also, Minato was inspired by Kushina’s look of determination and apparant confidence in the ability to do anything. The same way that Hinata is inspired by Naruto in his confidence and determination to never give up. Minato is inspired by Naruto in the same way.

And, for the first time, NaruHina takes over the MinaKush parallel, and the NaruSaku fans lose one of their biggest arguments.

 

Eh, no huge loss. Everyone already said what was needed top be said, but the point is MK still parallels NS due to the fact that Sakura is Naruto's strongest supporter in a sense no? she has unshakable faith in him and and can read him like an open book to his though process. That alone makes them like Kushina and Minato too yeah? Or maybe even better. Actually I take that back, this actually improves our argument because RIGHT HERE Kishi is subtly supporting one of our other main arguments; Naruto and Sakura are Similar and would be perfect for each other because they are so alike. If Minato sees Kushina in Naruto AND in Sakura that makes them exactly the same type of person and would be a great match, similar personality traits and all that. Remember the times before we were given the MK parallel? When we said Sakura  would be perfect for Naruto because her personality is like his? you don't have to panic so much dear. *pats shoulder*

Edited by Phantom_999, 04 September 2013 - 12:25 PM.

[LuckyChi7]

Woah this chapter was pretty insane, It had alot of Nostolgia feels to Part 1 (Comedy and Sasuke's jealousy) in the beginning, but then things were getting pretty sick once Sage Bijuu Mode Naruto hit the battlefield. Plus that ending connecting back to RTN with Project Tsukiyomi just makes a perfect set up for what's to come in the next volume. I still can't believe there's only two chapters in this volume.

 

 

my review for the chapter: 

[六道仙人]

It seems that next two WSJ issues will have a saturday releases so we could have spoilers and chapters of tuesday instead of wedsneday...

[StriderC]

It actually has begun.
Let me enlighten you!
 

Apparently we lost our biggest argument

Okay so I don’t know if y’all caught this, but NaruSaku fans always go on and on about parallels, so let’s draw one here. 
They usually compare Sakura to Kushina, saying they are the same. Despite the fact that Naruto isn’t really like Minato personality-wise, they still claim the parallel fits perfectly.
On these two pages, Minato compares Naruto to Kushina. A parallel is made, comparing Naruto to his mother (Kushina) as opposed to Sakura being compared to Kushina. 
If you would like to draw parallels, then it’s safe to assume that in the paralleled relationship that Naruto is expected to have, Naruto will be the brash and bold one, since he is being compared to Kushina. Because of that, his partner will have to be the sky and quiet one. 
Also, Minato was inspired by Kushina’s look of determination and apparant confidence in the ability to do anything. The same way that Hinata is inspired by Naruto in his confidence and determination to never give up. Minato is inspired by Naruto in the same way.
And, for the first time, NaruHina takes over the MinaKush parallel, and the NaruSaku fans lose one of their biggest arguments.

They can't even peg Minato's character correctly so I can't even with this argument. What's more is they refuse to acknowledge the fact that in the past Naruto has been compared to Minato also. Sakura was just recently shown to parallel Kushina and that was just in her personality. Hinata isn't the only one to look up to Narutp and get inspired by his determination nor is she the only one to propell off of it. It's just that that's pretty much ALL that's going on with her so it's an even bigger with her character than it is with Sakura. Sakura propells off of being of assistance to Naruto and she too gets inspired by him. Let me stop here before I start rambling. Lol

[Luna]

On page 13 in the bottom  right corner is that sasuke's hand or Sakura's  because sasuke isn't wearing black. I'm lost.

 

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Edited by Baka chan, 04 September 2013 - 01:15 PM.