Provide the panels about it,
Page 17, chapter #632. Sakura mentions that she doesn't have to furnish any chakra any chakra for transformation ninjutsu. It's stated nowhere that the seal is the reason for her strength increasing.
the only thing she says is about releasing her seal which enhance her strenght
I'm asking you to give me a quote that confirms this relationship between her strength and the Yin Seal. I reinforced the fact that Sakura's strength is independently achieved. If you want to refute that claim, you need evidence that contradicts the information provided.
and the range of her attack which is
How does the seal cause this? I already called out the nonexistence of your claim that the strength is a result of the seal. Sakura's combat abilities is exclusively taijutsu. Her available chakra that no longer has to be siphoned, not the seal's, has greater radial effect on the immediate area around. But it's not to the degree that her strength could compensate for long ranged ninjutsu attacks.
almost similar to the benefits of the sage mode, not all of the benefits of the sage mode she get ofc,
They have nothing in common besides being two sources of chakra. The seal is a reservoir, Sage Mode is a state of being with confirmed enhancements. Your only worthwhile argument which was the strength increase was already shown to be a result of Sakura's own chakra, not the seal's. Statistical enhancements haven't been shown to exist with the Yin Seal as they do with Sage Mode.
like i said on my previous post, i just dont get why she would have SSM to improve the stats that she already got improved with the seal,
It doesn't increase any of her stats. I don't know how people got this impression that the seal increases strength or speed when an explanation was given that indicates the source of strength being Sakura's available chakra. Heightened radial effect is the result of that independently acquired chakra used in strength.
she doesnt have the senses, reflexes and etc...
So basically everything that defines Sage mode doesn't exist with the Yin Seal, including the already disproven strength enhancement which you left unsubstantiated.
but she got enhanced strenght and an increased range of her attack.
Which I already described twice now as being the result of her no longer having to allocate chakra.
The amount of chakra never increased the attributes of character,
Every single ability that relies on quantitative chakra levels would suggest otherwise. From Naruto's ability to use mass shadow clones to Kakakshi's Kamui, Onoki's massive Jinton (which was being enhanced by Tsunade pumping her chakra into the jutsu), to Sakura's strength which for the time now was shown to be the result of her own stamina.
Kakashi has way less chakra than Naruto and their streght was the same during the begining of the shippuuden.[/b]
As arguable as that may be, I would be digressing if I were to go off on a tangent comparing Naruto and Kakashi's musculature. Neither of them enhance their striking power with chakra because they primarily rely on their ninjutsu to fight.
To be fair, they would be disappointed even if Kishi wrote in the best plot ever with Sakura gaining the Slug Sage in the most convincing way. She would still be bashed into the ground for it. So if you're damned if you do and damned if you don't...why not just go for it?
It's not the fact that she has Sage Mode that's the issue (at least for some us), it's how she's somehow more qualified to undertake and master a school of Sage Mode (one that would presumably necessitate having a stronger body than the others because of the nature of slugs' abilities)than someone like Orochimaru who has large reserves of chakra and a genetically modified body.
With everything that we know of Orochimaru, his body's ability to regenerate and maneuever in ways that a normal person couldn't mangage, his tenacity for learning new jutsu, and his large reserves of chakra, how could it be rationalised that Sakura would achieve what even a genius with far more advantages like Orochimaru couldn't? That's the main issue with this theory.
As for her gaining Sage Mode, I really don't understand how it'd be contrived and forced...
It's mostly the lack of any prior foreshadowing that people have gripes with. I described other possibly valid reasons for why it would seem far-fetched with the Orochimaru comparison and insufficient body type.
Sakura has bigger reserves of chakra
I'll quote a part of one of my previous posts that describes why this isn't too important on the issue of chakra quantity.
The chakra in her seal comes from her own reserves. Keep in mind that when Fukasaku was describing the gathering process for sage energy, a diagram was made showing how natural energy is put into the chakra moulding process. Hence the development of a more powerful type of chakra. Sage Mode is the coalescence of physical stamina, spiritual energy, and natural energy. You're mixing those three fundamental ingredients together.
Given that Sakura's seal contains premixed stamina and energy, without nature's force having been added, it would stand to reason that it would be unusable for SM. Think of it how you would mixing colours together. You want to create black but you only mixed blue and red together. Instead of black, you made purple.
and she clearly has access to it 24/7.
For how much she has left in the seal. It's unknown what will happen once that reservoir is depleted.
If she didn't, then explain Tsunade and her access to the seal. I don't remember but wasn't it stated that she had access while healing the army??
Accessibility isn't the issue. I explained what the major concerns were above.
I feel that Sakura definitely has the power to gain Sage mode and it'd be completely understandable and not some asspull.
Well if you truly feel that way then good for you. I think it would require quite a bit of reaching to come to the conclusion that she could obtain it with everything that has been described as essential for SM but that's just me.
I dont think so.
Sage mod is pratically mixing your chakra with natural chakra, and there's no prerequisites about it,
Fukasaku and Kabuto's words contradict what your saying. In fact, the Curse Seal seems to require a specific body type as well. You remember what Orochimaru said about the fatality rate of those implanted with the Curse Seal? Only 10% survived. The reason for this being that natural energy itself, not just SM, needs a durable and capable body that can handle the effects of the world's force.
also the "large" chakra pool also doesnt make much sense, since Jiraiya wasnt neither an Uzumaki or a Senju.
You don't need to be an Uzumaki or Senju to acquire Sage Mode. They just provide an advantage. I'm sure if they wanted to Kisame and Raikage could possibly learn SM. Actually, I wouldn't be surprised to learn that Kisame had an aquatic variant of senjutsu considering his abnormal skin pigment, eye markings, and affiliation with sharks.
I see it as forced because the seal no matter what it is, it's not a prerequisite for a sage mode.
This is true. If the seal were to somehow give a back door means for SM, it would be seen as an "unjust" means at least by those who are critical of Sakura. Or a pretension trick as Kabuto described it. Not that honour matters.
In the end sakura always had the power to learn sage mode but it's too late already.
Sage Mode can't be obtained by just anyone. This has been proven time and time again. Not even the weaker imitative jutsu like Curse Seal is without its dangers. If you don't meet the physical and energy requirements, you'll die in the learning process.
True.
I want to say that SSM for Sakura isn't a surprise. The requirements could be revealed easily at the same moment or later on. Kishi with his pen can just make it happen with a reasonable way like he did with Naruto's powers. It's not something far from being believable to do. She's a main character and a heroine, so readers can expect easily and won't be surprised with a SSM for Sakura like we are doing now.
I hope that includes an explanation for why Sakura is more qualified than Orochimaru. Out of the many characters who have had their fighting skills fleshed out, she's probably received the least amount of damage. It's difficult to assess how resilient she is when the panels she's in usually consist of character interaction or medical duties.
Edited by Atheck, 29 August 2013 - 08:30 PM.
