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[sushi.]

 

Except that I find this odd and so out of the blue. Why? because Obito is trying to trash talk Naruto. What reason does he have to bring up Rin, who has no personal connection whatsoever to Naruto, in front of him?

 

The first translation makes more sense to me, to be honest. We'll have to wait for the Japanese raws to determine the truth. Even if it is true, I'll still find it odd and out of place. It would make more sense if he brought her up after Naruto learned his story from Minato or Kakashi.  

Obito doesn't need to know he's targeting Naruto's girl. If only he had heard the girlfriend comment.

 

Sakura is the head medic, that's enough reason to target her. If Obito wants to taunt Naruto, there couldn't be a better way =)

 

I don't think Minato or Kakashi will tell him the story on the battlefield. It would make more sense for Kakashi to tell him the details after the war, in a medic tent or something.

[TouKen4Life3g]

 

Except that I find this odd and so out of the blue. Why? because Obito is trying to trash talk Naruto. What reason does he have to bring up Rin, who has no personal connection whatsoever to Naruto, in front of him?

 

The first translation makes more sense to me since it brings up Naruto's parents, to be honest. We'll have to wait for the Japanese raws to determine the truth. Even if it is true, I'll still find it odd and out of place. It would make more sense if he brought her up after Naruto learned his story from Minato or Kakashi.  

He was bashing more on Minato and now Naruto connected himself to the situation since it is his birthday. That said again, it can happen at any rate. It depends on how it can bring it up. Obito is more focus about a man who did get his wish yet failing at keeping it up (lost his students, Kushina, etc.). Rin will be brought up when Obito probably close to his end. It will happen.

[Codus N]

Obito doesn't need to know he's targeting Naruto's girl. If only he had heard the girlfriend comment.

 

Sakura is the head medic, that's enough reason to target her. If Obito wants to taunt Naruto, there couldn't be a better way =)

 

I don't think Minato or Kakashi will tell him the story on the battlefield. It would make more sense for Kakashi to tell him the details after the war, in a medic tent or something.

 

That's not what I was getting at. I was talking about the issue of why, of all people, he brought up Rin in front of Naruto, who has no personal connection to him at all. 

 

He already did taunt him with Neji. Didn't work. Taunting him about his parents makes more sense.

 

BTW, you do realize that Obito was in the Kamui the entire time while the Hokages arrived.

 

He was bashing more on Minato and now Naruto connected himself to the situation since it is his birthday. That said again, it can happen at any rate. It depends on how it can bring it up. Obito is more focus about a man who did get his wish yet failing at keeping it up (lost his students, Kushina, etc.). Rin will be brought up when Obito probably close to his end. It will happen.

 

I have no doubt the Rin parallel will come up somehow. I just hope Kishi writes it in a way that doesn't seem rushed and awkward. Although, with his current track record.... yeah, like that'll happen. With the way he's been writing the arc for the past few 10 chapters, I'm not putting much stock in that.

 

That said, I'm still not overly fond of the Hokages resurrected and all. But I would make an exception for Minato since Naruto's birthday is coming up, this means that Naruto would be able to celebrate his birthday with his father for the first time ever. I can definitely see when it's all said and done, Minato is the last one to fade. But not before seeing him sing his son the birthday song for the first time.

[sushi.]

 

That's not what I was getting at. I was talking about the issue of why, of all people, he brought up Rin in front of Naruto, who has no personal connection to him at all. 

 

He already did taunt him with Neji. Didn't work. Taunting him about his parents makes more sense.

 

BTW, you do realize that Obito was in the Kamui the entire time while the Hokages arrived.

 

 

I have no doubt the Rin parallel will come up somehow. I just hope Kishi writes it in a way that doesn't seem rushed and awkward. Although, with his current track record.... yeah, like that'll happen. With the way he's been writing the arc for the past few 10 chapters, I'm not putting much stock in that.

I misunderstood because 4life's post was about Obito targeting Sakura.

 

But if he targets Sakura for being a medic, which is not unlikely because we all know Obito is a master strategist - it might be what triggers a Rin parallel. Which might again make Obito bring her up.

 

Bolded; Me too..me too. Since it's bound to happen, it doesn't hurt making predictions, but it's hard to imagine the moment to be natural. But I'm not a writer, hopefully Kishi can pull it off somehow.

Edited by sushi., 16 August 2013 - 05:25 PM.

[James S Cassidy]

OMG, I can feelz the luvs. LUVS EVERYWHERE!!!!

 

Seriously though, it is interesting how Kishi is playing this. I am also happy that again Sasuke is going to be side-lined. "Only Nature chakra can hurt him." Well, looks like you are useless Sasuke. You can't do anything with all your eye-powers and such. I am happy that Sasuke for once is shown that he might not be the all powerful being he thinks he is.

[Sakamaki Izayoi]

 

I have no doubt the Rin parallel will come up somehow. I just hope Kishi writes it in a way that doesn't seem rushed and awkward. Although, with his current track record.... yeah, like that'll happen. With the way he's been writing the arc for the past few 10 chapters, I'm not putting much stock in that.

 

That was the best comment ever.

[James S Cassidy]

That was the best comment ever.

Nah, not really. Codus, you haven't really been happy with anything in the manga since....well, for a long time. So it is not surprising that you still fault Kishimoto and his manga even now.

While I can agree that some parts were hastily written and such, I also see some stuff that I felt was written well. It's not like Kishi didn't write poor in the past before the Kage Summit....which is where a lot of people seem to think is where "It all went down hill."

Like I said many times before, the story is actually pretty good for the most part and the only troubling parts is when Sasuke is written into the scenes. I could also argue Hinata's scenes being the same, but then I get called out and told that "You're just saying that cause you're a Sakura fanboy."

Reading the manga from the beginning, it actually is a pretty tight story for the most part. At least when it comes to Naruto and most of the other cast.

 

[Sakamaki Izayoi]

Nah, not really. Codus, you haven't really been happy with anything in the manga since....well, for a long time. So it is not surprising that you still fault Kishimoto and his manga even now.

While I can agree that some parts were hastily written and such, I also see some stuff that I felt was written well. It's not like Kishi didn't write poor in the past before the Kage Summit....which is where a lot of people seem to think is where "It all went down hill."

Like I said many times before, the story is actually pretty good for the most part and the only troubling parts is when Sasuke is written into the scenes. I could also argue Hinata's scenes being the same, but then I get called out and told that "You're just saying that cause you're a Sakura fanboy."

Reading the manga from the beginning, it actually is a pretty tight story for the most part. At least when it comes to Naruto and most of the other cast.

 

He said how Kishi is writing recently and i do agree.

Madara "screw them we are just edos" man....

Edited by Dαrkrєrsŧ, 16 August 2013 - 05:45 PM.

[Hanabi]

:( It's a mistranslation. Obito did not mention about Rin.

 

Obito: Do you know what day it is, tomorrow?
Naruto: …
Obito: It’s the anniversary of Minato and Kushina’s deaths! The day both your parents died!
Obito: Listen up. When people die, everything about them comes to an end…this world…
Naruto: That’s right…
Naruto: Then tomorrow is…
Naruto: My birthday as well.

Minato: !
Minato: …
Naruto: You listen up as well. This world is not coming to an end.
Obito: …
Naruto: Because I still exist in this world!
Naruto: Let’s go, pops!

 

The chinese names for kushina and minato are so different lol no wonder the person got it wrong.

Edited by Hanabi, 16 August 2013 - 05:46 PM.

[rocci]

Oh btw I feel we will get another parallel and this time come from hashimadamito.

[TouKen4Life3g]

OMG, I can feelz the luvs. LUVS EVERYWHERE!!!!

 

Seriously though, it is interesting how Kishi is playing this. I am also happy that again Sasuke is going to be side-lined. "Only Nature chakra can hurt him." Well, looks like you are useless Sasuke. You can't do anything with all your eye-powers and such. I am happy that Sasuke for once is shown that he might not be the all powerful being he thinks he is.

I'll be lying if I don't say happy Sasuke is being placed aside. I thought he was more better off to fight Madara, but he is busy with Hashirama and all. Still, Obito got nothing to note with Sasuke. Yeah, yeah, Uchiha this and that, but honestly, he doesn't care, what matters is about achieving those dreams.

 

 

:( It's a mistranslation

 

Obito: Do you know what day it is, tomorrow?
Naruto: …
Obito: It’s the anniversary of Minato and Kushina’s deaths! The day both your parents died!
Obito: Listen up. When people die, everything about them comes to an end…this world…
Naruto: That’s right…
Naruto: Then tomorrow is…
Naruto: My birthday as well.

Minato: !
Minato: …
Naruto: You listen up as well. This world is not coming to an end.
Obito: …
Naruto: Because I still exist in this world!
Naruto: Let’s go, pops!

 

The chinese names for kushina and minato are so different lol no wonder the person got it wrong.

Man, when is the release of the actual chapter? This mixed up is getting mixed up. Lol.

[Paptala]

It's a bit weird that the senjutsu was dropped so quickly, though I understand that in order to combat the bijuu damas (is that what they are?), that form would be more appropriate - by that logic, Kirabi should also be used to combat them as well, no?

 

I was hoping to see Sakura in this chapter, but I guess there isn't much point in seeing her healing, molding chakra, or asking Hinata questions again; she'll likely return when Kishi is ready to have her rejoin the action.

 

I really like knowing that it will be Naruto's birthday tomorrow in manga time.  Seems like Kishimoto is setting up for some big things to happen soon after pointing that out.  I wouldn't be surprised if the war came to an end at that point (the whole war has only been several days long in manga time, correct?).  Like others, I hope that we see something special between Naruto and Sakura that day as well.

 

We've been speculating that the end of the war would be a good time for Kishimoto to have a NaruSaku moment between the two of them, and if it so happens that it happens to be on Naruto's birthday as well, and right before his fight with Sasuke, I'd say the chances of actually getting some sort of significant moment between these two at that point went up quite a bit.

 

As far as the pacing during the war arc goes, I don't really care too much for it.  There were somethings that were focused on that I thought didn't need to be while there were somethings that were offpaneled that really should have been shown, and some great opportunities missed.  Seriously, which reader actually wanted to see the leader of the Samurai fight over seeing Kakashi raging, or seeing Sakura go up against Chiyo (the lost opportunity here still burns )?

 

That isn't to say there haven't been moments in the war that I enjoyed, but I do think it could have been written better than it was.

[TouKen4Life3g]

This arc does seem to be about a lot of waiting. When it's all done, I will recap and see the overall arc.

[Inferno180]

Soon as I saw news beyond my post with Raws, I stopped reading, but I hear everyone is happy that something big is going to come up on our side. No spoilers please.

Sadly I may be away this weekend and not be able to read it until Sunday afternoon, I might be going camping with friends.

Well guess my ipad is good for another thing, plants vs zombies 2 just came out and it's free. That can hold me over. But yeah I'm excited for a new chapter too.

[sushi.]

Soon as I saw news beyond my post with Raws, I stopped reading, but I hear everyone is happy that something big is going to come up on our side. No spoilers please.

Sadly I may be away this weekend and not be able to read it until Sunday afternoon, I might be going camping with friends.

Well guess my ipad is good for another thing, plants vs zombies 2 just came out and it's free. That can hold me over. But yeah I'm excited for a new chapter too.

You can download an app called mangarock. I always use it because it's easier to read since it's made for iphones etc. Takes like 5 min to read anyway, I did that on summercamp when going to bed.

 

Btw, what we're talking about might not come until 50 chapters later. XD

Edited by sushi., 16 August 2013 - 08:00 PM.

[Sakamaki Izayoi]

 

That's not what I was getting at. I was talking about the issue of why, of all people, he brought up Rin in front of Naruto, who has no personal connection to him at all. 

 

He already did taunt him with Neji. Didn't work. Taunting him about his parents makes more sense.

 

BTW, you do realize that Obito was in the Kamui the entire time while the Hokages arrived.

 

 

I have no doubt the Rin parallel will come up somehow. I just hope Kishi writes it in a way that doesn't seem rushed and awkward. Although, with his current track record.... yeah, like that'll happen. With the way he's been writing the arc for the past few 10 chapters, I'm not putting much stock in that.

 

That said, I'm still not overly fond of the Hokages resurrected and all. But I would make an exception for Minato since Naruto's birthday is coming up, this means that Naruto would be able to celebrate his birthday with his father for the first time ever. I can definitely see when it's all said and done, Minato is the last one to fade. But not before seeing him sing his son the birthday song for the first time.

Anyway,  Obito is more like testing Naruto, he tested Naruto first with his friends, he then killed off Neji and it didnt work, second he started attacking Naruto's dream which was to become hokage, showing to him that all the kages are trash, third he start taunting Naruto why after living a miserable life he still wants to save the world, his parents are dead, it's not working too, the last would targeting Naruto's heart, so it's clearly going to be Sakura next, but i dont know how he will get to that, i think it will be rushed dont see reason why she would leave her position but it's kinda obvious she will have to play damsel in distress.

Edited by Dαrkrєrsŧ, 16 August 2013 - 08:18 PM.

[六道仙人]

mmh... that's about Rin's death on the same day of naruto's birthday and his parents' death... I strongly believe that it was just a mistranslation from chinese readers... They just confused Kushina's kanji with that Rin's... Besides it would sound a little weird if Obito speaked about rin's death to Naruto that he didn't know her and Obito was just badmouthing Naruto, isn't?

Edited by 六道仙人, 16 August 2013 - 08:40 PM.

[sushi.]

mmh... that's about Rin's death on the same day of naruto's birthday and his parents' death... I strongly believe that it was just a mistranslation from chinese readers...

If not - poor Kakashi! That one is a bit too late, but what if he came home to dead Minato sensei and Kushina after all that? :(

 

In the Kushina flashback, Kakashi looked a bit taller and had another attire, so I think it was a year later or so.

Edited by sushi., 16 August 2013 - 08:41 PM.

[TouKen4Life3g]

So Rin and Kushina are not dead at the same day. On the bright side, the wonder of why Obito doing all this in Naruto's pov continues...

[Sakamaki Izayoi]

So Rin and Kushina are not dead at the same day. On the bright side, the wonder of why Obito doing all this in Naruto's pov continues...

At least he confirms Naruto's pov at the very end, no romance for Hinata.