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[Miiami]

 

uh, not...it will be released next wedsneday, as usual

No, on Monday.

[redragon88]

In fact, this reminds me when Sakura appeared in chapter 628, the first chapter of volume 66. This time she appeared again after 2 chapters of absence in this chapter 638, the first chapter of volume 67... Dunno it's a coicidence or not...

 

I think Sakura was just there for exposition purposes. Still, I do hope that she gets involved in the fight and not be focusing on just healing. Now that she also has her seal it would be hypocritical of Kishi to make Tsunade get into the fight while making Sakura stay back, not to mention it would go against the ongoing neo sannin development.

 

Kishi literally has no excuse to make Sakura stay back while Tsunade goes forward.

[Inferno180]

After I move and have some time [moving to Cluj] maybe I will have time to write that post about how RTN will come to play in cannon manga.

 

As for Sakura's appearances, I am sure it's not a coincidence.

 

As for Juubi/Obito... Let me paste you a thing. It was kinda foreshadowed in the anime, in a filler episode.

 

I found this really interesting thread on other Naruto forum about Tobi and thought I should share with you.
This guys is so observant, lol.

During one of the filler arcs, Tobi stopped at a Dango shop with Deidara, and said this.

“Ichibi, Nibi, Sanbi, boku wa Tobi!” while referring to the tailed beasts.

It translates to: “Ichibi, Nibi, Sanbi, and I’m Tobi!”

Tobi’s plan for world domination is to revive the Juubi, or “Ten-Tailed Beast”.

But he also said that he was trying to achieve a complete form of his own.

Here’s the neat part:
When counting from one to ten in Japanese, it goes:
Ichi, Ni, San, Yon, Go, Roku, Shichi, Hachi, Kyuu, Juu.

When counting objects, it goes differently:
Hitotsu, Futatsu, Mittsu, Yottsu, Itsusu, Muttsu, Nanatsu, Yatsu, Kokonotsu, To.

The tailed beasts get their names by combining the character for the number of tails they have with the character for“bi”.

That means that Tobi’s statement to Deidara can actually be translated as:
“One-Tailed, Two-Tailed, Three-Tailed, and I’m Ten-Tailed!”

 

I kinda feel I should post something about parallelism because as there are arguments claiming NS only uses parallels as proof ( we have a lot of proof without these) mainly some go thinking that parallels do not matter or exist, they do exist in the series, one easy one is Naruto's childhood, Gaara's childhood, and Bee's childhood, Gaara was the worst Bee had the best. These influenced how others would act upon them.

 

Other series constantly do this too I mean in ATLA, an obvious parallel is Aang and Zuko to their ancestors, Roku and Sozin. The events of the war happened inversely. Roku and Sozin, born 82 years before the war began, started as friends in an age of peace and harmony. As they grew up though, Sozin as the fire lord became ambitious to spread his country and give it more power, Roku disliked the idea and told him the 4 nations had to remain as that, 4. As they grew older Sozin tried to take control of earth kingdom towns but Roku caught on and stopped him. Eventually one night, a volcano erupted on Roku's home island, he could not save everyone himself, Sozin helped but Roku was wounded in the event and Sozin left him to die seeing that without the avatar, he could do whatever he wanted. Sozin then spent 12 years before the war began to prepare, in these 12 years aang was born and grew but at age 12, a day before the war started, after finding out he was the avatar, was scared and ran away, he and his bison appa were caught in a storm and frozen within a case of ice for 100 years in order to survive. In the present, Zuko had spent much of the series as Aangs rival and opponent. He wanted to catch him for his own gain and resorting his brithright to the throne. As the journey went on though, Zuko learned that what he once wanted is not what he thought it would be and learned of the relation of Roku and Sozin, discovering himself to be Roku's great grandson. In the end he aligns himself with Aang, they have issues of trust at first but it gets better, then they end up ending the war and restarting an age of peace for the world until Korra's time. Where Roku and Sozin began as friends in a great age of peace, it all turned to war and betrayl in the end, it was the opposite for Aang and Zuko, they began as enemies in a time of war and wound up ending the war as friends and bringing back the peace, many series bring parallelism, this is just one of the easiest to say. These things exist in Naruto too, a lot, without just being pairing related.

[kidNinja]

Do you think Hinata will have more role in the upcoming chapter?
Maybe she will become naruto's rin :(

 

 

I was going to ignore this but it irked me too much.

 

What would possess you to think something like this? If you have actually been reading the story this whole time, you would know that this wouldn't happen because it isn't set up this way.

 

Sometimes, I don't know why I even bother. smh

Edited by kidNinja, 09 July 2013 - 12:25 PM.

[六道仙人]

No, on Monday.

 

Oh but I was just speaking about the next jp chapter release :/
 

[T XD]

I liked this chapter so much. The battle is heating up even more, and I think  very interesting things are going to happen in the upcoming chapters.

 

The battle with Obito will have to involve every single person, as much as it can be for anyone to fight, to go in this fight. But, some are going to stand against Madara at the same time, only if Kishi made the fight against Obito then the next is Madara.

 

The upcoming chapters are going to be epic especially against Obito. Brace yourselves guys cause I think there's a good possibility of something very important is going to happen after the next few upcoming chapters ;D

 

By the way, I think Madara's next plan is going to involve someone or himself. But, I think it's more towards himself having to activate the moon plan or surprising us with something.

Edited by T XD, 09 July 2013 - 12:27 PM.

[Miiami]

 

Oh but I was just speaking about the next jp chapter release :/
 

This is the next release. Which day now it is? 09. Next chapter on 15 which is Monday. Or I don't understand what you're talking about. Or do they get the chapters we get later ?

Edited by Miiami, 09 July 2013 - 12:32 PM.

[tricksie]

I wish Minato still looked like Minato. I'm not crazy about the Minato-as-Naruto look. I like him looking like Naruto's dad, not as some powerful cohort of Naruto's.

[六道仙人]

wait, i'm a little confused xD... The chapter is out today because the 15th Monday is the Marine Day in Japan so they just anticipated the WSJ release to Saturday in Japan, in order to avoid the holiday on Monday 15th. That's because we had an early release this week. But if you was talking about the release of Shounen Alpha then it's ok. I don't know their schedule on this week sooo...

[Branden]

Imagine if Madara summons the Edo sage of six paths into battle....

[Atheck]

This chapter was essentially a set-up for the battle that is about to rage between the Hokages and Tobi. I thought perhaps that they would choose to contend with Madara first because of the unique nature behind his affiliations with the village, however, that's obviously not what Kishi is intending for them. The Jubi's jinchuuriki does take precedence since it is the more powerful adversary; by Hashirama's own admittance Tobi has become the strongest and possibly the most dangerous individual on the battlefield. Granted, this is a man who doesn't have a full understanding of what Madara is capable of due to the modifications made to his body, but even that would be insufficient to compensate for the monumentally large statistical and ability enhancements granted by the Jubi.

Sakura actually made a reemargance after two chapters riddled with off-screen inactivity. Her role was minor compared to the focused cast of this chapter but her command to Hinata did provide exposition to the reader for what was occurring exactly when Tobi began to assimilate the Jubi. Speaking of Hinata, it was irritating to have her face reappear whilst all of the other rookies remain as obfuscated stick figures in the background. If a shinobi with the Byakugan was required for reconnaissance, despite it standing before everyone inside the barrier as a conspicuously large mass, then why would Sakura not make the request to the more seasoned Hiashi who wields superior abilities? Was Hinata just because of her familiarity to Sakura? Or is she the superior scout and we just have no confirmation of the status of her perceptual abilities? Regardless, this exposition could have easily been given without Hinata's interference. All this does is reinforce people's sentiments that her role is of exclusively greater importance than the other rookies'.

Despite a few particular characters' presence being unwillingly burdened on us it was nice to see Sakura again. Like I said, her role this chapter was to act as the initigator for this illustration of what became of the Jubi. There wasn't much for her to do but any contribution or appearance that Sakura makes is welcomed. Oh, and despite what the SS proponents may argue, Sasuke's continuation of Sakura's sentence was only used in a contextually platonic manner. It was intended to dramatise the upcoming reveal of the Juubi's jinchuuriki. Their eyes weren't even trained onto each other. Sakura's broadened eyes and flabbergasted expression were fixated on the Jubi whilst Sasuke appeared to be glaring exasperatedly towards it. That argument has as much validity to itself as Tobi sneaking up behind Konan and finishing her sentence being an indication of TobKon.

I must say, Tobi underwent quite the aesthetic change during this chapter. He's lost his footwear, the upper segment of his mantle has been completely destroyed, and now it seems that the Zetsu tissue composing half of his body was either replaced or its remote manipulation properties have been negated by the Jubi's chakra, returning it to harmless flesh. The markings we saw on Rikudou Sennin have appeared on his back. Although these nine insectoid protrusions weren't visible on the Sage and unlike Tobi the markings were on his apparel, not the flesh on his back. He looks primal. He's extremely powerful, but primal at the same time. This could be the influence of the Jubi who is a force of nature. Logically, its chakra would have elements of natural energy, an unstable force requiring large amounts of stringent training to properly control. As we saw with Juugo and the various other Curse Seal users who dabbled in senjutsu, their personalities undergo a dramatic change with increased physical aggressiveness and an inability to control their emotions. Tobi's loss of consciousness could be attributed to that reason, except it's much more severe in his case. The Curse Seal wielders could maintain some level of consciousness but Tobi is unable to.

This may just be my personal imagination but the fact that the nine magatama appeared on Tobi's skin in his midsection is reminiscent of a Japanese tale about a canine that killed and eviscerated a badger. A magatama was revealed to have been laying inside its body that was removed and later enshrined. It's probably just a coincidence though. On another note, the spiraling eye that appeared resembles the Uzumaki crest somewhat. Maybe the Sage is indeed an Uzumaki as some people were theorizing. Or maybe it's just the emblem of the Rinnegan-like eye that the Jubi has. But that wouldn't account for the character-like marking beneath it. Does anyone know what that is?

Great to see Killer Bee as well. His role was comparatively minor also but such a large amount of time has elapsed since we last saw of him that it doesn't matter. Here's hoping that KB assumes a more significant role in the future.

So Madara does have a fail-safe after all. His nonchalant reaction last chapter wasn't misplaced as some of us presumed. What exactly is this "trump card" that he's referring to? Could it be Banbutsu Sozo? IIRC that technique was what the Sage used to divide the Jubi into nine components. At the moment, Tobi is as much of a threat to Madara as he is to the Alliance. Either Madara is going to assist the Alliance in defeating the jinchuuriki, with ulterior motives of his own, naturally. Or he's going to act as a third party combatant and carry out his own mission. No matter what Tobi is going to be stopped. He doesn't have the mental capacity to appropriately control his actions or create the Mugen Tsukuyomi. Much like the Jubi itself, Tobi has become an animalistic creature driven by its desire for self-preservation.

All in all, an impressive chapter for what it was. A badass appearance of Tobi as the jinchuuriki and Sakura emerges after two chapters of nonexistence. We need to see more from the self-proclaimed heroine but I'm hoping that Kishi will have something important for Sakura in this fight.

Edited by Atheck, 09 July 2013 - 01:27 PM.

[rocci]

Imagine if Madara summons the Edo sage of six paths into battle....

Fandom will explode for sure.

[Slextrem]

That escalated quickly. At least the final battle involving the Juubi is looking promising. I'm putting my money on Minato sealing his Kyuubi chakra in Naruto so that he can take out Juubito. I can't wait!

[Liu bie]

It is safe to say that Kishi doesn't need Narusaku or Naruhina( if revives) for now to keep the fans following the manga and  is enough with the incoming battle?

[Kakashi-Sensei]

Great chapter , im a bit dissapointed about Tobirama and Hashirama. These guys are supposed to be gods of Shinobi, and they are out with one blow. I know that Juubito is super strong , but i would have like to see at least a fight between them...

 

And Hinata's face with is byakugans is so ugly special 

 

As for next chapter , we will get it as usual next wednesday or an other early release on monday ?

[T XD]

Hashirama and Tobirama that got the blow are clones ? Though, there weas no smoke if they were clones.

Edited by T XD, 09 July 2013 - 01:58 PM.

[rocci]

I was going to ignore this but it irked me too much.
 
What would possess you to think something like this? If you have actually been reading the story this whole time, you would know that this wouldn't happen because it isn't set up this way.
 
Sometimes, I don't know why I even bother. smh

I ask that because I afraid kishi will make Hinata as rin parallel thus make her the key for obito tnj.
And if that really happen, than I will drop this manga. I can deal with any bs kishi throw in this manga, but not that kind of thing.
I am sorry if there are make you upset.

[Inferno180]

This chapter was essentially a set-up for the battle that is about to rage between the Hokages and Tobi. I thought perhaps that they would choose to contend with Madara first because of the unique nature behind his affiliations with the village, however, that's obviously not what Kishi is intending for them. The Jubi's jinchuuriki does take precedence since it is the more powerful adversary; by Hashirama's own admittance Tobi has become the strongest and possibly the most dangerous individual on the battlefield. Granted, this is a man who doesn't have a full understanding of what Madara is capable of due to the modifications made to his body, but even that would be insufficient to compensate for the monumentally large statistical and ability enhancements granted by the Jubi.Sakura actually made a reemargance after two chapters riddled with off-screen inactivity. Her role was minor compared to the focused cast of this chapter but her command to Hinata did provide exposition to the reader for what was occurring exactly when Tobi began to assimilate the Jubi. Speaking of Hinata, it was irritating to have her face reappear whilst all of the other rookies remain as obfuscated stick figures in the background. If a shinobi with the Byakugan was required for reconnaissance, despite it standing before everyone inside the barrier as a conspicuously large mass, then why would Sakura not make the request to the more seasoned Hiashi who wields superior abilities? Was Hinata just because of her familiarity to Sakura? Or is she the superior scout and we just have no confirmation of the status of her perceptual abilities? Regardless, this exposition could have easily been given without Hinata's interference. All this does is reinforce people's sentiments that her role is of exclusively greater importance than the other rookies'.Despite a few particular characters' presence being unwillingly burdened on us it was nice to see Sakura again. Like I said, her role this chapter was to act as the initigator for this illustration of what became of the Jubi. There wasn't much for her to do but any contribution or appearance that Sakura makes is welcomed. Oh, and despite what the SS proponents may argue, Sasuke's continuation of Sakura's sentence was only used in a contextually platonic manner. It was intended to dramatise the upcoming reveal of the Juubi's jinchuuriki. Their eyes weren't even trained onto each other. Sakura's broadened eyes and flabbergasted expression were fixated on the Jubi whilst Sasuke appeared to be glaring exasperatedly towards it. That argument has as much validity to itself as Tobi sneaking up behind Konan and finishing her sentence being an indication of TobKon.I must say, Tobi underwent quite the aesthetic change during this chapter. He's lost his footwear, the upper segment of his mantle has been completely destroyed, and now it seems that the Zetsu tissue composing half of his body was either replaced or its remote manipulation properties have been negated by the Jubi's chakra, returning it to harmless flesh. The markings we saw on Rikudou Sennin have appeared on his back. Although these nine insectoid protrusions weren't visible on the Sage and unlike Tobi the markings were on his apparel, not the flesh on his back. He looks primal. He's extremely powerful, but primal at the same time. This could be the influence of the Jubi who is a force of nature. Logically, its chakra would have elements of natural energy, an unstable force requiring large amounts of stringent training to properly control. As we saw with Juugo and the various other Curse Seal users who dabbled in senjutsu, their personalities undergo a dramatic change with increased physical aggressiveness and an inability to control their emotions. Tobi's loss of consciousness could be attributed to that reason, except it's much more severe in his case. The Curse Seal wielders could maintain some level of consciousness but Tobi is unable to.This may just be my personal imagination but the fact that the nine magatama appeared on Tobi's skin in his midsection is reminiscent of a Japanese tale about a canine that killed and eviscerated a badger. A magatama was revealed to have been laying inside its body that was removed and later enshrined. It's probably just a coincidence though. On another note, the spiraling eye that appeared resembles the Uzumaki crest somewhat. Maybe the Sage is indeed an Uzumaki as some people were theorizing. Or maybe it's just the emblem of the Rinnegan-like eye that the Jubi has. But that wouldn't account for the character-like marking beneath it. Does anyone know what that is?Great to see Killer Bee as well. His role was comparatively minor also but such a large amount of time has elapsed since we last saw of him that it doesn't matter. Here's hoping that KB assumes a more significant role in the future.So Madara does have a fail-safe after all. His nonchalant reaction last chapter wasn't misplaced as some of us presumed. What exactly is this "trump card" that he's referring to? Could it be Banbutsu Sozo? IIRC that technique was what the Sage used to divide the Jubi into nine components. At the moment, Tobi is as much of a threat to Madara as he is to the Alliance. Either Madara is going to assist the Alliance in defeating the jinchuuriki, with ulterior motives of his own, naturally. Or he's going to act as a third party combatant and carry out his own mission. No matter what Tobi is going to be stopped. He doesn't have the mental capacity to appropriately control his actions or create the Mugen Tsukuyomi. Much like the Jubi itself, Tobi has become an animalistic creature driven by its desire for self-preservation.All in all, an impressive chapter for what it was. A badass appearance of Tobi as the jinchuuriki and Sakura emerges after two chapters of nonexistence. We need to see more from the self-proclaimed heroine but I'm hoping that Kishi will have something important for Sakura in this fight.

Just from reading this atheck all I can say is, some people just attribute pairing stuff too much, I mean just because Sasuke continued Sakura's sentience? Geez some people look too hard into things to find meaning. Yeah we know its just drama that many sides of the battlefront around the situation would see what is going on. Stuff like the split sentence is common in these things. As for hinata, no real situation for her aside from just doing recon, her role this chapter was basically to show the reader what happened in the moment obito pulled the rinne tensei on himself. Sakura obviously has more to do in the future still with naruto over the Sasuke issue of trust. Sakura could fight alongside tsunade too, I mean they can fight in the same sense. Anyone else besides me think that it may be the neo Sannin facing jubbito? Not sure the role for any of the other k11 could be, I mean this situation for hinata. It was needed for the reader to see what happened last time and it was acceptable to her in this situation, given she is still at a normal power level, her and the restof team 8, 10 and guy, not sure what they could do to help. The only ones combat worthy to face obito tiger are team 7, edo hokage, current kage on their way, and bee and guy. Not sure who else can help unless Madara asserts himself again, knowing Madara, he is got something in store and his secret weapon could be rin or even the sage if its that insane, just no clue if he ever learned the edo tensei.

[PhenixElite]

Hashirama and Tobirama that got the blow are clones ? Though, there weas no smoke if they were clones.

Cause hashiramas clones are wood clones and tobiramas are some other sort. Theres no smoke when the dissappear.

[T XD]

Cause hashiramas clones are wood clones and tobiramas are some other sort. Theres no smoke when the dissappear.

So, it means they were clones which means Hashirama and Tobirama will definitely fight against Obito.