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#61 Atheck

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Posted 26 June 2013 - 09:46 AM

 

I know, but Kishi seems to be milking the characters for more drama till the last moment, even Obito. 

 

He has my sympathy now. Fighting for his idealistic world until the end with the mentality that he has nothing remaining in this world. Despite everything he's done and all of the people who resent him for his actions I think Tobi was the one who may have been hurting the most. As strange as that sounds. In many ways his death is similar to Kisame's. Tobi is the embodiment of a perfervid conviction to a tragic ideal that was manipulated by others; he was an instrument or a device, a means to an end, which once its use has been acquired is simply discarded.

 

It's ironic when you consider how Tobi exploited the wishes of people like Kisame; deluding the man into believing that the Mugen Tsukuyomi would be a realm forged from nothing but truths only to have them die in a final act of loyalty which has ultimately proven itself to be futile. Although there is one notable difference between Tobi and Madara. It's that despite this heinous act the former did at least value the dedication of his soldier at some point in the manga. Madara has done no such thing and it appears that he's simply going to simply abandon his only ally after the resurrection jutsu has been completed.

 

Edit: Like I said, I think Naruto is going to do something similar to Kuwabara and declare that he will fight for Tobi's sake as well.


Edited by Atheck, 26 June 2013 - 09:51 AM.


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Posted 26 June 2013 - 09:47 AM

 

Me too

Madara used Obito as a tool to revive himself.............

Yeah but it was funny because on the same chapter he basically said, i dont want to revive again i was hoping to fight wiht Hashirama again but whatever.

I mean really?

 

Also Madara + Rinne tensei = fabric of rinnegans.
Because if we revive Madara would have 4 eyes, one must be at Obito/Madara's lab ( which i think Sasuke can pick up later), one with Obito and more two with Madara being revived.

Also i dont think that Orochimuaru is going to the battlefield i think eh's going to Madara's laboratory.


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Posted 26 June 2013 - 09:49 AM

Seems strange to me that Obito will already die here... Maybe it's just another fake cliffhanger from Kishi and someone will save him at the last minute (I guess Naruto because Minato is busy about keeping active the barrier and Kakashi is in bad condition).


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Posted 26 June 2013 - 09:50 AM

To be fair, I think a lot of us on here thought Rin looked like Sakura. Near perfect copy if I may say so. It at times seems like it is what would Sakura be if some details changed.

 

Yeah. I mean, not trying to take away from what someone might find interesting about that Rin panel, but I don't see why it's a big deal considering she's always looked like Sakura. 

 

I would say she's more mild in temperament than Sakura, but more than the Kushina or Tsunade ; Rin physically resembles Sakura a lot. 


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Posted 26 June 2013 - 09:51 AM

Pretty sure that this not the instant death of obito. Hes propably still going to have a talk to someone before he die for good.

 

Maybe but right now he thought of Rin because he thought he was on the verge of death.

Maybe Naruto will save him, but he's not close it will be complicated.

Maybe it will be Minato.

 

Or maybe nobody will save him because of the plot sake.

 

Am I the only one asking myself some questions about the last panel ?

 

- Is that the black Zetsu that's trying to kill Obito controlled by Madara ?

- Is that Obito himself attempting to his life to try to block Madara's attempt of Rinne Tensei ? Doesn't Madara need a living body to do Rinne Tensei ?

- Is that Madara trying to separate the black Zetsu from Obito's body ?


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Posted 26 June 2013 - 09:52 AM

Seems strange to me that Obito will already die here... Maybe it's just another fake cliffhanger from Kishi and someone will save him at the last minute (I guess Naruto because Minato is busy about keeping active the barrier and Kakashi is in bad condition).

He can because his speed is faster than Minato's it depends on Kishi's mood if he's going to exploit this again.


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Posted 26 June 2013 - 09:56 AM

If Obito does complete the jutsu next chapter, I think we will get his final thoughts on everything from beginning to the end. I don't know what's going to happen exactly next, but it should be a really good one. The odd thing is that after seeing that, I actually want the volume cover to be him and Kakashi. I don't know but Obito was really tragic and even Kakashi's decision to make the next generation exist in the same realm of the old was hard for him. Well, I'll explain in my review later today. I was going to do one now, but it's gotten too late, so I need sleep.



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Posted 26 June 2013 - 09:57 AM

I think Madara is trying to separate Black Zetsu from Obito's  body, this a half of him will be gone...which is kinda consisting in ...his death?!


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Posted 26 June 2013 - 09:59 AM

I think Madara is trying to separate Black Zetsu from Obito's  body, this a half of him will be gone...which is kinda consisting in ...his death?!

Did they ever mention that the Black Zetsu was in him? If not, cleaver on Kishi because his arm twitched a couple of times, so now it's confirmed that Madara owns him like that, which is disheartening.



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Posted 26 June 2013 - 10:01 AM

In the last panel of the chapter with Obito screaming on his knees, I wonder if he had his hands together for one last jutsu or he was just pleeding for mercy cause it must had been very painfull, considering 1/2 of his body is most likely gonna be comming of, which sounds quiet disgusting now that i think of it.


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Posted 26 June 2013 - 10:02 AM

- Is that the black Zetsu that's trying to kill Obito controlled by Madara ?


Madara apparently has remote access to the Zetsu segment of Tobi's body and so he is corrupting it with his essence in order to physically manipulate him. That's my impression at least.
 

- Is that Obito himself attempting to his life to try to block Madara's attempt of Rinne Tensei?


Possibly, possibly not... After looking at Tobi's hands it appears like he may be forcibly creating a handseal.

http://img.mangastre...ruto/448/17.png - In comparison to Nagato when he initiated the Rinne Tensei jutsu there does appear to be a few similarities regarding the hand positioning with Tobi's gesture on the final page.
 

Doesn't Madara need a living body to do Rinne Tensei ?


The body Kabuto used to bring him back as an Edo should suffice.
 

- Is that Madara trying to separate the black Zetsu from Obito's body ?


I believe it's more like Madara is attempting to assume control over Tobi's body and mind which is why he's screaming in agony like that. He's losing control over his actions, essentially fading out of existence.

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Posted 26 June 2013 - 10:02 AM

Did they ever mention that the Black Zetsu was in him? If not, cleaver on Kishi because his arm twitched a couple of times, so now it's confirmed that Madara owns him like that, which is disheartening.

Did you saw the black rods?

It was explained that it was Madara's will.
Look at Obito's arm was full of black rods, Madara is put his will on Obito and on the last panel it show Madara placing more rods on Obito.

 

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Posted 26 June 2013 - 10:03 AM

I think Madara is trying to separate Black Zetsu from Obito's  body, this a half of him will be gone...which is kinda consisting in ...his death?!

 

I undestand in this way: Madara is using his cells on Obito's body in order to take possession of it and using so his rinnegan for the rinne tensei. Obviously after that Obito's body will die.


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Posted 26 June 2013 - 10:05 AM

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Posted 26 June 2013 - 10:06 AM

 

I undestand in this way: Madara is using his cells on Obito's body in order to take possession of it and using so his rinnegan for the rinne tensei. Obviously after that Obito's body will die.

Youton no Jutsu.

 

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Posted 26 June 2013 - 10:06 AM

I do have to wonder. I love Sakura, but why does Kishi always draw Sakura's hair so...straight? I mean, at times Sakura hair looks like this hard mesh of hair that would cut your hand off if you ran your hand through it, but Rin's hair is perfectly natural and looks like soft hair.

Maybe I am nit picking on something minor, but this is one thing that has always bothered me just a bit.


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Posted 26 June 2013 - 10:08 AM

Did they ever mention that the Black Zetsu was in him? If not, cleaver on Kishi because his arm twitched a couple of times, so now it's confirmed that Madara owns him like that, which is disheartening.

Actually, it was shown to us that he was covered in White Zetsu, but nothing of Black Zetsu until now...Or I may be missing something!

 

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I still think that Madara tries to pull out the Black Zetsu somehow so that he can become the Jinchuuriki. He needs a live Body and Zetsu are live bodies. Which means Obito will remain without his half body, thus, his tragic death...

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Posted 26 June 2013 - 10:26 AM

Intense chapter liked it. The plot is finally moving, I don't see Obito dying right now I agree with most of Atheck's posts, Obito will get his closure otherwise why show only Naruto and Minato reacting to Obito's suffering, I never enjoyed Obito's character since he has been revealed to be Tobi but now I feel sorry for him, I don't know how to express it but I think this chapter gave him an other dimension, tragic character. I still think it's stupid Kakashi has been able to defeat him by himself but plot needed it and I can look past these little inconsistencies since I enjoyed the way it was done.
Madara is officially the final villain, these last chapters he looked like a joke but this chapter showed his cruelty, he's going to be the 10tails jin I suppose that's why everyone of importance has been reunited in the same place the final boss is about to appear and everyone's help will be needed of course Naruto will have the biggest hand in his defeat. There's still something that is bothering me about that tough there's no real conflict between Madara and Naruto, from a narrative perspective it makes no sense there has to be a personal conflict between the 2 so I give credence to Atheck's theory that Naruto will fight for Obito because in the end Obito was really Madara's tool.
As for the Sakura-Rin it has been obvious for quite some time now we just need a verbal confirmation and I think only Obito can do that if it ever happens.

I would like to comment more but I am tired right now, will come back later

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Posted 26 June 2013 - 10:31 AM

Intense chapter liked it. The plot is finally moving, I don't see Obito dying right now I agree with most of Atheck's posts, Obito will get his closure otherwise why show only Naruto and Minato reacting to Obito's suffering, I never enjoyed Obito's character since he has been revealed to be Tobi but now I feel sorry for him, I don't know how to express it but I think this chapter gave him an other dimension, tragic character. I still think it's stupid Kakashi has been able to defeat him by himself but plot needed it and I can look past these little inconsistencies since I enjoyed the way it was done.
Madara is officially the final villain, these last chapters he looked like a joke but this chapter showed his cruelty, he's going to be the 10tails jin I suppose that's why everyone of importance has been reunited in the same place the final boss is about to appear and everyone's help will be needed of course Naruto will have the biggest hand in his defeat. There's still something that is bothering me about that tough there's no real conflict between Madara and Naruto, from a narrative perspective it makes no sense there has to be a personal conflict between the 2 so I give credence to Atheck's theory that Naruto will fight for Obito because in the end Obito was really Madara's tool.
As for the Sakura-Rin it has been obvious for quite some time now we just need a verbal confirmation and I think only Obito can do that if it ever happens.

I would like to comment more but I am tired right now, will come back later

I felt strange why he didnt used mokuton.


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Posted 26 June 2013 - 10:35 AM

He has my sympathy now. Fighting for his idealistic world until the end with the mentality that he has nothing remaining in this world. Despite everything he's done and all of the people who resent him for his actions I think Tobi was the one who may have been hurting the most. As strange as that sounds. In many ways his death is similar to Kisame's. Tobi is the embodiment of a perfervid conviction to a tragic ideal that was manipulated by others; he was an instrument or a device, a means to an end, which once its use has been acquired is simply discarded.

It's ironic when you consider how Tobi exploited the wishes of people like Kisame; deluding the man into believing that the Mugen Tsukuyomi would be a realm forged from nothing but truths only to have them die in a final act of loyalty which has ultimately proven itself to be futile. Although there is one notable difference between Tobi and Madara. It's that despite this heinous act the former did at least value the dedication of his soldier at some point in the manga. Madara has done no such thing and it appears that he's simply going to simply abandon his only ally after the resurrection jutsu has been completed.

Edit: Like I said, I think Naruto is going to do something similar to Kuwabara and declare that he will fight for Tobi's sake as well.


Nice post. I agree.

Seems strange to me that Obito will already die here... Maybe it's just another fake cliffhanger from Kishi and someone will save him at the last minute (I guess Naruto because Minato is busy about keeping active the barrier and Kakashi is in bad condition).


I hope you're right.
I wonder who's close enough to Obito right now to save him... I'd like Minato to do it, but like you said, he's busy plus I think he's pretty far away. I just want some Minato/Obito interaction, dammit.

Yeah. I mean, not trying to take away from what someone might find interesting about that Rin panel, but I don't see why it's a big deal considering she's always looked like Sakura.

I would say she's more mild in temperament than Sakura, but more than the Kushina or Tsunade ; Rin physically resembles Sakura a lot.

Agreed. Sakura's got the light eyes like Kushina, and that little hair thing at the top of her head with the lines (if you know what I'm talking about lol) like Tsunade (and the bangs at the side of Tsunade's face are similar to the ones Sakura had in Part One, after she cut her hair), but she has short, light hair like Rin, and their eyes just look similar to me. Not the eye colour, of course. I don't know, my point is they really do look quite similar.

I do have to wonder. I love Sakura, but why does Kishi always draw Sakura's hair so...straight? I mean, at times Sakura hair looks like this hard mesh of hair that would cut your hand off if you ran your hand through it, but Rin's hair is perfectly natural and looks like soft hair.
Maybe I am nit picking on something minor, but this is one thing that has always bothered me just a bit.

Haha, that "cut your hand off" bit made me laugh.

Yeah, I see where you're coming from. Rin's hair often, especially in that last panel on the second-to-last page, looks "free-flowing," or natural, like you said, while Kishi doesn't usually draw Sakura's like that. I do like Sakura's hair, though, and I liked the way it was drawn this chapter.

Does anyone know what the sfx by Minato on that last page is, by chance?

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