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#61 Nefertieh

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Posted 10 April 2013 - 01:51 PM

QUOTE (Dαrkrєrsŧ @ Apr 11 2013, 02:38 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Different sets of ideals?
Sasuke resolution is the same of itachi, there's no difference, i belive there will be a spar match probably.
But still about Sakura if things go out on this way so then forget about Sakura helping Naruto or her getting a power-up Kishi is going to prove that he give up on her character and can label her as the worst shounen heroine ever for basically get downgraded to a pairing fodder.


I love this theory! I'm not sure if people are comfortable when it comes down to two people fighting for essentially the same thing because of slightly different ideals of peace, though. It's not how peace works.
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Posted 10 April 2013 - 01:53 PM

QUOTE (Dαrkrєrsŧ @ Apr 10 2013, 02:05 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I'm with you i'll also dropped it.
i told so many times why i wasnt sure about NS because of asspulls like this.


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QUOTE (luffyq1 @ Apr 10 2013, 02:22 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Reading this ridiculous chapter made me feel like NS is not going to happen...


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QUOTE (kirabook @ Apr 10 2013, 02:31 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
As I thought, Kishi has no idea what he's doing with the story anymore. He threw consistency out of the window long ago. It's as if nothing else matters other than Sasuke. He practically has everyone in the room there bowing to his feet as if he was always in the right. Kishi still has yet to crush his stupid ego.

And how is this fight going to happen now? I'm assuming it's going to be that 'fight between friends' like I predicted a while back. But given how the story has lead up to this point, that's just plain stupid.

And this is exactly what I mean about pairings. If Kishi goes with what he has written until now, then NS is obvious. But since Kishi seems to have forgotten the definition of consistency, I worry he's going to do something really... well, stupid. (not that he hasn't already)


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QUOTE (Baguette @ Apr 10 2013, 02:41 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I forget how OOC Sasuke has become just now...
And I swear, if their final fight gets downgraded even further to a mere sparring match...


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Yep, gratz kishi for destroying your manga.

I'm done with caring about this manga anymore, i'm just going to check in to see who ends up with who but i can guarantee after this asspull that SS is already 99% gonna be asspulled into canon.



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Posted 10 April 2013 - 01:55 PM

QUOTE (Nefertieh @ Apr 10 2013, 08:46 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
The funny thing is, I hated Sasuke's face in this chapter. I almost want to ask if Kishimoto was the one who drew his face in this chapter.


One minute it was okay, the next, he doesn't even look like himself. The Sasuke panels were poorly drawn IMO. Kishi could of been the one to draw him. lol

The last battle will be a sparring match between Naruto fight till the sun goes down smiling with Sakura and Karin cheering Sasuke on on the side and Hinata cheering on Naruto having her doubts on if he'll win of course! th_7eyytubokky7rehok1k.gif pictureem0.gif fu.png

I don't like how easily people have changed. If Orochimaru has really changed because of Sasuke, then that's some crazy ass BS. What his teammates couldn't do, Sasuke did?

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Posted 10 April 2013 - 01:55 PM

QUOTE (HauntedCake @ Apr 10 2013, 10:53 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
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Yep, gratz kishi for destroying your manga.

I'm done with caring about this manga anymore, i'm just going to check in to see who ends up with who but i can guarantee after this asspull that SS is already 99% gonna be asspulled into canon.

The problem is with SS, Sasuke give her reasons for her to move one when she's finnaly settling up her mind Sasuke suddenly becomes good and i do think he will apologize also, then it will be harder for her to move on.
It's drops the chance of SS and then if Sakura ends up with Sasuke opens a road for NH no matter how development it has that can be put on half of a page, it will get canon, while SS that has basically 0 development may end up being canon, or worse Open ending with Sasuke and his 3 fangirls also dont forget about Ino.

INo come back to being a fangirl which i belive Ino and Sakura will return then...

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Posted 10 April 2013 - 01:56 PM

Sheesh .. so Sasuke gets redeemed just like that .. oh well , guess that is not much iof a surprise . I still have not lost hope in Orochimaru though and him being true to his goal . I think he is still after Sasuke's body so now he has no choice but to go along and protect him . And I guess the reason why he did not use the Kage to accomplish his plan is because he lost control of them (at least of Hashirama anyway)

Looking forward to the Minato and Naruto reunion , I wonder what is this gift Minato has for him (most likely the other half of Kyuubi's chakra , though I m not 100% sure) .

Also , does anyone else think that Sasuke being redeemed opens the possibility for team 7 to become the new legendary Sannin ?

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Posted 10 April 2013 - 01:56 PM

Karin you hit the wrong guy ... should have been Sasuke and not Suigetsu!!!! 111193.gif

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Posted 10 April 2013 - 01:56 PM

Eh, I don't trust Orochimaru ...
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#68 Sakamaki Izayoi

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Posted 10 April 2013 - 01:58 PM

QUOTE (lupina @ Apr 10 2013, 10:56 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Eh, I don't trust Orochimaru ...

Look at the point that the story get hoping that we get some plot twist to the story has quality.
This entire arc is full of disappointment since Madara's revival.
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Posted 10 April 2013 - 01:59 PM

That was the ONLY thing I liked in this chapter, Minato looking forward to seeing his son. At last maybe they have have a descent conversation or something (although it's in the middle of war)

That's the only thing Kishi hasn't messed up, the adorable relationship Naruto has with his long dead parents. (might be the fanfiction talking)

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Posted 10 April 2013 - 02:00 PM

Looks like we are all coming to terms with the unlikelihood of NS becoming canon. mellow.gif

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Posted 10 April 2013 - 02:00 PM

Been a while since I made a comment on anything..

But I actually didn't mind this. I mean we already knew the pace of the manga was speeding up and something like this came as no surprise to me, anyway.
I actually found it quite amusing.

I also though Sasuke's face when Karin hugged him was hilarious. I don't think we've ever seen him like that and it just made me think of the old Sasuke from early part one... the one that I actually tolerated. And it was a nice feeling.

But the Sasuke thing passed quite quickly for me because now I'm just really really excited about the Kages.... Hashi continues to be adorable with how excited he gets over things.. and Minato's all happy because he finally gets to meet his son and now they're all heading to the battle field and I just have a lot of feelings right now!!

Aaannnd now, I just want the focus to go back to our main character... please... pleasepleaseplease... It's his manga and we only get to see him once in a while these days, for crying out loud. XD

On a side note, you guys worry too much about NS lately. Ye of little faith! tongue.gif
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Posted 10 April 2013 - 02:00 PM

QUOTE (Nefertieh @ Apr 10 2013, 09:33 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Wow, if Sasuke turns into the hero and Naruto becomes the villain... That would be really interesting to see.

I'm looking at all you fanfic writers.

laugh.gif Wouldn't that be so awesome!

Also, someone mentioned about Sasuke being psychotic, like the rest of the Uchihas. So...where does that storyline come in if Sasuke's suddenly turned good. Will he come down with the Uchiha affliction and turn bad anyway? Or will that whole thing just be "under rug swept?"

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Posted 10 April 2013 - 02:01 PM

QUOTE (Inferno180 @ Apr 11 2013, 02:38 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Well Sasuke is moving towards his good side and there are many people displeased despite this being a big chapter, but remember he is still going to fight Naruto.

Yeah I agree its moving too fast, least the 4 hokages, Suigetsu, and Jugo are still acting how they should.

Anyways, Sasuke could only be doing this because of Itachi, remember he still has no reason to just go loving Sakura, Kishi can asspull but it would just break the story, a simple apology to Karin is not going to nessessarily fill him with love he should not end up with, remember Sasuke never had any impact from Sakura.

Karin, well its kinda sad she just turned right back to Sasuke after a simple apology, well she still was acting obessed with him in chapter 574, so she really did not change all that much.

Orochimaru was one we had no idea what would become of him, now is he trying something else?

Also, for those who like NS here:

Remember, we still need to see where Naruto and Sakura go forward when it comes back to them. This was Sasuke's development, it seems like its hard to believe with Hashirama's merits vs Naruto's attempted efforts but there is a difference, Sasuke is doing this cause of Itachi not Naruto, when it comes to Naruto that will be the deciding point. He didn't say he would come back to the leaf, its for now, a matter of the common enemy with Madara. Don't be concerned for NaruSaku, we still have no idea what will happen from this point forward, will we return to the battlefield? Get some break in the action with the wounded kages? Shift to whereever Sakura and Sai went? We have no idea, but going forward there are still a few assured things to come. Naruto and Sakura will have interaction again espcially when it comes down to the final fight between Naruto and Sasuke. Remember we still have no idea where Sakura will go forward, she can hopefully get over Sasuke or mature as we hope or Kishi can just leave her loving Sasuke and this ruins her development and she held out for him merely because she hoped. There are still other story elements to come. Even with these events, its not like these have a direct effect on the possiblity of NaruSaku, Karin is the craziest out of those who followed Sasuke, hopefully things don't remain the same with Sakura after the 5 kage summit events, we still need to see where her feelings are, heck we even need to see where Naruto's are. Remember as a character Sakura has had much more development and interaction with Naruto and she has had effects on him too, kishi could undermine this all if he wanted but that would be bad. Until we see otherwise there is still potential for NS to come, we still don't have our answers from chapter 540 and the 615 panel, there is a lot that can happen. So just be ready, we don't know what lies ahead but we still know that there are things which serve as foreshadowing when it comes to Sakura.


While this is a good point, the problem is that this chapter did not end with Sasuke going to war to defeat the common enemy. It was all about the will of fire, enduring hatred and carrying on Itachi's legacy. There is essentially no need for him and Naruto to fight anymore. I can honestly imagine he will fight alongside Naruto in this arc, and the manga could just end right there.

Sakura? Who's that?
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Posted 10 April 2013 - 02:01 PM

QUOTE (Tsubaki @ Apr 10 2013, 08:49 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Even the epic Kages scene failed to diminish my dissatisfaction with this chapter. I knew that Sasuke would help Naruto in this battle against Madara in some way, but I really didn't expect that he would be fully redeemed so easily, then all the Naruto's efforts throughout the manga have been in vain?! I really hope that Kishi has something in mind with this .. because seriously .. This whole thing is getting ridiculous!

Also, I'm disappointed with Karin, after all that drama in the Summit arc, I didn't expected that she would forgive him so easily, It doesn't seem something that Karin would do! being a Sk shipper, I expected something more deeper and less funny! but ok....

If Sasuke was truly redeemed so easily then anything is possible .. NaruHina, SasuSaku, even NaruIno!

If Kishi made ​​Sasuke being redeemed by someone else, even after all Naruto's efforts to save him, what prevents him from making Naruto end up with another person even after all the NS development?!

'sigh' I'll wait for the next chapters to see what happens before completing my opnion ... Kishi might have something in mind .. I hope ...


Makes you wonder. He did kill their struggles to redeem him with no problem. At this point, I wouldn't even be surprised given the consistent load of BS that's been happening in this manga. People spouting ridiculous lines like, "You've always been by my side", and now this? Kishi is just kittening up kitten left and right and now this. I guess the "new generation" ain't kitten at this point. He's all over the place with his manga and nothing's consistent. He has ideals/goals and such made from characters, and that kitten gets thrown to the wayside for plot progression. Even if characters are OOC. It's like he's really truly aiming to make EVERYONE a goody goody and that's not realistic especially with how easy it's done after the huge struggle. It's craziness!

I guess we should expect Sakura to melt at the good Sasuke eh Kishi!?

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Posted 10 April 2013 - 02:04 PM

QUOTE (StriderC @ Apr 11 2013, 02:55 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
One minute it was okay, the next, he doesn't even look like himself. The Sasuke panels were poorly drawn IMO. Kishi could of been the one to draw him. lol

The last battle will be a sparring match between Naruto fight till the sun goes down smiling with Sakura and Karin cheering Sasuke on on the side and Hinata cheering on Naruto having her doubts on if he'll win of course! th_7eyytubokky7rehok1k.gif pictureem0.gif fu.png

I don't like how easily people have changed. If Orochimaru has really changed because of Sasuke, then that's some crazy ass BS. What his teammates couldn't do, Sasuke did?


No no, Orochimaru is the type of guy who will only listen to you after you kill him.


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Posted 10 April 2013 - 02:04 PM

QUOTE (Crimson @ Apr 10 2013, 11:00 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Looks like we are all coming to terms with the unlikelihood of NS becoming canon. mellow.gif


NS is the only thing in this manga that I never lose hope. narusakuct7.gif

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Posted 10 April 2013 - 02:05 PM

QUOTE (Crimson @ Apr 10 2013, 10:00 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Looks like we are all coming to terms with the unlikelihood of NS becoming canon. mellow.gif


Not really. It's moreso the fact that if anything else happens, it's obvious that Kishi has ruined his own story. tongue.gif
Who in their right mind thinks that Sasuke suddenly converting and deciding to protect Konoha is a natural progression after all the hints KISHI laid out that Naruto was the only one that could change Sasuke?

Similarly to who in their right mind would assume NH or SS is a natural progression after Kishi obviously built up NS through various chapters.

Kishi is no longer consistent with his own story line. This was slightly obvious through other events in the past that seemed to be pulled out of nowhere (every single technique Sasuke is gifted) but now it's just blatantly obvious.

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Posted 10 April 2013 - 02:08 PM

Right now the only salvation "Naruto" has is Orochimaru. Please Kishi don't screw Orochimaru you've already screwed every character in the story please don't screw Orochimaru as well.

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Which I've told you - time and time again - is dangerous! There will never be consensus, son, among those you have helped to ascend. They will all differ in their views of what it means to be free. The peace you so desperately seek does not exist.
 
These men are united now by a common cause. But when this battle is finished they will fall to fighting amongst themselves about how best to ensure control. In time it will lead to war. You will see.


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Posted 10 April 2013 - 02:08 PM

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Looks like we are all coming to terms with the unlikelihood of NS becoming canon.


Ehh, no.
I still think NS is too obvious.
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Posted 10 April 2013 - 02:08 PM

QUOTE (kirabook @ Apr 10 2013, 09:05 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Not really. It's moreso the fact that if anything else happens, it's obvious that Kishi has ruined his own story. tongue.gif
Who in their right mind thinks that Sasuke suddenly converting and deciding to protect Konoha is a natural progression after all the hints KISHI laid out that Naruto was the only one that could change Sasuke?

Similarly to who in their right mind would assume NH or SS is a natural progression after Kishi obviously built up NS through various chapters.

Kishi is no longer consistent with his own story line. This was slightly obvious through other events in the past that seemed to be pulled out of nowhere (every single technique Sasuke is gifted) but now it's just blatantly obvious.


THIS.

SS is still dead IMO. Sasuke sparking up interests in Sakura would be like FF at this point. If anything, this IMO pretty much just makes NS becoming canon more fulfilling since Naruto wouldn't be the fallback guy even after Sasuke's redeemed. She'd choose him because she loves him.

But Kishi could easily dive off the deep end and kill NS. LMAO! I'd prefer NS, or nothing at all.




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