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[CloudMountainJuror]

Of course the main character is going to outclass everyone, that's how it goes in manga's. He cannot be compared to anyone else. I guess what's left for us to do is compare other characters amongst themselves.

Outclass, yes. But I hope that it doesn't get to the point where he'd be a god compared to the others.

[Rikudo Sennin]

Awesome chapter and finally a Naruto/Kurama team up. It's been a long time coming. I really hope that Naruto doesn't lose this power. And Naruto is already in a league of his own post sm and rm. This just puts him closer to god(so6p) level which he will eventually become.

[Amy-chan]

No words can described how good this was.

[Phantom_999]

Good point... I guess my real main concern is that Naruto will just surpass everyone (not counting the villains) in power that it'll make everyone else worthless. That was DBGT's main problem, in my opinion. The main character outclassed everyone so much that everyone else became pointless. I really, really don't want Naruto to head in that direction.

Outclass, yes. But I hope that it doesn't get to the point where he'd be a god compared to the others.

I don't consider GT part of the canon anyway. But to be honest If you're talking about about the main character doing everything cause everyone else has become too weak to compare to them or their enemies then Dragon Ball Z has already done a heck of a job at that already. Remember Frieza? all everyone did was fight him and get their asses kicked before Goku went super saiyan. Then there was Cell. Goku decided to let Gohan finish him for whatever reason, and at best only Vegeta did something and that was just blast half his body off which regenerated after, and lets not forget everyone else was getting pummeled by those blue Cell spawns. Lets see, where do I start with Kid Buu? Goku could not last against him fighting one on one, though he was getting the advantage because he couldn't maintain SS3 indefinitely against Kid Buu's endless supply of ki, Vegeta in SS2 didn't do S*** to him, Fat Buu didn't do S*** to him, everyone else DIED. and I can name some other other anime too really. So point is you see it all over the place really, But Naruto isn't the worst one. At least even if the characters are weak they are winning their fights through cunning, tactics and skill. Beautiful thing about wars in fighting manga; everyone gets to do their part. Besides It's either the main charcter gets super strong and wins logically with their own strength or they lose like hell then MIRACLE WIN. Gonna have take your pick on that.

Edited by Phantom_999, 27 January 2012 - 01:24 AM.

[Toasty Warrior]

And the next few chapters will focus on Naruto trying to power up his kamehameha err bijuu-dama to use against the other tailed beasts.

[Dragunov]

And the next few chapters will focus on Naruto trying to power up his kamehameha err bijuu-dama to use against the other tailed beasts.

they should call it a kamehameha. I mean, anyone notice the reference? Bijuu dama= Henki dama?

[James S Cassidy]

Good point... I guess my real main concern is that Naruto will just surpass everyone (not counting the villains) in power that it'll make everyone else worthless. That was DBGT's main problem, in my opinion. The main character outclassed everyone so much that everyone else became pointless. I really, really don't want Naruto to head in that direction.

It seems that massive power is short lived. Even Goku in his most powerful form could only do it for so long. That's the weakness. Even with Tobi like Kakashi pointed out, yeah he had the six-paths, but it took up most of his chakra and concentration to control it which is why he had to rely on them to do all the heavy lifting.

I see what you mean by being overpowered, but he doesn't have infinite power.

As for him outclassing the others. In terms of power, definitely. He is one of the most powerful, if not the most powerful, ninja alive. In terms of knowledge and tactician, Shikamaru beats him there. So it's all of a matter of what he is outclassing them with.

Plus, with him having the most powerful kyuubi out of all of all of them, I was half expecting a major power-boost from him.

[Codus N]

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I gotta say that was an epic chapter, and Naruto's new look when he uses the Kyuubi cloak looks quite awesome, but it's not fully complete so perhaps it will change once they finally merge together more, and perhaps I was wrong in saying last week that Kurama was going to betray Naruto.

I believe that once it's perfected, the transformation will be closer to Kurama's original form (fur and all) with the addition of the markings. As of right now, it's more like a chakra shroud rather than the Bijuu itself. So I think right now, the current form is closer to being a "V2" of RM. Kurama might be a tad bit annoyed when he learns his fur is covered with weird markings when it's perfected. That's another thing he might be pissed at Minato about since it's likely he designed it that way.

Another thing to note is that Bee, who is a perfect Jinchuuriki who's completely mastered Bijuu Mode since many years ago, compared to Naruto who's only recently mastered it is that Bee can do partial transformations. Something he's still yet to learn.

I'm thinking the reason why Naruto's Bijuu mode is more like a chakra shroud for now is because Kurama is still limiting the amount of chakra he's giving Naruto because if Kurama gives him more than necessary, it'll overtax Naruto and endanger him because he hasn't learned how to maintain and control it completely like Bee can. In order to perfect it, he'll need more chakra control training. If I'm correct, Kisame stated that with how Bee is able to do partial transformations, it means Bee's chakra control must be very good. So, in order to perfect it, high proficiency in chakra control is absolutely necessary. That could take years.

If Kishi plans on a small timeskip again (about 1-2 years) we'll probably see a fully mastered Bijuu mode by then.

[pharix]

they should call it a kamehameha. I mean, anyone notice the reference? Bijuu dama= Henki dama?

isn't a reference lol. dama means "sphere"

[Blayze]

What.

[shadow_Uzumaki]

What.

Such profound sharing of wisdom and enlightenment.

[Smiter]

What.

Bloody hell, do my eyes deceive me?

Welcome back, Blayze.

I'm guessing you've been out of the loop for a while?

[FoolishYoungling]

Wheres Kabuto?

[Greed-Sama]

Wheres Kabuto?

Sipping tea with Itachi about how they are going to take over the world.

[CloudMountainJuror]

Sipping tea with Itachi about how they are going to take over the world.

Sounds about right.

[FoolishYoungling]

Sipping tea with Itachi about how they are going to take over the world.

[Dragunov]

Sipping tea with Itachi about how they are going to take over the world.

Never saw it coming.

[Toasty Warrior]

Having a smoke, and talking to Kishimoto about what they'll do next in the manga.

[Dragunov]

How might this battle end? From what we know, Madatobi is already hellbent on capturing them here and now. How much longer can it drag out?

[Fenris]

This is making me repeat myself, but how does this chapter make Naruto look like a hokage? It makes him look more like a god of gods, or leader of world type of person.

Naruto could be my god anyday.

LOL, um, anyway...

I don't think the nine tails will betray Naruto either, and if he does... then Naru could kiss his ass goodbye. I'm still wonderng what Sakuras reaction will be when she sees the nine tails + the massive chakra field Naruto's creating with all of that chakra when the units get there. I don't think she knew of his training with Bee + the whole Kyuubi promise.