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#61 merryGOflava

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Posted 14 January 2012 - 05:59 PM

QUOTE (shadow_Uzumaki @ Jan 14 2012, 06:09 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Dude, he's probably forgiven the Kyuubi for that, too.

This is Ninja Jesus, remember? XD


All kidding aside, that is a good point. What I wrote was just an assumption, could be a highly likely assumption, but still an assumption.


what do you guys mean?? wouldnt naruto be more ticked at "Tobi" for controlling kurama in the first place????

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Posted 15 January 2012 - 06:58 AM

QUOTE (merryGOflava @ Jan 14 2012, 10:59 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
what do you guys mean?? wouldnt naruto be more ticked at "Tobi" for controlling kurama in the first place????


He IS the guy Naruto is planning on pounding into the dust either way. cool.gif

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Posted 15 January 2012 - 11:49 PM

QUOTE (merryGOflava @ Jan 13 2012, 07:57 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
i thought it was tobi's fault? cause he was controlling kurama?

It was Tobi's fault that Kurama got loose from its bonds.
But take another look at chapter 504, especially page 7.
Kurama is in full control when it tried to kill Naruto, and got his parents instead.

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Posted 15 January 2012 - 11:58 PM

QUOTE (RedDelicious @ Jan 15 2012, 11:49 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
It was Tobi's fault that Kurama got loose from its bonds.
But take another look at chapter 504, especially page 7.
Kurama is in full control when it tried to kill Naruto, and got his parents instead.


cant blame the fox for trying........but i get your point.

he was probably still in a rage after tobi tried to control him though.

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Posted 16 January 2012 - 09:45 AM

QUOTE (merryGOflava @ Jan 16 2012, 03:58 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
cant blame the fox for trying........but i get your point.

he was probably still in a rage after tobi tried to control him though.

Wait wait..Are you saying that Kurama is a good guy or something huh.gif?

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Posted 16 January 2012 - 09:51 AM

QUOTE (merryGOflava @ Jan 15 2012, 11:58 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
cant blame the fox for trying........but i get your point.

he was probably still in a rage after tobi tried to control him though.

Kurama had a good reason to attack with any commands. He, and the rest of the tailed beast, had been used so much, as nothing more than a tool.

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Posted 16 January 2012 - 11:15 AM

QUOTE (Sakura Lover @ Jan 16 2012, 01:51 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Kurama had a good reason to attack with any commands. He, and the rest of the tailed beast, had been used so much, as nothing more than a tool.


Agree the Kyuubi may be evil but he attacked the village under Madara's EMS control he didn't do it on his own free will.
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Posted 16 January 2012 - 12:45 PM

Karuma is a tailed beast. He is a predator, not a human being. Even if he has a higher level of consciousness than the animals these masses of chakra represent.

Honestly, I'm siding with Karuma on this one wink.gif
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Posted 16 January 2012 - 06:49 PM

Can't blame Karuma for his desperate attempt to stop being imprisoned once again, He might be a mass of hatred and negative feelings, but did he deserve to be imprisoned for 60 plus years for a crime someone else commited? The first Hokage knew Karuma was being controlled but because of his fear the kyuubi would be used by others, he and his wife sealed Karuma away...gotta feel sorry for the guy. Naruto's parents were going to die anyway, Minato with his soul sealed away in the Shinigami's stomach and Kushina from having the Kyuubi torn out from inside her, Karuma kinda quickened the process a bit and gave the two parents a more nobel death of dying protecting their newborn child.

Naruto now understands how Karuma was a tool used by Madara and then Tobi, we don't see weapons being arrested for crimes commited we see the person using the weapon being locked away.

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Posted 16 January 2012 - 09:02 PM

I'll also side with Kurama on this. After all, he was trying to avoid being imprisoned.

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Posted 16 January 2012 - 09:03 PM

Kurama, fellas, not Karuma.


Also....BRIAN BLESSED should totally voice the 4-tails, or another equally boisterous voice actor....like whoever voiced Alex Armstrong.

Edited by shadow_Uzumaki, 16 January 2012 - 09:06 PM.


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Posted 16 January 2012 - 09:07 PM

QUOTE (shadow_Uzumaki @ Jan 16 2012, 01:03 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Kurama, fellas, not Karuma.


Also....BRIAN BLESSED should totally voice the 4-tails.

Might as well give him a top hat and a monocle too.

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Posted 16 January 2012 - 11:27 PM

QUOTE (harry4e @ Jan 16 2012, 12:49 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Can't blame Karuma for his desperate attempt to stop being imprisoned once again, He might be a mass of hatred and negative feelings, but did he deserve to be imprisoned for 60 plus years for a crime someone else commited?

I can *understand* its actions, but still blame it for trying to kill a baby that was only a few hours old (that had no voice in what was going on).

I'm not saying Naruto should be plotting to backstab Kurama in revenge.
Just that having them become best buds, without *some* exploring how it all started, would feel cheap to me.

(Edit: "Kurama, fellas, not Karuma")

Edited by RedDelicious, 16 January 2012 - 11:28 PM.


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Posted 16 January 2012 - 11:28 PM

QUOTE (shadow_Uzumaki @ Jan 16 2012, 09:03 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Kurama, fellas, not Karuma.


Also....BRIAN BLESSED should totally voice the 4-tails, or another equally boisterous voice actor....like whoever voiced Alex Armstrong.


Oops. but i'm sure to get it wrong in the future as well....me and names don't really mix so well.

Googles Brian Blessing...Bloody hell that's the guy i've been picturing as the voice of Son Goku as well....there is a striking resemblance.

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Posted 16 January 2012 - 11:36 PM

QUOTE (RedDelicious @ Jan 16 2012, 05:27 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I can *understand* its actions, but still blame it for trying to kill a baby that was only a few hours old (that had no voice in what was going on).

I'm not saying Naruto should be plotting to backstab Kurama in revenge.
Just that having them become best buds, without *some* exploring how it all started, would feel cheap to me.

(Edit: "Kurama, fellas, not Karuma")



But they're not best buds, at all. The Kyuubi doesn't see Naruto as his best friend or what-have-you, what they have is more of an understanding of their circumstances and a grudging respect for each other.... Well, the grudging part is on the Kyuubi's side, but it still stands.
There's always a chance that he's still pretending to be nice and waiting for a chance to escape himself, even if it's a low chance.

...Also, I have no idea what you edited.... headscratch.gif


Brian Blessed is the go-to guy for boisterous roles in British cinema and theatre. He played Hamlet Sr. in Kenneth Brannagh's adaptation of Hamlet, and while he was whispering his whole lines, he still managed to whisper very loud.

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Posted 17 January 2012 - 08:32 AM

QUOTE (shadow_Uzumaki @ Jan 16 2012, 04:36 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
But they're not best buds, at all. The Kyuubi doesn't see Naruto as his best friend or what-have-you, what they have is more of an understanding of their circumstances and a grudging respect for each other.... Well, the grudging part is on the Kyuubi's side, but it still stands.
There's always a chance that he's still pretending to be nice and waiting for a chance to escape himself, even if it's a low chance.

...Also, I have no idea what you edited.... headscratch.gif


Brian Blessed is the go-to guy for boisterous roles in British cinema and theatre. He played Hamlet Sr. in Kenneth Brannagh's adaptation of Hamlet, and while he was whispering his whole lines, he still managed to whisper very loud.


The thing is, all the tailed beats were mistreated, but Naruto seems to be something they didn't anticipate. What happens when someone doesn't see them as weapons or monsters, but living things trying to find a home?

They have respect for the Six Paths because he seemed to see them like his own children. Giving them names and such.

Also, where does it say the Kurama was the embodiment of hatred? I don't remember anything saying that. Sure he hated a lot of people, but the people he hated did stuff to him. Even Minato seemed to see them like monsters. So even if he does hate everyone I think it's not because he is created from hate, but rather what was put into him by the people who treated him wrong.

To me I see Kurama like the bratty kids in school. They never obey people and play jokes not because they hate people, but because they were kind of shunned and neglected and being told what to do all the time instead of people accepting who they are.
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Posted 17 January 2012 - 09:03 AM

What's up guys been a while. Lol did Naruto and sakura still not meet up in this chapter? Ughhhh.
Hey remember that 2011 OVA though? There was a moment she hugged him in an emotional cry cause she thought Naruto was dead after he fought Sasuke. And isn't there gonna be a fight between Naruto and Sasuke soon? Hmm I smell a moment coming up! But I do hope that's not all... Hope they have a moment before they go fight.

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Posted 17 January 2012 - 09:10 AM

QUOTE (James S Cassidy @ Jan 17 2012, 04:32 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
The thing is, all the tailed beats were mistreated, but Naruto seems to be something they didn't anticipate. What happens when someone doesn't see them as weapons or monsters, but living things trying to find a home?

They have respect for the Six Paths because he seemed to see them like his own children. Giving them names and such.

Also, where does it say the Kurama was the embodiment of hatred? I don't remember anything saying that. Sure he hated a lot of people, but the people he hated did stuff to him. Even Minato seemed to see them like monsters. So even if he does hate everyone I think it's not because he is created from hate, but rather what was put into him by the people who treated him wrong.

To me I see Kurama like the bratty kids in school. They never obey people and play jokes not because they hate people, but because they were kind of shunned and neglected and being told what to do all the time instead of people accepting who they are.

Doesn't the bold part remind you of a certain loud mouth unpredictable ninja in his younger years. laugh.gif Now that we think about it it seems that Kurama couldn't have gotten a better host. Finally, someone who has the ability to understand him after so many years of rejection.

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Posted 17 January 2012 - 10:57 AM

QUOTE (shadow_Uzumaki @ Jan 16 2012, 05:36 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
But they're not best buds, at all.

I never said they are.
I used the the word "become"/becoming. There were quite a few posts the past few chapters where people were talking about how Naruto and Kurama were going to have a buddy-buddy relationship, like Bee has. I'm just pointing out that their history is turbulent, and will require more storytelling to achieve that end, if it is to feel organic.

QUOTE (shadow_Uzumaki @ Jan 16 2012, 05:36 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
...Also, I have no idea what you edited.... headscratch.gif

I misspelled one word, and I made a note on how it was previously misspelled. (Twas a thanks to you for pointing it out to everyone.)

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Posted 17 January 2012 - 09:52 PM

Good chapter. I expect a little more action but it was alright. I think that Kurama is finally going to "wake up" and trust Naruto. It's about time.

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