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#61 Smiter

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Posted 12 October 2011 - 06:03 PM

Enjoyed the twist in this chapter. biggrin.gif Things just got interesting...

QUOTE (Roxy @ Oct 12 2011, 06:02 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Now that I think about it....... the fact that TOBI!Madara isn't a REAL!Madara could mean that Sasuke's chances of redemption got higher. mellow.gif


Very true. Sasuke has allied himself with Fake!Madara purely because of the "truth" he was fed. His desire for revenge only fed his willingness to believe whatever some guy in a mask tells him. Once Sasuke finds out that Fake!Madara isn't who he claims to be, he will start asking questions.

If Itachi also defeats Kabuto, then we could also have another reunion between Sasuke and his brother. He could tell Sasuke the whole truth about the Uchiha Massacre.


About the NaruHina vs. NaruSaku stuff, everyone chill out. happy.gif How many times have we been in this kind of situation over the past years? This happens every time Naruto is seen sharing a panel with either Hinata or Sakura (or even both). Sooner or later, we'll get another NaruSaku interaction, then it'll be Hinata, then Sakura.... etc. etc.

So don't worry about what other pairing fan clubs say. Just chill and enjoy the ride. cool.gif

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Posted 12 October 2011 - 06:08 PM

Alright so this chapter was lovely wasn't it. For starters everyone knows I really, really, really, dont like Hinata but I figured this was a good way to close the whole NaruHina thing. I know some people are all getting upset because it's a NH moment, however I dont think it is. In all honesty I think Kishi wanted the whole love confession thing to have a reaction from Naruto. One that would finally end the possibility of a romantic relationship between them. Naruto got to hear what Hinata was feeling and he acknowledge her, all she wanted was to protect him (which she did with pain) and have him acknowledge her. Besides I really wanted Naruto to say something about it anyway, him doing this just gives Hinata peace of mind. It wasn't a love confession or him favoring Hinata or anything. Besides Naruto saves her while Sakura fights by his side. The two girls will always be so different but I know now that with this chapter Hinata is out.

Now the whole trump card was awesome!! I remember I thought that the body in the coffin was the sage of the six paths or the real body of Madara. However I thought Tobi had pulled an Orochimaru and gotten a new body to replace his aging one. Now it looks like that theory is out the window D: Now I wonder who the mysterious sharigan user is behind the mask. I remember when people said it was Obito since his name is so similar to Tobi. People would say that Zetsu saved him from all the rubble, but why would he turn evil all of a sudden? Well that was just a crazy rumor, but if Kishi did do that I dont know how I'd feel :/

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Posted 12 October 2011 - 06:10 PM

Mind = blown. Never would've guessed that.

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Posted 12 October 2011 - 06:10 PM

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Well my theory's just went and got flushed down the toilet. Fake Madara who are you really? Man I cant comprehend this at all. Also little sad with that NaruHina moment but thats ok he was just trying to raise her mood.But im sure in the future there will be a NaruSaku moment there always is when there's a NaruHina one.

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Posted 12 October 2011 - 06:11 PM

QUOTE (Smiter @ Oct 12 2011, 11:03 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
About the NaruHina vs. NaruSaku stuff, everyone chill out. happy.gif How many times have we been in this kind of situation over the past years? This happens every time Naruto is seen sharing a panel with either Hinata or Sakura (or even both). Sooner or later, we'll get another NaruSaku interaction, then it'll be Hinata, then Sakura.... etc. etc.

So don't worry about what other pairing fan clubs say. Just chill and enjoy the ride. cool.gif


Yep, its just such a vicious cycle that will not end until the end of the series, so yep we just have to just as always wait and see it play out as it is before we make the proper arguments for the case. But yeah, as always, the followup chapter should be interesting.

Edited by Anguyen92, 12 October 2011 - 06:15 PM.

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Posted 12 October 2011 - 06:16 PM

QUOTE (Roy menethil @ Oct 12 2011, 02:01 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Well since the real Madara killed the first Hokage

no he didn't. Madara's the one that "died"... Hashirama died in a war

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Posted 12 October 2011 - 06:31 PM

Not to belabor the point, but I really see this more as a shipping push than any resolution to Hinata's feelings from the Pain arc. If anything, this interaction would give her more reason to "love" Naruto than anything. The whole "I can tell it's Naruto by his eyes" and Naruto's saying "I can see it in your eyes, Hinata" — it's just too much to overlook. And Neji, that's so vague it could be anything. He could be interested in Hinata, or he could just as easily be understanding there is something more between Hinata and Naruto.

Question, Naruto said "You've alread saved me at least twice already." What? If by saving him he means making him go into the 8-tails...um.... So is making reference to actual events (that I just can't remember right now) or is he just being nice? I think he's probably stretching it a bit to be nice, but still, that's a little OOC of Naruto to do so. Social graces like that are not very common for him. (Although it could be argued that he has covered for other people's feelings before, but it's been for Sakura when Tazuna from the Wave country arc was asking where Sasuke was.)

Anyway, I'm bummed about not getting to see Sakura fight. Maybe next week. And I certainly don't think this chapter diminishes NS in any way. But this is one instance where I think the NH fans are justified in saying this supports their pairing. Naruto is speaking directly to her, in a very personal way, making physical remarks and referencing memories that only the two of them would share and understand entirely. I don't see anything as being resolved, in fact if Kishimoto were going to build on NH, then having them both talking about seeing something in each other's eyes is a helluva way to start.

Hate to be the dissenting voice. I see this as a bonafide NH moment, is all.

And actually, this may be a little bit of a plot reset button on Kishi's part. In one chapter he's introduced a new villain (apparently), and the pairing suspense has gotten a little more fuel. The stale battle just picked up, and NH-ers have been lured back into the fold. (NS-ers are here for the long haul!) After this one chapter, so much more interested has been renewed from all different members of the audience. Tons of people are going to be watching the upcoming chapters, who may have dropped off if they did not see anything that interested them (pairings, battle tactics, new villains, etc.).

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QUOTE (Konohakitten @ Oct 12 2011, 02:08 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Naruto got to hear what Hinata was feeling and he acknowledge her, all she wanted was to protect him (which she did with pain) and have him acknowledge her. Besides I really wanted Naruto to say something about it anyway, him doing this just gives Hinata peace of mind. It wasn't a love confession or him favoring Hinata or anything.

Good point, and I'm sure this is how it will play out. That Naruto is acknowledging her finally. Not jumping ship or anything, just to be clear! Most times I think NH are pulling the shipping stuff out of thin air. But this interaction definitely supports their cause in a way none of the others has before.

Edited by tricksie, 12 October 2011 - 06:40 PM.


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Posted 12 October 2011 - 06:34 PM

QUOTE (pharix @ Oct 12 2011, 10:16 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
no he didn't. Madara's the one that "died"... Hashirama died in a war

Really? iam soooo sorry for the wrong information then i will check next time sweatdrop.gif

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Posted 12 October 2011 - 06:35 PM

This is going to be the longest boat(shipping war) ride of my life!!!!!!!!!!

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Posted 12 October 2011 - 06:40 PM

All I know is that if Naruto says that he does not love Sakura anymore, in a serious manner, narusaku is still and always will be the frontrunner in the canon pairings race and as always, any main pairing cannot be canon without a long discussion between Naruto and Sakura alone.

Well, enough about that, what do you guys think that Madara will do next chapter.

Edited by Anguyen92, 12 October 2011 - 06:41 PM.

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Posted 12 October 2011 - 06:49 PM

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Naruto got to hear what Hinata was feeling and he acknowledge her, all she wanted was to protect him (which she did with pain) and have him acknowledge her. Besides I really wanted Naruto to say something about it anyway, him doing this just gives Hinata peace of mind. It wasn't a love confession or him favoring Hinata or anything.


I think NH has a good clousure in this chapter. Naruto thanked and he acknowledge her, but didn't show any romantic feeling for her. And Hinata is fine with that.

I'm sure we won't see anything between the two anymore.

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Posted 12 October 2011 - 06:53 PM

The truth about Fake!Madara is revealed!



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(Damn, it took ages to find the right images for both Fake!Madara and Sasuke)

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Posted 12 October 2011 - 07:01 PM

QUOTE (CloverChan @ Oct 12 2011, 02:49 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I think NH has a good clousure in this chapter. Naruto thanked and he acknowledge her, but didn't show any romantic feeling for her. And Hinata is fine with that.


Yep. Nice little closure scene. No romance shonen manga wise, just acknowledgement and showing Hinata has a potential for growth now that she's moved past her crush.
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Posted 12 October 2011 - 07:16 PM

QUOTE (ciardha @ Oct 12 2011, 12:01 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Yep. Nice little closure scene. No romance shonen manga wise, just acknowledgement and showing Hinata has a potential for growth now that she's moved past her crush.


Only one way for this to be truth for sure ciardha, Naruto must talk to Sakura about her confession.
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Posted 12 October 2011 - 07:24 PM

QUOTE (Gravenimage @ Oct 12 2011, 07:16 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Only one way for this to be truth for sure ciardha, Naruto must talk to Sakura about her confession.

Naruto might not really bring it up, although it might pop in his head when looking at her, which will cause NS moment hopefully. I think we might have won this, but we don't know just yet, so thanks for reminding me of that Graven! happy.gif

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Posted 12 October 2011 - 07:39 PM

Sigh* Of course, pulling the wool over our eyes again Kishi. facepalm.png
AND EXPLAIN WHY THERE WAS NS THIS WEEK EITHER!!!!????? rawr.gif rawr.gif rawr.gif
other than that GOOD PLOT TWIST!!!! a_thumbs.gif


QUOTE (NaruSaku1 @ Oct 12 2011, 08:47 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
NS happens at end remember! happy.gif
Also, why so upset over the wool over our eyes again? Don't you want the ending to be the best ever!?


I didn't say for NS to HAPPEN I meant NS moment. A hint of their feelings for each other mellow.gif that Even Hinata seems to acknowledge by her not blushing or being embarrassed when seeing him(and don't forget she smiled when Sakura hugged him showing she understood Sakura loves him too and was worried about him)
And I wasn't upset about the plot twist only that I always thought the Masked Madara was the real thing THEN I was proven wrong so I want to punch myself in the face just because I should have seen it coming dry.gif *PUNCH*

Edited by Phantom_999, 12 October 2011 - 10:26 PM.

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Posted 12 October 2011 - 07:47 PM

So, I was wrong. Mr. Popo isn't the one in the coffin. Mr. Popo was actually Tobi. Should've expected it.

Don't worry, ChidoriLuv, I didn't subscribe to that "Cocky/devilish smile= OMG IT'S A ZETSU CLONE!" theory. All it really was, was Kishimoto drawing his smile differently, like I assumed.


Hrm, looks like those Obito theories will spring up again. I still say that Mr. Popo's in that mask. kruemelmonsteryn0.gif

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Posted 12 October 2011 - 07:47 PM

QUOTE (Phantom_999 @ Oct 12 2011, 07:39 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Sigh* Of course, pulling the wool over our eyes again Kishi. facepalm.png
AND EXPLAIN WHY THERE WAS NS THIS WEEK EITHER!!!!????? rawr.gif rawr.gif rawr.gif
other than that GOOD PLOT TWIST!!!! a_thumbs.gif

NS happens at end remember! happy.gif
Also, why so upset over the wool over our eyes again? Don't you want the ending to be the best ever!?

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Posted 12 October 2011 - 07:55 PM

QUOTE (NaruSaku1 @ Oct 12 2011, 11:47 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
NS happens at end remember! happy.gif
Also, why so upset over the wool over our eyes again? Don't you want the ending to be the best ever!?

I know and i have faith that NS will happen but i just want to see atleast one NS moment that i was dreaming of...We all waited for atleast a moment right but we dont want to worry about that but yes i agree with you my friend thumbsup.gif

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Posted 12 October 2011 - 08:01 PM

Just one thing I'd like to point out in regards to Tobi being a "fake" Madara:



And as someone in the thread said earlier, the "original" Madara spoke as if he expected to be resurrected, by Nagato.

Tobi's not an impostor. My theory at the moment is that he's some sort of wacky clone body with all of Madara's memories. It would explain all the strange, abnormal things about his body and why he doesn't have any of his original ninjutsu aside from the Mangekyou Sharingan. And he was freaked out before because he has a weakness and knowing this is probably the key to defeating him.




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