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[NarutoThePromiseKeeper]

That was one awesome chapter! Finally I got a chance to read it! Madara did have some truth in his words after all; Looks like its now up to Naruto completely to bring a stop to Sasuke and hopefully return him to his senses.
That battle was epic, fast paced I don't mind them like that! Epic chapter, can't wait for the next one! ^^

[Dreamer]

You have no say in here Kubo, did you forgot how you tempted Kishimoto to the Troll side of the force?

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[alexander]

[Darth Krypt]

No you said defeating Aizen wasn't the main objective that's different than saying there was no objective from the start

But look at my previous sentences. I gave examples of mangas with objective from the start but when I talked about Bleach I didn't.

Anyway does Bleach have a main objective to aim for? First it was to save Rukia from Soul Society then it was stopping Aizen. Then its the fullbring arc which is totally different from before. I'm just hoping Kubo has a grand scheme with the end in mind and not just randomly think of something big while drawing.

[ciardha]

Well Itachi ALWAYS had faith in Naruto right?

Not so much faith as hope, this has edged him over into faith though on that issue. Nagato chose to have faith in Naruto when he died, and seeing Naruto's progress has made him feel even more certain he was right to believe in Naruto- he's completely ready to be released from the world. Itachi still has his burdens and I wonder if he can be released, he may just have to be sealed away. Although his relief about not many people knowing about the Uchiha coup plots and knowing Naruto will keep silent now that Itachi has begged him eased that burden a bit.

However, I could easily see Sasuke raging it out loud in some distorted way when the big fight happens between Naruto and Sasuke. Then Naruto having to set him straight and inform him about what he knows about the other coup the Uchiha clan plotted with Madara on the night Naruto was born. That would be an interesting conversation: because Naruto doesn't now hate the Uchiha clan for being directly connected to his parents dying, him becoming the Kyuubi jinchuuriki, and the enormous emotional pain he endured during his childhood....

Sasuke hearing this and experiencing the truth of it (It will almost certainly happen in the mindscape situation like their last fight conversation did) might be the shock to his mindset that might start to turn him around. Most likely the first step will for his hatred and rage to abruptly switch again- this time toward Madara- he's the ultimate cause of all of Sasuke's pain too.

[Insurrection]

[Nutt Man 117]

Awesome chapter!!
I thought we were in for some talking at first. But I guess we can be thankful to Kabutomaru that he gave us some action to thrive on
Loved how Killer Bee cuts through Itachi's grand fireball. Then Samehada complains how hot it is with Bee apologizing. Its almost like he's become best friends with his new sword! I know I would. But I wonder if Kisame would feel cheated? Poor Shark man

[Strangelove]

Awesome chapter!!
I thought we were in for some talking at first. But I guess we can be thankful to Kabutomaru that he gave us some action to thrive on
Loved how Killer Bee cuts through Itachi's grand fireball. Then Samehada complains how hot it is with Bee apologizing. Its almost like he's become best friends with his new sword! I know I would. But I wonder if Kisame would feel cheated? Poor Shark man

He does feel cheated...KB is just as nuts as Naruto is. I wonder...what would happen ounce Kyubi realizes that the reason Madara wants him is to finally making him complete. I wonder with all its malice, he would betray Naruto.

Edited by Strangelove, 30 July 2011 - 02:35 PM.

[Super Boom]

He does feel cheated...KB is just as nuts as Naruto is. I wonder...what would happen ounce Kyubi realizes that the reason Madara wants him is to finally making him complete. I wonder with all its malice, he would betray Naruto.

Maybe the Kyuubi would do that, but I feel like it would rather side with Naruto than Madara. The impression I get from the Hachibi and the Kyuubi is that the demons seem to hate each other, and the last thing they'd want to do is combine. Besides, I'm not sure how it works, but I would imagine the demons would lose their individual personalities by combining into the Juubi. But I'm not sure if the demons want to become one again, or if they'd prefer to remain separate. Maybe we'll learn more about that in the future.

I personally think, though, that the Kyuubi will reach a point where it finally puts its faith in Naruto. Seriously, that would be the ultimate conversion from Naruto's talk no jutsu. On top of that, I assume that would mean Naruto could finally use Tailed Beast Transformation. How awesome would it be to see the giant Kyuubi look down at the medical camp and go, "HI SAKURA-CHAAAAN! How's it going-tebayo?"

[The Tax-Man]

He does feel cheated...KB is just as nuts as Naruto is. I wonder...what would happen ounce Kyubi realizes that the reason Madara wants him is to finally making him complete. I wonder with all its malice, he would betray Naruto.

He probably wouldn't want to join. Remember, he thinks all other beasts are 'scum' or whatever and hates them. Even though it would be an interesting turn of events, it would be unlikely. There's also the fact that the Kyuubi doesn't even have access to half of its chakra and neither does Madara. Like I said a couple of months ago, this would be a really good time to see a foil in the villain's plan. Even more so now.

Anyway, the thing is he CAN'T betray Naruto. Naruto essentially controls him. Scratch that. He LITERALLY controls him. Kyuubi has to move to betray him.

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Yes.

[Codus N]

Maybe the Kyuubi would do that, but I feel like it would rather side with Naruto than Madara. The impression I get from the Hachibi and the Kyuubi is that the demons seem to hate each other, and the last thing they'd want to do is combine. Besides, I'm not sure how it works, but I would imagine the demons would lose their individual personalities by combining into the Juubi. But I'm not sure if the demons want to become one again, or if they'd prefer to remain separate. Maybe we'll learn more about that in the future.

I personally think, though, that the Kyuubi will reach a point where it finally puts its faith in Naruto. Seriously, that would be the ultimate conversion from Naruto's talk no jutsu. On top of that, I assume that would mean Naruto could finally use Tailed Beast Transformation. How awesome would it be to see the giant Kyuubi look down at the medical camp and go, "HI SAKURA-CHAAAAN! How's it going-tebayo?"

Don't forget an inevitable epic banter between Hachibi and Kyuubi. Throw in Gamabunta, and it's perfect. (if Madara gets desperate and releases Shukaku only to have it resealed inside Gaara, make that an epic banter between Ichibi-Hachibi-Kyuubi)

As for Sakura's reaction, she'd probably get pissed at him for scaring her like that. but I can kind of see a cute moment between them going like this: Sakura acts pensive towards a fully-transformed Naruto at first, but tries touching the Kyuubi's fur and says it's warm and fluffy. Leaving Naruto embarrassed and Kyuubi shocked at her reaction. (Which may just actually push him to help Naruto just for the sake of protecting Sakura.)

[pharix]

wouldn't be as funny as the chibi fox though

[Myth]

I'm not sure about the truth behind what Madara has said. Itachi never confirmed it directly. He only says "Damn you Madara, so you did know...." It still is vague enough that it could be in reference to some other lie or truth.

So what I'm saying is Naruto blabbed everything that Madara said about Itachi's "real" mission, and Itachi only said "That's enough, Naruto." A panel or so later when Nagato says to Itachi "Is this true?" Naruto keeps on talking. Itachi never answers. And the only request Itachi has is for Naruto not to say anything to anyone, to 'preserve the reputation of the Uchiha.'

There is still no confirmation of Madara's story as truth. And Itachi might be crafty enough to see through Madara's ploy and decided to let it play out. I've never been comfortable excepting the villian's explanation as truth. And Itachi's non-responses are highly suspicious. Taken as a whole — looking underneath the underneath — I think there's still something else going on. I don't know what, and I don't have any good theories, but I think Madara's only telling part of the story.

Itachi's just the flipside of Madara, manipulating for the greater good instead of the greater bad.

Come on now seriously..
Do you guys believe that İtachi will confirm his past actions and the true story behind the massacre ? No he wont even speak about massacre but that doesnt mean madara lied at all especially itachi part was true(my opinion and danzo confirmed that as well)
Of course itachi wont talk about that ,how much PAİN itachi has gone trough ?
He will never want to remember.

Edited by Myth, 30 July 2011 - 10:05 PM.

[Phantom_999]

Not so much faith as hope, this has edged him over into faith though on that issue. Nagato chose to have faith in Naruto when he died, and seeing Naruto's progress has made him feel even more certain he was right to believe in Naruto- he's completely ready to be released from the world. Itachi still has his burdens and I wonder if he can be released, he may just have to be sealed away. Although his relief about not many people knowing about the Uchiha coup plots and knowing Naruto will keep silent now that Itachi has begged him eased that burden a bit.

However, I could easily see Sasuke raging it out loud in some distorted way when the big fight happens between Naruto and Sasuke. Then Naruto having to set him straight and inform him about what he knows about the other coup the Uchiha clan plotted with Madara on the night Naruto was born. That would be an interesting conversation: because Naruto doesn't now hate the Uchiha clan for being directly connected to his parents dying, him becoming the Kyuubi jinchuuriki, and the enormous emotional pain he endured during his childhood....

Sasuke hearing this and experiencing the truth of it (It will almost certainly happen in the mindscape situation like their last fight conversation did) might be the shock to his mindset that might start to turn him around. Most likely the first step will for his hatred and rage to abruptly switch again- this time toward Madara- he's the ultimate cause of all of Sasuke's pain too.

Hmm that is the general guess of future events

[rastaman]

I sure hope Naruto gets the other half of Kyuubi's chakra back. Maybe Madara tries to extract his chakra but Naruto's and Kyuubi's will is stronger and he gets even more chakra than he originally had possessed by sucking chakra from Gedou Mazou.

[Greed-Sama]

I sure hope Naruto gets the other half of Kyuubi's chakra back. Maybe Madara tries to extract his chakra but Naruto's and Kyuubi's will is stronger and he gets even more chakra than he originally had possessed by sucking chakra from Gedou Mazou.

I doubt it since the other half of the Kyuubi's chakra wasn't sealed inside the statue.

[Nutt Man 117]

wouldn't be as funny as the chibi fox though

I could see him trying to impress Sakura of how strong he has become in the past weeks. Naruto tires to transform into the Nine Tails again but only to fail and transform into chibi Nine Tails
Wonder if Sakura would sweat drop and sign in annoyance or would actually think that its just absolutely adorable and beg him to transform into chibi Nine Tails from time to time. Epic

[naruto-z]

I could see him trying to impress Sakura of how strong he has become in the past weeks. Naruto tires to transform into the Nine Tails again but only to fail and transform into chibi Nine Tails
Wonder if Sakura would sweat drop and sign in annoyance or would actually think that its just absolutely adorable and beg him to transform into chibi Nine Tails from time to time. Epic

Oh I would love that! But I think if it did occur in that moment she would be definitely pissed about naruto seemingly doing something ridiculous in the middle of a war. However afterwards or in the future she would always ask him to do it.

Edited by naruto-z, 31 July 2011 - 02:16 PM.

[Nutt Man 117]

Oh I would love that! But I think if it did occur in that moment she would be definitely pissed about naruto seemingly doing something ridiculous in the middle of a war. However afterwards or in the future she would always ask him to do it.

I could see the animators featuring chibi Nine Tails in more often in future movies or other fillers

[Phantom_999]

Well it would be funny and more cute service for the fans yeah

Edited by Phantom_999, 01 August 2011 - 02:33 PM.