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[Fyuria'sLeo]

I disagree i think that's more of protection, although its the rare times when the powers of an Uchiha mixed with that of the Senju.

I think that the key to save Sasuke is death. He has already gone into the path of darkness it will torment him forever.

The use of

drugs, premeditated murder, random murder, and torture...the list goes on, the best Naruto can see is that Sasuke cannot be save while he is still alive. There won't be a silly redemption scene, or a I am sorry can you please forgive me scene.

I would like to know When the Hell did Sasuke use drugs?

[Super Boom]

I would like to know When the Hell did Sasuke use drugs?

I don't know when they said it, but I'm pretty sure someone stated at some point that Sasuke had been using drugs while with Orochimaru to augment his abilities. I suppose the Curse Mark Jutsu might also be included as a drug on some level, since Orochimaru cultivated it from Jugo's body.

[Derock]

I would like to know When the Hell did Sasuke use drugs?

I don't know when they said it, but I'm pretty sure someone stated at some point that Sasuke had been using drugs while with Orochimaru to augment his abilities. I suppose the Curse Mark Jutsu might also be included as a drug on some level, since Orochimaru cultivated it from Jugo's body.

Sakura said that Sasuke most likely used drugs/steroid-enhancements (not that type of steriods) via Orochimaru after the Sasuke and Sai arc. Later Kakashi had said something about it, well, mostly of saying it to Sakura that the poisoned kunai will not affect Sasuke.

[KungFuTruffle]

I would like to know When the Hell did Sasuke use drugs?

Chapter 311, Page 17. Sorry about the poor quality of the scan, but scanlations are notoriously poor. I've read several other versions of this chapter, and it was in the anime, as well. While it's never said whether he did or didn't, the fact that Sasuke was training with Orochimaru and Kabuto is pretty much all the conformation we need.

[MangaReader]

As I posted a while back, while I still agree that I'm indifferent, part of me hopes that Sasuke dies. Now with or without dignity I don't care, but after looking back on all the twisted stuff he's done and possibly gonna do, death has a 20% chance of happening, the other 80% says he lives but doesn't get off the hook

Edited by MangaReader, 07 June 2011 - 02:58 AM.

[K9ofChaos]

As I posted a while back, while I still agree that I'm indifferent, part of me hopes that Sasuke dies. Now with or without dignity I don't care, but after looking back on all the twisted stuff he's done and possibly gonna do, death has a 20% chance of happening, the other 80% says he lives but doesn't get off the hook

I don't want Sasuke to die with dignity.


After all the crap that he's done he shouldn't have the privilege to die with even ONE atom of dignified respect.


A death for Sasuke similar to how Peter Griffen's parrot from Family Guy died (except it won't be played for humorous effect but instead just be Sasuke dying a slow painful agonizing death while shouting non-sensical gibberish and insane amounts of cursing or something similar to how Light Yagami from Death Note died) is the only fitting punishment for some twisted peace of trash like that Uchiha bastard.

[merryGOflava]

i just noticed...sasuke didnt really kill danzo he kinda killed himself (granted he was dying, but danzo did that suicide thing himself)

hmmm did i say this before @_@ i forget...

Edited by merryGOflava, 08 June 2011 - 06:20 PM.

[Strangelove]

i just noticed...sasuke didnt really kill danzo he kinda killed himself (granted he was dying, but danzo did that suicide thing himself)

hmmm did i say this before @_@ i forget...

No he didn't, but he wanted to. He almost killed Karin, but instead wanted Sakura to do that work for him before he almost stabbed her in the back...not even Madara is that wicked. Or maybe he was...he did try to kill a 1 minute old baby.

This clan, this Uchiha clan is right now a den of vipers, never really liked them anyways, and Sasuke's beliefs are contradictory to his brother's. Itachi understood the Uchiha clan was a den of vipers and all he did was clean out the house by becoming a hawk, he put the nation over his family, he was what you would call a true shinobi. While the Uchiha wanted to overthrow the power structure and put themselves on top.

Edited by Strangelove, 09 June 2011 - 12:16 AM.

[MangaReader]

I don't want Sasuke to die with dignity.


After all the crap that he's done he shouldn't have the privilege to die with even ONE atom of dignified respect.


A death for Sasuke similar to how Peter Griffen's parrot from Family Guy died (except it won't be played for humorous effect but instead just be Sasuke dying a slow painful agonizing death while shouting non-sensical gibberish and insane amounts of cursing or something similar to how Light Yagami from Death Note died) is the only fitting punishment for some twisted peace of trash like that Uchiha bastard.

I could care less about what happens to him, hell I want him to die, but then I remind myself that this is Kishi's story and well the standards set for Naruto are to surpass Jiraiya, everything his teacher failed, Naruto will succeed. Lo and behold, one of those things was saving a friend that turned into a sick, twisted psychopath. And if Sasuke does die, Kishi will likey make him die a heroic or dignified death. It's pathetic, but Kishi likes doing things that way.

i just noticed...sasuke didnt really kill danzo he kinda killed himself (granted he was dying, but danzo did that suicide thing himself)

hmmm did i say this before @_@ i forget...

I also realized that and that he hasn't killed anyone except orchimaru(even though he's techinally still alive) so Sasuke hasn't killed an offical character as of yet. Itachi died cause of illness, Deidara blew himself up, and he failed to kill any Kages, hell he didn't even kill Karin. I love how he thinks he's powerful, but he can't even kill/defeated anyone about his level. He couldn't beat Bee either.

Edited by MangaReader, 09 June 2011 - 03:19 AM.

[The Tax-Man]

I also realized that and that he hasn't killed anyone except orchimaru(even though he's techinally still alive) so Sasuke hasn't killed an offical character as of yet. Itachi died cause of illness, Deidara blew himself up, and he failed to kill any Kages, hell he didn't even kill Karin. I love how he thinks he's powerful, but he can't even kill/defeated anyone about his level. He couldn't beat Bee either.

Exactly. Kishi never let him kill anyone major so he could be redeemed. Another thing might be a realization. Sasuke never really accomplished kitten in his life. He couldn't really beat the loser, lost against Gaara, defected because of jealousy, never killed anyone he should have, and never even actually killed ANY character we actually know. He really is pathetic for a villain. Which means we should stop hating on him. He isn't a villain. There's a thing called forgiveness. Now don't go out on me. Character development is essential. There would be no story if there weren't internal conflicts would there now? He is an anti-hero. I'm always blunt so get over it.

[Strangelove]

I would like to know When the Hell did Sasuke use drugs?

Oh he's been having an Ice Cream Habit ever since the start of the manga.

[JG111580]

The whole point of Sauske's character is to make him the poster boy for the hatred that Naruto will ultimately have to overcome. Kishi took a character with the potential to be a cool genius hero like the 4th and showed what hatred can do when embraced by that character. Unlike other villians (whom we find out about as they are about to die), we knew what Sauske was like prior to his fall. Knowing these details and what he has put everyone through (mainly Naruto and Sakura) Kishimoto has done a very effective job of making everyone in the Narutoverse and many readers believe that he cannot be redeemed and must die a villian in the end.

Kishimoto made it clear in part 1 that only fighting for yourself will never let you reach your full potential. Protecting those close to you allows you to access your true strength. The final controntation between Naruto and Sauske will exemplify that idea. Sauske will probably get a rediculous powerup with his new eyes. Naruto might even struggle against him. However, Naruto will not fight with hatred or anger. He will protect everyone while taking everything that Sauske has, forcing him to burn up all of his hatred. Then Itachi's gift will probably come into play.

I agree with those that say that, in the end Sauske will probably sacrifice himself to save Naruto or... everyone. So, the people that want to see Sauske die will get their wish and the people that want to see Sauske redeemed will get theirs'.

[Fyuria'sLeo]

Chapter 311, Page 17. Sorry about the poor quality of the scan, but scanlations are notoriously poor. I've read several other versions of this chapter, and it was in the anime, as well. While it's never said whether he did or didn't, the fact that Sasuke was training with Orochimaru and Kabuto is pretty much all the conformation we need.

Thank you, forgot about that chapter.

[merryGOflava]

Exactly. Kishi never let him kill anyone major so he could be redeemed. Another thing might be a realization. Sasuke never really accomplished kitten in his life. He couldn't really beat the loser, lost against Gaara, defected because of jealousy, never killed anyone he should have, and never even actually killed ANY character we actually know. He really is pathetic for a villain. Which means we should stop hating on him. He isn't a villain. There's a thing called forgiveness. Now don't go out on me. Character development is essential. There would be no story if there weren't internal conflicts would there now? He is an anti-hero. I'm always blunt so get over it.

wow...he hasnt killed anyone important huh.....sasuke's always getting beat up, hes pretty lucky too...

[The Tax-Man]

wow...he hasnt killed anyone important huh.....sasuke's always getting beat up, hes pretty lucky too...

LOL thanks for repeating me. But really, yeah. Exactly. Sasuke isn't all that good if you think about it. Fanservice just makes him look a million times better than he is.

[merryGOflava]

LOL thanks for repeating me. But really, yeah. Exactly. Sasuke isn't all that good if you think about it. Fanservice just makes him look a million times better than he is.

i didnt repeat i summarized it >:3

[Manara]

Again. Pay attention in to manga that we are reading !

Everyone, even Kakashi and Sakura, take the same conclusion: Sasuke is lost and needs to die. Even though he was a victim of hate in the world shinobi, he has no more salvation and must die.

Everyone! Less Naruto.

And that's is it because Naruto is deeply in love with Sasuke? Of course not! That's is it because Naruto is the boy of the prophecy, that will bring peace to the world Shinobi, breaking the cycle of hatred, iada iada iada.

And there's only one way of him doing that. Bringing Sasuke back for the good side.

In the latest chapters, Kyuubi provoked hin: You could not even save his friend.

In another moment Naruto said, "How can I become Hokage if I can not even save a friend?"

Naruto also said, "How can I declare my love to Sakura if I can not even keep a promise?" (save the friend)

Naruto will never kill Sasuke.

Maybe he dies to redeem himself, or anything like that. But only after returning to the side of good.

Although I bet in a happy ending for the team7

[Fyuria'sLeo]

Im all up for Sasuke living, just not being redeemed. I want him to go down fighting with Naruto.

[NarutoThePromiseKeeper]

Well considering all the bad things that Sasuke has done since he left the leaf and betrayed his friends; I'm not entirely sure exactly what will happen with his fate. Although Naruto did state that he couldn't become Hokage or give his love to Sakura if he can't save Sasuke; So my best guess is Naruto will save Sasuke, if he doesn't he would feel that he can't move forward in completing his goals, without saving his friend first. So yeah I'd have to say Sasuke should be saved, but whether he redeems himself alive or dead is another thing. I can't help but feel that like others have stated before; Sasuke will die and redeem himself, but who knows we'll have to wait and see what happens! Perhaps he will live and be redeemed, or he will die and be redeemed while fighting Naruto.

[Strangelove]

Well if Naruto follows the path of his master, then he won't be able to redeem Sasuke, if Sasuke follows the path of his master, and it won't work with the new generation surpassing the older considering that Naruto has already surpassed his master, in the way he didn't fell prey to his vices, and he was able to completely master senjutsu. While Sasuke surpassed his master in the way, that Orochimaru wasn't that psychotic.

Naruto's only hope, take all the lessons he learned from being a host, and imply it into Sasuke.

Edited by Strangelove, 15 June 2011 - 10:37 PM.