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*sighs* I never said anything about Hinata being at the bottom of the barrel of the Konoha 11, but if I were a dumber man, I could assume you are saying Sakura is at the bottom while Hinata is at the top.
Fortunately, you aren't. Because that's not what I am saying at all. All I am saying is that if we are judging this on the ability to win a fight, then Hinata does not belong at the bottom, and Sakura does not belong at the top.
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I think people thinking Sakura is a liar is a travesty, but that doesn't stop people from thinking that anyway or criticizing her to the highest degree. There is no doubt, however, that Hinata is some what stalker-ish or used to be one. Her love-crazy for Naruto is not something I look to because I feel it hinder her character greatly. She could be so much more, but she continues to have this motif that she is determined to be Naruto no matter what. You know I can be in love with someone, but if they don't want to be with me I have to accept that. Especially when they have showed no interest in being with me for the longest of time. Not that they hate me, but they don't see me that way.
And I repeat, people throw around the word "stalker" too lightly, as though society itself has forgotten what a stalker actually is. She is shy, quiet, and timid. She tends to seldom speak unless spoken to. She is not a stalker. You may find her standing far away, too shy to approach. What you don't see is her climbing trees outside of his window and watching him sleep with binoculars. You see her at a loss for words when he speaks to her or praises her. What you don't see is her taking it upon herself to learn everything there is to know about him, right down to his shoe size. What you don't see is her making duplicates of his house keys so that she can sneak in and steal his underwear. She is not a stalker, and it's ridiculous to say that she is.
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If Hinata was a little more accepting and stopped focusing on her own desires for one moment to think about everything else. I have seen Hinata fans constantly bash Sakura saying "Why are you so fangirlish of over Sasuke?" or "Why are you constantly being selfish?" Many...MANY of these arguments can be used on Hinata herself. This is what I feel. I like her, but she needs to stop thinking about her own desires and start thinking about Naruto's. If she loves him like she does, she will not force a relationship on him or force him to "hold her hand." She will let it play out as he wants it. Naruto does things for the good of others, not for himself. Why can't Hinata do that? I don't see Naruto determined to force Sakura to love him.
When, exactly, did she ever try to force a relationship on him? When did she ever try to force him to "hold her hand?" When did she ever put her desires before his? When did she stand in the way of his ambitions? Funny, because I remember Sakura ready to abandon Konoha to follow Sasuke. I also remember her crying at the gate, begging Naruto to bring him back for her. I also remember her "confessing" her love to him for the sake of stopping his pursuit. I've seen her put her desires before Naruto's constantly, without even bothering to speak to him about it. Never once have I seen Hinata try to do this. I've seen her try to be the best she could be, to want his acknowledgement and be worthy of him. But never have I seen her force him to do anything, nor even make a suggestion against his will.
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So, you are basically saying that even if the writer made something to prove that Sakura is more powerful than Hinata, you wouldn't accept it? That's denial. Databooks are written by the author to keep tabs on the characters development. Kishimoto, the author, is the one that decides each character. You can't put your own stats in there and say "The writer is wrong." You have no control over them and we have to let Kishimoto put it his way
Yes, that's exactly what I'm saying. Because I am not concerned with his intentions. I am concerned with how he demonstrates them in his story. He can say that Ino has a vestigial tail, for all I care. Unless it has consequence in the story, and unless he is willing to include it in the story for demonstration, then why should I care? Why should I care if he says that Sakura is stronger than Hinata, or vice versa, when we never see any demonstration of it, and we never have reason to question it? If he insists that Sakura is stronger, then let him demonstrate it. If he doesn't, or if he isn't inclined to, then why should I care?
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So who would win in a fight between Sakura and Hinata. Well, honestly in my opinion, Sakura would and I'll tell you why. Hinata is a defensive fighter. Sakura is an offensive fighter. Her strength can be shown that she can alter the terrain if she wanted to, possibly to make Hinata lose her footing. Combined with being a medical ninja, she has more expertise in chakra control. Said to be the best in the village. Even better than her master Tsunade. Sure, Hinata can have some good ideas, but in terms of who is more of a strategist that would go to Sakura as well simply because she is a medic-ninja once again and they are not supposed to be in the front lines.
How is Hinata a defensive fighter? How does chakra control lend anything to the fight if there is little-to-nothing it lends efficiency or effectiveness to? If the entire Hyuuga fighting style centers on chakra control, how can we say for certain that Sakura's chakra control is superior? What does being a medic ninja have to do with strategy?
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Medical-ninja probably have the toughest job of all. They not only does they have to defend themselves, but also defend their teammates. In my opinion, it is probably the most gruesome job of all and the most taxing because they so much to focus on. Is Sakura the most powerful? No, she is not, but because of the training she had to do to be who she is proves that she is more than just the healer. Hinata is strong, but let me know when she can punch a mountain apart with her bare hands.
You don't know much about war strategy, do you? The entire point of strategy is knowing how and where to place yours assets so as to draw out their best value. Sakura can rip mountains in half, yes. What good does this do her if her enemy is fast and agile enough to dodge her attacks? What good does it do her if she cannot detect her enemy in the first place? In that case, a different type of skill is more valuable.
Do you know why medics are generally not put on the front lines? The answer is simple. While your ability to fight may be formidable, your ability to heal is far more valuable. We like to think that one life is not more valuable than the next. Morally speaking, this is true. As a soldier, it is not. If you die as a shock trooper, you have done your part. We can always put a rifle in the hand of another ready marine and send him out to take your place. If we lose a medic who has had years of training, it is devastating to our ability to minimize our losses and maximize our intel. Medics don't need to be defended because they can't defend themselves. They need to be defended because they are more valuable assets. We don't put a commander on the back lines because he is less capable. We do it because he is the head of the beast, and without him, we have no direction.
I don't care if Sakura can rip a mountain in half with her bare hands. That is not her purpose. And if she rushes into the battlefield without knowing her role, then she is a liability, especially if there is any risk that her emotions will compromise her judgment. There is more to strategy than brute strength and your opinion of any one soldier. If you don't know why position is important, why priority of roles is important, and why intel is important, then you can't see the forest for the trees. The enemy will stomp you out like an old cigarette. That is why you can't put just anyone in a commander's chair, and why you can't go throwing medics into the fray.
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Next thing I hear you say is that Hinata is stronger than Naruto...and she isn't. I am sorry, but there is only so much you can say.
This is one thing I hate about these double-standards of life. You can have your opinion yes, but if the facts are against you you can't deny them and say they don't exist. This is also why skeptics exist. If I have proof of something, you have to believe it is proof. Skeptics don't believe the proof even if it is real. That's why some still think the moon landing is fake.
I did not say she is stronger than Naruto, nor would I. It has been demonstrated otherwise. While Hinata is skilled, Naruto's power is like unto a god. There is no denying this.
I'm not sure you're aware of what a double standard is, because there are no double standards here. Once again, I have no interest in what Kishimoto intends to do with his story, I care only how he shows it. If he says Sakura is stronger, then let him first define what he means by "stronger." Then, by his own metrics, let him prove it. I do not care what the databooks say if he's unwilling to show it in the story itself.
Edited by PachucoDesigns, 29 March 2012 - 10:00 AM.
On the morning of Wednesday, April 11th, 2012, my Aunt Karla passed away. She was my mother's baby sister, and my coolest aunt when I was a kid. She was the best babysitter ever, and she was like an older sister to me.
Karly, I don't know if you can hear this. I am not a believer, I haven't been since Sheryl died. But if you can, I want you to know that I'm truly sorry for everything bad I've ever said about you. When you were suffering, I should have been there to help you. I should have visited. I should have encouraged you to leave the house and get a job, to be active and alive the way you used to be.
I promise that I will do everything that I can to be successful and a good person, to make you proud the way you would have wanted me to. No matter what I said, I loved you. And I will always love you. Rest in Peace, you will never be forgotten.
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