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[CloudMountainJuror]

But they still have a chance of happening.

Eh, NaruHina does. SasuSaku... If it happened, it'd murder character development and defy logic way more than NaruHina.

[Fenris]

Has a chance of happening? LOL. What odds? Seriously, what odds do they have of happening? I see none, absolutely none for BOTH SS and NH.

Edited by Fenris, 15 January 2012 - 12:06 AM.

[Fyuria'sLeo]

Were just being open things can change in an instant.

[Fenris]

Were just being open things can change in an instant.

Well, yeah. But looking from all the development NS has in the manga, and both SS and NH don't have in the manga to save their lives, I don't see it happening. NS had the standpoint development it has for a reason, the "SS" interrupted kiss for a reason, all of those romantic moments that were interrupted, the sentences unfinished, the little things, the feelings Sakura were confused about in the beginning of Naruto, for Naruto, all of this has a reason, and all of this is what leads up to NS happening, and much more of course. NH and SS, they don't have that. They have fillers.

[Fyuria'sLeo]

I understand where you coming from Fenris, just trying to say that its always possible for that kind of stuff to happen. Yes NS has a lot of development but NH could still come back from what just happened in the past chapter. As you said before you thought of it as a closing for the couple, but you never know it could have been something else.

[Don-kun]

@Gravenimage


I want to agree, Naruto is stubborn about Sasuke but not about Sakura.
Sakura think about Sasuke and act in some way that really make Naruto feel sad, she even forget about everyone els sometimes.
If you look at Naruto expression, at the hospital hug, Tazunas coment about the 3some love, Kamui words about Sasuke and Sakura's denail, Karui even ask her what Sasuke is to you anyway? but Sakura could not replay, look at Naruto mental image at that cofession you can see why Naruto still think she love Sasuke and if you listen to her wording it make it even more clear, it really hurt her that Sasuke don't love her the way she love him.

Naruto event that shows Sakura haven strong feeling for him, Naruto dos not know and she don't show him either, the six biggest revelations from Sakura's feelings towards him are.

1- Asking herself if those feeling are for Naruto. (early Sakura)
2- The way she hold her chest when he was in K4.
3- Yamato speech.
4- Pain attack her trust is only on Naruto and no one else.
5- Sai guilt trip Sasuke was out of her mind she could only think about Naruto.
6- Rasengan Chidori clash her heart responded only to Naruto's Sake.

They are some couple more but those come to mind.

Now I really think the one that's stubben and not been Honest with her heart is Sakura, for god sake she is afried of the real Sasuke, she say that she doesn't understant him, she say that he never speaks to her she does not know if he hates her and her faith in him has to be restored by Naruto, she only like him for shallow reason and she know it.

So no Naruto is not the one been stubbern, he is reading Sakura's behavior and respect her, Sakura is the stubbern one that refuse to be honest with her self.

[Miss Soupy]

Has a chance of happening? LOL. What odds? Seriously, what odds do they have of happening? I see none, absolutely none for BOTH SS and NH.

Eh, but what odds would you have given that Sakura would still love Sasuke at this point? I know I wouldn't have believed it back when part II started. I also don't believe the odds likely that Hinata will stop loving Naruto. I mean, it seems Kishi purposefully wants all pairings to seem possible at this point. 'Likely' is another topic.


Oh, btw, the quote in your sig. Is that from the dreaded jump festa interview from a few years back?

[Don-kun]

Eh, NaruHina does. SasuSaku... If it happened, it'd murder character development and defy logic way more than NaruHina.

Remember that Kishi said he wants to write more about Sasuke and Sasuke will be rebelling secrets that no one could imagine.

We know about Sasuke and his obsession with revenge what els kishi really have to disclose about him Honestly what els.

Maybe about his feeling?

Edited by donjoseph19, 15 January 2012 - 12:35 AM.

[Dragunov]

Remember that Kishi said he wants to write more about Sasuke and Sasuke will be rebelling secrets that no one could imagine.

We know about Sasuke and his obsession with revenge what els kishi really have to disclose about him Honestly what els.

Maybe about his feeling?

nope. He made it very clear he doesnt care by trying to kill her TWO times.

[Fenris]

I understand where you coming from Fenris, just trying to say that its always possible for that kind of stuff to happen. Yes NS has a lot of development but NH could still come back from what just happened in the past chapter. As you said before you thought of it as a closing for the couple, but you never know it could have been something else.

I still doubt it.

Eh, but what odds would you have given that Sakura would still love Sasuke at this point? I know I wouldn't have believed it back when part II started. I also don't believe the odds likely that Hinata will stop loving Naruto. I mean, it seems Kishi purposefully wants all pairings to seem possible at this point. 'Likely' is another topic.


Oh, btw, the quote in your sig. Is that from the dreaded jump festa interview from a few years back?

Sakura doesn't love Sasuke, she's ashamed of it, that ain't love. What Graven described above is love, not her being ashamed of her feelings for Sasuke. I agree with Kishi adding drama to the pairings department at this point, but NS is going to be the one to come out of it alive.

And yes, it's from the jump festa interview a few years back.

nope. He made it very clear he doesnt care by trying to kill her TWO times.

Three.

Edited by Fenris, 15 January 2012 - 12:40 AM.

[Gravenimage]

Remember that Kishi said he wants to write more about Sasuke and Sasuke will be rebelling secrets that no one could imagine.

We know about Sasuke and his obsession with revenge what els kishi really have to disclose about him Honestly what els.

Maybe about his feeling?

Sasuke secretly loving Sakura that will never happen because it will be OC of him. Come on he tried to kill her a couple of times without hesitation without no regret in his heart. If Kishi does make Sasuke loving Sakura it will be a big fail on his character development, right now Sasuke represent the avenger who is trapped in hatred and revenge and wants to spread his hatred to everyone by killing them all. For all of the sudden that he makes a 360 turn and says" oh my God I have seen the light I did so many horrible things I realize all this time I've been in love with Sakura". This is the same thing that NH fans expect Naruto to do when it concerns Sakura that he makes a 360 and falls in love with Hinata just like that.

[Super Boom]

Remember that Kishi said he wants to write more about Sasuke and Sasuke will be rebelling secrets that no one could imagine.

We know about Sasuke and his obsession with revenge what els kishi really have to disclose about him Honestly what els.

Maybe about his feeling?

Is it bad that I chuckled at that picture?

I suppose it's possible, but it would seem way too contrived at this point. If that's Kishi's intention, then I'd say he's doing a pretty terrible job leading into it. I could see it working with Naruto, even if it's not romantic, but Sakura doesn't really seem to be too important to him past the Squad 7 bond.

I can't remember what Kishi said about a Sasuke revelation, but if he did say something along those lines, I would guess it would be more of a revelation for Sasuke, and not necessarily about him. It could be many things, but I'd guess it would be something about Tobi or the Uchiha Clan's involvement in they Kyuubi attack. I really don't think it'll have anything to do with Sakura, especially after Kishi pretty much said Sakura's slipped his mind in that last interview.
If it does have to do with his "secret feelings for Sakura", then man, that'd be disappointing. I've heard people refer to Naruto as the "Twilight of manga" in the past, and I might be inclined to agree with them if something like that happened.

Also, like Soupy said, possible and probable are two different things. I don't really think anything's impossible in a fictional universe. However, if we run with the idea that Kishi isn't trolling us, then I also have a tough time seeing N/H or S/S being Kishi's chosen pairings. Just my opinion, though.

Edited by Boom...Winning, 15 January 2012 - 01:49 AM.

[Nostradamus]

Sasuke secretly loving Sakura that will never happen because it will be OC of him. Come on he tried to kill her a couple of times without hesitation without no regret in his heart. If Kishi does make Sasuke loving Sakura it will be a big fail on his character development, right now Sasuke represent the avenger who is trapped in hatred and revenge and wants to spread his hatred to everyone by killing them all. For all of the sudden that he makes a 360 turn and says" oh my God I have seen the light I did so many horrible things I realize all this time I've been in love with Sakura". This is the same thing that NH fans expect Naruto to do when it concerns Sakura that he makes a 360 and falls in love with Hinata just like that.

Don't you mean a 180 instead of 360? Because if you turn 360 degrees in one direction you will end up exactly in the same position as you where before. Now if you turn 180 degrees you will face the exact opposite of your original position.

[Fenris]

Sasuke secretly loving Sakura that will never happen because it will be OC of him. Come on he tried to kill her a couple of times without hesitation without no regret in his heart. If Kishi does make Sasuke loving Sakura it will be a big fail on his character development, right now Sasuke represent the avenger who is trapped in hatred and revenge and wants to spread his hatred to everyone by killing them all. For all of the sudden that he makes a 360 turn and says" oh my God I have seen the light I did so many horrible things I realize all this time I've been in love with Sakura". This is the same thing that NH fans expect Naruto to do when it concerns Sakura that he makes a 360 and falls in love with Hinata just like that.

And both will never happen. If anything, Sasuke would turn around and say: "Oh my god I love Naruto Uzumaki with all of my heart" blablabla. Not Sakura Kishi has made it the ying/yang parallel obvious when it comes to Naruto and Sasuke, killing off the theories SS fans had about the ying/yang theory for sakura/sasuke. And if you look at the art book, which Kishi has DRAWN himself with Naruto and the konoha 11 in it, he's as far away as he can get from Hinata and is showing her no attention whats so ever. She's by herself in the corner.
http://lh4.ggpht.com...s1600/52-53.jpg
And another page, is Naruto/Sakura completely by themselves at the beach, a lot have Naruto/Sakura in his artbook have JUST themselves in it, surprisingly.

[Don-kun]

@ Boom...Winning

@ Gravenimage I think is 180


I deeply agree I don't see the manga going that way, and that is because he went out of his way to show the readers that Sasuke really hate Sakura and SS is only a fantasy not a reality.

He show us from the start that Naruto likes her and she hates him, then he complitly change the relationship between them he also show Sakura how much Naruto love her.
Kishi spend so much time making relations similar to Naruto and Sakura and give Naru Saku alot of development why make Naruto so close to then shatter is heart and make Sakura look evil and selfish in the process.
That will be a Nice way to make him the hero of the story and she the heroine.

I think like Fenris I really don't see how Kishi will Make Sasuke love Sakura after he ignore her love in the old Manga even try to kill her three time, how will Naruto stop loving Sakura when he clearly say that when he can honer that promise he made to her he will tell Sakura how he feels about her, Sakura ignoring Naruto sacrifice her true feeling for him and the fact that he love her that will give a bad light showing os readers that she never care about hin and only use his feelings for her own sake, then Hinata well what can I say about her, Hinata purpose is to be a satellite when it comes to Naruto, she thinks of him 365 days of the year, 7 days a week 24 hours a day.

[merryGOflava]

Remember that Kishi said he wants to write more about Sasuke and Sasuke will be rebelling secrets that no one could imagine.

We know about Sasuke and his obsession with revenge what els kishi really have to disclose about him Honestly what els.

Maybe about his feeling?

lolz " i tried to kill you cause i didn't want you to see what I've become" XDD thats ridiculous XDD

[Miss Soupy]

Sakura doesn't love Sasuke, she's ashamed of it, that ain't love. What Graven described above is love, not her being ashamed of her feelings for Sasuke. I agree with Kishi adding drama to the pairings department at this point, but NS is going to be the one to come out of it alive.

I don't feel Sakura has enough reason to feel ashamed of something unless she is currently doing it. Which means she feels love for him but feels guilty about it. Which means she still loves him.

Since Kishi seems to find this ok, I have to have pretty strong evidence that Sakura doesn't love Sasuke anymore. Just being guilty or sad doesn't cut it, since she has been feeling that way for the majority of part II. It is a good reason to move on, but it seems she needs more than just that.

And yes, it's from the jump festa interview a few years back.

Ah. Well, that quote is pretty off actually. It went more like, "Well Naruto is close...but still she...for Sasuke..." There was no past tense about it.

[Fyuria'sLeo]

Soupy why you gotta be the bringer of bad news?......just kidding I still love you! DONT HIT ME.

[Fenris]

I don't feel Sakura has enough reason to feel ashamed of something unless she is currently doing it. Which means she feels love for him but feels guilty about it. Which means she still loves him.

Since Kishi seems to find this ok, I have to have pretty strong evidence that Sakura doesn't love Sasuke anymore. Just being guilty or sad doesn't cut it, since she has been feeling that way for the majority of part II. It is a good reason to move on, but it seems she needs more than just that.


Ah. Well, that quote is pretty off actually. It went more like, "Well Naruto is close...but still she...for Sasuke..." There was no past tense about it.

However it went, it doesn't really matter. Sakura has been coming close to moving on, and whatever makes her completely move on from Sasuke, maybe seeing Naruto almost being murdered by him, I'm not sure - but I do know that something will make her snap out of it. I'm still standing my ground on the whole- "She loves him because of the bench scene" thing, and once that is resolved, she'll know it was Naruto and not Sasuke.

Soupy why you gotta be the bringer of bad news?......just kidding I still love you! DONT HIT ME.

Ahaha i feel like kitten now knowing the quote isn't that accurate.

Edited by Fenris, 15 January 2012 - 03:57 AM.

[Super Boom]

Ahaha i feel like kitten now knowing the quote isn't that accurate.

Don't worry about it. In a way, he didn't use present tense either. He just tip-toed around it, like mangaka usually do when asked questions like that. It's why I've always found it annoying how some fans treat these Jump Interviews like they're holy documents or something. An author isn't going to ruin the ending of his/her story just like that, they're just going to make off-hand comments to keep fans excited and reading. Honestly, I'm a bit tired of the whole "So-and-so loves so-and-so because the author coughed twice", or "So-and-so will return to the plot because the author glanced up to the right for a moment".

But even if that one was accurate (which I still remain skeptical about given how there's no less than 20 translations floating around the internet), it didn't really tell us anything new. The reason the confession didn't go so smoothly was because she still had some feelings for Sasuke, so Kishi was just reinforcing that. At least he didn't say it flat out.
Or maybe he did, Japanese is a heck of a language.

Edited by Boom...Winning, 15 January 2012 - 04:29 AM.